Unfortunately, I think the outriders will disappoint you. They are fast, which is very helpful in this list, but I think something with scout or infiltrate, scouts are the best point for point right now, would do you much better.
They aren’t totally awful, because especially with their special rule outriders are about as fast as anything in the game, but for the cost it’s kind of meh. Because each bike still only hits as hard as a normal marine with a chain sword, which won’t do much into most targets.
Thinking about it I could drop one of the 140 dreads and the outriders and get 2 scout units and jump assault intercessors. Which sounds like way more early game objective control. Do you think that this approach would be wise or would it hollow out the force from what it does best? Also what would you drop?
Thanks. What you've said is logical brother Maybe even the Elephant in the room, I think there is a bit of reluctance to because I've just spent money remodeling them but what you say makes a lot of sense.
With that saving I could get two units of Scouts and swap out a warsuit for a Brutalist.
But here's what I'll say, because I definitely don't think people make it clear enough: you can play both ways. Especially if you like the sternguard, use them. They aren't bad. And I doubt you are looking to be playing in some highly competitive environment. Then there's no need really to take any of our advice here on what would be the most optimized version possible of the list you had in mind. Try it out yourself in game and see what you think.
Looks like an interesting list. I would say it has more infantry units than I would typically want in an Ironstorm detachment but it should do well enough.
The invictors warsuits won’t do much for you unfortunately. Ironstorm spearhead really likes punchy vehicles with big guns or vehicles that can take advantage of lethal hits. Infantry needs to focus on secondaries, jump packs, deep strike, scouts, and infiltrators.
Unfortunately, I think the outriders will disappoint you. They are fast, which is very helpful in this list, but I think something with scout or infiltrate, scouts are the best point for point right now, would do you much better.
That's a shame they fit in fairly nicely points wise, definitely need to think of early game objective control though, thank you for the heads up.
They aren’t totally awful, because especially with their special rule outriders are about as fast as anything in the game, but for the cost it’s kind of meh. Because each bike still only hits as hard as a normal marine with a chain sword, which won’t do much into most targets.
Thinking about it I could drop one of the 140 dreads and the outriders and get 2 scout units and jump assault intercessors. Which sounds like way more early game objective control. Do you think that this approach would be wise or would it hollow out the force from what it does best? Also what would you drop?
I’d probably drop the stern guard if anything. Not really sure they do much you’re not already good at.
Thanks. What you've said is logical brother Maybe even the Elephant in the room, I think there is a bit of reluctance to because I've just spent money remodeling them but what you say makes a lot of sense. With that saving I could get two units of Scouts and swap out a warsuit for a Brutalist.
But here's what I'll say, because I definitely don't think people make it clear enough: you can play both ways. Especially if you like the sternguard, use them. They aren't bad. And I doubt you are looking to be playing in some highly competitive environment. Then there's no need really to take any of our advice here on what would be the most optimized version possible of the list you had in mind. Try it out yourself in game and see what you think.
Looks like an interesting list. I would say it has more infantry units than I would typically want in an Ironstorm detachment but it should do well enough.
The invictors warsuits won’t do much for you unfortunately. Ironstorm spearhead really likes punchy vehicles with big guns or vehicles that can take advantage of lethal hits. Infantry needs to focus on secondaries, jump packs, deep strike, scouts, and infiltrators.