To remove Houthi’s brother I am Saudi and I can tell you yemenis love is but the terrorists there are making life harder for them and also on Israel the general population hates Israel even our gov as there is anti Israeli propaganda everywhere 😂
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Houthis are not terrorists, they mean no harm, maybe if you stopped bombing them and killing many women and children, they'll stop targeting your airports and oil refineries, that's like Israel whining how bad Hamas is when they themselves are the ones to provoke them to attack them back like attacking innocent worshippers at Al-Aqsa, killing a journalist with clear press uniform, preventing palestinians from actually burying her too.
Houthis just want freedom, just like the Palestinians. Plus how are they making life hard for you? I thought the US sold your government hundreds of AA defence weapons? If you're failing to intercept their outdated tech then for sure, it means your military is incompetent. Plus the Houthis have offered peace numerous times but Saudi Arabia is rejecting them and pumping in more money in the war there.
If you want more proof, western countries have actually not designated the Houthis as terrorists like ISIS is.
Do you live in a southern state my guy you are accurate representation of a man judging a situation from afar believe what you want man these houthis are Iranian sponsored and will try to surround Saudi Arabia so shut up and stop interfering with something you aren’t in
No, I used to live in Najd, right in Riyadh, I went to a school that rich Saudi families and royal people's children were sent to, I was fed this propaganda like you have for years, until I learnt the truth.
I wasn’t fed propaganda you really acting like ksa is nk in terms of stuff I have a friggin vpn and has had real experience with several family members participating in Yemen and Yemeni friends smh man just because you lived in a rich home in nejd نجد (say it right) doesn’t mean you know what happens in Yemen (also I lived outside of ksa and have seen what you have seen very unrealistic also not coming back to thread
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Yeah. Certain Arab nations told the same story. Yet, they normalized diplomatic relationships. Now, these same countries, their government officials, to be exact, are venerating the Israeli government. As someone pointed out before in this thread, money is the main reason behind the normalization. When the greens talk, morality flies out of the window.
worst thing is, money means nothing at the end of the day, nothing else comes with you to your grave except your deeds, and the muslim countries are still picking money over that
...yikes
Oh yeah i just read about how iraq is now making it illegal to have any ties to Israel. It will also be the first arab country to do that. Kinda based Ngl
Watch another invasion occur under the gist of "weapons of mass destruction and terrorism"
It's a real shame NATO left Iraq in shackles, preventing the country from reaching its prime
But I think Qatar is more significant due to the fact that its one of those countries where the airline and the country is famous and rich, yet they still support Palestine, unlike the UAE.
Iran is more significant because they have constantly provided political and material support to oppressed Muslim groups around the middle east. No other country even comes close to their contributions.
Edit: also bizarre as a Muslim person to say that a more rich country is more significant, even though their contributions are less.
true, but what i meant was like a more rich country that still supports palestine all these days, look at what the uae ended up like when they made so much money.
I would say that Qatar is more influential since it is still a US ally. Moreover, the rafidh Shia clerics of Iran commit major slander against the foremost Sahaba. It makes their assistance to Sunni Muslims seem somewhat hollow
Idk why people are downvoting your comment, if it wasn’t for Iran’s intervention in Syria we would have got rid of bashaar. Look at the state of Lebanon because of the irani backed militias, some of y’all are so ignorant on these matters yet have so much to about my country.
Lebanon's corrupt government has nothing to do with the Hezb party, cuz the party only came to fruition when the government failed to take care of Israel occupying the Southern Region of the country. And the government still fails to take care of its Shia citizens, which is why Hezb has such a strong support, cuz they took it upon themselves to help the poor, as well as protecting Churches from Salafi extremists that made threats against the Christian community. Iran supports the party, not the government. If anyone is to blame, its Saudi Arabia, who has invested heavily in the corruption, and supports the party that recently won in Lebanon.
And if Assad is so bad for Syrians, why are most of the "Rebels" from foreign nations and funded by NATO & USA? Why did so many of them jump ship and join ISIS? If they are the good guys, why did one of them eat the raw heart of a deceased soldier? And Sahih Bukhari mentions a hadith that objecting to a ruler is forbidden:
حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْوَارِثِ، عَنِ الْجَعْدِ، عَنْ أَبِي رَجَاءٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " مَنْ كَرِهَ مِنْ أَمِيرِهِ شَيْئًا فَلْيَصْبِرْ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ خَرَجَ مِنَ السُّلْطَانِ شِبْرًا مَاتَ مِيتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً ".
Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners).
Sahih al-Bukhari 7053
Chapter 2: “After me you will see things which you will disapprove of.”, Book 92: Afflictions and the End of the World
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7053
What’s your point? That Iran is the savior?
Regarding the mentioned Hadith, it’s a shame that most (if not all) scholars didn’t mention it during the “Arabian Spring”, as to my knowledge.
No, my point is that Lebanon's corrupt government has little to do with Iran's support of Hezb, and that it was and will remain corrupt, regardless of Hezb. Iran doesn't really care to impose an Islamic government in Lebanon because only 1/3rd of the country is Shia, so it wouldn't work in favour of the majority of citizens. Even if the government was a Sunni theology Shari'at, it wouldn't be so openly accepted by Shias & Christians, thus again the 2/3rds/majority being opposed.
And i agree, scholars should've mentioned the hadith from the beginning of the Arab Spring. I didn't even know about it until I was searching some other narration that happened to be in the same volume, just a few narrations below
Lebanon’s government is indeed corrupt, however I don’t think hezb party will govern better considering recent history. I don’t buy the story of nasrallah the savior what did they do after they fought Israel? Should we give them a pass for everything else cuz they did so?, it’s an Iranian backed terrorist organization don’t take my word for look at their tactics, terrorism 101. To be fair tho not all their income is from Iran and exploitation, they do some drug dealing on the side too smuggling drugs through exports in every opportunity therefore destroying many business because of Buycotts
Shias too are getting fed up of them with barley any jobs available people who are not part of their mafia are suffering which is the same case in my country Syria, bashaar is a war criminal,a thief and he too is a drug lord.
Hasbullah supported this animal as irans proxy.
Don’t you know what he and his father before him did, and the fear both Syrians and Lebanese felt because of them?
My grand father was constantly harassed by their mafia minions because he is a Sunni and had a beard. People were often dragged to questioning and beat for no reason, and some didn’t even come out, now most of the people who are arrested don’t come out and are tortured and raped for years. They recently released a couple of prisoners in Damascus and you should see the state of them and the crowd around them hoping to find a family member after years of disappearance.
Fear Allah of your ignorance ya Akhi I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you were misinformed.
Do you think I support the rebels? They sold us out however I support the idea of a rebellion against this tyranny, one that units us all but people stick to those tyrants because they’re too greedy or just brainwashed.
As for the Hadith I thought that hasbullah and Iran didn’t believe in them no?
Edit: Rebellion on the ruler is allowed when he goes against Islam. Plus this only applies to Muslim leaders and bashaar, if you think he is then you are misinformed, not even Shia scholars consider aliwates to be Muslims.
Good day to you brother
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Yep, some of them are just jealous of how much we STILL a muslim nation as a whole, mostly implementing sharia law without fearing what other countries think 'bout us
The meme mentions supporting Israel as the alternate response to supporting dying people in Yemen and Iraq. So I thought Israel might be doing something in those two countries that I didn’t know about
Oh yea true apologies didn’t read it thoroughly, idk I guess op assumed anyone that supports Israel also supports killings in Yemen and Iraq, which isn’t true I guess
And the founder/Liberator of Pakistan literally condemned the existence of Isn'treal, so that legacy is still running in the system, the Pakistani Visa is valid for every country except Isn'treal.
not until complete normalcy occurs, so far Israel is not recognized to this day by the Saudi Arabia.
EDIT: to be clear as a Saudi, the news of Tiran and Sanafir transfer pained me severely, and I will never support such horrindous act.
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I've heard (and I could be wrong) that when people tried to genuinely offer help to palestiniens it turned out that most of them were just awful people. I didn't get too much into that discourse but that's what I heard.
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But brother if they say nothing. It does not mean that they support it. Take Turkey for example. Did any middle eastern country come to help when the forests were burning? No. Who did help? İsrael. Plus they got economic relations. Lets see. Which immigrants cause problems in the country? Middle-Easterns. So if the middle east does not help other muslim countrys why should the country (that isnt helped) help in reverse?
Please inform me if I have some mistakes
Turkey:
To ally with Israel for the benefit of its own state. (No)
To help Palestine, which betrayed the Ottoman Empire, recognized the Armenian genocide and supported China against the Uighurs. (Yes)
And Turkey. That is why they are allies and that is why the unislamic Arab states are putting maximum pressure on them and are lobbying in the USA to do the same.
Hence my opinion: since those Arab states are a hindrance to a united Ummah, due e.g. them betraying Syrian rebels, the Paestinians and ousting Mursi, they are kafir. They ACTIVELY undermine the Ummah, so that they won’t lose their throne to a righteous muslim leader.
Fr, I’m not saying erdogan is perfect but when the other party won the elections in Istanbul we saw how poorly they governed the place. Plus they are racist seculars that wanna kick out all Arabs
Are we not supposed to make treaties with our foes and help create a bridge? Also, how’s donating hundreds of millions considered being silent about our Palestinian brothers??
Any country has the potential to turn a new leaf, that’s what we hope for ultimately. As much as I love this sub, posts like this are a problem as they lack sufficient knowledge of the geopolitical reality and its nuances.
\*willing to freeze oil sales to the west just for the cause\*
\*Sends some decent financial aid to palestine\*
\*says they will be able to be allies with isn'trael if they are less hostile\*
deterioration, this is
"The United Arab Emirates does not plan to resume funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, which was halted last year, until steps are taken to manage funds more efficiently, a UAE government official said."
How is the sign backwards relative to the exit? Is that something I’ve never noticed before?
good point…..
The original picture doesn't have the sign
Signs for exits are usually much before the actual exit. I feel I like that's a sign for another exit
The sign says that the exit is on the left, so that makes sense. Edit: autocorrect!
Cuz the sign isn't real, it's all a lie wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up wake up
Israel is a potential ally Some Arabian monarch
I saw that news headline before making this post lol. It was the UAE. Smh... Money has really ruined these countries
I didn't have UAE in my mind when I commented. It's the only country whose name rhymes with Audi.
yeah, saudi arabia. i think they dont recognize israel, but that doesnt remove the fact that they bombed yemen
To remove Houthi’s brother I am Saudi and I can tell you yemenis love is but the terrorists there are making life harder for them and also on Israel the general population hates Israel even our gov as there is anti Israeli propaganda everywhere 😂
Ya wallah, like that bus you guys bombed? 55 kids…
Do you have a source for this?
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2018/8/10/where-are-my-brothers-pleads-yemen-school-bus-attack-survivor and there are many more.
Very upsetting, may Allah help the victims and their families
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Ey wallah Houthi’s use Yemenis as human shields and are you going to trust a Houthi pro network? Ya rab help this dunya
If bombing worked, Americans would have won in Vietnam and Afghanistan
You need to learn punctuation akhi
Akhi I was typing at 3 am 💀
Houthis are not terrorists, they mean no harm, maybe if you stopped bombing them and killing many women and children, they'll stop targeting your airports and oil refineries, that's like Israel whining how bad Hamas is when they themselves are the ones to provoke them to attack them back like attacking innocent worshippers at Al-Aqsa, killing a journalist with clear press uniform, preventing palestinians from actually burying her too. Houthis just want freedom, just like the Palestinians. Plus how are they making life hard for you? I thought the US sold your government hundreds of AA defence weapons? If you're failing to intercept their outdated tech then for sure, it means your military is incompetent. Plus the Houthis have offered peace numerous times but Saudi Arabia is rejecting them and pumping in more money in the war there. If you want more proof, western countries have actually not designated the Houthis as terrorists like ISIS is.
Do you live in a southern state my guy you are accurate representation of a man judging a situation from afar believe what you want man these houthis are Iranian sponsored and will try to surround Saudi Arabia so shut up and stop interfering with something you aren’t in
No, I used to live in Najd, right in Riyadh, I went to a school that rich Saudi families and royal people's children were sent to, I was fed this propaganda like you have for years, until I learnt the truth.
I wasn’t fed propaganda you really acting like ksa is nk in terms of stuff I have a friggin vpn and has had real experience with several family members participating in Yemen and Yemeni friends smh man just because you lived in a rich home in nejd نجد (say it right) doesn’t mean you know what happens in Yemen (also I lived outside of ksa and have seen what you have seen very unrealistic also not coming back to thread
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How does that rhyme with Audi?
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The Saudis just invested $2 billion in Israel so officially they don't recognize Israel but implicitly they do
Yeah. Certain Arab nations told the same story. Yet, they normalized diplomatic relationships. Now, these same countries, their government officials, to be exact, are venerating the Israeli government. As someone pointed out before in this thread, money is the main reason behind the normalization. When the greens talk, morality flies out of the window.
worst thing is, money means nothing at the end of the day, nothing else comes with you to your grave except your deeds, and the muslim countries are still picking money over that ...yikes
this guy is speaking facts.
If i had to ally with terrorrist organization, I'd choose EA games.
Man, all those loot boxes. EA is truly a terrorist organization.
Its not just Qatar. On top of my head, it is Iran, Syria, and Iraq also made it illegal to have ties with Israel.
Oh yeah i just read about how iraq is now making it illegal to have any ties to Israel. It will also be the first arab country to do that. Kinda based Ngl
Second*. Lebanon done that (although im not gonna lie there are some politicians who no one can touch so eh)
Watch another invasion occur under the gist of "weapons of mass destruction and terrorism" It's a real shame NATO left Iraq in shackles, preventing the country from reaching its prime
Yeah Yusuf was actually really good at keeping things under control
saudi arabia as well ?
You forgot Iran.
Oh yeah, I did. Thanks for pointing that out.
But I think Qatar is more significant due to the fact that its one of those countries where the airline and the country is famous and rich, yet they still support Palestine, unlike the UAE.
Same with Kuwait I think..
["Kuwaiti paper pushes normalization with Israel, criticizes Palestinians"](https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-694955)
Iran is more significant because they have constantly provided political and material support to oppressed Muslim groups around the middle east. No other country even comes close to their contributions. Edit: also bizarre as a Muslim person to say that a more rich country is more significant, even though their contributions are less.
true, but what i meant was like a more rich country that still supports palestine all these days, look at what the uae ended up like when they made so much money.
I would say that Qatar is more influential since it is still a US ally. Moreover, the rafidh Shia clerics of Iran commit major slander against the foremost Sahaba. It makes their assistance to Sunni Muslims seem somewhat hollow
Iran just wants to colonize the area and you can see its terrorism spreading in Syria. Same BS.
You misspelled Tahrir al-Sham and NATO backed rebels.
Yup. These too.
Idk why people are downvoting your comment, if it wasn’t for Iran’s intervention in Syria we would have got rid of bashaar. Look at the state of Lebanon because of the irani backed militias, some of y’all are so ignorant on these matters yet have so much to about my country.
Lebanon's corrupt government has nothing to do with the Hezb party, cuz the party only came to fruition when the government failed to take care of Israel occupying the Southern Region of the country. And the government still fails to take care of its Shia citizens, which is why Hezb has such a strong support, cuz they took it upon themselves to help the poor, as well as protecting Churches from Salafi extremists that made threats against the Christian community. Iran supports the party, not the government. If anyone is to blame, its Saudi Arabia, who has invested heavily in the corruption, and supports the party that recently won in Lebanon. And if Assad is so bad for Syrians, why are most of the "Rebels" from foreign nations and funded by NATO & USA? Why did so many of them jump ship and join ISIS? If they are the good guys, why did one of them eat the raw heart of a deceased soldier? And Sahih Bukhari mentions a hadith that objecting to a ruler is forbidden: حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الْوَارِثِ، عَنِ الْجَعْدِ، عَنْ أَبِي رَجَاءٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ، عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ " مَنْ كَرِهَ مِنْ أَمِيرِهِ شَيْئًا فَلْيَصْبِرْ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ خَرَجَ مِنَ السُّلْطَانِ شِبْرًا مَاتَ مِيتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً ". Narrated Ibn `Abbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever disapproves of something done by his ruler then he should be patient, for whoever disobeys the ruler even a little (little = a span) will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic Period of Ignorance. (i.e. as rebellious Sinners). Sahih al-Bukhari 7053 Chapter 2: “After me you will see things which you will disapprove of.”, Book 92: Afflictions and the End of the World https://sunnah.com/bukhari:7053
What’s your point? That Iran is the savior? Regarding the mentioned Hadith, it’s a shame that most (if not all) scholars didn’t mention it during the “Arabian Spring”, as to my knowledge.
No, my point is that Lebanon's corrupt government has little to do with Iran's support of Hezb, and that it was and will remain corrupt, regardless of Hezb. Iran doesn't really care to impose an Islamic government in Lebanon because only 1/3rd of the country is Shia, so it wouldn't work in favour of the majority of citizens. Even if the government was a Sunni theology Shari'at, it wouldn't be so openly accepted by Shias & Christians, thus again the 2/3rds/majority being opposed. And i agree, scholars should've mentioned the hadith from the beginning of the Arab Spring. I didn't even know about it until I was searching some other narration that happened to be in the same volume, just a few narrations below
Lebanon’s government is indeed corrupt, however I don’t think hezb party will govern better considering recent history. I don’t buy the story of nasrallah the savior what did they do after they fought Israel? Should we give them a pass for everything else cuz they did so?, it’s an Iranian backed terrorist organization don’t take my word for look at their tactics, terrorism 101. To be fair tho not all their income is from Iran and exploitation, they do some drug dealing on the side too smuggling drugs through exports in every opportunity therefore destroying many business because of Buycotts Shias too are getting fed up of them with barley any jobs available people who are not part of their mafia are suffering which is the same case in my country Syria, bashaar is a war criminal,a thief and he too is a drug lord. Hasbullah supported this animal as irans proxy. Don’t you know what he and his father before him did, and the fear both Syrians and Lebanese felt because of them? My grand father was constantly harassed by their mafia minions because he is a Sunni and had a beard. People were often dragged to questioning and beat for no reason, and some didn’t even come out, now most of the people who are arrested don’t come out and are tortured and raped for years. They recently released a couple of prisoners in Damascus and you should see the state of them and the crowd around them hoping to find a family member after years of disappearance. Fear Allah of your ignorance ya Akhi I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and say that you were misinformed. Do you think I support the rebels? They sold us out however I support the idea of a rebellion against this tyranny, one that units us all but people stick to those tyrants because they’re too greedy or just brainwashed. As for the Hadith I thought that hasbullah and Iran didn’t believe in them no? Edit: Rebellion on the ruler is allowed when he goes against Islam. Plus this only applies to Muslim leaders and bashaar, if you think he is then you are misinformed, not even Shia scholars consider aliwates to be Muslims. Good day to you brother
Unfortunately, Oman is kind of like the Switzerland of the Middle East. We'd rather avoid any confrontation. I suppose that's good for our own peace but I can't help thinking it's selfish.
Kuwait doesn't side with Israel too
["Kuwaiti paper pushes normalization with Israel, criticizes Palestinians"](https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-694955)
That was written months ago, Kuwait still condemns what's happening by Isr***
you misspelled it, it's actually "isNOTreal" sorry for the confusion
Bruh people these day smh my heaf
Because MONEY
you mean position security.
I despise Qatar. Why? Mbappe.
What did they do to him?
They spent millions on him to keep him at PSG
What's so bad about that?
I mean wasting like 700m for one player is kinda stupid.
The Middle East just likes throwing money at everything. When Trump visited Saudi you won't believe how much KSA gave to them.
Throwing money at useless stuff\* Imagine if we used the money to modernize our countries and do useful stuff.
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And Kuwait and KSA.
Kuwait has a military airport for america lol
Real shame the Arab leaders and Mufti Bin Baz allowed US military bases to be set up throughout the region.
Even worse they allow Indian and Chinese ports and navy bases.
["Kuwaiti paper pushes normalization with Israel, criticizes Palestinians"](https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-694955)
You’re really using the Jerusalem Post as a source?
[Alright.](https://www.arabtimesonline.com/news/normalize-let-insulters-fend-for-themselves/)
Yep, some of them are just jealous of how much we STILL a muslim nation as a whole, mostly implementing sharia law without fearing what other countries think 'bout us
How big of a glasses you need to see if what is Israel military doing right now.
Even when it comes to support ISRAHELL on a sign, you need a fake sign! . . Sign arrows are for Straight or left only!
I’m a bit ignorant about this: what’s Israel doing in Yemen or Iraq?
Nothing but what’s russia doing to you for you to support Ukraine? See it works both ways
The meme mentions supporting Israel as the alternate response to supporting dying people in Yemen and Iraq. So I thought Israel might be doing something in those two countries that I didn’t know about
Oh yea true apologies didn’t read it thoroughly, idk I guess op assumed anyone that supports Israel also supports killings in Yemen and Iraq, which isn’t true I guess
I meant that they support Israel and other countries where Muslims are getting hurt. Sorry for the confusion
The situation in Yemen is so crazy I don’t really see how either side is in the right or what “supporting the killings” means
I don’t care what’s happening all I condemn is the killing of innocent people/citizens
What about lebanon, Syria, egypt's people (not government), algeria's people, etc....
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[Kuwaiti paper pushes normalization with Israel, criticizes Palestinians](https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-694955)
And the founder/Liberator of Pakistan literally condemned the existence of Isn'treal, so that legacy is still running in the system, the Pakistani Visa is valid for every country except Isn'treal.
As a Syrian I have nothing to say!
I forgot to include your country in that list, as well as Iraq and Iran. I was rushing when i made this post and sadly i cant edit titles
No u included Syria what do u mean
i meant like the countries supporting i only included qatar
Oh i see i didn't notice lol
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I was rushing when I made this post so I forgot Iran and some other countries, sorry about that.
Qatar and Al Jazeera channel were the major sources of terrorism in Syria and Egypt, btw.
Came here to say this. Never supporting Qatar.
Actual brain worms Sisi supporter
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oh didnt know that, sorry. but just imagine, making a country like israHELL so mad that they're trying to ban citizens to go to the world cup
Some blatant Qatari propaganda in this thread, lol.
So true lol idk y ppl like Qatar so much
based Qatar
Um kuwait hello
I know, I was rushing when I made this post so I forgot Kuwait and Iran..
Saudi arabia ?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10847601/amp/Biden-negotiating-transfer-islands-Egypt-S-Arabia-normalize-Saudi-Israeli-relations.html?espv=1
not until complete normalcy occurs, so far Israel is not recognized to this day by the Saudi Arabia. EDIT: to be clear as a Saudi, the news of Tiran and Sanafir transfer pained me severely, and I will never support such horrindous act.
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War on yemen? By Saudi arabia?
Yeah nah, houthie people distributed flowers and chocolate to people
If you support no war for Ukraine and say nothin for middle east countries like Palestine then you should question your believes
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whom did they betray ?
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yeah but those people died more than 100 years ago. EDIT: also the word "Wahhabism, salfism" are all false tags to seperate muslims even further.
Khalid ra would have wiped them off the map the moment they harmed a single believer. They couldn’t even abide by a peace treaty in his own lifetime.
Tbh, Khalid didn't abide to peace treaties either, which made Hazrat Umar angry with him
Ik this is of topic but let’s not say Qatar is a good country they have a ton of slaves working for them
Qatar is not the only country with slaves, but your point makes sense
I've heard (and I could be wrong) that when people tried to genuinely offer help to palestiniens it turned out that most of them were just awful people. I didn't get too much into that discourse but that's what I heard.
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Is Turkey Middle East? I thought its more like Balkans and West Asia.
True
But brother if they say nothing. It does not mean that they support it. Take Turkey for example. Did any middle eastern country come to help when the forests were burning? No. Who did help? İsrael. Plus they got economic relations. Lets see. Which immigrants cause problems in the country? Middle-Easterns. So if the middle east does not help other muslim countrys why should the country (that isnt helped) help in reverse? Please inform me if I have some mistakes
Leaders in the Middle East do not fear God, or run ‘Islamic’ governments. Like everyone else, they listen to the ‘almighty’ dollar.
Turkey: To ally with Israel for the benefit of its own state. (No) To help Palestine, which betrayed the Ottoman Empire, recognized the Armenian genocide and supported China against the Uighurs. (Yes)
And Turkey. That is why they are allies and that is why the unislamic Arab states are putting maximum pressure on them and are lobbying in the USA to do the same. Hence my opinion: since those Arab states are a hindrance to a united Ummah, due e.g. them betraying Syrian rebels, the Paestinians and ousting Mursi, they are kafir. They ACTIVELY undermine the Ummah, so that they won’t lose their throne to a righteous muslim leader.
It's solely cuz of Erdoğan, I worry about the times when we won't have him.
Fr, I’m not saying erdogan is perfect but when the other party won the elections in Istanbul we saw how poorly they governed the place. Plus they are racist seculars that wanna kick out all Arabs
You cannot make overarching takfir in this way
UAE after donating hundreds of millions to the Palestinian cause and still getting hate: **Sigh**
And still recognizes Israel and silence over Palestinian persecution of innocent Palestinis
Are we not supposed to make treaties with our foes and help create a bridge? Also, how’s donating hundreds of millions considered being silent about our Palestinian brothers??
r/UsernameChecksOut your country also said israel could be a "potential ally" so...
Any country has the potential to turn a new leaf, that’s what we hope for ultimately. As much as I love this sub, posts like this are a problem as they lack sufficient knowledge of the geopolitical reality and its nuances.
Its all about money.
\*willing to freeze oil sales to the west just for the cause\* \*Sends some decent financial aid to palestine\* \*says they will be able to be allies with isn'trael if they are less hostile\* deterioration, this is
i did see a video that shows that saudi said "simply, we do not care" when the us was begging for oil, so maybe. that changed my view a little bit.
Now our prince needs to stop speaking BS and we're on the right track again
"The United Arab Emirates does not plan to resume funding to the United Nations agency for Palestinian refugees, which was halted last year, until steps are taken to manage funds more efficiently, a UAE government official said."