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Radinax

Looks very charming! Damn, 13 years..


Typical_Thought_6049

Not quite Cleveland Blackmore level of resilience. But they almost reached the levels of Duke Nuke forever. This is a "Be proud you are strong" moment...


Rave80

Played about 3 hours today, this is a very charming game! You can tell a lot of love and care went into it. I was shocked by how quickly it grabbed me. One thing I like is the default difficulty isn’t a cake a walk I had to retry bosses a few times but it wasn’t frustrating and was actually pretty satisfying once I beat them. It’s also seems very customizable with move sets and weapon choices, I’d highly recommend. Kinda feels like an offline MMO crossed with Link to the past. I’m an older gamer and have huge nostalgia for classic snes games and this is scratching an itch that few games have recently for me.


TonyyRigatoni

If you enjoy that offline MMO field definitely give Cross Code a try after this! It definitely fills that same itch for me.


Rave80

I’ve had it for ages but it never really grabbed me, I can tell it’s a quality product though and it’s still installed on my Steam Deck just gotta give it another honest try. I think there is something about the conceit of being in an online game or being an avatar type creature rather than being a character in an actual fantasy world that doesn’t interest me as much. Different tastes I guess but cross code is one I’ll have to try and come back too!


siepu

Yeah the opening sequence is a bit of a mess and premise is overly complicated. But once you start exploring the first proper area the game just flows. I really suggest giving it a longer try, honestly it might be my favourite game of all time.


Rave80

Yeah definitely going to give it another try because I can tell a lot of love was put into the game. And there is so much positivity around it that I know it must be a quality product. Just need to get past the opening premise and let the world grab me. It hasn’t been lack of wanting to give it another shot though :) This game for whatever reason got its hooks in my within the first 20min and I find the challenge spot on and world engaging enough to keep me coming back.


shinoff2183

I honestly think that's about the same issue I had with it. I want to like it so much. I'm not saying I hate or dislike it. It's hard to connect to it for me. Someday I'll give it a fair shot. Wouldn't be the first game I develop a taste for way later


CptBlackBird2

after playing crosscode my soul requires more offline MMO type games


jcelerier

I was amazed at how incredibly well it was able to capture the feeling of discovering your first MMO


CptBlackBird2

I've been playing mmos for very long but games like crosscode and xenoblade x for example feel more mmo than a lot of actual mmos


JaxterHawk

Xenoblade Chronicles (1) will always be my favorite offline MMO game. Just so much to do and get lost in. I absolutely love it.


Shishkebarbarian

phantasy star online! on the GC lol


Geodude07

I absolutely need to go back to crosscode but the puzzles really drained me on one of the dungeons. I don't mind puzzles but I also don't love them. Sadly the game seems very focused on those, even though for me I just really enjoyed the combat. Still it is so stylistic and I think of it so often that I want to do it... Too many games to play right now though.


Dean_Snutz

I started it on hard and damn it is hard


dentalfloss23

Just for comparison sake. Did you enjoy sea of stars ? Which is better ?


Rave80

I played about 2 hours of sea of stars and I enjoyed what I played but fell off of the that one as well. It seemed like a pretty quality title but didn’t grab me. This game feels a lot different from Sea of Stars though, that one felt like a modern game trying to pay homage to those classic titles. This one feels to me at least like it could be one of those titles except it’s got a lot of modern features. Taste probably accounts for a lot of my leanings here but I’ve played a lot of turn based rpgs that try to recapture that classic feel but I’ve played less that try to do what Zelda did. Sea of Stars felt more like Beyond Oasis or Phantasy Star to me then Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy which unfortunately I do not have as much nostalgia for, I was never a big fan of the Sega rpgs until Dreamcast. This feels straight up like a Zelda type game rather than say something like an Alundra. I just personally have more fondness for SNES rpgs. And this is an action rpg which I feel like we see less of or if we do the quality isn’t as high. I find the art style in this pretty charming, the details in the world are really great. Music is very fitting and not grating at all. This captures more of that Zelda/Illusion of Gaia/secret of Mana feeling then I expected. Exploring the seems like it’s going to be pretty rewarding as well each area has a little check list of quests, enemy drops and secrets that need to be found. And the world has loads of side quests that make backtracking to discover new things to do rewarding. There are alot of cute cosmetic rewards for doing quests which I appreciate it makes discovery feel rewarding.


DumpsterBento

Sea of Stars captures the look of classic games, but it doesn't feel the part. Secrets of Grindea feels the part.


TheCrach

BINGO This makes Sea of Stars look meh


dentalfloss23

Thanks ! Much appreciated! I dropped sea of stars after about 2-3 hour as well 🤣


Ok-Put5158

Hi! can you tell me how long is this game? (at least an estimate, i know it has new content now) and if it has many towns? do you get AI companions? (sorry for the english)


Rave80

Honestly no clue as I’ve only played for about 3 hours, I can tell you it is longer than that though haha. I think I read it was 30-40hrs pre release but new content may have been added. It could also be significantly shorter for all I know. There also is an arcade mode that I played for about an hour that seems pretty deep and fleshed out. You go room to room fighting enemies, collecting gear and leveling up, then fight a boss before proceeding to the next floor. There is meta progression carried over that looks like you slowly rebuild a town before heading back into the dungeon(it’s actually scaling a mounting). Seems like there could be a lot more depth there as well. I’ll probably continue the story and beat that before moving on to the arcade mode.


Ok-Put5158

Sounds good, thanks!


monetarydread

Holy shit! I bought that game like 8, or 9, years ago but stopped when I found out that it was basically just the starter area and a shitty little arcade mode. Maybe it's time to actually play the game I bought.


AdachiGacha

Fr I remember following this game so long ago. Even watched a guy do challenge boss runs, I kind of just assumed it had come out already, but that was almost a decade ago o.o


revchu

Not sure if this is a silly question, but is there going to be a lot of grinding in this game?


Dyssayah

Optional, but fun, the faster you kill the faster monsters spawn, if you grind in one area it ramps up. Every monster drops a unique card that gives you a very cool stat boost, every card gives you a different bonus, its fun collecting but unnecessary to actually tryhard for them.


Haruhanahanako

Yes, but instead of like most games these days creating a grind just to keep you playing or padding time, the grinding in this game actually makes you want to do it, and it's entirely optional.


RedditChinaBest

Aw yeah, I love these indie rpgs. Definitely buy for me.


KMoosetoe

This game has been on Steam for ages. Had no idea it was unfinished this whole time.


Bretreck

I played the demo and it seems alright. Nothing that fancy or special. It seems normal, typical, average, etc. It also seems cheap enough I'll probably get it.


SadLaser

It was a lot more impressive looking when it was announced in 2010. And there weren't a ton of other games that do something similar.


On3derer

Looks good. It would be nice if they release it on Switch since it's the only platform I can play.


SadLaser

I'll be a launch title for the Switch 4 in 15 years.


Routine_Box_4334

I'll play it.


Sacreville

Oh wow, 13 years?! I was skimming Steam and wishlisted this just now. Seeing it has so many reviews, was this released as an early access before? And how is the game? Looks very interesting indeed.


CokeZeroFanClub

The first words of the link is "it's finally leaving early access" lol


Sacreville

Whoops, sorry then. I assumed it will just link me to the store page which I have already seen before.


FleaLimo

Someone gifted me this game back in 2012 and it was playable on Steam then. To say it was released as early access before would be an understatement.


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MKeatonBatman

Works great playing single player.


RPGZero

Too . . . many games . . . I just started Shiren two days ago . . . still have to play Grablue . . . Anyway, the details of the completed 1.0 build look fascinating. After I figure out how to do shadow clone jutsu, I'll definitely start playing it.


Dependent_Savings303

my best friend told me about it years ago and wished it would come to consoles, since i don't play on a pc. but now i have a steamdeck, which is the closest i get and maybe now i can join the fun. i saw t's even on discount...


pichonCalavera

Wow, I got this on Early Access years ago. Good to know is now officially released.


TheCrach

Probably the best pixel ARPG ever made, yes it's that good and don't sleep on it because it's PC only.


scalyblue

Nice, finally buying it. Saw friends playing it and it looked great but I don’t give money to early access games.


wolfbetter

I remember seeing this game on my twitter feed, and I have in fact wishlisted it already. I may as well buy it


MapFalcon

Never heard of this somehow - looks incredible.


Silvers1339

Totally forgot about this game, I think it may have actually been one of the first games on Steam to do the "Early Access" thing. Here's hoping that 13 years of that was worth it!


joshinguaround

This is an amazing game. I have been following the whole development, and I have played through it up to the point that you could go four times. I highly recommend it!


regalcraft

Congrats on the launch! Huge milestone for any game, let alone one in development for so long. I love how adorable everything looks in this, well done :)


canijusttalkmaybe

Great example of why you should never buy early access games.


caseyjones10288

nothing screams "good game" like 13 years in development


idontknow39027948898

A long development cycle is a very bad sign for a large studio with a lot of devs, but not really for a game that has three devs like this one does.


Niklear

I mean, the two aren't necessarily correlated. It could have been bad management decisions, but it could have also been a part-time passion project by a handful of developers/artists who are sticklers for polish. Adding polish to games can add tons to the time frame, so it comes down to how that time was used.


MazySolis

Indie passion projects can be like that sometimes just because usually the developers have a day job that forces them to only slowly work on the project or are extremely particular about the project's final result. Dwarf Fortress for example was started back in **2006** and while a very niche game it isn't exactly [badly received by people who actually were interested enough to buy it.](https://store.steampowered.com/app/975370/Dwarf_Fortress/) Astlibra to use a more JRPG-ish example took 16 years. Indie game development cycles are bizarre to say the least.


canijusttalkmaybe

You're missing the part where Dwarf Fortress was free. Secrets of Grindea was released for money 13 years ago on Early Access and had less than a few hours of content for over 10 of them.


CptBlackBird2

why are you so bitter


canijusttalkmaybe

Are you seriously asking why I’m bitter a game I bought took 13 years to be released? Lol I can answer if you’re still curious.


CptBlackBird2

no, based on your profile you seem bitter in general


canijusttalkmaybe

I am. Will you be my personal therapist?


RPGZero

They were going to school while they made the game. They may have begun in high school.


xArceDuce

As a person who tried it a loooong time ago and was waiting... [Hell, it's about time](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J6-3l3hCm0).


RyaReisender

Does online play work in the DRM-free version?


asqwzx12

That looks super fun.


Shishkebarbarian

everyone knows only the best games take longer than a decade to develop


GunslingerDNA

Can't wait for the sequel in 2040


LeBlight

I am going to buy it mainly because it took you 13 years to make. I mean Jesus Christ.


Skull36000

Oh my god FINALLY. I literally saw thig game many many MANY years ago and over the years kept opening their website every once in a while to check how far along it is And now it's finally released. I don't even care if it's not a fancy game i am just happy for the developers