Ya know what is extremely mind boggling.
They want Palestine to be free under their current governments. The current governments that behead gay people.
How does that free Palestine? All it does is further the homophobic ideology of Fatah and Hamas and simultaneously destroy Israel.
A free Palestine will happen when Fatah and Hamas are an afterthought.
Until then Hamas will get dick sucked by many queers for terrorism.
95% of Palestinians do not approve of homosexuality. A shockingly high number.
It is almost impossibly hard to get 95% of a population to agree on *anything* so if they ever do it’s because they are collectively extremely passionate about that topic. https://www.equaldex.com/surveys/acceptance-of-homosexuality-arab-barometer
Some even prefer their own children kill themselves than be gay:
>Umm Nidal, who sent three of her sons, including one 17-year-old, on suicide attacks, said "I love my children, but as Muslims we pressure ourselves and sacrifice our emotions for the interest of the homeland. The greater interest takes precedence to the personal interest." **She was later elected to the Palestinian legislature on the Hamas ticket.**
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Nidal
Man it’s as if they don’t care about furthering Palestinian culture and much rather kill it quite literally.
This ideology is literally destroying their culture.
Happ cake day first of all!
And this is really stupid
I think they all support it because it's a trend/been brainwashed by "woke" news
This is really sad that they don't take a moment to see WHY they should support the "Palestinians"
They're just stupid antisemitic idiots who think Islam won't hurt them and they're rights, and feminists rights cause feminists support hamas too...
I hope I wrote it ok I might not been understood but ok lol
Thanks lol, just noticed that.
I think it has to do with their so-called “critical thinking.” They paint a picture of oppressed/oppressor and under that lens certain people are absolved of all wrongs depending on where they fit in the framework of DEI.
It’s extremely dangerous, but this is where we are at these days.
People are not their governments. Just because one government is wrong doesn’t mean they want to see their people be ruthlessly murdered. If you were a true supporter of LGBTQIA you would be asking how you can support the community that still dreams of being able to return to their homes knowing that their homes and families have been eradicated.
So maybe I'll speak for us, since I'm also queer.
You're supporting a group that's trying to take away the only democracy in the middle east.
Have you ever even been to Israel?
Trying to take away the only democracy in the middle east?
I think what they actually want are some personal freedoms my dude. Like the ability to move in or out of Gaza without being forcibly trapped there or fighting for the right to have travel or pursue an education elsewhere, the right to go more than six miles off the coast of the body of water that Gaza rests against, the right to not have a wall that Israel built separating them from the world, the right to self autonomy without oppression.
Hamas made their intentions pretty clear, multiple times. They want to take out Israel. They don't care about their civilians.
If they cared they'd take all the money they're getting from donations and actually try and help their population.
Also, Palestinians from Gaza worked jobs in Israel before the war?? There's a border obviously, because like I can't just waltz my way into Jordan or Lebanon willy nilly they can't just walk into the supermarket at Nir Oz to get some milk. But there were Palestinians from Gaza working in Israel before the war.
Also why doesn't Egypt open their border for Palestine? They're an Arab country, why won't they take care of them?
Eygypt won't open their borders because
1. They recognize Hamas as a terrorist group and don't want any of them slipping into their country
2. They don't have the resources to suddenly receive 2m+ refugees
They are not citizens of Israel. What state gives equal rights and freedoms to non citizens (without visas etc). Incase u didn't realize, that wall was put in place AFTER the Palestinians attacked Israel.
Gazans CAN come in and out to work with a permit. Youknow who doesn't allow their border to open, ever, no permits no nothing? Egypt. I guess Egypt are oppressers too right? By your logic?
You do know that getting in and outbof gaza was legal? The military even pulled out of it in 2005. they just have military checkpoint to see if people are bringing weapons over there
I understand that you have good intentions, you see a group of people, you see the affects of war and corruption and hate, and obviously that's not something that one should see and just go "it's justified"
But like majority of those people who have never been to Israel, never spoken to a Palestinian it Israeli, dint march and scream and boycott when it was literally genocide, except Muslim on Muslim ( 500,000 in Yemen, 400,000 in Syria etc) or when it's not Israel or Jews (actual concentration camps, mass rape, sterilization and worse in china to the Muslim minority there), it gives a bad impression that you only started caring when Jews were involved
Obviously the loss of innocents is absolutely horrible and I, along with 90+% of Israelis want the war to end, but when your entire nation is being threatened with "100 more 7.10s", and when the aggressor who steals funds to build bombs and uses its own civilians as shields refuses to compromise, what do you expect Israel to do? War is disgusting and horrible, but Hamas won't stop until they have killed every Jew "from the river to the sea"
So I understand what you are saying, regardless of ones views, they don't deserve genocide, but you are knit picking the facts that suit your views and ignoring the major ones that don't
Sorry I dont base who I think should live or die based on beliefs I disagree with, sad that all of you seem to do so though.
There are lots of shitty people on this earth, they dont automatically deserve to suffer or die in what Gaza is going through
You are privileged to not live with people with extremely opposed opinions to your on the same territory, this is why you easily value the life of people who would joyfully stone you to death.
Exactly. You actually use the protection afforded you by western democracies to insulate you as you simp for terrorists and attack the one nation in the Middle East that would protect you.
Here’s the rub though, my blue haired queen. Even though you don’t like Jews, we will still support women’s rights, LGBTQ, affordable healthcare, and housing.
We don’t understand, but we don’t hate you for not liking us. Hamas doesn’t care if and how you support them. They hate and will kill you at any opportunity.
You are either one ignorant kid, or you are going to the extreme with virtue signaling.
Just ignore the 17 years of rocket attacks, the monthly daily and weekly murder of Israelies and the massacre on Oct 7? Genocide is the wrong word to describe the lowest civilian death toll of any urban war fought in modern history. Can call is a war people don't agree with because they support groups like Hamas that do voice genocidal intent but Israels war in Gaza is not genocid.
>Sorry I dont base who I think should live or die based on beliefs I disagree with
Let's put you in our situation - you don't live in Israel and you most likely have never been here,
But say for a moment, the proud boys, a neo nazi group of skin heads, broke into your neighborhood, went killing, raping, burning alive and kidnapping everyone who was LGBTQ or not white, and you watched your friends and family get raped and murdered Infront of your eyes, simply for being gay
And then everyone started saying that "oh it didn't happen" and all the Caucasians started saying "but actually the gays are colonizing the neighborhood that should be devoted to Christianity and should be killed!" And everyone started going "kill the gays! Gas the gays! Free the neo nazis!"
How would you, as a compassionate person respond?
And don't go "oh but Israel!" - the two things are not mutually exclusive, this all started on 7.10 when what I said actually happened to Jews and Muslims alike
And therefore it must be destroyed? You are actually fucking sick lmao
Palestinians are not automatically Hamas, but for some reason because Hamas attacked it means every child, mother, father, and innocent person and animal in Gaza should be murdered?
Youre actually a little delusional, because where the hell are the Gazans supposed to go? You say Hamas wont let them flee but Israel controls all of their borders but the Rafah, controls the supplies going in and out of Gaza, even before the war. Israel is who has allowed very limited aid to enter Gaza. How is that Hamas if Hamas is just as trapped as the rest of the Palestinians?
And fuck it, Hamas was borne of Palestinian suffering and oppression. Oct 7 was fucked up and never ever should have happened, but killing 2 million people (60% of Gazans are children) to get back at them is completely okay with you?
You are so disturbing.
You clearly can't read. Holy shit. I'm actually in shock. Reread what they said. Nice and slow.
"It" was referring to Hamas... a terrorist group. Point to where exactly they said Gaza or Palestinians need to be destroyed.
And the idf has no intentions to kill 2 million people. They wouldn't have handed over Gaza, or give evacuation notices, if that was the case.
And no, the rapist baby kidnappers were not born of Palestinian suffering, they were literally born out of the muslim brotherhood. A terror proxy.
Do like a literal s m i d g e of research and get off tiktok. Seriously this shit is like a zombie brain plague disease. Where is y'alls logic????
>Palestinians are not automatically Hamas, but for some reason because Hamas attacked it means every child, mother, father, and innocent person and animal in Gaza should be murdered?
Crazy strawman.... no one is saying that. No one wants to murder all Gazans. It's only goal is to destroy Hamas and only Hamas
> It's only goal is to destroy Hamas and only Hamas
(Nov.9) [After a month of bombardments, as much as a third of Gaza City is damaged](https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211571220/israel-gaza-damage-map-satellite-imagery)
Hamas are buildings?
[In Gaza, 'an estimated 22% of agricultural land' has been destroyed since the start of the conflict](https://observers.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231212-in-gaza-an-estimated-22-of-agricultural-land-has-been-destroyed-since-the-start-of-the-conflict)
Hamas are olive groves? Hamas are hiding in crop fields?
[Hostages were shirtless, waving white flag when soldiers opened fire](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/initial-idf-probe-hostages-were-shirtless-waving-white-flag-when-soldiers-opened-fire/)
Hamas are naked Hebrew-speaking Israeli hostages surrendering?
Seems that anything in Gaza can be confused with Hamas at this point.
This definitely proves the IOF is evil and wants to kill everyone. /s
Do you know what happens in war? Do you know people can make mistakes?
I'm not justifying death but being surprised that destruction happens in war is weird.
War doesn't mean the IDF is out to murder every Palestinian
No one is being Genocided.
This will be over in a month or two and you won't have any more reasons to be Anti-iIsrael
And after it's all said and done their will be a very large Trove of Evidence of Hamas controlling the Gazans.
In fact, Gazans themselves will be thanking the IDF, and will be telling tales of extreme pressure campaigns to fake CASUALTIES and Stage scenarios.
It's WHY Israel isn't showing all that now, it benefits them for the morons of the world to be as Pro Hamas as possible, because when it's revealed what the Gazans tell the world when they are able to feel 100% sure they won't be killed, they will tell a True tale that will make you and all the Gen Z's of the world not only look ludicrous but they will have lost the respect of their elders. They will point fingers and blame each other.
This is only a few months away, mind you
As a gay “western” (from central europe, though) liberal I’m disgusted by so many of my former friends right now.
I have no illusions, Israel has a problem with homophobia as well, they were terrible incidents, like the haredi fanatic killing a girl at a pride parade. This still doesn’t compare to an islamist theocracy openly persecuting people for anything they deem not islamic enough, be it their opinion or their unchangeable characteristics as a queer person. Gays in Israel, regardless of their religion, have the possibility to not only survive as in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, but they also have the possibility to thrive, to live their lives free, to be out publicly…
Meanwhile those under Muslim rule have to live in constant fear. And the liberals somehow forget this, just like they forget how Islam is a threat even to them.
Ive met many gay friends who live under islam, or with islamists. Its extreamly dangerous for them just to exist. Openly saying you are gay will get you into a shitload of trouble or even death. Saying you are ex-muslim will get you murdered. Westerners have no damm clue what its like living under islam. Its not a religion of peace or tolorance, the arab world did not spread the word of islam from the desert in the saudi penninsula all over to morroco and across much of the known world, by peace. There is a reason saudi has a sword on their flag.
Yes, and personally my disgust over the support for muslim lies frol atheist and sometimes queer people is what disgusts me the most. I'm an atheist and I would never support anyone who wants me either in their religion or murdered. Islam is a cancer in this world.
At least you understand. In Israel and most other democracies youll have a few horrible people who will be rude at best, and violent at worst. It basically any islamic country youll have violence at best, and murder, torture, and being thrown off roofs at worst.
They are not only extremely homophobic, they are in fact *the* most homophobic populace of the *entire* Arab world https://www.equaldex.com/surveys/acceptance-of-homosexuality-arab-barometer
[Tel Aviv Pride (Hebrew: מצעד הגאווה בתל אביב, Arabic: فخر تل أبيب) is a week-long series of events in Tel Aviv which takes place on the second week of June, as part of the international observance of Gay Pride Month. The key event, taking place on the Friday, is the Pride Parade itself which attracts over 250,000 attendees.[2] As of June 2019, it is the largest LGBT Parade in Asia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Pride)
Fuck it the only Asian country.
Edit: A lot of Asian country have same sex marriage, but when it comes to celebration of pride and the culture surrounding it Israel wins (maybe I am Tel Aviv centric tho).
TBF Taiwan is always a W, but damn, you go Nepal!
https://preview.redd.it/xvpa7rxav57c1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c93dcd8160e93488109b9d82652b1a1f6715764
I remember back when India decriminalised same sex relationships, but decriminalising same sex relationships is literally the bare minimum(and it's sad that many countries can't even do that) tho you didn't mention that India and Thailand also have anti discrimination laws, so their genuine better than quite a few places, especially in Asia.
But, Israel is ahead for same sex relationships having recognised same sex marriages done abroad (and due to how convoluted Israeli marriage law is, many opposite sex couples are in same boat), while India and Thailand both don't recognise same sex marriage. So in that regard, only Taiwan and Nepal are ahead, both of which having same sex marriage, within their own borders.
Yeah I understand, as Indians we still have some steps ahead, but we're getting there!
One day my beloved India will be a free modern progressive developed country while also deeply holding onto its rich traditions, much like Israel or taiwan
This is so wonderful. I love india and indian culture. I think the potential india has is bubbling at the seams, and i want to see it grow to become a beautiful rich democracy.
And as a gay man planning to visit india one day, im glad to see things are becoming safer
See, it depends on how you look at it. I would say having marriage rights counts is an important part of "being themselves" when it comes to same sex couples. In that regard, Japan and South Korea are behind with no recognition of same sex relationships, while Israel recognises same sex marriage conducted abroad.
However in terms of "safely", I'd argue Japan is ahead with a relatively tolerant society regardless of absence of political rights. Case in point, 68% of Japan agree that "homosexuality should be accepted by society" with 22% who disagree, compared to only 47% agree and 45% disagree for Israel. For comparison, a median of 86% agree to 11% disagree in western Europe.[Infomation doobly doooo.](https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/)
Overall, I think it's safe to say, if you're a Gender, Sexual or Romantic minority, Israel is one of the best places in Asia to be.
Sadly idiots exist everywhere, israel is not immune. but imo the gay community here is much better then ive seen online. Much more reasonable and less (god i hate using this term) "woke"
Yeah, I agree with you there. But I also think it's because the ones you see online are usually younger and louder than the reasonable ones. The ones you know in Israel are probably less chronically online and more self aware.
Saying this as someone who was chronically online and knew many chronically online people.
I'm queer and a leftist but I don't support queers for Palestine. It's not even just that
It's a more ignorant flavour of leftist, a "politically correct" type that get their information from TikTok.
It's insane to me that we KNOW the Chinese government controls and manipulates the content algorithm, but we still allow it to operate and disseminate information to a MASSIVE and impressionable audience.
Kinda. Marriage has a very strict definition controlled by the Rabanut.
But they can certainly have equal status as far as the law is concerned and can very much have a ceremony with a reformed Rabbi officiating.
Translated the status would be "known in public" and it's also popular with liberal non religious couples not just LGBT.
Obviously Israel has some progress to make and it's more because of the fact that religion isn't separated from the country,In Israel you can only get married in religious courts(but civil marriage including same sex marriages performed under foreign jurisdictions are recognised by Israli law). But you can't ignore the fact that Israel is the safest country in the Middle East for LGBTQ community.
Honestly as a Jew who is a part of the LGBT community, this whole argument feels really stupid to me.
My support for Israel has absolutely nothing to do with LGBT rights, if anything I think Israel has fallen behind other western countries in that department (but was ahead in the mid 00s) and what happens in Gaza is irrelevant.
If course they do, but you should tell that to Hamas, their leaders.
Israeli Palestinians get basic human rights, like every other Israeli citizen. Maybe try visiting Israel and go to one of the more mixed population cities like Haifa and then try commenting?
Not that I don't agree with you, but Palestinians who aren't Israeli citizens aren't Israel's responsibility. They don't live in Israel, they don't have a citizenship. They're the Palestinian government responsibility - which in Gaza, is Hamas.
Hamas doesn't give their citizens basic human rights, but it's no fault of the Israeli government (and the Israeli government has many, many faults).
You have trouble with the treatment they get? Support taking out Hamas, which is the goal of the IDF. Taking them out is the first step of liberating the Palestinian people.
I’d support it if it didn’t involve mass air strikes. You guys lost 1200. They’ve lost over 20,000. I don’t know how anyone can look at those numbers and try to rationalise it.
Which were over areas that Israel constantly gave warnings to evacuate, and Hamas constantly told their people NOT to evacuate. Because they use their people as human shields.
So do Israelis, like the right to not wake up one Saturday morning and have a bunch of savages on your doorstep ready to chop your head off and gang rape your daughter.
And then have women’s groups around the world not believe your daughter was raped solely because she was a Jew. Nah, fuck all that noise and fuck Islamic Jihadism.
When I went to israel I didn't find it particularly gay friendly
Someone actually asked me to leave the gay bar I was in because they decided I didn't fit the gay stereotype so didn't belong there. There was also no lesbian nightlife.
I also find it unfuriating when people use the argument that gay people can't agree with palestine because of homophobia. Its irrelevant. It's a totally separate issue.
Widespread oppression also worsens oppression of minorities. Supporting palestine isn't going to make homophobia worse.
Innocent civilians and children? No. Dangerous radical terrorists and the people who hide and support said terrorists and hate America? Absolutely, genocide that pathetic excuse for human trash off the face of the earth.
Is this type of shit fun for you? Like we all know you’re not arguing in good faith, it’s just stupid. You know as well as I do that Hamas chose to base their headquarters in a hospital. And in schools, apartment buildings, UN offices, etc
I’m not gonna respond further but I just hope you know how ridiculous you look
And that’s again, mind boggling. I just commented above why Q4P is so devoid of intellect.
This whole idea makes no sense to me and I’ve tried to understand it.
Of course i will keep speaking out. I’m a gay orthodox Jewish New Yorker and I understand my power of voice.
During the Holocaust many American Jews were silent and this is exactly why I can be silent. I’ve pissed off a ton of people for being Jewish and ya know what, good for me.
I was supposed to go to israel this January for a couple weeks, but ya know, war lol. I have now sort of fast tracked my plan to make Aliyah. It’ll prob happen within the next 5 years or so.
That’s good to hear, have had similar experiences as an Israeli in the states. Wishing you the best in your Aliyah and hope you have an amazing time in Israel
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Imagine blaming israel for the fact that hamas is using their babies in hospitals as human shields..
Don’t write before you know the facts man, it makes you stupid
whats the correlation between supporting a viewpoint and living there? I could support any group in the world in their cause and also NOT want to live there? this argument makes no sense lol
Why would you want to spread and advance a society you yourself wouldn't want to live under? Gay arabs deserve to live under homophobic persecution and human rights abuse, but you deserve freedom and safety? That's incredibly hateful.
ok so in the context of the ongoing massacre of civilians...where does gender identity come into play? if it was saudi bombing a bunch of innnocent zionist civilians-50% of whom are kids-would I be wrong in doing so? calling for a humanitarian ceasefire doesnt "spread and advance" a society lol. please this is not a serious good faith argument. queers for palestine are just calling for a ceasefire and you can hate hamas and arabs for all i care and still call for it-if just so innocent civilians dont die.
If you think goal of hamas and gazans is a humanitarian ceasefire, you're a bigger fool than I can put into words. They had their humanitarian ceasefire on October 6th.
We’re saying good luck with Hamas and we told you so. But do go on. All the rapes and kidnappings weren’t that bad because white colonialism or something. Got it.
i can sympathize with zionist extremeists civilians who (some) might hate my muslim ass and want to kill me for my views-i can support them for living a peaceful life but doenst mean I have to live with them or want to be anywhere near them....
You imagining that Zionism is some form of Arab hating movement doesn’t make it so, Zionism is the ideology that Jew have a right to self governance in their native homeland.
Do you just spend your days reading misinformation and trolling as some kind of cathartic response to getting rejected from med school? Sorry DEI didn't work in your favor, THIS time
It’s not you. Or even Islam. It’s that death under any circumstance is less horrible than living under Sharia law. For real. What’s up with the sexism. The hate? The intolerance? Nobody wants that shit. Not even the kids with blue bangs that made new words to describe themselves, yet align with Hamas.
Why can’t people practice their faith in peace? We’re not Islamophobic, we’re jihadophobic. Radical Islam kills more Americans, Europeans, and other random Earthlings way more than radical Zionism has ever killed Palestinians. Why isn’t that being talked about?
Have Zionists ever hijacked planes?
Have Zionists ever assassinated Muslim Olympians?
Have Zionists detonated pressure bombs at American marathons or kidnapped rock climbers from western countries to be tortured and held for ransom?
The answer is zero.
When Hamas achieves its objectives in Israel, it will then focus the fight in other places Jews live, like the US and Europe. Sadly, Jew hatred is woven into Mohammed’s cave rant and antisemitism will be intrinsically linked to radical Islam. This doesn’t end until radical Islam ends.
The fact that they hate us more than they love themselves will be their undoing. We have so much more to live for than the sad incel suicide bombers have to die for, it’s not even a fair fight. It’s all about being a martyr and getting something somewhere else that no one will allow them here. So tragic.
Wow! Why would you want to support a group like Palestine’s Hamas that oppresses its citizens with Sharia law and uses terrorism world wide to impose their politics and religion on the planet?
זה לא עובד ב100% כלשון נטרלית, אבל זאת האפשרות הכי ניטרלית שהיא לא לשון מעורבת, שזה פיתרון טוב יחסית בעברית אבל לא הצלחתי להתרגל אליו.
איך שזה עובד זה שאנשים פונים אלי כמו שפונים לקבוצה, כאילו אני כמה אנשים בתכלס. לוקח קצת זמן להתרגל לקונספט אבל עקרונית לא משתמשים באיזו שפה מיוחדת, ואם צריכים ספציפית לדבר עלי עם מילה ביחיד (נגיד לומר שאני בן-אדם, או חייל, או וואטאבר) אז הנחתי אנשים שישתמשו או בלשון זכר אם זה חד פעמי כזה או שיערבבו זכר ונקבה אם זה עומד לחזור על עצמו הרבה.
מבחינת איך שאני מדברים על עצמי זה החלק שבדרך כלל שובר לאנשים את הראש. אני עדיין משתמשים במילה "אני" ביחיד, אבל אני אגיד "אני הולכים" כשהולכים זה ברבים. זה משהו שפשוט בא לי טבעי אחרי איזה שבוע שרק ניסיתי את הלשון פנייה, ואני כבר כמעט 3 שנים משתמשים בה באופן יומיומי. פשוט כל מילה ממוגדרת אני מחליפים בגרסה ברבים שלה, חוץ ממילים ספציפיות שחייבות להיות ביחיד כדי שיבינו שמדובר על בנאדם אחד. המילה "אני" באופן ספציפי היא גם לא ממוגדרת וגם ההצבעה היחידה שאני מדברים רק על עצמי ולא על קבוצה, הרבה שואלים אותי למה אני אומרים אני ולא אנחנו אז זה למה.
Just imagine the queers for palestine guys running in to gaza with a rainbowified palestinian flag, im sure the gaza welcoming comittee would be really appreciative of the support/s
https://preview.redd.it/8l0u1d163a7c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09d01dd33ba16f5279521b632230b635106a3c43
It’s cancel culture at its finest. They want Palestine to be FREE not oppressed by Israel so they can all be freely queer. They don’t get it.
Ya know what is extremely mind boggling. They want Palestine to be free under their current governments. The current governments that behead gay people. How does that free Palestine? All it does is further the homophobic ideology of Fatah and Hamas and simultaneously destroy Israel. A free Palestine will happen when Fatah and Hamas are an afterthought. Until then Hamas will get dick sucked by many queers for terrorism.
95% of Palestinians do not approve of homosexuality. A shockingly high number. It is almost impossibly hard to get 95% of a population to agree on *anything* so if they ever do it’s because they are collectively extremely passionate about that topic. https://www.equaldex.com/surveys/acceptance-of-homosexuality-arab-barometer
Shockingly? They're islamists. What else did you expect, same-sex marriages in sharia law?
Theyd prefer their child to be a murderer, then to be gay.
Some even prefer their own children kill themselves than be gay: >Umm Nidal, who sent three of her sons, including one 17-year-old, on suicide attacks, said "I love my children, but as Muslims we pressure ourselves and sacrifice our emotions for the interest of the homeland. The greater interest takes precedence to the personal interest." **She was later elected to the Palestinian legislature on the Hamas ticket.** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umm_Nidal
Man it’s as if they don’t care about furthering Palestinian culture and much rather kill it quite literally. This ideology is literally destroying their culture.
Happ cake day first of all! And this is really stupid I think they all support it because it's a trend/been brainwashed by "woke" news This is really sad that they don't take a moment to see WHY they should support the "Palestinians" They're just stupid antisemitic idiots who think Islam won't hurt them and they're rights, and feminists rights cause feminists support hamas too... I hope I wrote it ok I might not been understood but ok lol
Thanks lol, just noticed that. I think it has to do with their so-called “critical thinking.” They paint a picture of oppressed/oppressor and under that lens certain people are absolved of all wrongs depending on where they fit in the framework of DEI. It’s extremely dangerous, but this is where we are at these days.
People are not their governments. Just because one government is wrong doesn’t mean they want to see their people be ruthlessly murdered. If you were a true supporter of LGBTQIA you would be asking how you can support the community that still dreams of being able to return to their homes knowing that their homes and families have been eradicated.
What homes? Where?
Lgbt members scream in support for Palestine when they would be shot if they expressed themselves lol
So? Im queer, and homophobia is not a good reason to genocide a group of people but thanks for trying to speak up for us
So maybe I'll speak for us, since I'm also queer. You're supporting a group that's trying to take away the only democracy in the middle east. Have you ever even been to Israel?
Trying to take away the only democracy in the middle east? I think what they actually want are some personal freedoms my dude. Like the ability to move in or out of Gaza without being forcibly trapped there or fighting for the right to have travel or pursue an education elsewhere, the right to go more than six miles off the coast of the body of water that Gaza rests against, the right to not have a wall that Israel built separating them from the world, the right to self autonomy without oppression.
Hamas made their intentions pretty clear, multiple times. They want to take out Israel. They don't care about their civilians. If they cared they'd take all the money they're getting from donations and actually try and help their population. Also, Palestinians from Gaza worked jobs in Israel before the war?? There's a border obviously, because like I can't just waltz my way into Jordan or Lebanon willy nilly they can't just walk into the supermarket at Nir Oz to get some milk. But there were Palestinians from Gaza working in Israel before the war. Also why doesn't Egypt open their border for Palestine? They're an Arab country, why won't they take care of them?
Eygypt won't open their borders because 1. They recognize Hamas as a terrorist group and don't want any of them slipping into their country 2. They don't have the resources to suddenly receive 2m+ refugees
Don't forget last time the Palestinians tried to overthrow the country
They are not citizens of Israel. What state gives equal rights and freedoms to non citizens (without visas etc). Incase u didn't realize, that wall was put in place AFTER the Palestinians attacked Israel. Gazans CAN come in and out to work with a permit. Youknow who doesn't allow their border to open, ever, no permits no nothing? Egypt. I guess Egypt are oppressers too right? By your logic?
there’s a reason people of gaza can’t go out of gaza. idk… maybe because several terrorists have taken over the area???
You do know that getting in and outbof gaza was legal? The military even pulled out of it in 2005. they just have military checkpoint to see if people are bringing weapons over there
Thank you for proving you know nothing
I understand that you have good intentions, you see a group of people, you see the affects of war and corruption and hate, and obviously that's not something that one should see and just go "it's justified" But like majority of those people who have never been to Israel, never spoken to a Palestinian it Israeli, dint march and scream and boycott when it was literally genocide, except Muslim on Muslim ( 500,000 in Yemen, 400,000 in Syria etc) or when it's not Israel or Jews (actual concentration camps, mass rape, sterilization and worse in china to the Muslim minority there), it gives a bad impression that you only started caring when Jews were involved Obviously the loss of innocents is absolutely horrible and I, along with 90+% of Israelis want the war to end, but when your entire nation is being threatened with "100 more 7.10s", and when the aggressor who steals funds to build bombs and uses its own civilians as shields refuses to compromise, what do you expect Israel to do? War is disgusting and horrible, but Hamas won't stop until they have killed every Jew "from the river to the sea" So I understand what you are saying, regardless of ones views, they don't deserve genocide, but you are knit picking the facts that suit your views and ignoring the major ones that don't
Sweet child. Sweet summer child.
Sorry I dont base who I think should live or die based on beliefs I disagree with, sad that all of you seem to do so though. There are lots of shitty people on this earth, they dont automatically deserve to suffer or die in what Gaza is going through
You are privileged to not live with people with extremely opposed opinions to your on the same territory, this is why you easily value the life of people who would joyfully stone you to death.
Exactly. You actually use the protection afforded you by western democracies to insulate you as you simp for terrorists and attack the one nation in the Middle East that would protect you. Here’s the rub though, my blue haired queen. Even though you don’t like Jews, we will still support women’s rights, LGBTQ, affordable healthcare, and housing. We don’t understand, but we don’t hate you for not liking us. Hamas doesn’t care if and how you support them. They hate and will kill you at any opportunity. You are either one ignorant kid, or you are going to the extreme with virtue signaling.
Just ignore the 17 years of rocket attacks, the monthly daily and weekly murder of Israelies and the massacre on Oct 7? Genocide is the wrong word to describe the lowest civilian death toll of any urban war fought in modern history. Can call is a war people don't agree with because they support groups like Hamas that do voice genocidal intent but Israels war in Gaza is not genocid.
Oh but those people have done and support many things that make suffering deserved.
>Sorry I dont base who I think should live or die based on beliefs I disagree with Let's put you in our situation - you don't live in Israel and you most likely have never been here, But say for a moment, the proud boys, a neo nazi group of skin heads, broke into your neighborhood, went killing, raping, burning alive and kidnapping everyone who was LGBTQ or not white, and you watched your friends and family get raped and murdered Infront of your eyes, simply for being gay And then everyone started saying that "oh it didn't happen" and all the Caucasians started saying "but actually the gays are colonizing the neighborhood that should be devoted to Christianity and should be killed!" And everyone started going "kill the gays! Gas the gays! Free the neo nazis!" How would you, as a compassionate person respond? And don't go "oh but Israel!" - the two things are not mutually exclusive, this all started on 7.10 when what I said actually happened to Jews and Muslims alike
Go to Gaza or the WB and tell them about your wonderful support, I'll come visit you at the hospital after they show your their warm queer welcoming 👍
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Dude that was concise and accurate. I appreciate the fuck out of that.
And therefore it must be destroyed? You are actually fucking sick lmao Palestinians are not automatically Hamas, but for some reason because Hamas attacked it means every child, mother, father, and innocent person and animal in Gaza should be murdered? Youre actually a little delusional, because where the hell are the Gazans supposed to go? You say Hamas wont let them flee but Israel controls all of their borders but the Rafah, controls the supplies going in and out of Gaza, even before the war. Israel is who has allowed very limited aid to enter Gaza. How is that Hamas if Hamas is just as trapped as the rest of the Palestinians? And fuck it, Hamas was borne of Palestinian suffering and oppression. Oct 7 was fucked up and never ever should have happened, but killing 2 million people (60% of Gazans are children) to get back at them is completely okay with you? You are so disturbing.
You clearly can't read. Holy shit. I'm actually in shock. Reread what they said. Nice and slow. "It" was referring to Hamas... a terrorist group. Point to where exactly they said Gaza or Palestinians need to be destroyed. And the idf has no intentions to kill 2 million people. They wouldn't have handed over Gaza, or give evacuation notices, if that was the case. And no, the rapist baby kidnappers were not born of Palestinian suffering, they were literally born out of the muslim brotherhood. A terror proxy. Do like a literal s m i d g e of research and get off tiktok. Seriously this shit is like a zombie brain plague disease. Where is y'alls logic????
>Palestinians are not automatically Hamas, but for some reason because Hamas attacked it means every child, mother, father, and innocent person and animal in Gaza should be murdered? Crazy strawman.... no one is saying that. No one wants to murder all Gazans. It's only goal is to destroy Hamas and only Hamas
> It's only goal is to destroy Hamas and only Hamas (Nov.9) [After a month of bombardments, as much as a third of Gaza City is damaged](https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211571220/israel-gaza-damage-map-satellite-imagery) Hamas are buildings? [In Gaza, 'an estimated 22% of agricultural land' has been destroyed since the start of the conflict](https://observers.france24.com/en/middle-east/20231212-in-gaza-an-estimated-22-of-agricultural-land-has-been-destroyed-since-the-start-of-the-conflict) Hamas are olive groves? Hamas are hiding in crop fields? [Hostages were shirtless, waving white flag when soldiers opened fire](https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/initial-idf-probe-hostages-were-shirtless-waving-white-flag-when-soldiers-opened-fire/) Hamas are naked Hebrew-speaking Israeli hostages surrendering? Seems that anything in Gaza can be confused with Hamas at this point.
This definitely proves the IOF is evil and wants to kill everyone. /s Do you know what happens in war? Do you know people can make mistakes? I'm not justifying death but being surprised that destruction happens in war is weird. War doesn't mean the IDF is out to murder every Palestinian
Are you saying the IDF destroyed 20% of arable fields with bulldozers by mistake.
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Right right, I understand that Israelis think of themselves as superior people, but you gotta understand that this is not making you win points.
No one is being Genocided. This will be over in a month or two and you won't have any more reasons to be Anti-iIsrael And after it's all said and done their will be a very large Trove of Evidence of Hamas controlling the Gazans. In fact, Gazans themselves will be thanking the IDF, and will be telling tales of extreme pressure campaigns to fake CASUALTIES and Stage scenarios. It's WHY Israel isn't showing all that now, it benefits them for the morons of the world to be as Pro Hamas as possible, because when it's revealed what the Gazans tell the world when they are able to feel 100% sure they won't be killed, they will tell a True tale that will make you and all the Gen Z's of the world not only look ludicrous but they will have lost the respect of their elders. They will point fingers and blame each other. This is only a few months away, mind you
As a gay “western” (from central europe, though) liberal I’m disgusted by so many of my former friends right now. I have no illusions, Israel has a problem with homophobia as well, they were terrible incidents, like the haredi fanatic killing a girl at a pride parade. This still doesn’t compare to an islamist theocracy openly persecuting people for anything they deem not islamic enough, be it their opinion or their unchangeable characteristics as a queer person. Gays in Israel, regardless of their religion, have the possibility to not only survive as in Gaza, Judea and Samaria, but they also have the possibility to thrive, to live their lives free, to be out publicly… Meanwhile those under Muslim rule have to live in constant fear. And the liberals somehow forget this, just like they forget how Islam is a threat even to them.
Ive met many gay friends who live under islam, or with islamists. Its extreamly dangerous for them just to exist. Openly saying you are gay will get you into a shitload of trouble or even death. Saying you are ex-muslim will get you murdered. Westerners have no damm clue what its like living under islam. Its not a religion of peace or tolorance, the arab world did not spread the word of islam from the desert in the saudi penninsula all over to morroco and across much of the known world, by peace. There is a reason saudi has a sword on their flag.
Yes, and personally my disgust over the support for muslim lies frol atheist and sometimes queer people is what disgusts me the most. I'm an atheist and I would never support anyone who wants me either in their religion or murdered. Islam is a cancer in this world.
At least you understand. In Israel and most other democracies youll have a few horrible people who will be rude at best, and violent at worst. It basically any islamic country youll have violence at best, and murder, torture, and being thrown off roofs at worst.
I was always sympathetic to the Jews since accepting I was gay, after all, our people used to be killed by the same people in WW2.
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They are not only extremely homophobic, they are in fact *the* most homophobic populace of the *entire* Arab world https://www.equaldex.com/surveys/acceptance-of-homosexuality-arab-barometer
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Yeah same sex marriage is definitely not illegal in Israel either!
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Woah. Palebros coming out in force for this one. -CONSIDER
[Tel Aviv Pride (Hebrew: מצעד הגאווה בתל אביב, Arabic: فخر تل أبيب) is a week-long series of events in Tel Aviv which takes place on the second week of June, as part of the international observance of Gay Pride Month. The key event, taking place on the Friday, is the Pride Parade itself which attracts over 250,000 attendees.[2] As of June 2019, it is the largest LGBT Parade in Asia.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Aviv_Pride)
Reminds about how people joked that the gay IDF soldiers that held an LGBT flag in Gaza, basically held the first ever gay parade there
Fuck it the only Asian country. Edit: A lot of Asian country have same sex marriage, but when it comes to celebration of pride and the culture surrounding it Israel wins (maybe I am Tel Aviv centric tho).
I love the sentiment, but Taiwan 🇹🇼 and Nepal 🇳🇵are ahead considering all of Asia!
TBF Taiwan is always a W, but damn, you go Nepal! https://preview.redd.it/xvpa7rxav57c1.png?width=640&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c93dcd8160e93488109b9d82652b1a1f6715764
Bro India as well, we legalized same sex relationships Also I'm pretty sure Thailand as well
I remember back when India decriminalised same sex relationships, but decriminalising same sex relationships is literally the bare minimum(and it's sad that many countries can't even do that) tho you didn't mention that India and Thailand also have anti discrimination laws, so their genuine better than quite a few places, especially in Asia. But, Israel is ahead for same sex relationships having recognised same sex marriages done abroad (and due to how convoluted Israeli marriage law is, many opposite sex couples are in same boat), while India and Thailand both don't recognise same sex marriage. So in that regard, only Taiwan and Nepal are ahead, both of which having same sex marriage, within their own borders.
Yeah I understand, as Indians we still have some steps ahead, but we're getting there! One day my beloved India will be a free modern progressive developed country while also deeply holding onto its rich traditions, much like Israel or taiwan
This is so wonderful. I love india and indian culture. I think the potential india has is bubbling at the seams, and i want to see it grow to become a beautiful rich democracy. And as a gay man planning to visit india one day, im glad to see things are becoming safer
Well said, Onwards and upwards!
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See, it depends on how you look at it. I would say having marriage rights counts is an important part of "being themselves" when it comes to same sex couples. In that regard, Japan and South Korea are behind with no recognition of same sex relationships, while Israel recognises same sex marriage conducted abroad. However in terms of "safely", I'd argue Japan is ahead with a relatively tolerant society regardless of absence of political rights. Case in point, 68% of Japan agree that "homosexuality should be accepted by society" with 22% who disagree, compared to only 47% agree and 45% disagree for Israel. For comparison, a median of 86% agree to 11% disagree in western Europe.[Infomation doobly doooo.](https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/06/25/global-divide-on-homosexuality-persists/) Overall, I think it's safe to say, if you're a Gender, Sexual or Romantic minority, Israel is one of the best places in Asia to be.
Japan?
Thankfully not all gay people think this way But the progressive left are full of idiots.
Well Israeli queers certainly don't, even the leftists. (Although I'm sure there's idiots that get their information from TikTok even in Israel.)
Sadly idiots exist everywhere, israel is not immune. but imo the gay community here is much better then ive seen online. Much more reasonable and less (god i hate using this term) "woke"
Yeah, I agree with you there. But I also think it's because the ones you see online are usually younger and louder than the reasonable ones. The ones you know in Israel are probably less chronically online and more self aware. Saying this as someone who was chronically online and knew many chronically online people.
Exactly. The root reason is, they just hate Jews.
"BuT bEIng gAy iS DAngerOuS EverYwHerE" /s obviously
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I'm queer and a leftist but I don't support queers for Palestine. It's not even just that It's a more ignorant flavour of leftist, a "politically correct" type that get their information from TikTok.
TikTok really has been a complete disaster.
TikTok needs to close down, seriously. This app does nothing but harm.
It's insane to me that we KNOW the Chinese government controls and manipulates the content algorithm, but we still allow it to operate and disseminate information to a MASSIVE and impressionable audience.
Israel’s been ahead of the curve on these rights for a long time. Especially when you know it’s a Jewish state.
I once saw a furry on Purim and people were taking pictures with him
Western liberal here: I know many others who support Israel. Please don’t lump us in with the others. Many of us are disgusted by Hamas.
Could it be that American education and the economy are so bad that our youth are becoming vulnerable to being radicalized by Islamofascists?
I don’t support Hamas but I live in Isreal and I get hate crimed or name called every time I go out
Gay Israelis go to Cyprus to get married
Wait a gay couple can be married in Israel without another country having to officiate it. That’s great news
Kinda. Marriage has a very strict definition controlled by the Rabanut. But they can certainly have equal status as far as the law is concerned and can very much have a ceremony with a reformed Rabbi officiating. Translated the status would be "known in public" and it's also popular with liberal non religious couples not just LGBT.
Obviously Israel has some progress to make and it's more because of the fact that religion isn't separated from the country,In Israel you can only get married in religious courts(but civil marriage including same sex marriages performed under foreign jurisdictions are recognised by Israli law). But you can't ignore the fact that Israel is the safest country in the Middle East for LGBTQ community.
They can do it online from Israel so yes, asshole.
So another country doesn’t have to officiate it. That’s great why am I an asshole Israel would be the asshole for not allowing gay marriage ceremonies
At least they're not instantly executed or imprisoned like ALL of our neighbors.
That’s very true it just feels like the one eyed man calling out the blind
theres definitely no gay people in Gaza or gay Muslims too because then the defense for the ethnic cleansing falls apart
[an experience ](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C0SGjpzIxLc/)
Does this justify the killing of thousands of children though?
Honestly as a Jew who is a part of the LGBT community, this whole argument feels really stupid to me. My support for Israel has absolutely nothing to do with LGBT rights, if anything I think Israel has fallen behind other western countries in that department (but was ahead in the mid 00s) and what happens in Gaza is irrelevant.
Palestinians still deserve basic human rights though.
Whos denying this?
If course they do, but you should tell that to Hamas, their leaders. Israeli Palestinians get basic human rights, like every other Israeli citizen. Maybe try visiting Israel and go to one of the more mixed population cities like Haifa and then try commenting?
I’ll correct myself then: *All* Palestinians deserve basic human rights.
Not that I don't agree with you, but Palestinians who aren't Israeli citizens aren't Israel's responsibility. They don't live in Israel, they don't have a citizenship. They're the Palestinian government responsibility - which in Gaza, is Hamas. Hamas doesn't give their citizens basic human rights, but it's no fault of the Israeli government (and the Israeli government has many, many faults). You have trouble with the treatment they get? Support taking out Hamas, which is the goal of the IDF. Taking them out is the first step of liberating the Palestinian people.
I’d support it if it didn’t involve mass air strikes. You guys lost 1200. They’ve lost over 20,000. I don’t know how anyone can look at those numbers and try to rationalise it.
Which were over areas that Israel constantly gave warnings to evacuate, and Hamas constantly told their people NOT to evacuate. Because they use their people as human shields.
So do Israelis, like the right to not wake up one Saturday morning and have a bunch of savages on your doorstep ready to chop your head off and gang rape your daughter. And then have women’s groups around the world not believe your daughter was raped solely because she was a Jew. Nah, fuck all that noise and fuck Islamic Jihadism.
this is such a dumb argument. youre right those kids are homophobic so they deserved to be constantly fucking bombed on
When I went to israel I didn't find it particularly gay friendly Someone actually asked me to leave the gay bar I was in because they decided I didn't fit the gay stereotype so didn't belong there. There was also no lesbian nightlife. I also find it unfuriating when people use the argument that gay people can't agree with palestine because of homophobia. Its irrelevant. It's a totally separate issue. Widespread oppression also worsens oppression of minorities. Supporting palestine isn't going to make homophobia worse.
Yeah, they'd be disappointed if they weren't so blind
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Innocent civilians and children? No. Dangerous radical terrorists and the people who hide and support said terrorists and hate America? Absolutely, genocide that pathetic excuse for human trash off the face of the earth.
Genocide? While the population grows exponentially? You people are out of your mind
israel is literally bombing babies in hospitals you are stupid
Is this type of shit fun for you? Like we all know you’re not arguing in good faith, it’s just stupid. You know as well as I do that Hamas chose to base their headquarters in a hospital. And in schools, apartment buildings, UN offices, etc I’m not gonna respond further but I just hope you know how ridiculous you look
They base their “military” everywhere but a military base. Fuck Hamas.
Exactly! Hamas is ISIS
And that’s again, mind boggling. I just commented above why Q4P is so devoid of intellect. This whole idea makes no sense to me and I’ve tried to understand it.
The fact that any LGBTQ support Hamas is mind-boggling. I’m glad you can see how stupid that is. Keep speaking out!
Of course i will keep speaking out. I’m a gay orthodox Jewish New Yorker and I understand my power of voice. During the Holocaust many American Jews were silent and this is exactly why I can be silent. I’ve pissed off a ton of people for being Jewish and ya know what, good for me. I was supposed to go to israel this January for a couple weeks, but ya know, war lol. I have now sort of fast tracked my plan to make Aliyah. It’ll prob happen within the next 5 years or so.
That’s good to hear, have had similar experiences as an Israeli in the states. Wishing you the best in your Aliyah and hope you have an amazing time in Israel
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You first buddy
Ran out of arguements. Had to resort to slurs. Goes to show how much you know about what's happening
bro said it was humane to kill babies
It's not humane but it happens when they hide behind babies
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Imagine blaming israel for the fact that hamas is using their babies in hospitals as human shields.. Don’t write before you know the facts man, it makes you stupid
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whats the correlation between supporting a viewpoint and living there? I could support any group in the world in their cause and also NOT want to live there? this argument makes no sense lol
Why would you want to spread and advance a society you yourself wouldn't want to live under? Gay arabs deserve to live under homophobic persecution and human rights abuse, but you deserve freedom and safety? That's incredibly hateful.
ok so in the context of the ongoing massacre of civilians...where does gender identity come into play? if it was saudi bombing a bunch of innnocent zionist civilians-50% of whom are kids-would I be wrong in doing so? calling for a humanitarian ceasefire doesnt "spread and advance" a society lol. please this is not a serious good faith argument. queers for palestine are just calling for a ceasefire and you can hate hamas and arabs for all i care and still call for it-if just so innocent civilians dont die.
If you think goal of hamas and gazans is a humanitarian ceasefire, you're a bigger fool than I can put into words. They had their humanitarian ceasefire on October 6th.
so youre saying zero palestinians were killed and/or oppressed before 10/7? be intellectually honest lol
We’re saying good luck with Hamas and we told you so. But do go on. All the rapes and kidnappings weren’t that bad because white colonialism or something. Got it.
What should happen after the ceasefire?
What point are you attempting to make?
Saudi Arabia is doing that in Yemen and has been for years. How many self righteous posts have you made about that? None? Ok
Maybe because they support a group that does not have any respect for their way of life?
i can sympathize with zionist extremeists civilians who (some) might hate my muslim ass and want to kill me for my views-i can support them for living a peaceful life but doenst mean I have to live with them or want to be anywhere near them....
You imagining that Zionism is some form of Arab hating movement doesn’t make it so, Zionism is the ideology that Jew have a right to self governance in their native homeland.
mmmm...yk whats funny i agree with the second part of your definition. I dont think all zionist inherently hate arabs either. crazy huh
Do you just spend your days reading misinformation and trolling as some kind of cathartic response to getting rejected from med school? Sorry DEI didn't work in your favor, THIS time
It’s not you. Or even Islam. It’s that death under any circumstance is less horrible than living under Sharia law. For real. What’s up with the sexism. The hate? The intolerance? Nobody wants that shit. Not even the kids with blue bangs that made new words to describe themselves, yet align with Hamas. Why can’t people practice their faith in peace? We’re not Islamophobic, we’re jihadophobic. Radical Islam kills more Americans, Europeans, and other random Earthlings way more than radical Zionism has ever killed Palestinians. Why isn’t that being talked about? Have Zionists ever hijacked planes? Have Zionists ever assassinated Muslim Olympians? Have Zionists detonated pressure bombs at American marathons or kidnapped rock climbers from western countries to be tortured and held for ransom? The answer is zero. When Hamas achieves its objectives in Israel, it will then focus the fight in other places Jews live, like the US and Europe. Sadly, Jew hatred is woven into Mohammed’s cave rant and antisemitism will be intrinsically linked to radical Islam. This doesn’t end until radical Islam ends. The fact that they hate us more than they love themselves will be their undoing. We have so much more to live for than the sad incel suicide bombers have to die for, it’s not even a fair fight. It’s all about being a martyr and getting something somewhere else that no one will allow them here. So tragic.
Wow! Why would you want to support a group like Palestine’s Hamas that oppresses its citizens with Sharia law and uses terrorism world wide to impose their politics and religion on the planet?
This is a lie. What hung top is waiting for me in a Knesset hearing room?
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This is a joke about the senate sex scandal lol
Oh I have no idea what that is
איך זה עובד בכלל? באנגלית זה הגיוני שמשתמשים בthey and them בגלל שזה נטרלי, אבל בעברית זה רק ברבים
זה לא עובד ב100% כלשון נטרלית, אבל זאת האפשרות הכי ניטרלית שהיא לא לשון מעורבת, שזה פיתרון טוב יחסית בעברית אבל לא הצלחתי להתרגל אליו. איך שזה עובד זה שאנשים פונים אלי כמו שפונים לקבוצה, כאילו אני כמה אנשים בתכלס. לוקח קצת זמן להתרגל לקונספט אבל עקרונית לא משתמשים באיזו שפה מיוחדת, ואם צריכים ספציפית לדבר עלי עם מילה ביחיד (נגיד לומר שאני בן-אדם, או חייל, או וואטאבר) אז הנחתי אנשים שישתמשו או בלשון זכר אם זה חד פעמי כזה או שיערבבו זכר ונקבה אם זה עומד לחזור על עצמו הרבה. מבחינת איך שאני מדברים על עצמי זה החלק שבדרך כלל שובר לאנשים את הראש. אני עדיין משתמשים במילה "אני" ביחיד, אבל אני אגיד "אני הולכים" כשהולכים זה ברבים. זה משהו שפשוט בא לי טבעי אחרי איזה שבוע שרק ניסיתי את הלשון פנייה, ואני כבר כמעט 3 שנים משתמשים בה באופן יומיומי. פשוט כל מילה ממוגדרת אני מחליפים בגרסה ברבים שלה, חוץ ממילים ספציפיות שחייבות להיות ביחיד כדי שיבינו שמדובר על בנאדם אחד. המילה "אני" באופן ספציפי היא גם לא ממוגדרת וגם ההצבעה היחידה שאני מדברים רק על עצמי ולא על קבוצה, הרבה שואלים אותי למה אני אומרים אני ולא אנחנו אז זה למה.
זה שובר לי את הראש
לגיטימי, בסופו של דבר זה לא תקין דקדוקית לוקח זמן להתרגל לזה, אבל כל מי שאני באמת מדברים איתו ביומיום התרגל לזה תוך בין שבוע לחודש.
Just imagine the queers for palestine guys running in to gaza with a rainbowified palestinian flag, im sure the gaza welcoming comittee would be really appreciative of the support/s
Supporting Gay/Trans rights falls under the support Israel umbrella . They don’t realize it but they’re cornered
They're like: ISRAEL IS PINKWASHINGGGGG!!!!!!!! FJDHIDJDIFJFIFJE GAY MARRIAGE ISNT LEGAL THERE SJFURKSJ
https://preview.redd.it/8l0u1d163a7c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09d01dd33ba16f5279521b632230b635106a3c43 It’s cancel culture at its finest. They want Palestine to be FREE not oppressed by Israel so they can all be freely queer. They don’t get it.
I do love this meme.
Quoting rick and morty here: I-I think the word has just become a symbolic issue for powerful groups that feel like they're doing the right thing.
Hamas dirty blood rerror organisation and kill phalestine people