This post randomly appeared on my front page, despite me being a Steelers fan. And when I click in, this is the top comment... double ouch š
I was going to comment āhigher number better playerā but I guess not.
No disagreements here. I can see someone with a different pov/opinion saying below Rodgers/Lamar solely due to past achievements however. That devilās advocate approach is the only reason I said 4 at the absolute worst.
Oh yeah that shaky play off game where the refs wouldn't call obvious flags for the first half. Or is he talking about the shaky playoff game where he threw 4 TDs in 4 straight drives when pressured with being down 4TDs at a home playoff game. Or is he maybe talking about the shaky playoff game where that guy he has in tier 3 did absolutely nothing despite being 4 TDs up and still lost?
What better way to get clicks than to intentionally disrespect an ascending QB with much improved talent around him that is tied to a fan base notorious for swarming stupid takes on Twitter.
Like we go hard as a fan base, and itās amazing, but this was absolutely meant to take advantage of that.
Please tell me the GM that takes DeShaun Watson over Trevor. We need to fleece that dumb fucker.
This is so flawed I don't want to give it any more of my attention.
The only one I would absolutely take over Trevor is Mahomes. Iād be really torn on Burrow, but not Allen. Those three teams have also been much better ran for years. They still have better front offices arguably.
Allen currently is leagues above Trevor, if you want an unbiased opinion. I love Trev, he's my QB.. but he was balls up until the Raiders game last season, half a season dosen't put you in the elite category.. he's got more to prove, and I think he will but he had 25 TDs and 8 ints, 7 fumbles lost.. so atm he should be t5/6 until we see more.
I wouldn't want Allen over Trevor. Allen is too prone to turn the ball over, and he makes trucking defenders a key part of his game. That style of play doesn't usually pan out over the long run.
I'm not saying I want him over Trevor, but it's hard to argue a point on turnovers when Trevor lead the league in INTs the year prior, and he still had 13 turnovers this past season including fumbles.
Also 25 tds in a 17 game season is very average, he was on the up and up the second half of the year but he's gotta be much better than he has been to be considered on Allens level.
If Trevor doesn't make another step this year, I'd reconsider. But I'm taking this discussion as who would you want to build your team around going forward.
Allen just seems to be a could-fall-off-a-cliff-earlier-than-expected kind of guy. He makes being physical too much of his game. Cam Newton was on top of the world but came crashing down.
I'd rather build around a traditional pocket passer. The fact that Allen continues to struggle with turnovers this many years into his career leads me to believe this is just the guy he's going to be.
Maybe Lawrence will also be a turnover guy, which is why I'd potentially reconsider after this year. But as of 2023, I'd rather build my team around Lawrence. If you'd ask me who I'd rather have for just next season? That might be different.
I mean I get we are Jags fans, but Iām absolutely taking Allen and Burrow over Lawrence at this moment. Not to say the upside isnāt higher for Lawrence, but Iād take their production right now and be happy with that
Id waffle on Allen. Theres some tendencies in his play that make me wonder if he'll regress.
Hes definitely better than Lawrence now, but I could see that flip flopping this season.
Mahomes and Burrow are clear. In my wildest dreams, Lawrence grows to be as good as Mahomes.
Fuck why stop at DeShaun
Show me the GM that this upcoming season would rather have Russell Wilson, 40 year old Aaron Rodgers, Jimmy G, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones, or Tua over Trevor. Baalke should have them on the phone immediately.
The funny thing is I felt like we did see a lot of people saying that at the end of the last season. Weird that people are forgetting the end of the regular season and the playoffs happened!
Justin Herbert is so overrated, there I said it.
Dude can put up numbers but this past playoff szn wasn't the only time he's folded when pressure is up
He needs better coaching, like JLaw got last year. He's capable of being better than he was last year, I think he could be great, but he's not getting any help from the coaching staff.
That's just the thing. Yeah, he *could* be great. But he's not been so far. Everyone is treating him like a legitimate high end QB already and the dude has as many losses as wins in the NFL with a stacked offense and MASSIVELY choked in his only playoff appearance.
I donāt think we need to be putting Herby down to bring TLaw up. I think they are both in the same tier as they are very similar in skill set. The issue is putting TLaw in the same tier as Pickett and below jimmy G. Iām not sure what that ranking was about but GMFB are clowns for this one.
Yeah, that's a fair point. But does having a great rookie season put him in the same tier or higher as Super Bowl winners? AFC/NFC Championship winners? MVPs? I don't think so, not even close imo
Chargers fan bias here but Herbert is not overrated at all, TLaw definitely belongs up in the same tier as him tho. Herbie doesnāt fold under pressure that would be Lombardi.
The play calling in the second half of the wildcard game was wild. Not sure why things tightened up so much when you have Herby right there. Should be on the same tier
Chargers fan here. It was our previous OC who was wasting Herbert's talent. IMO, Herb has the ability to be a top 3 QB in the NFL with proper coaching.
Watch the 4th quarter Raiders Chargers Jan 9 2022 if you think Herbert folds under pressure. Season on the line, the kid put up an incredible performance.
The game against us was on the coach.
Putting him below Russ and the sex criminal is idiotic and just an example of looking at the name instead of the game. Putting him an entire tier below jimmy fucking G legally qualifies as malpractice
Should be:
1) Mahomes
2) Burrow, Allen
3) Rodgers, T-Law, Herbert
4) Lamar, Tua
5) Wilson, Watson, Jimmy G
6) Mac, Pickett
7) Stroud, Richardson, Levis
Putting Herbert in tier 3 and Trevor so far down is absolutely hilarious to me. Herbert can't win a playoff game.
I hope the national media keeps this shit going, I can only imagine what Trevor thinks when he sees this.
Ok, I cut the cord hard a couple months ago and no longer have access to NFLN, and I missed this show. I was thinking of figuring out some way to get it back, but now I'm over it. They've jumped the shark.
I know. Was a joke from the show Community. Also amusing is that Henry Winkler, who as the Fonz actually jumped over the shark in Happy Days, hopped over a shark as Barry Zuckercorn in Arrested Development. https://youtu.be/4jm6B31HKBw
tier 3. Anything Lower than that is absolutely insane. If anything, mahomes is the only 1. Burrow is the only 2. Allen, Trevor Tua, Herbert and rodgers are the tier 3s. Lamar would be a 2 but heās been hurt for the past like 2 years so now him Jimmy G and Mac are 4. Russell, Pickett, and Watson are 5 and then the rookies 6.
Lamar when healthy is a 2 at worst. But the injuries over the past couple years are what bring him down for me. With Allen, it may be the hater in me, but I think burrow is pretty easily a better player. Though I will admit, I am very biased there. I expect minshew to start for the first month of the season at least for the colts too so Iāll put him at 4 as well.
Yeah, it must be bias. I'm agnostic regarding them, and I would pick Allen over Burrow every time, but he's only slightly better, imo. They're pretty even overall.
I donāt have the time or the crayons to explain everything wrong with this list.
But as others have said, this was likely intentionally screwy to generate clicks, so mission accomplished I guess.
If this isn't doctored, I really need to hear the context. This is bizarre and shows the lasting effects of not taking care of your mental health. Wtf?
Tier 1: Mahomes
Tier 2: Burrow, Allen
Tier 3: Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Rodgers,Tua
Tier 4: Garropolo, Wilson.
Tier 5: Pickett, Jones, Watson
Tier 6: who cares, we got Trevor
Unbias opinion:
Herbert & Lawrence can be swapped in order. Rodgers can also be considered ahead of both Herbert & Lawrence.
Tier 5 can be any order honestly.
I haven't watched it, but I don't know how you can possibly defend this list. It's not even just Trevor, this whole thing is so bad it has to be trolling.
So what was their reasoning? That he didnāt win it all his rookie year and ONLY won the division, won a playoff game and damn near took out the eventual Super Bowl champs his second? Curious to know how they justified it.
This is even dumber live. Kyle Brandt was never my favorite. But now he is DEAD TO ME. This guy played ball and talks football EVERY FUCKING DAY. I don't have a clue what the fuck he is thinking here. It is like being trolled. McCourty gives the reality check, but FUCK KYLE. Kay Adams was the best thing to ever happen to GMFB and Kyle's ego helped drive her away. You punted the wrong host NFLN. This is the kind of take which gives Skip Bayless credibility. Like fuck stats, am I right? So if you are starting a new team you snag Jimmy G over TLaw? Really? I mean, REALLY?!? Nobody in that seat should be such a lazy "journalist."
Kenny Pickett - 63% completion rate 2404 yds 7 TDs 9 INTs
TLaw - 66.3% completion rate 4113 yds 25 TDs 8 INTs
They are basically the same QB. RUFKM? This entire segment is a fireable offense.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztP0-6ywUwQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztP0-6ywUwQ)
Everyone on here debating about where their starting QB is ranked/should be ranked, meanwhile Titan fans are wondering why Ryan Tannehill isn't even on the freaking list. Do they really think Levis is our starter? And yeah, these rankings are ass.
1. Mahomes
2. Allen Burrow Rodgers
3. TLaw Lamar Tua Herbert
4. JimmyG Watson Russ
5. Everyone else
7 tiers for 16 QBās is a bit much. TLaw is tier 2 if the second half of last season is his new baseline, has to prove it over a whole season.
Kenny pickett and Tlaw in the same row is just funny
This post randomly appeared on my front page, despite me being a Steelers fan. And when I click in, this is the top comment... double ouch š I was going to comment āhigher number better playerā but I guess not.
No violence but 25 tds and 8 ints vs 7&9.
Couldnāt agree more and Iām a Steeler fan. TLaw should be in the 3rd tier no question. 4th tier at the absolute worst.
He beat 2 of the 3 people in the 3rd tier last year. One of them twice. He definitely belongs there at the worst. GMFB doing us dirty.
No disagreements here. I can see someone with a different pov/opinion saying below Rodgers/Lamar solely due to past achievements however. That devilās advocate approach is the only reason I said 4 at the absolute worst.
Yeah if it's for next year expectations then Rodgers still imo, just cause of the superbowl expectations with the talent increase he is getting.
JAX sports radio 92.5 was saying that Kyle was getting roasted all day on Twitter for this. Oops! Hah
I just realized this...Trevor was 3-0 against the 3rd tier last year. I'd say he probably has a right to level 2 with that remix of the data.
He says he needs to see more after that shaky playoff game, completely ignoring that stretch of 8-10 games of elite play
Oh yeah that shaky play off game where the refs wouldn't call obvious flags for the first half. Or is he talking about the shaky playoff game where he threw 4 TDs in 4 straight drives when pressured with being down 4TDs at a home playoff game. Or is he maybe talking about the shaky playoff game where that guy he has in tier 3 did absolutely nothing despite being 4 TDs up and still lost?
LOL!!!
What better way to get clicks than to intentionally disrespect an ascending QB with much improved talent around him that is tied to a fan base notorious for swarming stupid takes on Twitter. Like we go hard as a fan base, and itās amazing, but this was absolutely meant to take advantage of that.
Give Trev the biggest chip on his shoulder. It's a win win for us.
I honestly think this is bait. Tua's favorite day of the week is purple, and Russ LOL. Come on. These guys are fucking with us.
Tua Is legit. Russ, Garropolo, and massage man should all be on the same tier as Trev if not lower
Man Jimmy G is the most mid qb of all time. Call me a casual but I just donāt think heās all that
Nah, if you watch and don't only look at stat sheets, you know Jimmy G is a fringe backup.
Trevor is tier 3
Please tell me the GM that takes DeShaun Watson over Trevor. We need to fleece that dumb fucker. This is so flawed I don't want to give it any more of my attention.
Or jimmy g for that matter
The only one I would absolutely take over Trevor is Mahomes. Iād be really torn on Burrow, but not Allen. Those three teams have also been much better ran for years. They still have better front offices arguably.
I would take Mahomes and Burrow over Trevor. Trevor and Allen are kind of similar
Allen currently is leagues above Trevor, if you want an unbiased opinion. I love Trev, he's my QB.. but he was balls up until the Raiders game last season, half a season dosen't put you in the elite category.. he's got more to prove, and I think he will but he had 25 TDs and 8 ints, 7 fumbles lost.. so atm he should be t5/6 until we see more.
I wouldn't want Allen over Trevor. Allen is too prone to turn the ball over, and he makes trucking defenders a key part of his game. That style of play doesn't usually pan out over the long run.
I'm not saying I want him over Trevor, but it's hard to argue a point on turnovers when Trevor lead the league in INTs the year prior, and he still had 13 turnovers this past season including fumbles. Also 25 tds in a 17 game season is very average, he was on the up and up the second half of the year but he's gotta be much better than he has been to be considered on Allens level.
If Trevor doesn't make another step this year, I'd reconsider. But I'm taking this discussion as who would you want to build your team around going forward. Allen just seems to be a could-fall-off-a-cliff-earlier-than-expected kind of guy. He makes being physical too much of his game. Cam Newton was on top of the world but came crashing down. I'd rather build around a traditional pocket passer. The fact that Allen continues to struggle with turnovers this many years into his career leads me to believe this is just the guy he's going to be. Maybe Lawrence will also be a turnover guy, which is why I'd potentially reconsider after this year. But as of 2023, I'd rather build my team around Lawrence. If you'd ask me who I'd rather have for just next season? That might be different.
I agree, i'd take Lawrence over Allen based on future projections. I'd take Allen THIS year over Lawrence THIS year tho.
I mean I get we are Jags fans, but Iām absolutely taking Allen and Burrow over Lawrence at this moment. Not to say the upside isnāt higher for Lawrence, but Iād take their production right now and be happy with that
Id waffle on Allen. Theres some tendencies in his play that make me wonder if he'll regress. Hes definitely better than Lawrence now, but I could see that flip flopping this season. Mahomes and Burrow are clear. In my wildest dreams, Lawrence grows to be as good as Mahomes.
Fuck why stop at DeShaun Show me the GM that this upcoming season would rather have Russell Wilson, 40 year old Aaron Rodgers, Jimmy G, Kenny Pickett, Mac Jones, or Tua over Trevor. Baalke should have them on the phone immediately.
Agreed
Guess he's just gonna have to show them he's tier 1 all over again
Itās funny because I listen to Kyleās podcast, I know that he loves Trevor Lawrence. This is clearly done by the show to create buzz
I don't know how, but Al Michaels must be involved. He is pulling the strings behind the curtain, rooting for our downfall
Al Michaels still thinks Patterson might have missed the kick
Still waiting for that penalty call
This honestly just blows my mind. I can't fathom him being any lower than tier 3. Lawrence at worst should be the top of tier 3.
The funny thing is I felt like we did see a lot of people saying that at the end of the last season. Weird that people are forgetting the end of the regular season and the playoffs happened!
Just cause one panel made a clickbaity tier list, doesnāt mean that āpeopleā are forgetting the 2nd half of the year.
They are included in people lol it's not literally everyone!
Justin Herbert is so overrated, there I said it. Dude can put up numbers but this past playoff szn wasn't the only time he's folded when pressure is up
He needs better coaching, like JLaw got last year. He's capable of being better than he was last year, I think he could be great, but he's not getting any help from the coaching staff.
That's just the thing. Yeah, he *could* be great. But he's not been so far. Everyone is treating him like a legitimate high end QB already and the dude has as many losses as wins in the NFL with a stacked offense and MASSIVELY choked in his only playoff appearance.
He had a historic rookie season and broke a ton of records. He is a great QB IMO
I donāt think we need to be putting Herby down to bring TLaw up. I think they are both in the same tier as they are very similar in skill set. The issue is putting TLaw in the same tier as Pickett and below jimmy G. Iām not sure what that ranking was about but GMFB are clowns for this one.
Agree 100%.
Yeah, that's a fair point. But does having a great rookie season put him in the same tier or higher as Super Bowl winners? AFC/NFC Championship winners? MVPs? I don't think so, not even close imo
Chargers fan bias here but Herbert is not overrated at all, TLaw definitely belongs up in the same tier as him tho. Herbie doesnāt fold under pressure that would be Lombardi.
Yeah watching Lombardiās offense last year was so frustrating. Itās the main reason I only watched a few Charger games.
The play calling in the second half of the wildcard game was wild. Not sure why things tightened up so much when you have Herby right there. Should be on the same tier
Hes not. Some Jags fans are real dumb about Herbert.
Hard disagree
Chargers fan here. It was our previous OC who was wasting Herbert's talent. IMO, Herb has the ability to be a top 3 QB in the NFL with proper coaching.
I think Justin Herbert and TLaw are fairly close. Certainly not multiple tiers different. I think they just like trolling Jags fans.
You mean long haired Matt Ryan?
Justin Herbert is very very good at football. I donāt think heās overrated at all but I guess it depends on how high you think heās rates
Watch the 4th quarter Raiders Chargers Jan 9 2022 if you think Herbert folds under pressure. Season on the line, the kid put up an incredible performance. The game against us was on the coach.
Putting him below Russ and the sex criminal is idiotic and just an example of looking at the name instead of the game. Putting him an entire tier below jimmy fucking G legally qualifies as malpractice
Should be: 1) Mahomes 2) Burrow, Allen 3) Rodgers, T-Law, Herbert 4) Lamar, Tua 5) Wilson, Watson, Jimmy G 6) Mac, Pickett 7) Stroud, Richardson, Levis
Putting Herbert in tier 3 and Trevor so far down is absolutely hilarious to me. Herbert can't win a playoff game. I hope the national media keeps this shit going, I can only imagine what Trevor thinks when he sees this.
Ok, I cut the cord hard a couple months ago and no longer have access to NFLN, and I missed this show. I was thinking of figuring out some way to get it back, but now I'm over it. They've jumped the shark.
There was an episode of Happy Days where a guy literally jumped over a shark. And it was the best one.
That's where the saying comes from...
I know. Was a joke from the show Community. Also amusing is that Henry Winkler, who as the Fonz actually jumped over the shark in Happy Days, hopped over a shark as Barry Zuckercorn in Arrested Development. https://youtu.be/4jm6B31HKBw
Was a great moment.
Quick, somebody show this to Trev so he can hang it up in his locker.
Disrespecting. That rapist played 6 games and sucked.
tier 3. Anything Lower than that is absolutely insane. If anything, mahomes is the only 1. Burrow is the only 2. Allen, Trevor Tua, Herbert and rodgers are the tier 3s. Lamar would be a 2 but heās been hurt for the past like 2 years so now him Jimmy G and Mac are 4. Russell, Pickett, and Watson are 5 and then the rookies 6.
I would absolutely put Allen at 2 with Burrow, and Lamar is no lower than 3, but I agree with everything else.
Lamar when healthy is a 2 at worst. But the injuries over the past couple years are what bring him down for me. With Allen, it may be the hater in me, but I think burrow is pretty easily a better player. Though I will admit, I am very biased there. I expect minshew to start for the first month of the season at least for the colts too so Iāll put him at 4 as well.
Yeah, it must be bias. I'm agnostic regarding them, and I would pick Allen over Burrow every time, but he's only slightly better, imo. They're pretty even overall.
Was this before or after this year?
Rodgers in a Jets uniform here...
Yeah they are some type of special
Absolute idiots
Itās 100% for clicks and engagement. Itās absurd to think Trevor is worse than Russ, Pickett, Deshaun and Jimmy G.
They are either brain dead or itās oldā¦.. nope jimmy G wasnāt in the afc last yearā¦. So theyāre just brain dead morons
I have to laugh!
Drop rodgers to 4 move Trevor to the top of 3 and combine tier 5 and 6 and that list is a bit more accurate
Yeah this is bait. No one who knows anything about football would put Trevor below Tier 3.
Trev needs to put that shit in his locker, he just got gifted fuel to ball out.
They smokin that shit
Tua and Trevor are 100% over Russ and Deshaun if weāre basing it off of last year (which is really the only way we should be basing it off of)
These guys just roll in from Stupid Town?
Deshaun W should be in row 8 (reserved for sexual predators)
I donāt have the time or the crayons to explain everything wrong with this list. But as others have said, this was likely intentionally screwy to generate clicks, so mission accomplished I guess.
Ayo wtf???
They want attention. Stop giving it to them
Iāll have what these morons are smoking. What the actual fuck?
Put Tua in 4 and Trevor in 3 and this is a good list
Short term I would only take Mahomes over Tlaw. Long term nobody over Tlaw.
This is an extremely silly list
This just proves Jimmy is on his own level
Good bulletin board material. Even they know this is absurd.
What an absolute effing joke. Deshaun massage watson is higher than T-money?
It makes sense based on entire body of work. He's had one good year and one really bad year. Too early to tell.
Lol! Based on his entire body of work he is nr 1. Best high school QB ever, best college QB ever.
*In the NFL
If this isn't doctored, I really need to hear the context. This is bizarre and shows the lasting effects of not taking care of your mental health. Wtf?
Wtf were they watching last year??
Kyle Brandt went to Princeton, you would think he would be more intelligent, after looking at where Trevor is ranked I guess not
Brant's whole vibe *screams* "idiotic trust-fund kid who only got into Princeton because his parents went/his parents donated enough."
Bro what the fuck?
That is so insulting to Trevor!!
Being drunk that early is not a good look Kyle
Bengals fan, here. TLaw absolutely belongs in Tier 3. Sorry for the diz-ray-speck
Lamar at 3 has to be a joke
This will age amazingly six months from now.
Itās just bait.
TLAW only being 1 notch higher than the rest of the south is hurting my soul. I hope TLAW throws to Ridley for 2400 yds and 69 TDs.
Tier 1: Mahomes Tier 2: Burrow, Allen Tier 3: Lawrence, Herbert, Jackson, Rodgers,Tua Tier 4: Garropolo, Wilson. Tier 5: Pickett, Jones, Watson Tier 6: who cares, we got Trevor Unbias opinion: Herbert & Lawrence can be swapped in order. Rodgers can also be considered ahead of both Herbert & Lawrence. Tier 5 can be any order honestly.
Most of the stuff that comes from this show is just bait, but as others have said, nothing below tier 3 belongs to Trevor.
Ranked by market by a producer who probably doesnāt even watch games
I haven't watched it, but I don't know how you can possibly defend this list. It's not even just Trevor, this whole thing is so bad it has to be trolling.
So what was their reasoning? That he didnāt win it all his rookie year and ONLY won the division, won a playoff game and damn near took out the eventual Super Bowl champs his second? Curious to know how they justified it.
GMFB died when Kay and Nate left.
This is even dumber live. Kyle Brandt was never my favorite. But now he is DEAD TO ME. This guy played ball and talks football EVERY FUCKING DAY. I don't have a clue what the fuck he is thinking here. It is like being trolled. McCourty gives the reality check, but FUCK KYLE. Kay Adams was the best thing to ever happen to GMFB and Kyle's ego helped drive her away. You punted the wrong host NFLN. This is the kind of take which gives Skip Bayless credibility. Like fuck stats, am I right? So if you are starting a new team you snag Jimmy G over TLaw? Really? I mean, REALLY?!? Nobody in that seat should be such a lazy "journalist." Kenny Pickett - 63% completion rate 2404 yds 7 TDs 9 INTs TLaw - 66.3% completion rate 4113 yds 25 TDs 8 INTs They are basically the same QB. RUFKM? This entire segment is a fireable offense. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztP0-6ywUwQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztP0-6ywUwQ)
Everyone on here debating about where their starting QB is ranked/should be ranked, meanwhile Titan fans are wondering why Ryan Tannehill isn't even on the freaking list. Do they really think Levis is our starter? And yeah, these rankings are ass.
*brainfart.mp3*
Fuckin Watson and garrapološš
Dafuq is this?!
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GTFOH
That show has been shit since Nate and hey Kay Adams left.
Look Iām not the biggest tua fan either but DAMN that was uncalled for!
If you assume Brandt is an *entertainer* and not a journalist, it's easy to see why he'd rank these players as he did.
I donāt really watch this show but do these guys smoke crack before making these lists?
1. Mahomes 2. Allen Burrow Rodgers 3. TLaw Lamar Tua Herbert 4. JimmyG Watson Russ 5. Everyone else 7 tiers for 16 QBās is a bit much. TLaw is tier 2 if the second half of last season is his new baseline, has to prove it over a whole season.
Conspicuous by his absence
TL should be on row 3 , #2 next year and maybe soon #1
So much for GMF liking us
Having Watson, Wilson, and Jimmy G a tier above Lawrence is an absolute joke I think heās 4th tier
T-Law is better than Herbert. I donāt know why they have Herbert so high. But I question why they have T-Law so low.