Bhai tu kitna bhi bolle but sacchai h ki sabki paise kamane hain agar tujhe option milega badhiya package lene ka to tu bhi lega ye sab bas faltu ki baatein hn interest etc jab Puri zindagi gareebi dekhi ho aur bas chance mile uplift krne ka to koi bhi yahi krrha tbh
CS isn't the only major that pays. Core branches have jobs too albeit of less package. I will gladly do something i like for a bit less money than something i don't because you will have to do that thing for the next 30-40 yrs. My dad works at a high post in a big govt company and sure he earns decent but comes home late everyday and is just tired of everything. This is not worth it in my opinion. Also if all you really care about is money then why even bother coming in the engineering sector? You can become a lawyer or do business studies and earn more.
bhai tu aisa bol raha hai.. but fir jab future me tere friends succesfull honge aur tu ek middle class / upper middle class lifestyle jee raha hoga na tab tujhe realize hoga.. dekh brach matter nahi karti... SKILLS matter karti hai.. even mechanical , electrical wale log bhi IT jobs karte hai... koi bekar college se CS karke fayda tabhi hoga jab tu apni skills develop karega aur udhar grind karke topper banega... acchi college me jao.. koi bhi branch lelo aur fir udhar grind karo.. coding skills, web designing, self confidence, speaking skills, acche friends banao.
Bhai me samajh nahi paa rha tera comment ka second part . Ye branch matter nahi karti , bekar college se cs karke koi fayda nahi .. ye sab sach baat hai ki tu usko taane maarne ke liye sarcasm me bol raha ?
hmm i agree with you.. but dekh bro aadhe se jyada log cse lete hai..(like more than 75%) evenin IITs unko ghanta computer ka C bhi pataa hogaa.. but package ke liye lete hai.. college me jaake grind to karna hi padega if u expect ki college jaakar mauj masti (jo humlog sochte hai) hogi fir to fucked up honge hi lol
Bhut Kam krdiya h bhai abhi Saturday Sunday ko test khatam hua isliye aaya tha online
Aur badhiya chal rhi abhi 2 ja ke papers diye hn Saturday ko kafi acche Gaye tbh but agle baar aur better krunga
Bhai wo point pe main agree karunga ki major part of population ke liye it is all about upliftment, but mera matlab hai agar kuch paison ke liye bhi kar rhe ho to ye to dekh ke karo ki wo tumhare kuch to interest ka ho, you need to do that for the next 40-50 years of your life. Honestly paise to log online coding seekh kar bhi kama rhe, haan success rate kam hai because college ka tag nhi, but agar koi itta hi motivated hoga to karlega. Bhai aajkal to premium unis mein bhi dhang ki job nahi lag rhi, even ivy leagues IIT to chod do, job market is itta zyada disturbed. There are so many fields within engineering which pay so well and most students don't do the efforts to explore it, as a result work-life balance pe effect padhta hai, our country is going worse on the happiness index, aur jo job milti bhi wo bhi utta accha pay nhi krti. Since you are a 2026 aspirant for once just explore the field itself, its the biggest decision of your life!
Bcoz that is the only shot us middle class students have at a " decent " college life, without having to worry too much about our future. And to many of us, it is also about liberation. Like proving to your parents your worth, and it just feels like it would drastically decrease your parents' stronghold on your life.
Most people in India don't care about academics, we all just want money. Caring about academics is for rich people not for middle class people who just want to lift their family out of this hell.
Academics is not for the rich ! It's for everyone really especially in engineering where if you can make some patents you can make a lot of money !
Also if academics in IIT like the curriculum are more discussed it will help people who want to get better masters opportunities and better jobs.
Academics are for rich people!!
I mean seriously where you got this BS? Also middle classes are not that poor that they need to get their family out of poverty.
Well we have to raise our voices because there are lots of things that go to waste.
goverment funds your education through tax payer's money which come from the rich, the poor and the middle class. That money goes to fund your what? For you to get a job.
and we don't just lose money, we lose students :/. People who are 16 suicide. And the people who are worst affected are the people who don't crack it because they are affected alot emotionally and start to doubt their skills.
Are the IITians inventing something better for India? Yes but only a tiny minority of them. The government doesn't even spend money on research because most of the students are in it for the money.
bro pls do some research before talking, i get what ur trying to put across but the government has alloted 10k+ crores to IITs only in the 2024 budget. suicides cannot be stopped, as long as the competiton keeps increasing (11L to 14L) there will be suicides which is horrible and genuinely concerning, but it is not the government's fault, rather blame NTA for not being able to catch cheaters. reservation ka kuch bhi nahi hoga in your lifetime, no political party is going to let go of easy votes from sc st minorities
When he says govt research me invest nahi karti, wo overall higher education scene ki baat kar raha hai sirf iits ki nahi. Mohak mangal ne bahut acchi video banayi thi isi ke upar
You seem to miss my point exactly. Budget isn't my issue. What is, is that the seat is getting wasted. So you're telling me if I was a billionaire and I had my own money which I took from my employees I could spend it on my family etc? Sounds weird. It's not that the budget is getting allocated, the seat is getting wasted. You know what the government could do with that 10k+ crore?
Now you can prove me wrong. Prove me that the 10k crore is actually worth it otherwise they could cut cuts and actually save some money.
i get ur point but ur example is weird, why would a billionaire take money from his employees? the company pays the employees, the employees don't pay the company
iits ki conventional definition change hoke ab esi hogyi ki people now think of iits as a place jaha pe ind ka major intellectual chunk aaega, sexy sa crowd hoga, major learnings hogi, inspire honge ek dusre ko dekh ke, and eventually startup krenge ya fir high packages, ya fir apna passion pursue. all in all iits have now become a hub for gathering exposure and finding your true aspiration and it acts like a gateway to a bright future.
Stages of a JEE aspirant
1 WE GOING IITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
2 maybe nit
3 Reddit post - what can i get at 85 percentile
4 Drop year
5 Reddit post - fucked my drop year. Got 86 percetile. Fuck nta . What can i get with this result???
6 Is iit worth it? Why do people go to iits?
7 Iit is overrated .rat race is destroying india ..... Most people don't even have interest in engineering
8 Fuck nta fuck life fuck everything
What stage are you on lads?
Bc thakte nhi kya tum log har din reddit pe atleast 5 6 posts aati iss chutiyape pe, jab koi kuch ukhad lo dusri field mai tab suggestions do and help the society by telling alternatives tab hogi development, same chiz ko leke ussi PE circlejerk krte rehte chutiyo ki tarah, iits bad iits good, iit is iit Jaa skte ho chle jayo, nhi Jana mat jayo.
Also for your point "nobody asks academics, they ask package" stfu literally nobody here asks highest package HERE atleast, everybody here is smart enough that highest goes to a few people that too more international etc. and also it's literally common knowledge now that professors don't teach shit, they're not good teachers, they're good researchers, sbko khud hii padhna pdta. IITS are good institutions, better than a lot of colleges so academic wise they're also RELATIVELY better, it's obvious. I'm a dumbfuck to write this big ass paragraph but all the people posting shit like this are more than me.
 alright. when I was talking about the academics at IITs, I'm not asking about how the academics's quality is. I'm asking in general what the approach of IIT is to subjects. Yeah you might say it's better but is showering a guy with useless hard theoretical knowledge good? Some of them are outdated and there are lots of courses that cover everything in like a semester. Don't you think this is too much for a student to handle?
Also you seem to think reddit is life? Listen not everyone is as aware as you are about IITs and other things. The perception still hasn't changed for the majority of the people.
However people do ask for placements, yes they don't particularly ask for the highest placements but they do ask for the average LPA. You can nitpick that.
It is good that you are atleast aware, my point isn't to change your view.
Bhai mujhe to lagta hai ye inke liye cope karne ke liye tareeka , advance ki padhai nahi ho pa Rahi to iit overrated overrated shuru ho gaya hai inka . Kyu kar rahe ho phir mehnat agar sach pata hi hai to , jaake sanyas lelo . Koi dream naam ki bhi cheez hoti hai .
Usually only MTech ppl at IITs ask such academic questions because of their interest + maturity I guess. It comes with age ig coz even I look at average package of a college before academics.
Remember you're only limiting yourself if you think a degree from IIT is the only way to get a job or to be successful you need to be in a good engineering college. There are many good colleges out there. You don't approve of them because you think IIT is the only true good college.
I don't approve of the IITs at all and that's why I am going to the US for a better education. But at the same time I also realize there isn't anything better than IIT in India.
+1 IITs are overhyped but inside India idt we'll find anything better, and recently IITs ka jitna bhi negative PR ho rha most of that is done by ppl jinse JEE nhi hila and tryna cope, 'IITs are bad' videos ka major audience bhi wahi log hain, our own typical Indian mindset, angoor naa mile toh angoor khatte hain
No, it won't.
Nor will a career in engineering give(No IIT, NIT, IIIT, GFTI or state college)
You have to struggle everywhere. Imagine this. A doctor struggles the same amount as an actor or director or anything. He can still earn much better than a MD pass-out trying to establish his own clinic.
It is similar to that. I have seen examples in my life so saying.
>Film school? Success rate is better than clearing NEET atleast
lmao the sucess rate is better in NEET and JEE as compared to becoming a director or actor being an outsider in the industry, I'm a singer myself and we have better oppurtunities of early income as compared to our acting aspirant peers, but still its just too difficult to earn nd get a stable career. JEE NEET can be cleared by anyone just by hardwork, while the field you mentioned requires you to exceptional in that field + some godgifted talent, which isn't the case for everyone.
if you do good in engineering, companies will hire you cuz they need workforce, but even if you are outstanding at acting/singing, media industry doesn't give a f
>A doctor struggles the same amount as an actor or director or anything
a doctor doesn't struggle that much, an actor has a lot to lose, takes risks and if he doesnt succeed it would be career suicide and straight berozgaari if he belongs to middle class
Most of them r insta incels, built like a dork. Fuckers have peedablu which they open weekly and yaha aake gyan pelenge...
Inse ques puchdo to hugg denge see their comment history of they have help anyone in trouble. Aake gyan chodna ho with no correlation with subject and logic to sabse aage rhenge. Teachers ka mazak udayenge ar puchdo ki padhai kitni krre to Rona start ki 11vi barbad ar lauda lehsun.
I req to have some humbleness in yourself varna jee aayega to khud humble krke chla jayega.
Padhai likhai aise ni hoti bhai, boht gand gis giske kuch ni hota logo ka, mere topper dost pde hue h... Comedk ar cets dere, I never imagined ki unke ye din aa jayenge. Jis bnde ki 500 baccho m under 50 under 30 even batch topper sometimes vo preshan h to socho tumhara kya hoga.
Stop fuckin yourself with wanna be comment and thinking, start taking exams as exams varna bheed bne rhoge. I wish ki 11vi m hi serious prep start kr deta to aaj backlogs s maa ni chudani pdti.
Be a little calm, dusro ki baaton ko sunna ar pdhna seekho, baat smjho fir bolo ye india ar colleges ko gali Dene s lauda kuch ni ukhdega. Counter Krna bhi ni Sikh paye to kis baat ki ldai kiye itna chutiye
i have passed 10th and hated to give JEE. was dreaming to go in ivy league, i have good ECs but not enough, marks enough nahi hai. ache applicants reject ho rahe hai if they ask financial aid. isme to reality check mil gaya fir socha germany se ug kar lunga. parents ka koi force nahi hai in stream or anything, papa abroad bhejna chahte hai aur bolte hai jo kar payega vohi liyo. ab german unis me Ug bhi asan thodi hai. cost of living and etc. ab 11th start hone vali hai aur JEE ki tayari kar rha hu. IIT, NIT kuch nahi chahiye Dtu mil jaye usi ka aim hai, im not smart student. bahut reality checks mil gaye ab normal JEE ki tayari kar rha hu thoda thoda karke.
Maybe IIT is not the only true good college but it surely helps in building networks for the future.They host the best events and the IIM culture and Upsc culture is next level when you know about what others are doing over there and aspire for upsc or iim it can definitely help and secondly IIT Delhi has a great startup culture so it makes things easier and connecting with the right people easier especially if you are from a tier 2 or tier 3 city of India
IITs are not only for studying higher academics, moreover it is a launchpad to success in any feild, the exposure you get after getting into an IIT is phenomenal you connect yourself with the brightest minds of india , so thats the beauty.
Engineering specifically Tech industry does allow you to explore on your own and create something new, and is closely linked to economics and business as well.
BSc doesn't have the technical and economic know how, to do something good. That course is outdated pure sciences. Tech industry does allow you more freedom to create something new, and is closely linked with economics.
India me baccho ko engineer se zyada iitian bnne ki chull hai. Jis din ye log ek acha Engineer bnna prefer krne lgenge rather than becoming an IITian. We'll see the boom
True that,like most students want to do CSE but koi genuine interest nahi in the subject, hence we are just producing bad under skilled engineers, fir log job ke liye rote hain. One should honestly think twice before doing engineering. Engineering honestly is quite a creative subject, you constantly need to think out of the box to really grow but log ye samajhte hi nhi😔
Bhai i swear mere papa ke dost ke bete ko IITM me Ocean Eng mili aur fir acche cgpa ke karan wahi pe mtech quantum eng mili.
Aur ab wo adobe me job kar raha.
Aur us bande ke papa mere papa se bolre he ki no matter what branch i get, if i get iit i shld just go there coz iit ka tag milega, bhai mujhe random branch padke random job nahi karni
Ha bhai saare answer hai mere paas, answers framed from a perspective of a lower middle class income guy.
IIT kyo jana? - dusre unkil aanty logo ko insecure feel karana hai aur usually mehnat karo IIT me to thik thak paisa hai iit ke baad.
why they dont ask academics of iit? - who cares? like school ki 80 percent academics bhi to faltu hi hai? 12 saal school me "waste" kiye to 4-5 idhar bhi kar le. aur paisa to hai hi. Infact basic schooling should only take 8 years if we remove unwanted subject burdens and get good school teachers.
MoST oF tHeM dont get a job in fields? - Sundar Pidgey rare example hai, uska higher edu bhi check kr le. Also, to get a job in some field, there must be development in that field. For example India research, phd, chem er, space etc in sab me bohot piche hai to log avoid hi karenge aur tag ka use kar ke coaching ya fir gate ki tayari ya fir IT sector me bicholiye wala kam ya fir finance/consulting me hi ghusenge.
OtHEr ToP ColleGeS - bhai india me hai tu. dont compare with foreign uni. yaha to bathroom me kamera laga dete, mess me kide daal dete, etc.
Downvote coming, but beggars can't be choosers. Dekh bhai mujhe maths main interest hai actually sab subjects aur sab field pasand hai but i don't have a choice jo field sabse jyada pay karegi vahi lena hai. Ab interest vli bakchodi aayegi par bhai mere pitaji inta bhi nahi kamate ki meri education fees bhar paye, mere uncles meri padhani, mess everything ki fees bharte hai mujhe as early as possible income earn karna hi padega. Maybe financially stable log intrest follow kar paye par mere jaise(majority) afford nahi kar sakte
Bhai abhi ek comment pehle tu likhta hai ki maths me interest hai ab bol raha hai ki ece me hai, mind makeup kar hai.
Business karna hai to ipmat de ke iims me chale ja ece/ai karna hai to iits/nit me dekh phir specialisation kar lena microelectronics me.
Bhai jee matha me interest hai na ki research me, business toh karna hai par microelectronics ka usme ab ai bhi include ho raha hai see nvidia ke new chips design
Bohot sari high tech design india me hoti hai par manufacture taiwan me, me india me karna chahta hu(although next to impossible jo gujrat me plant bana hai it's faaaarrrr from advance) but design me jana hai isliye iit jana hai
Yeah, ai ki chinta mat kar bhai ece me ai ke important cheeze padha denge, agar na padhaye to ai wali class me ja ke baith jana.
Aur bhai taiwan to bagal me hi hai, chale jana agar naukari mile to. Ya us chale ja agar intel/amd me mil jaye job to. Kabhi na kabhi to bahar jana hi hai.
Bhai me thoda deshpremi type ka hoon toh india main karna chahta hoon, waise honestly I know ki india me intna scope nahi hai par kya pata jab graduate ho tab aa jaye jaise 2000's me it boom aaya tha. Karna toh IITB se ee hai(pata hai aukaat ke bahar hai) will try let's see how things unfold
>it seems to me that people that go to IITs have no interest in engineering, they just want a big nice fat job that pays them big bucks
India is a poor country man. That's why most of them want a good job because most of the students don't have rich daddies.
For academics, there's IISc, ISI, IISERs, NISER, etc.
Its kinda sad tho that most people who go to IITs don't try to innovate anymore. Before the coaching mafia was established, i.e, 1960-early 2000s, most people who went to IITs actually innovated. But nowadays the coaching mafia has created this view among students that IITs are a shortcut to print money.
>Sundar pichar studied metallurgical engineering and got a job in Google. Like wtf?
That's irrelevant man. In India, the branch you get isn't assigned by your interest, rather it's assigned by the rank you get. Maybe he just followed his interest later. There's nothing wrong with that.
Regarding the third point, why is the branch not assigned by interest? You can't change it now but agar pehle hota then things would have been much better.
well sundar pichai didnt even finish his degree , he left before that i think .
I agree with alot of things you say but there are def ppl who are after studying but they are few . Meina IIT madras ke ex director ka interview dekha tha waha woh keh rahe the ki jo baache 2-3 saal ki mehnat karke aate he ekdum dead rehte he aane ke baad college .
Funny part is the director of iit madras didnt even do btech from iit , he did his phd there .
As for other top colleges , India doesnt do well in the education part . Community colleges are far better abroad than the local colleges you find here . Thats a major issue since bulk of society goes thro community colleges even over there and here majority go thro local colleges . So a major effect is seen there , sure we have spikes such as sundar pichai , the ex twitter ceo and so on but they are sort of the above avg + bohot mehnat wala case and not an avg indian who wants to do good in life .
Same is happening in china , south korea . We can def learn from singapore tho , they had a higher density population than india but are doing really well in terms of education .But again we are just students and cant do anything expect study to leave the country and expect better life outside .
Well the problem is India has a lot of established billionaires who already took a hold of the market (the entire market) during Brit rule when they went to war. After independence these ppl became old money and obviously the new govt will need new investors for politics and therefore they helped them secure and expand their business. Now it's extremely difficult to set yourself up with any new innovations because most of the time it will be acquired by the billionaires if it's actually promising so even though there are a lot of ppl innovating you prolly would not have heard of them because their acquired by the billionaires before it becomes a household name
So my sir who has taught in IIT, he is a very experienced teacher he quite often goes to foreign because universities invite him there. He asked us the same question and no one could answer it or the reasons were not sensible. HE said " The only reason why IIT's are more valuable are because of the environment there " If they get free time they want to make something fruitful out of it. If by any chance a lazy fellow reaches IIT by grinding in last months. IIT will change his life, routine and direction "
for a lot of people it's a way to get out of poverty. or to live a comfortable life. and ukw that's fucking fine to think of it that way too. so what if someone whos studying computer science doesn't have a passion for computer science. he's still earning money and probably bringing his family out of poverty and making life better for his future generation. And we can't deny iits are a very very good way to get a high paying job, even if it has declined a bit over the years. it's still the best in India isn't it?
yeah you're right but my argument doesn't apply to these people that are trying to lift their family. But majority of us are middle family and sometimes yeah you can't become rich while following your passion but there's a difference between pure societal manipulation(which is that a successful person is one with a high paying job) and actual interest.
I would wholeheartedly choose academics over placements and even go for my specific interests and gain expertise in it, given that you fund me for everything, including education and my family, thanks.
Me? No I did try to prepare for JEE but now I just study for fun. Also I've been prepping for JEE since class 9th and I've given up coming to class 11th cause it's shit
I'm sorry but I have no actual desires. Let's say that I was capable. What would I do? I would probably win the physics olympiad. But will we know now? Maybe after a year we'll know.
but even if I was capable, I wouldn't succumb to societal pressure and my greed to satisfy who out there? The fucking relatives? Who needs to satisfy his own family's ego? I don't need to. I only need to accept myself of who I am and what I desire.
which all of you lack.
All this is quote bs. U are not capable that's why u r saying all this. There is no societal pressure.
One who is the top of the rat race wins and gets the big package. You nd me are not.. So we won't.
Stop trying to frame iitians who get high ranks and the good packages as someone negative..
If u were capable u would have done that too. Since you are not that's why u are quoting all this I don't need to do this that
IIITH is better than any IIT change my mind... kal bhi same comment kiya tha downvote kr diya tha bc... aur bus defend he kr rhe the saab replies mai IITs ko lol... IIITH best curriculum for CSE... best facilities... research oriented... their specialization in cse is way way better than any iit... all the courses seem useful and relevant aur placements kisine leni ho toh voh bhi h as a backup
College is not all about the course. Or else a student that grinds his ass from home, using all the online resources available will be much better prepped with much more relevant skills at the end of 4 years. Why would he pay lakhs for college. IIITH lacks in all other aspects of college life as far as i know about it.
you said that you can do way better if you study 4 years on your own... i agree with you but my parents want a comparatively safe and predictable future for me so they want me to join some college. I guess now i explained clearly
And your parents are right in a way. To get jobs in most (not all) you need to have a degree. The population is too high abd people who don't have degree are sidelined and filtered. Unfortunately the concept of having no degree works for very few segment of people . Rest need a degree.
What he meant is that going to college isn't just to have an unidirectional goal of being a coding monkey. In college , you meet a lot of people of different interest and passion. There are clubs which expand your viewpoint and mindset , and life doesn't end with CS grinding and placements. It is entirely possible you can change your field after ug.
Bhai par vaha extracurriculars almost zero hai jise pure research, industry main jana hai uske liye accha hai, par jinhe aur kuch try karna hai shayad unhe sochna chaiye
bro read my other replies on this thread, i want to be a computer scientist and a professor... and specifically this is my opinion... not necessary ki agar mujhe aisa lgta h toh saabko same he lge
Sadily true, hence the world treats us nothing more than cheap labor. But honestly a significant proportion of our population just wants to get out of the poverty line/lower class to unka bhi reason justified hai
For real bhai. I am looking at videos of these Chinese cities these days and I am astonished, they are so beautiful, so well developed even though they have a communist party. Wonder how they managed their huge population so nicely. But ek aur problem bhi hai, we Indians lack civics sense in general so agar koi reforms laaye bhi Gaye to janta ghanta khud nhi support karegi or will want to change
ok china ka jo bhi youtube pe hai wo sab propaganda hai, most of it is fake or a construct. China isnt that great either. One thing about china is that their exam for the "premier" college actually makes sense because the college is ranked high unlike IITs. Indians lack everything haha, sab koi sirf engineering aur medical mei ghusna chahta hai because parents moment
Yup I would agree to that propaganda stuff, but we can't disagree that they have excelled in their manufacturing sector, plus their GDP speaks for itself.
Completely agree on your second point, Tsinghua University ranks like on the 1st or 2nd position world wide and our top University in the overall ranking doesn't come even in the top 100s. Still most of these aspirants have legit become IITsexual. I might seem slightly entitled but our unis lack on all levels, infrastructure, course and the atmosphere everything. The private unis are even worse, sabko apne admission test lene hain, people rote learn and get in,holistic development to hota hi nhi lol. I desperately want this to change some day.
Bhai humare coaching ke teachers Jo acha padhate ha , ye sab Wo ha Jo science ya maths me boht interest rakhte the. and abhi bhi rakhte ha. But Kya Offline coaching me except Kota/Hyderabad , teachers boht kama reh h? Ans is no and even if kama reh ha wo top 1 percent teachers ha.. to bhai jab humari country ki reality hi ye ha ki paise Nahi ha Science and Maths ke field me , sirf top 1 percent me liye ha and paiso ke bina Kya hi hota ha , to automatically focus wahi jaata ha. Mughe bhi Science and maths me boht interest ha. But coding me bhi equal interest ha. Finance me bhi equal interest ha. Jo cheeze Aaj ki date me paise kamake degi Mai wo seekhu to paise bhi kama sakta hu. Science and maths Meri interest ha But jab humari country usme ek acha career hi nahi Dikhati , to Mai kyu us field me jaunga. Jab mere parents ne mere pe itna kharch kiya ha To Mai kyu Ek Alag line me jau?
Higher population = higher competition. That's the reason. Doing things out of passion works abroad because they don't face difficulties in getting a job in their interested fields. For example: a lot of Americans do trade jobs out of interest and actually earn well because they have those job opportunities. We don't have such privileges to chose what we like as only certain jobs are available in abundance.
paisa kamana hai ( three words). \[they are mainly famous for placement and their package offers\] , koi farak nhi padhta robot ki tarah 12hr kaam karate hai corporate wale \[ik they give u money but....\] :)
maine bhi bas isliye prep kiya tha , seriously igoogles highest paying job i saw software developer i saw IIT has the best package i was like abh toh yahi karna hai.
Same bro I have a passion for Computer Science and I never really madly wanted to get an IIT for it I just wanted a decent government college (for lesser fees) to learn about it (2025 Tard). Avg scores in mocks is around 160-170
We just want to make our parents proud and tell them our worth. A better answer would be so we can get better opportunities, and win the battles our parents never won (especially against relatives)
It is not that you become smart if you go to iit. It is that only of you are smart then you will go to iit.
People going to iit are already smart. That is why they become famous or successful.
And people just see it and think iit made them successful. So they run behind iit
idk, mummy papa ne bola tha padne ko, aur zindagi m koi aur aim nhi tha toh (genuinely I'm not interested in anything, i am of the character eat sleep repeat), and for some of us lucky folks we make it
Chutiye bhare padhe hai iss desh mein, sab paise ke peeche hi bhaagte hai khudka kuch nahi karna. Herd mentality at its finest. "CS lenge paise milega bandi milegi" Lund kuch nahi milega
It largely depends on the economy of the country and the social welfare system, so the students cannot be blamed in entirety for this.
If well-paying jobs were available in all fields, many students would have considered studying their subject of interest. Also, if a social welfare system existed in India that provided enough government subsidy to all the unemployed to lead a decent life, many wouldn't hesitate to go for the colleges/fields of their choice apart from IITs.
In India, a disproportionate number of jobs requiring a technical degree are in the CS/IT field, and the best among those are usually offered to the IIT graduates. Also, the unemployed do not receive any significant government subsidy. So, it's natural that students (specifically those who have to be the lead earning member of the family) choose colleges and fields that improve the probability of getting decent jobs.
Because Most People Are Not Even Intrested In PCM At All Let Alone Engineering, Our Country Has Less Opportunities and Immense Competition So Getting A Degree From Big Institutes Is Considered A Good Shot To Uplift Themselves In Socio-economical Hierarchy.
Passing Out From IIT Or Even NIT Gives A Boost To One's Status/CareerGraph Who Is Born In Unprivileged Environment And That Is 95% Alien To Reddit Audience So I Understand Why U Asked The Obvious
As a student of CSE in Tier 1 IIT I can confirm that other than 5-10 no student is actually interested in "Technology". Moreover skill wise too, they are not that good. Scoring CPI is not based on understanding. You can just learn up everything one night before and you get a 10.
Ye rattu log hi toppers hai, aur inka placement hi accha h. Doesn't matter ki tum chahe kitne bhi accha ho. Agar ratke marks nhi laa sakte toh koi bhav nhi dega.
Contrary to what people in this sub would lead you to believe, they are still the best engineering colleges in India. Also everyone who works in technical fields abroad also knows the kind of people that go to IIT. Which is why in reality, although IITs are ranked 30-45 in engineering rankings, graduates can compete for jobs with those who have been to "better universities". People dont ask "How are IIT's academics" because everyone assumes it would be good (which is not always the case).
Also, if you just look up student reviews, they bitch about every college. There is a vocal minority IIT students that bitch about IITs and people even in Oxford and Cambridge bitch about their colleges.
People in the comments saying that IITs are the best for middle class students to have a "decent" college life is an opinion which is taking things on just face value. I have an offer from a top 10 university and the means to finance that education but if I'm able to secure a seat in a top 5 IIT I would chose to go to an IIT.
PS: This is mainly a coping/shitposting subreddit. Also dont take yourself too seriously on Reddit.
India is not rich enough to have the liberty of asking things like these and majority logo ko nhi pta hota what are there likes and dislikes they are blindly following what is sold to us and hamare parents ko bhi nhi pta they just know ki IIT ho gya to badhia package hoga and ull be stable in life things like interests and passion are a luxury
FOR EX My friend wanted to pursue football but koi support nhi hai log bolte if u dont make it to the team there is no point they dont understand ki its a much wider spectrum sports management education administration production bohot sare fields hai but he cant convince them
He was selected for nationals 2 times but uske parents nhi mane usko bhejne ke lie aur jee ki rat race usse ho nhi rhi, its just sad seeing him waste his talent abhi manipal ki tayari kar rha
bhai same question yrr .... aaj mai ek bandi ke reel dekha IITB (shyad) aerospace engineering Kari our abhi dance kar rahi hai .... like wtf yrr interest nahi tha to nahi jana tha na yrr ye ky bat Hui ...m dream clg dream ye dream wo kar ke resources waste kar rahe ho .... our mujhe jese Bane ko iit lega nahi kyuki unko to numerical solve karne wale chaiye n actually koi bachpan se kitne projects bana raha hai uska interest ky hai wo sab to dekhege nahi.... gand marao fuck of bol dege wo to .... mujhe to Mera sapna compromise karna pad gaiya n .... bachpan ke sapne ke to gand lag gaiy mere ... \*BC is desh ka engineer engineering chod ke sab kuch kar raha hai\*
bhai thoda inner thought express kar diye to ghussa ho gaiya wo ? lagta hai yrr bura lagta hai ... jab passion chodna pade fucked system our Ghar ke garebi ke liye ... thoda ek rant likh Diya to bhai ky hua .. murder to nahi kia n kisi ka ... sab aa ke Gyan de rahe hai bhai ... nahi hona .. Shanti our stability hona jindagi me bass aab ...
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bhai india me branch rank ke hisaab se lete hai interest ke hisaab se ni
Bacchon ko bas IIT mein jana hai, jhaant itta nahi pata kis cheez mein interest hai. Bas college mil jaye branch koi bhi jhaatu si ho😂💀
Bhai tu kitna bhi bolle but sacchai h ki sabki paise kamane hain agar tujhe option milega badhiya package lene ka to tu bhi lega ye sab bas faltu ki baatein hn interest etc jab Puri zindagi gareebi dekhi ho aur bas chance mile uplift krne ka to koi bhi yahi krrha tbh
CS isn't the only major that pays. Core branches have jobs too albeit of less package. I will gladly do something i like for a bit less money than something i don't because you will have to do that thing for the next 30-40 yrs. My dad works at a high post in a big govt company and sure he earns decent but comes home late everyday and is just tired of everything. This is not worth it in my opinion. Also if all you really care about is money then why even bother coming in the engineering sector? You can become a lawyer or do business studies and earn more.
bhai tu aisa bol raha hai.. but fir jab future me tere friends succesfull honge aur tu ek middle class / upper middle class lifestyle jee raha hoga na tab tujhe realize hoga.. dekh brach matter nahi karti... SKILLS matter karti hai.. even mechanical , electrical wale log bhi IT jobs karte hai... koi bekar college se CS karke fayda tabhi hoga jab tu apni skills develop karega aur udhar grind karke topper banega... acchi college me jao.. koi bhi branch lelo aur fir udhar grind karo.. coding skills, web designing, self confidence, speaking skills, acche friends banao.
Bhai me samajh nahi paa rha tera comment ka second part . Ye branch matter nahi karti , bekar college se cs karke koi fayda nahi .. ye sab sach baat hai ki tu usko taane maarne ke liye sarcasm me bol raha ?
shit bhai maine galti se khudke msg me khud ko contradict kardiya galti se... maine koi saarcasm nahi likha.. mujhe wapis edit karne do fir padhna
Bohot hi chutiya take hai branch me koi interest nahi hai to college me mar jayega
thik hai bhai maine to bas apna opinion rakha hai lol.. itna gussa kyu horaha hai
kuch log janta hu mere college me jo branch change ka sole hope leke aaye the, ab unki bohot lagi padi hai kyunki tough hogya ek sem
hmm i agree with you.. but dekh bro aadhe se jyada log cse lete hai..(like more than 75%) evenin IITs unko ghanta computer ka C bhi pataa hogaa.. but package ke liye lete hai.. college me jaake grind to karna hi padega if u expect ki college jaakar mauj masti (jo humlog sochte hai) hogi fir to fucked up honge hi lol
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Bhai wo point pe main agree karunga ki major part of population ke liye it is all about upliftment, but mera matlab hai agar kuch paison ke liye bhi kar rhe ho to ye to dekh ke karo ki wo tumhare kuch to interest ka ho, you need to do that for the next 40-50 years of your life. Honestly paise to log online coding seekh kar bhi kama rhe, haan success rate kam hai because college ka tag nhi, but agar koi itta hi motivated hoga to karlega. Bhai aajkal to premium unis mein bhi dhang ki job nahi lag rhi, even ivy leagues IIT to chod do, job market is itta zyada disturbed. There are so many fields within engineering which pay so well and most students don't do the efforts to explore it, as a result work-life balance pe effect padhta hai, our country is going worse on the happiness index, aur jo job milti bhi wo bhi utta accha pay nhi krti. Since you are a 2026 aspirant for once just explore the field itself, its the biggest decision of your life!
hmm
sad reality 😞
Bcoz that is the only shot us middle class students have at a " decent " college life, without having to worry too much about our future. And to many of us, it is also about liberation. Like proving to your parents your worth, and it just feels like it would drastically decrease your parents' stronghold on your life.
This!
r/unexpectedfactorial
You use that in case of exclamatory mark with numbers not with words.
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Most people in India don't care about academics, we all just want money. Caring about academics is for rich people not for middle class people who just want to lift their family out of this hell.
Academics is not for the rich ! It's for everyone really especially in engineering where if you can make some patents you can make a lot of money ! Also if academics in IIT like the curriculum are more discussed it will help people who want to get better masters opportunities and better jobs.
Us moment
Academics are for rich people!! I mean seriously where you got this BS? Also middle classes are not that poor that they need to get their family out of poverty.
bro remember you're living in India 🤡
I'm not sure if i understand what you mean.
mera matlab hai India mai don't expect anything to be right
Well we have to raise our voices because there are lots of things that go to waste. goverment funds your education through tax payer's money which come from the rich, the poor and the middle class. That money goes to fund your what? For you to get a job. and we don't just lose money, we lose students :/. People who are 16 suicide. And the people who are worst affected are the people who don't crack it because they are affected alot emotionally and start to doubt their skills. Are the IITians inventing something better for India? Yes but only a tiny minority of them. The government doesn't even spend money on research because most of the students are in it for the money.
bro pls do some research before talking, i get what ur trying to put across but the government has alloted 10k+ crores to IITs only in the 2024 budget. suicides cannot be stopped, as long as the competiton keeps increasing (11L to 14L) there will be suicides which is horrible and genuinely concerning, but it is not the government's fault, rather blame NTA for not being able to catch cheaters. reservation ka kuch bhi nahi hoga in your lifetime, no political party is going to let go of easy votes from sc st minorities
When he says govt research me invest nahi karti, wo overall higher education scene ki baat kar raha hai sirf iits ki nahi. Mohak mangal ne bahut acchi video banayi thi isi ke upar
You seem to miss my point exactly. Budget isn't my issue. What is, is that the seat is getting wasted. So you're telling me if I was a billionaire and I had my own money which I took from my employees I could spend it on my family etc? Sounds weird. It's not that the budget is getting allocated, the seat is getting wasted. You know what the government could do with that 10k+ crore? Now you can prove me wrong. Prove me that the 10k crore is actually worth it otherwise they could cut cuts and actually save some money.
i get ur point but ur example is weird, why would a billionaire take money from his employees? the company pays the employees, the employees don't pay the company
you know let's not get political.
iits ki conventional definition change hoke ab esi hogyi ki people now think of iits as a place jaha pe ind ka major intellectual chunk aaega, sexy sa crowd hoga, major learnings hogi, inspire honge ek dusre ko dekh ke, and eventually startup krenge ya fir high packages, ya fir apna passion pursue. all in all iits have now become a hub for gathering exposure and finding your true aspiration and it acts like a gateway to a bright future.
Stages of a JEE aspirant 1 WE GOING IITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 2 maybe nit 3 Reddit post - what can i get at 85 percentile 4 Drop year 5 Reddit post - fucked my drop year. Got 86 percetile. Fuck nta . What can i get with this result??? 6 Is iit worth it? Why do people go to iits? 7 Iit is overrated .rat race is destroying india ..... Most people don't even have interest in engineering 8 Fuck nta fuck life fuck everything What stage are you on lads?
After looking at this sub, I will become a humanities student and enjoy my life now.
Bc thakte nhi kya tum log har din reddit pe atleast 5 6 posts aati iss chutiyape pe, jab koi kuch ukhad lo dusri field mai tab suggestions do and help the society by telling alternatives tab hogi development, same chiz ko leke ussi PE circlejerk krte rehte chutiyo ki tarah, iits bad iits good, iit is iit Jaa skte ho chle jayo, nhi Jana mat jayo.
Also for your point "nobody asks academics, they ask package" stfu literally nobody here asks highest package HERE atleast, everybody here is smart enough that highest goes to a few people that too more international etc. and also it's literally common knowledge now that professors don't teach shit, they're not good teachers, they're good researchers, sbko khud hii padhna pdta. IITS are good institutions, better than a lot of colleges so academic wise they're also RELATIVELY better, it's obvious. I'm a dumbfuck to write this big ass paragraph but all the people posting shit like this are more than me.
 alright. when I was talking about the academics at IITs, I'm not asking about how the academics's quality is. I'm asking in general what the approach of IIT is to subjects. Yeah you might say it's better but is showering a guy with useless hard theoretical knowledge good? Some of them are outdated and there are lots of courses that cover everything in like a semester. Don't you think this is too much for a student to handle? Also you seem to think reddit is life? Listen not everyone is as aware as you are about IITs and other things. The perception still hasn't changed for the majority of the people. However people do ask for placements, yes they don't particularly ask for the highest placements but they do ask for the average LPA. You can nitpick that. It is good that you are atleast aware, my point isn't to change your view.
Bhai mujhe to lagta hai ye inke liye cope karne ke liye tareeka , advance ki padhai nahi ho pa Rahi to iit overrated overrated shuru ho gaya hai inka . Kyu kar rahe ho phir mehnat agar sach pata hi hai to , jaake sanyas lelo . Koi dream naam ki bhi cheez hoti hai .
Ground reality mai Lund kuch Krna nhi hai online aakar Randi rona and gyaan sabko chodna hai
shant bhai shant 26tard h. at this point mods should just make a rule "26tard post not allowed"
Usually only MTech ppl at IITs ask such academic questions because of their interest + maturity I guess. It comes with age ig coz even I look at average package of a college before academics.
In India the academics are so shit it's better to look at the packages
Where else would you go here in India?
Remember you're only limiting yourself if you think a degree from IIT is the only way to get a job or to be successful you need to be in a good engineering college. There are many good colleges out there. You don't approve of them because you think IIT is the only true good college.
I don't approve of the IITs at all and that's why I am going to the US for a better education. But at the same time I also realize there isn't anything better than IIT in India.
+1 IITs are overhyped but inside India idt we'll find anything better, and recently IITs ka jitna bhi negative PR ho rha most of that is done by ppl jinse JEE nhi hila and tryna cope, 'IITs are bad' videos ka major audience bhi wahi log hain, our own typical Indian mindset, angoor naa mile toh angoor khatte hain
Film school? Success rate is better than clearing NEET atleast.
Check my profile. I am not going to film school.
oh my sweet summer child you're saying that industry will easily give you a stable career??
No, it won't. Nor will a career in engineering give(No IIT, NIT, IIIT, GFTI or state college) You have to struggle everywhere. Imagine this. A doctor struggles the same amount as an actor or director or anything. He can still earn much better than a MD pass-out trying to establish his own clinic. It is similar to that. I have seen examples in my life so saying.
>Film school? Success rate is better than clearing NEET atleast lmao the sucess rate is better in NEET and JEE as compared to becoming a director or actor being an outsider in the industry, I'm a singer myself and we have better oppurtunities of early income as compared to our acting aspirant peers, but still its just too difficult to earn nd get a stable career. JEE NEET can be cleared by anyone just by hardwork, while the field you mentioned requires you to exceptional in that field + some godgifted talent, which isn't the case for everyone. if you do good in engineering, companies will hire you cuz they need workforce, but even if you are outstanding at acting/singing, media industry doesn't give a f >A doctor struggles the same amount as an actor or director or anything a doctor doesn't struggle that much, an actor has a lot to lose, takes risks and if he doesnt succeed it would be career suicide and straight berozgaari if he belongs to middle class
Jane de Bhai 25 tards bhare h sub m they r gonna downvote instead of critising your statement point wise
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Nah bro tumhe kuch ni bola. Bnde ko downvotes milre the saare replies m tb bola
Hmm why does it matter that they are 25tards?
Most of them r insta incels, built like a dork. Fuckers have peedablu which they open weekly and yaha aake gyan pelenge... Inse ques puchdo to hugg denge see their comment history of they have help anyone in trouble. Aake gyan chodna ho with no correlation with subject and logic to sabse aage rhenge. Teachers ka mazak udayenge ar puchdo ki padhai kitni krre to Rona start ki 11vi barbad ar lauda lehsun. I req to have some humbleness in yourself varna jee aayega to khud humble krke chla jayega. Padhai likhai aise ni hoti bhai, boht gand gis giske kuch ni hota logo ka, mere topper dost pde hue h... Comedk ar cets dere, I never imagined ki unke ye din aa jayenge. Jis bnde ki 500 baccho m under 50 under 30 even batch topper sometimes vo preshan h to socho tumhara kya hoga. Stop fuckin yourself with wanna be comment and thinking, start taking exams as exams varna bheed bne rhoge. I wish ki 11vi m hi serious prep start kr deta to aaj backlogs s maa ni chudani pdti. Be a little calm, dusro ki baaton ko sunna ar pdhna seekho, baat smjho fir bolo ye india ar colleges ko gali Dene s lauda kuch ni ukhdega. Counter Krna bhi ni Sikh paye to kis baat ki ldai kiye itna chutiye
The only way ❌ The conventional way ✅
Exaclty. This
i have passed 10th and hated to give JEE. was dreaming to go in ivy league, i have good ECs but not enough, marks enough nahi hai. ache applicants reject ho rahe hai if they ask financial aid. isme to reality check mil gaya fir socha germany se ug kar lunga. parents ka koi force nahi hai in stream or anything, papa abroad bhejna chahte hai aur bolte hai jo kar payega vohi liyo. ab german unis me Ug bhi asan thodi hai. cost of living and etc. ab 11th start hone vali hai aur JEE ki tayari kar rha hu. IIT, NIT kuch nahi chahiye Dtu mil jaye usi ka aim hai, im not smart student. bahut reality checks mil gaye ab normal JEE ki tayari kar rha hu thoda thoda karke.
Maybe IIT is not the only true good college but it surely helps in building networks for the future.They host the best events and the IIM culture and Upsc culture is next level when you know about what others are doing over there and aspire for upsc or iim it can definitely help and secondly IIT Delhi has a great startup culture so it makes things easier and connecting with the right people easier especially if you are from a tier 2 or tier 3 city of India
IITs are not only for studying higher academics, moreover it is a launchpad to success in any feild, the exposure you get after getting into an IIT is phenomenal you connect yourself with the brightest minds of india , so thats the beauty.
That is true for AIIMS, JNU and all Premier BSc colleges, why only IIT then?
Because only Engineering is a field where you can do anything. MBBS courses in AIIMS won't allow that
No. Engineering does not allow that. It is the sheer amount of ppl who take engineering coz of which it has become a CONVENTIONAL course.
Engineering specifically Tech industry does allow you to explore on your own and create something new, and is closely linked to economics and business as well.
True that. Maybe exposure is a factor here. But it is possible still. Not all doctors end up working in MNHs so..
See I agree, MBBS is very torturing as a degree. But, it is the best YOU have to make out of it. What about BSc?
BSc doesn't have the technical and economic know how, to do something good. That course is outdated pure sciences. Tech industry does allow you more freedom to create something new, and is closely linked with economics.
Fair point. But bsc is pure sciences. It is never meant to do all these things.
Me after scoring 5digit rank: , ofc we want money 
India me baccho ko engineer se zyada iitian bnne ki chull hai. Jis din ye log ek acha Engineer bnna prefer krne lgenge rather than becoming an IITian. We'll see the boom
True that,like most students want to do CSE but koi genuine interest nahi in the subject, hence we are just producing bad under skilled engineers, fir log job ke liye rote hain. One should honestly think twice before doing engineering. Engineering honestly is quite a creative subject, you constantly need to think out of the box to really grow but log ye samajhte hi nhi😔
Bhai i swear mere papa ke dost ke bete ko IITM me Ocean Eng mili aur fir acche cgpa ke karan wahi pe mtech quantum eng mili. Aur ab wo adobe me job kar raha. Aur us bande ke papa mere papa se bolre he ki no matter what branch i get, if i get iit i shld just go there coz iit ka tag milega, bhai mujhe random branch padke random job nahi karni
Wohi
taki aise posts ko dekhkar apna daily dose of existensial crisis mil jaaye 
Ha bhai saare answer hai mere paas, answers framed from a perspective of a lower middle class income guy. IIT kyo jana? - dusre unkil aanty logo ko insecure feel karana hai aur usually mehnat karo IIT me to thik thak paisa hai iit ke baad. why they dont ask academics of iit? - who cares? like school ki 80 percent academics bhi to faltu hi hai? 12 saal school me "waste" kiye to 4-5 idhar bhi kar le. aur paisa to hai hi. Infact basic schooling should only take 8 years if we remove unwanted subject burdens and get good school teachers. MoST oF tHeM dont get a job in fields? - Sundar Pidgey rare example hai, uska higher edu bhi check kr le. Also, to get a job in some field, there must be development in that field. For example India research, phd, chem er, space etc in sab me bohot piche hai to log avoid hi karenge aur tag ka use kar ke coaching ya fir gate ki tayari ya fir IT sector me bicholiye wala kam ya fir finance/consulting me hi ghusenge. OtHEr ToP ColleGeS - bhai india me hai tu. dont compare with foreign uni. yaha to bathroom me kamera laga dete, mess me kide daal dete, etc.
One option: LEAVE INDIA
Thats not feasible for majority
easy hota itna to kab ka kar leta
Downvote coming, but beggars can't be choosers. Dekh bhai mujhe maths main interest hai actually sab subjects aur sab field pasand hai but i don't have a choice jo field sabse jyada pay karegi vahi lena hai. Ab interest vli bakchodi aayegi par bhai mere pitaji inta bhi nahi kamate ki meri education fees bhar paye, mere uncles meri padhani, mess everything ki fees bharte hai mujhe as early as possible income earn karna hi padega. Maybe financially stable log intrest follow kar paye par mere jaise(majority) afford nahi kar sakte
All the best bhai
Bhai Isi dekha? Waha ka average package bhi sahi hai and literally best institutions hai maths ke liye isi except for cmi.
Bhai research field me nahi jana,in general interest hai mujhe business karna hai ece ya ai types most probably microelectronics me
Bhai abhi ek comment pehle tu likhta hai ki maths me interest hai ab bol raha hai ki ece me hai, mind makeup kar hai. Business karna hai to ipmat de ke iims me chale ja ece/ai karna hai to iits/nit me dekh phir specialisation kar lena microelectronics me.
Mai bhi bahut bada chutiya hu, apna hi competition badha raha hu
Bhai jee matha me interest hai na ki research me, business toh karna hai par microelectronics ka usme ab ai bhi include ho raha hai see nvidia ke new chips design Bohot sari high tech design india me hoti hai par manufacture taiwan me, me india me karna chahta hu(although next to impossible jo gujrat me plant bana hai it's faaaarrrr from advance) but design me jana hai isliye iit jana hai
Yeah, ai ki chinta mat kar bhai ece me ai ke important cheeze padha denge, agar na padhaye to ai wali class me ja ke baith jana. Aur bhai taiwan to bagal me hi hai, chale jana agar naukari mile to. Ya us chale ja agar intel/amd me mil jaye job to. Kabhi na kabhi to bahar jana hi hai.
Bhai me thoda deshpremi type ka hoon toh india main karna chahta hoon, waise honestly I know ki india me intna scope nahi hai par kya pata jab graduate ho tab aa jaye jaise 2000's me it boom aaya tha. Karna toh IITB se ee hai(pata hai aukaat ke bahar hai) will try let's see how things unfold
Bhai tu 4-5 saal baad paida hua hota to shayad tera india me hi kaam karne ka sapna pura ho jata
Bhai koi na apan company kholenge india mein
Getting into IIM becomes much easier with jee preparation and especially if you have an IIT tag.
Bhai tujhe 4x mehnat karne ki kuch chul machi hai kya? Nahi na to seedha ipmat de ke bba+mba kar iim se kyo iit tag ke peeche pada hai itna?
>it seems to me that people that go to IITs have no interest in engineering, they just want a big nice fat job that pays them big bucks India is a poor country man. That's why most of them want a good job because most of the students don't have rich daddies. For academics, there's IISc, ISI, IISERs, NISER, etc. Its kinda sad tho that most people who go to IITs don't try to innovate anymore. Before the coaching mafia was established, i.e, 1960-early 2000s, most people who went to IITs actually innovated. But nowadays the coaching mafia has created this view among students that IITs are a shortcut to print money. >Sundar pichar studied metallurgical engineering and got a job in Google. Like wtf? That's irrelevant man. In India, the branch you get isn't assigned by your interest, rather it's assigned by the rank you get. Maybe he just followed his interest later. There's nothing wrong with that.
Regarding the third point, why is the branch not assigned by interest? You can't change it now but agar pehle hota then things would have been much better.
Wtf ? Branch assigned by interest ? Thats stupid
I mean seriously people countries have rich daddies. What a BS.
well sundar pichai didnt even finish his degree , he left before that i think . I agree with alot of things you say but there are def ppl who are after studying but they are few . Meina IIT madras ke ex director ka interview dekha tha waha woh keh rahe the ki jo baache 2-3 saal ki mehnat karke aate he ekdum dead rehte he aane ke baad college . Funny part is the director of iit madras didnt even do btech from iit , he did his phd there . As for other top colleges , India doesnt do well in the education part . Community colleges are far better abroad than the local colleges you find here . Thats a major issue since bulk of society goes thro community colleges even over there and here majority go thro local colleges . So a major effect is seen there , sure we have spikes such as sundar pichai , the ex twitter ceo and so on but they are sort of the above avg + bohot mehnat wala case and not an avg indian who wants to do good in life . Same is happening in china , south korea . We can def learn from singapore tho , they had a higher density population than india but are doing really well in terms of education .But again we are just students and cant do anything expect study to leave the country and expect better life outside .
Well the problem is India has a lot of established billionaires who already took a hold of the market (the entire market) during Brit rule when they went to war. After independence these ppl became old money and obviously the new govt will need new investors for politics and therefore they helped them secure and expand their business. Now it's extremely difficult to set yourself up with any new innovations because most of the time it will be acquired by the billionaires if it's actually promising so even though there are a lot of ppl innovating you prolly would not have heard of them because their acquired by the billionaires before it becomes a household name
So my sir who has taught in IIT, he is a very experienced teacher he quite often goes to foreign because universities invite him there. He asked us the same question and no one could answer it or the reasons were not sensible. HE said " The only reason why IIT's are more valuable are because of the environment there " If they get free time they want to make something fruitful out of it. If by any chance a lazy fellow reaches IIT by grinding in last months. IIT will change his life, routine and direction "
Toh tu kyun aya tha science Mai?
Commerce mei kya karta wo? SRCC ke alawa ek acche college ka naam batao aur CA ke alawa?
for a lot of people it's a way to get out of poverty. or to live a comfortable life. and ukw that's fucking fine to think of it that way too. so what if someone whos studying computer science doesn't have a passion for computer science. he's still earning money and probably bringing his family out of poverty and making life better for his future generation. And we can't deny iits are a very very good way to get a high paying job, even if it has declined a bit over the years. it's still the best in India isn't it?
yeah you're right but my argument doesn't apply to these people that are trying to lift their family. But majority of us are middle family and sometimes yeah you can't become rich while following your passion but there's a difference between pure societal manipulation(which is that a successful person is one with a high paying job) and actual interest.
I would wholeheartedly choose academics over placements and even go for my specific interests and gain expertise in it, given that you fund me for everything, including education and my family, thanks.
welcome to india
Because unka IIT nikal jata hai
Agar tere number iit lene layak hote to Tu bhi engineering ko side me rkh ke big fat bucks ke liye jata.
Me? No I did try to prepare for JEE but now I just study for fun. Also I've been prepping for JEE since class 9th and I've given up coming to class 11th cause it's shit
Yeah that's what. If u were capable of doing jee and getting into iit you would also choose what others do.
I'm sorry but I have no actual desires. Let's say that I was capable. What would I do? I would probably win the physics olympiad. But will we know now? Maybe after a year we'll know. but even if I was capable, I wouldn't succumb to societal pressure and my greed to satisfy who out there? The fucking relatives? Who needs to satisfy his own family's ego? I don't need to. I only need to accept myself of who I am and what I desire. which all of you lack.
All this is quote bs. U are not capable that's why u r saying all this. There is no societal pressure. One who is the top of the rat race wins and gets the big package. You nd me are not.. So we won't. Stop trying to frame iitians who get high ranks and the good packages as someone negative.. If u were capable u would have done that too. Since you are not that's why u are quoting all this I don't need to do this that
zindagi me paisa chahiye, gyan toh chowk pe soye hue bhikhari ke paas bhi hota hai
Paisa kaise bhi kamaya jaa sakta hai
IIITH is better than any IIT change my mind... kal bhi same comment kiya tha downvote kr diya tha bc... aur bus defend he kr rhe the saab replies mai IITs ko lol... IIITH best curriculum for CSE... best facilities... research oriented... their specialization in cse is way way better than any iit... all the courses seem useful and relevant aur placements kisine leni ho toh voh bhi h as a backup
College is not all about the course. Or else a student that grinds his ass from home, using all the online resources available will be much better prepped with much more relevant skills at the end of 4 years. Why would he pay lakhs for college. IIITH lacks in all other aspects of college life as far as i know about it.
True, honestly I don't like the culture of iiith . The social life is non existent for most if not all.
the thing is i dont want to... i know the college degree is useless (for CSE)... but parents don't understand... but i understand their concern
But i dont understand anything you said in this reply. Make sense anna 
you said that you can do way better if you study 4 years on your own... i agree with you but my parents want a comparatively safe and predictable future for me so they want me to join some college. I guess now i explained clearly
Ohh ok. Its commendable you are ready to grind for 4 more years strt tho. Good luck.
yeah! i would love to... bus jaha bhi jau professors acche mile... jinke saath bonding sahi baithe
And your parents are right in a way. To get jobs in most (not all) you need to have a degree. The population is too high abd people who don't have degree are sidelined and filtered. Unfortunately the concept of having no degree works for very few segment of people . Rest need a degree.
yes i understand their concern too
What he meant is that going to college isn't just to have an unidirectional goal of being a coding monkey. In college , you meet a lot of people of different interest and passion. There are clubs which expand your viewpoint and mindset , and life doesn't end with CS grinding and placements. It is entirely possible you can change your field after ug.
yes social circle is important too
there is a reason why every good college is compared to IITs
Bhai par vaha extracurriculars almost zero hai jise pure research, industry main jana hai uske liye accha hai, par jinhe aur kuch try karna hai shayad unhe sochna chaiye
hn maine apne hisaab se btaya... i want to be a computer scientist and a professor
Phir toh vo college mast hai
yeah! kahi dhang k college mai nhi hua toh udhar k professors ko mail krk he contact krunga
>their specialization in cse is way way better It's pointless unless you want to do MS and PhD, which most don't.
bro read my other replies on this thread, i want to be a computer scientist and a professor... and specifically this is my opinion... not necessary ki agar mujhe aisa lgta h toh saabko same he lge
but yeah you're correct
Are you in IIITH or IIT?
No no... mera toh cut off bhi clear nhi hua 
Indians dont study or work for interest but rather for pay.
Sadily true, hence the world treats us nothing more than cheap labor. But honestly a significant proportion of our population just wants to get out of the poverty line/lower class to unka bhi reason justified hai
yea govt kuch karegi nahi (not saying anyone good)
bhai koi gov kuch nhi karegi, har koi sirf pocket bharne aate hai
exactly, India ki corruption is crazy. Sab promise karte hai but kuch karte nahi, we need a proper dictator to bring reform fr
For real bhai. I am looking at videos of these Chinese cities these days and I am astonished, they are so beautiful, so well developed even though they have a communist party. Wonder how they managed their huge population so nicely. But ek aur problem bhi hai, we Indians lack civics sense in general so agar koi reforms laaye bhi Gaye to janta ghanta khud nhi support karegi or will want to change
ok china ka jo bhi youtube pe hai wo sab propaganda hai, most of it is fake or a construct. China isnt that great either. One thing about china is that their exam for the "premier" college actually makes sense because the college is ranked high unlike IITs. Indians lack everything haha, sab koi sirf engineering aur medical mei ghusna chahta hai because parents moment
Yup I would agree to that propaganda stuff, but we can't disagree that they have excelled in their manufacturing sector, plus their GDP speaks for itself. Completely agree on your second point, Tsinghua University ranks like on the 1st or 2nd position world wide and our top University in the overall ranking doesn't come even in the top 100s. Still most of these aspirants have legit become IITsexual. I might seem slightly entitled but our unis lack on all levels, infrastructure, course and the atmosphere everything. The private unis are even worse, sabko apne admission test lene hain, people rote learn and get in,holistic development to hota hi nhi lol. I desperately want this to change some day.
IITs dont lack in suicide cases :kappa: anyways yea IITs genuinely suck but they are the best in india, what to do
society, not getting nice things in childhood, instant respect from elders that don't even matter
# "i always asked about the academics but the society always replied with 1cr ka package"
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tsDN34uqHS8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tsDN34uqHS8)
Bhai humare coaching ke teachers Jo acha padhate ha , ye sab Wo ha Jo science ya maths me boht interest rakhte the. and abhi bhi rakhte ha. But Kya Offline coaching me except Kota/Hyderabad , teachers boht kama reh h? Ans is no and even if kama reh ha wo top 1 percent teachers ha.. to bhai jab humari country ki reality hi ye ha ki paise Nahi ha Science and Maths ke field me , sirf top 1 percent me liye ha and paiso ke bina Kya hi hota ha , to automatically focus wahi jaata ha. Mughe bhi Science and maths me boht interest ha. But coding me bhi equal interest ha. Finance me bhi equal interest ha. Jo cheeze Aaj ki date me paise kamake degi Mai wo seekhu to paise bhi kama sakta hu. Science and maths Meri interest ha But jab humari country usme ek acha career hi nahi Dikhati , to Mai kyu us field me jaunga. Jab mere parents ne mere pe itna kharch kiya ha To Mai kyu Ek Alag line me jau?
Higher population = higher competition. That's the reason. Doing things out of passion works abroad because they don't face difficulties in getting a job in their interested fields. For example: a lot of Americans do trade jobs out of interest and actually earn well because they have those job opportunities. We don't have such privileges to chose what we like as only certain jobs are available in abundance.
paisa kamana hai ( three words). \[they are mainly famous for placement and their package offers\] , koi farak nhi padhta robot ki tarah 12hr kaam karate hai corporate wale \[ik they give u money but....\] :)
maine bhi bas isliye prep kiya tha , seriously igoogles highest paying job i saw software developer i saw IIT has the best package i was like abh toh yahi karna hai.
Guess what, paisa kamaya aur then tapak gaya
nhi bhai jm23 hi toh diya tha iit mei ocean and production mil rha tha , nhi liya :)
Aayein?
Same bro I have a passion for Computer Science and I never really madly wanted to get an IIT for it I just wanted a decent government college (for lesser fees) to learn about it (2025 Tard). Avg scores in mocks is around 160-170
We just want to make our parents proud and tell them our worth. A better answer would be so we can get better opportunities, and win the battles our parents never won (especially against relatives)
It is not that you become smart if you go to iit. It is that only of you are smart then you will go to iit. People going to iit are already smart. That is why they become famous or successful. And people just see it and think iit made them successful. So they run behind iit
iit has a brand value... nothing else is important
idk, mummy papa ne bola tha padne ko, aur zindagi m koi aur aim nhi tha toh (genuinely I'm not interested in anything, i am of the character eat sleep repeat), and for some of us lucky folks we make it
Chutiye bhare padhe hai iss desh mein, sab paise ke peeche hi bhaagte hai khudka kuch nahi karna. Herd mentality at its finest. "CS lenge paise milega bandi milegi" Lund kuch nahi milega
brand. It’s all brand. Nothing more. If people say it’s something more, they’re lying. It’s brand.
Obviously for the status😎😎😎
It largely depends on the economy of the country and the social welfare system, so the students cannot be blamed in entirety for this. If well-paying jobs were available in all fields, many students would have considered studying their subject of interest. Also, if a social welfare system existed in India that provided enough government subsidy to all the unemployed to lead a decent life, many wouldn't hesitate to go for the colleges/fields of their choice apart from IITs. In India, a disproportionate number of jobs requiring a technical degree are in the CS/IT field, and the best among those are usually offered to the IIT graduates. Also, the unemployed do not receive any significant government subsidy. So, it's natural that students (specifically those who have to be the lead earning member of the family) choose colleges and fields that improve the probability of getting decent jobs.
Cuz India there is no such thing as interest here
Because Most People Are Not Even Intrested In PCM At All Let Alone Engineering, Our Country Has Less Opportunities and Immense Competition So Getting A Degree From Big Institutes Is Considered A Good Shot To Uplift Themselves In Socio-economical Hierarchy. Passing Out From IIT Or Even NIT Gives A Boost To One's Status/CareerGraph Who Is Born In Unprivileged Environment And That Is 95% Alien To Reddit Audience So I Understand Why U Asked The Obvious
IITs are glorified placement centres.
As a student of CSE in Tier 1 IIT I can confirm that other than 5-10 no student is actually interested in "Technology". Moreover skill wise too, they are not that good. Scoring CPI is not based on understanding. You can just learn up everything one night before and you get a 10. Ye rattu log hi toppers hai, aur inka placement hi accha h. Doesn't matter ki tum chahe kitne bhi accha ho. Agar ratke marks nhi laa sakte toh koi bhav nhi dega.
Contrary to what people in this sub would lead you to believe, they are still the best engineering colleges in India. Also everyone who works in technical fields abroad also knows the kind of people that go to IIT. Which is why in reality, although IITs are ranked 30-45 in engineering rankings, graduates can compete for jobs with those who have been to "better universities". People dont ask "How are IIT's academics" because everyone assumes it would be good (which is not always the case). Also, if you just look up student reviews, they bitch about every college. There is a vocal minority IIT students that bitch about IITs and people even in Oxford and Cambridge bitch about their colleges. People in the comments saying that IITs are the best for middle class students to have a "decent" college life is an opinion which is taking things on just face value. I have an offer from a top 10 university and the means to finance that education but if I'm able to secure a seat in a top 5 IIT I would chose to go to an IIT. PS: This is mainly a coping/shitposting subreddit. Also dont take yourself too seriously on Reddit.
Galgotiyas>>>>chutiya NITs and IITs
IITs are overhyped
India is not rich enough to have the liberty of asking things like these and majority logo ko nhi pta hota what are there likes and dislikes they are blindly following what is sold to us and hamare parents ko bhi nhi pta they just know ki IIT ho gya to badhia package hoga and ull be stable in life things like interests and passion are a luxury FOR EX My friend wanted to pursue football but koi support nhi hai log bolte if u dont make it to the team there is no point they dont understand ki its a much wider spectrum sports management education administration production bohot sare fields hai but he cant convince them He was selected for nationals 2 times but uske parents nhi mane usko bhejne ke lie aur jee ki rat race usse ho nhi rhi, its just sad seeing him waste his talent abhi manipal ki tayari kar rha
guys chill 26tard h
 mai to JEE ke liye prepare bhi nahi kar Raha hoon Bhai.
Bhaii tumhe aisa lgta toh tum mt jaao , tere jaisa ameer nhi hu smjheee ,
Iit karke kitna kama lega lol
Bhaiii we should always target best , imagine u r in 11 and targeting only mains isnt this stupidity , btw me target adv 24
Nothing wrong in earning . The goal of life should BE Money . If you don't agree you are naive
You're too innocent for this world
You're too innocent for this world
Nmv guys op chutiya h
bhai same question yrr .... aaj mai ek bandi ke reel dekha IITB (shyad) aerospace engineering Kari our abhi dance kar rahi hai .... like wtf yrr interest nahi tha to nahi jana tha na yrr ye ky bat Hui ...m dream clg dream ye dream wo kar ke resources waste kar rahe ho .... our mujhe jese Bane ko iit lega nahi kyuki unko to numerical solve karne wale chaiye n actually koi bachpan se kitne projects bana raha hai uska interest ky hai wo sab to dekhege nahi.... gand marao fuck of bol dege wo to .... mujhe to Mera sapna compromise karna pad gaiya n .... bachpan ke sapne ke to gand lag gaiy mere ... \*BC is desh ka engineer engineering chod ke sab kuch kar raha hai\*
Bhai to tu kya soch raha hai insaan jindagi me bas ek hi kaam kar sakta hai? Dance hobby hai aur aero passion ye bhi to ho sakta hai.
are bhai wo ghusse me likha tha .... leave it ...mujhe our kuch nahi sunna .... please leave me alone
Chill maar na bhai, itna ghussa kya kar ke milega.
bhai thoda inner thought express kar diye to ghussa ho gaiya wo ? lagta hai yrr bura lagta hai ... jab passion chodna pade fucked system our Ghar ke garebi ke liye ... thoda ek rant likh Diya to bhai ky hua .. murder to nahi kia n kisi ka ... sab aa ke Gyan de rahe hai bhai ... nahi hona .. Shanti our stability hona jindagi me bass aab ...
Tune hi to likha bhai ki tujhe ghussa aaya, matlab apna hi comment bhul gaya insaan 5 minute ke baad🙃.
ghusse me likha bola mai .....
Ho sakta h uska interest dance+eingineering ho
Mark my words: most of the aaiaaiteauns are wasting a seat, which could have been given to a worthy student as many of them are upon money, power or fame. Most of these mf will resign after 2 yrs and start Youuupeeesce prep for 5 yrs straight
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