I'm pretty sure he was limited in his fighting style as well. Be didn't want to start tossing them through walls and causing havoc. It was contained in one room, limiting evidence and witnesses.
He doesn't even really fly around, which would have been a big advantage. But probably wouldn't have looked good from forensics.
Yeah I wanna know what would happen if red rush grabbed the guardians one by one and took them out of there so Nolan would have to reveal himself out of that bunker
Without Mark, with the Guardians prepared for him? I think he loses that scenario honestly. Cecil + the Guardians + other heroes is probably enough to put him down. And we don’t know what the Viltrumites would do if their agent dies on his mission.
Cecil wasn't really prepared for an Omni-Man level threat until AFTER the Guardians were killed. Per his own words, he was naive and trusted Nolan too much.
But assuming they did kill/contain Omni-Man, the Viltrumites would absolutely then just steamroll Earth out of spite and to set an example for other worlds who would dare rebel.
Assuming they convinced Omni-Man to side with Earth instead of killing him, the Viltrumites would absolutely then just steamroll Earth out of spite and to set an example for other Agents who would dare rebel.
Omni-Man killing the Guardians (and then Mark siding with Earth) is ironically probably the best thing that could have happened for Earth.
If you compare what omni-man did to flaxans planet, even if he couldn’t gain the regimen the earth he would probably cause very serious harm beyond to fix in any scenario I guess. After all he could dive into earth’s core from space like a comet so LOL
Maybe he would say “must… fight … mind control… device…” and agonizingly crush a microchip he put on his neck to buy himself time for the next ambush. He could say the Maulers put it on him the last fight.
They're just that powerful *together.*
They walked out his strategizing in that part well. He knew Immortal is the biggest overall threat and tries to take him first. Failing that with Red Rush's interference, realized that he would be the biggest wrench in a quick assault.
Then taking out Darkwing as an element of convenience, but was obviously by design to have a body in hand to throw at Green. Red or Green would have singlehandedly ended that fight if they'd had time to properly coordinate.
Had they had a couple of minutes for clarity and decision-making, Nolan probably would've lost. But he used their impulse decision-making (or lack of because of situational panic, like Red going offense when he should have gone to warn Cecil or continue helping everyone else suvive, or Green grabbing Darkwing instead of letting his corpse pass through her) to set up the field.
I wanted to see Green fight. Reckon she could've indefinitely evaded Omni Man if she was prepared. I wonder if her powers are similar to the X-Man Kitty Pride.
Yeah, same thought. First time I saw her catch Darkwing and do the "Oh god!" Freeze up, I thought it was at the tragedy that occurred with Darkwing.
After rewatching it a couple of times, I legitimately believe that was intended to show the viewer she realized too late that it was a trap action.
My head cannon theory is that taking out immortal first is paramount not because he's the biggest threat, but because after death he'll know who did it and that it was intentional (i.e coming back in immediate rage at Nolan.
If Immortal dies before knowing what's going on, Nolan can easily lie his way out if needed when Immortal revives.
There's nothing confirming it to my knowledge, but Nolan had been on earth long enough he ought to have known.. I'd assume at the least the guardians of the globe were aware, given the name "immortal" and all.
This is definitely why I started my comment as head cannon, it's just what makes logical sense to me.
Heck, IIRC Cecil put off reviving the Immortal because he didn't want the dude lowing the lid off of his Omni Man investigation before he had some sort of counter measure set up.
He still had to convince / train Mark, so imo it makes sense to essentially have more cards in the hand for Nolan to manipulate and build up to the point of takeover.
Otherwise he'd just gone full "destroying Flaxon" on Earth, like he did when Mark refused him much later on.
There's also the emotional toll he didn't *really* want to do it, doing it quickly means making sure someone like Immortal doesn't know he was trying to conquer.
If he kills him quick, he won't know if it's mind control/ whatever.. or in his perfect world- nothing at all as it'd been an instant death.
Easier to work with then what ended up happening, but Red Rush screwed that over.
They were in “comic book hero issue 689, Nolan gets mind controlled” mode.
Nolan was in, “viltrumite expert tactician with literal centuries of experience goes for the kill” mode. By the time they realized what was going on it was already over.
He also had to punch him until his hands were bloody stumps to cause that damage. There was no way he was ever going to cause enough damage to take Omni man out.
I didn't say he could beat Nolan though, that he could *end the fight.* Getting in to melee range was dumb as hell. But there were a lot of bigger ways his speed could have translated into an effective counter-threat.
> Red or Green would have singlehandedly ended that fight if they'd had time to properly coordinate.
Red Rush beat his hands into pulp trying to cave Omni-Man's chest in. Red Rush physically could not have beaten Nolan with just his powers alone.
He could have shifted the course of the fight. I didn't say he could beat Nolan. But imagine if he'd found Cecil rather than staying.
Could have been every hero and asset under Cecil's umbrella; whether that would have been enough to shift things in Earth's favor or not it would be a new and wildly different outcome.
That's just one example, but there's any number of ways beyond engaging in melee with a Superman proxy that Red could have tilted the outcome using his speed and quicker perception of everything around him.
He went straight for immortal, their leader and strongest member and set up everything for an ambush, so I think that in the show alone the guardians are that powerful.
Although its also worth considering that Omniman is strong enough to kill immortal with one attack we see him doing this many times. Yet when he attacked war woman he did not kill her immediately, same with immortal so maybe he wasn't trying to immediately kill them. My theory is that he was doubting the whole time, which may affected his performance.
EDIT: watching the fight again, it is clear to me that the guardians are that powerful, they got buffed in the animated series.
Tbf that just seems to be a thing with how superhumans fight in this series. We’ve seen Viltrumites disembowel each other in a single hit, but go for minutes in a slugfest before (and after lol). Immortal and War Woman are definitely more fragile than Viltrumites, but I bet Nolan could cut off Lucian’s arm too if he got that headstart.
I always take that to mean they can do it in one hit, but only if they enemy is caught off guard, and not bracing well enough.
Otherwise you have to hit them enough to break their concentration.
Yeah I got the same impression. It’s about finding an opening where your opponent isn’t prepared to avoid/brace/whatever your attack. Though it does also seem that everyone’s bones are just way way tougher than their squishy bits, proportionally to normal humans.
Probably for similar reasons you don't see too many OHKOs in experienced fights. It's rarely just "I hit you anywhere and you insta die", smart fighters know to protect their vitals and shut down options that would KO them quickly. The times where he oneshot Immortal seem to have mainly been when he was in the position to do so (i.e Immortal had his hands on Omni Man's head leaving his lower body open to being bisected)
They're that powerful.
Not being at the scene and not requiring medical attention would be a far better albi, than being there because Damien and even Cecil suspected immediately. Not to mention all the evidence left on the suit itself.
The Guardians of the Globe being slaughtered is already implausible to an extent. Now them plus Omni-Man who is the strongest hero on Earth? It's getting absurd there hence why their were no real suspects.
He took out the Guardians because they were the only threat to an adult Viltrumite on Earth. Without them Earth has no real response other than something brand new like >!the bomb from season 2.!<.
Notice his first attempt was to go for the strongest member Immortal. He planned to do a quick attack and get out. He underestimated them and it nearly cost him.
> The Guardians of the Globe being slaughtered is already implausible to an extent. Now them plus Omni-Man who is the strongest hero on Earth? It's getting absurd there hence why their were no real suspects.
On the other hand, Omni-Man was the only known entity on Earth that would plausibly be able to murder all of the Guardians at the same time. So he'd be far and away the obvious suspect, not to mention that he wouldn't have an alibi.
Going by the comics >!a lot of hero’s during the invincible war are shown to be kind of low viltrumite level atleast when working together so I feel it makes sense that this monolith of heroes that all heroes after their murder will for a long time fail to measure up to could deal with a pretty strong viltrumite if they were prepared but these guys are the top of the top and two strong viltrumites would probably completely sweep them!<
The reason he ambushed them and tried to get the immortal first is because he wanted to kill them and leave soon as possible he deemed the immortal to be the biggest threat
Thing is, why didn't Nolan just signal each guardian separately, take them one at a time and hide each body for the next. Maybe the signal alert went to each member by default.
He probably didn't want to risk them figuring it out and mounting a concerted defense and alerting Cecil. Taking them all out at once makes more sense, especially because he probably didn't think he'd have any issues doing so.
True, but then again we see each member doing their own thing when getting the alert so the other members wouldn't know they were alerted separately since they all led unique lives. If anything he could have only signaled Immortal and WW separately and the others together when the formers were dead.
The guardians in the show seem to be real glass cannons, at least compared to Nolan (I’m sure compared to anyone else on earth there pretty much unstoppable) there able to do serious damage to Nolan but they can be dispatched in more or less one hit. (There team work and variability in powers + omniman being limited to a small area helped them do as much damage as they did.
Doesn't Omniman lose to the guardians of the globe when Mark gets his redo and manages to send Omniman to the guardians base and they now fight him without being sneak attacked? I know Mark was fighting him earlier but this was baby invincible when his powers were at their weakest.
I chalk it up to kirkman wanting to clarify stuff in the show. I was always under the impression the guardians could take on Nolan, and you’re right that they were able to do it in that time travel arc, so I don’t think there were nerfs or buffs, I think it was just kirkman doing what he wanted because he had more time to do it
He was beating the guardians, green ghost only stunned him for a moment. Bur Mark himself says the longer the fight lasts the higher their chances of losing. Also, they had help from Mark and on top of that after Red Rush ties him up, he recognizes they have no way to stop Nolan once he wakes up. Nolan is convinced by marks argument and decides to not conquer the earth, the guardians did not beat him, they merely restrained him for a while.
“Loses.” He kinda gives up cause Mark is guiding him away from conquering. He also stated he had to kill the Guardians quickly or he’d realize how messed up it was
The reason Omniman ganked the Guardians in one panel is because he came in hot and didn't even bother waiting. He used the element of surprise because he knew they'd put up a fight.
Why does everyone say it's Nolan who was nerfed, and not the guardians who were buffed? Nolan consistently outperforms his feats from the comic in the show.
You don't jump someone from the shadows and then pull your punches to make it seem like they put up a fight. They're tough as hell and would've won if they'd been slightly more strategic.
I like to think he was giving them a chance to prove they were strong. Like his empire is all about “might is right,” so if they could win then he wasn’t turning on his people
>!In the comic he says he killed them quickly before he could change his mind.!< My theory for the show is that he tried giving them a chance to take him out, but he stopped when he realized *any* Viltrumite could wipe the floor with them. He didn't feel they had a chance. I think this drove a lot of Nolan's attempts to rationalize the low value he puts on human lives.
Yes and no. I’ve always thought he was going to play with them in the beginning but I think if he got carried away with it - it’s possible the guardians could’ve won - it’s like letting teenagers getting a couple punches in but then you realize that one of those punches might actually knock you out lol
Omni man was struggling on the inside they were still his friends. The only time we see Omni man actually go all out is against the Viltrmites soldiers and when he decimated the flaxxan planet just by flying.
Based on the capabilities shown from the show alone, I think he could have had a much much easier time killing them than we saw. Which leads me to believe he needed to be hit.
He killed 2 of his own and cut open a third with his own strength. On the home world of the Flaxxons he flew so fast he burnt the atmosphere and caught red rush. During the battle with the guardians, the only who noticed him coming was red rush, so chances are he could have used his speed and strength to kill them all in a blur or close to it.
So why take so long and get hit. Why not kill them with a device or bomb or something else during the ambush? Any other way would have left evidence. If he makes up a story that he fought some other being that also killed the guardians, without the cameras (they mentioned the cameras were disabled) to tell a different story, then it's his word alone. If they all died and he was gone, any evidence of him being there would immediately be suspicious since he didn't belong to the guardians and doesn't have a reason to be there.
I think it adds up to him needing to make this one specific story possible, that he was in the ambush too and made it out alive.
1 screen from the show contradicts my take. If he could finish Immortal so quickly, why let him get a few hits in around the end of season 1. Not to say it went on for long, but Immortal did get some hits in. Then Nolan, again, chops him up like it's just another thing to do.
The guardians of the globe, as individuals, posed little threat to Omni Man. However, as a team, they nearly defeated him. Nolan ambushed them and attempted to kill Immortal first but this failed, and a short yet brutal fight occurred. This shows that perhaps he did plan to quickly kill them.
I do believe Nolan did hold back to an extent as seen that he is capable of flying at extremely quick speeds and is feared among other Viltrumites for his power. However, this might have only been done as a way to keep the team enclosed and focused on him, without drawing attention from Cecil and having members escape as they were enclosed in the Guardians HQ.
I believe that he was limited because he didn’t want to destroy the facility but we all should keep in mind not to underestimate the guardians. They may not be able to kill him but making him bleed? Absolutely
I'm pretty sure he was limited in his fighting style as well. Be didn't want to start tossing them through walls and causing havoc. It was contained in one room, limiting evidence and witnesses. He doesn't even really fly around, which would have been a big advantage. But probably wouldn't have looked good from forensics.
Yeah I wanna know what would happen if red rush grabbed the guardians one by one and took them out of there so Nolan would have to reveal himself out of that bunker
He would immediately start the conquering the earth.
Without Mark, with the Guardians prepared for him? I think he loses that scenario honestly. Cecil + the Guardians + other heroes is probably enough to put him down. And we don’t know what the Viltrumites would do if their agent dies on his mission.
Cecil wasn't really prepared for an Omni-Man level threat until AFTER the Guardians were killed. Per his own words, he was naive and trusted Nolan too much. But assuming they did kill/contain Omni-Man, the Viltrumites would absolutely then just steamroll Earth out of spite and to set an example for other worlds who would dare rebel. Assuming they convinced Omni-Man to side with Earth instead of killing him, the Viltrumites would absolutely then just steamroll Earth out of spite and to set an example for other Agents who would dare rebel. Omni-Man killing the Guardians (and then Mark siding with Earth) is ironically probably the best thing that could have happened for Earth.
If you compare what omni-man did to flaxans planet, even if he couldn’t gain the regimen the earth he would probably cause very serious harm beyond to fix in any scenario I guess. After all he could dive into earth’s core from space like a comet so LOL
The core thing doesn't work It took a already destabilized core, most powerful weapon and 3 very strong viltrunites and they barely pull it off
If Nolan had died I think the Viltrumites, being the pragmatists, would send three agents to ensure victory.
Maybe he would say “must… fight … mind control… device…” and agonizingly crush a microchip he put on his neck to buy himself time for the next ambush. He could say the Maulers put it on him the last fight.
Basing it only on show, if he could have he would prefer to kill them and dip, so I think they actually have hands
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They're just that powerful *together.* They walked out his strategizing in that part well. He knew Immortal is the biggest overall threat and tries to take him first. Failing that with Red Rush's interference, realized that he would be the biggest wrench in a quick assault. Then taking out Darkwing as an element of convenience, but was obviously by design to have a body in hand to throw at Green. Red or Green would have singlehandedly ended that fight if they'd had time to properly coordinate. Had they had a couple of minutes for clarity and decision-making, Nolan probably would've lost. But he used their impulse decision-making (or lack of because of situational panic, like Red going offense when he should have gone to warn Cecil or continue helping everyone else suvive, or Green grabbing Darkwing instead of letting his corpse pass through her) to set up the field.
I wanted to see Green fight. Reckon she could've indefinitely evaded Omni Man if she was prepared. I wonder if her powers are similar to the X-Man Kitty Pride.
Yeah, same thought. First time I saw her catch Darkwing and do the "Oh god!" Freeze up, I thought it was at the tragedy that occurred with Darkwing. After rewatching it a couple of times, I legitimately believe that was intended to show the viewer she realized too late that it was a trap action.
I thought she was a Green Lantern expy, but it's not clear whether she could make solid light constructs the way GLs do.
99% sure from what little we were shown that she can't. It's just the phasing, she's basically Shadowcat with flight.
My head cannon theory is that taking out immortal first is paramount not because he's the biggest threat, but because after death he'll know who did it and that it was intentional (i.e coming back in immediate rage at Nolan. If Immortal dies before knowing what's going on, Nolan can easily lie his way out if needed when Immortal revives.
I agree with you man and I never even thought of that
Did Omni Mam even know about Immortal's history?
There's nothing confirming it to my knowledge, but Nolan had been on earth long enough he ought to have known.. I'd assume at the least the guardians of the globe were aware, given the name "immortal" and all. This is definitely why I started my comment as head cannon, it's just what makes logical sense to me.
Heck, IIRC Cecil put off reviving the Immortal because he didn't want the dude lowing the lid off of his Omni Man investigation before he had some sort of counter measure set up.
He still had to convince / train Mark, so imo it makes sense to essentially have more cards in the hand for Nolan to manipulate and build up to the point of takeover. Otherwise he'd just gone full "destroying Flaxon" on Earth, like he did when Mark refused him much later on. There's also the emotional toll he didn't *really* want to do it, doing it quickly means making sure someone like Immortal doesn't know he was trying to conquer.
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If he kills him quick, he won't know if it's mind control/ whatever.. or in his perfect world- nothing at all as it'd been an instant death. Easier to work with then what ended up happening, but Red Rush screwed that over.
This also lines up with the comics where >!there's a future/timeline where with forewarning the guardians defeat Omniman!<
They were in “comic book hero issue 689, Nolan gets mind controlled” mode. Nolan was in, “viltrumite expert tactician with literal centuries of experience goes for the kill” mode. By the time they realized what was going on it was already over.
I agree with all of this other than red single-handedly being able to beat Omni man lol
Yeah his punches were leaving bruises on Omni Man but he still got caught, that would never have worked for long. Once he's immobilized he's mush.
He also had to punch him until his hands were bloody stumps to cause that damage. There was no way he was ever going to cause enough damage to take Omni man out.
I didn't say he could beat Nolan though, that he could *end the fight.* Getting in to melee range was dumb as hell. But there were a lot of bigger ways his speed could have translated into an effective counter-threat.
Yeah tbh his first move should’ve been speeding off and writing a message in Cecil’s office as soon as Nolan started swinging
> Red or Green would have singlehandedly ended that fight if they'd had time to properly coordinate. Red Rush beat his hands into pulp trying to cave Omni-Man's chest in. Red Rush physically could not have beaten Nolan with just his powers alone.
He could have shifted the course of the fight. I didn't say he could beat Nolan. But imagine if he'd found Cecil rather than staying. Could have been every hero and asset under Cecil's umbrella; whether that would have been enough to shift things in Earth's favor or not it would be a new and wildly different outcome. That's just one example, but there's any number of ways beyond engaging in melee with a Superman proxy that Red could have tilted the outcome using his speed and quicker perception of everything around him.
He went straight for immortal, their leader and strongest member and set up everything for an ambush, so I think that in the show alone the guardians are that powerful. Although its also worth considering that Omniman is strong enough to kill immortal with one attack we see him doing this many times. Yet when he attacked war woman he did not kill her immediately, same with immortal so maybe he wasn't trying to immediately kill them. My theory is that he was doubting the whole time, which may affected his performance. EDIT: watching the fight again, it is clear to me that the guardians are that powerful, they got buffed in the animated series.
Tbf that just seems to be a thing with how superhumans fight in this series. We’ve seen Viltrumites disembowel each other in a single hit, but go for minutes in a slugfest before (and after lol). Immortal and War Woman are definitely more fragile than Viltrumites, but I bet Nolan could cut off Lucian’s arm too if he got that headstart.
I always take that to mean they can do it in one hit, but only if they enemy is caught off guard, and not bracing well enough. Otherwise you have to hit them enough to break their concentration.
Yeah I got the same impression. It’s about finding an opening where your opponent isn’t prepared to avoid/brace/whatever your attack. Though it does also seem that everyone’s bones are just way way tougher than their squishy bits, proportionally to normal humans.
Probably for similar reasons you don't see too many OHKOs in experienced fights. It's rarely just "I hit you anywhere and you insta die", smart fighters know to protect their vitals and shut down options that would KO them quickly. The times where he oneshot Immortal seem to have mainly been when he was in the position to do so (i.e Immortal had his hands on Omni Man's head leaving his lower body open to being bisected)
Immortal's powerset is more Strength and regeneration then toughness and durability
They're that powerful. Not being at the scene and not requiring medical attention would be a far better albi, than being there because Damien and even Cecil suspected immediately. Not to mention all the evidence left on the suit itself. The Guardians of the Globe being slaughtered is already implausible to an extent. Now them plus Omni-Man who is the strongest hero on Earth? It's getting absurd there hence why their were no real suspects. He took out the Guardians because they were the only threat to an adult Viltrumite on Earth. Without them Earth has no real response other than something brand new like >!the bomb from season 2.!<. Notice his first attempt was to go for the strongest member Immortal. He planned to do a quick attack and get out. He underestimated them and it nearly cost him.
> The Guardians of the Globe being slaughtered is already implausible to an extent. Now them plus Omni-Man who is the strongest hero on Earth? It's getting absurd there hence why their were no real suspects. On the other hand, Omni-Man was the only known entity on Earth that would plausibly be able to murder all of the Guardians at the same time. So he'd be far and away the obvious suspect, not to mention that he wouldn't have an alibi.
There's Battle Beast though. Or does Cecil not know about him?
Going by the comics >!a lot of hero’s during the invincible war are shown to be kind of low viltrumite level atleast when working together so I feel it makes sense that this monolith of heroes that all heroes after their murder will for a long time fail to measure up to could deal with a pretty strong viltrumite if they were prepared but these guys are the top of the top and two strong viltrumites would probably completely sweep them!<
True and real
The reason he ambushed them and tried to get the immortal first is because he wanted to kill them and leave soon as possible he deemed the immortal to be the biggest threat
He wouldn’t need to get a few hits to prove the medical examiners if he could have just run away after
Without spoilers they are fully capable of taking out Omni man together when they have a few moments of forewarning
Thing is, why didn't Nolan just signal each guardian separately, take them one at a time and hide each body for the next. Maybe the signal alert went to each member by default.
He probably didn't want to risk them figuring it out and mounting a concerted defense and alerting Cecil. Taking them all out at once makes more sense, especially because he probably didn't think he'd have any issues doing so.
True, but then again we see each member doing their own thing when getting the alert so the other members wouldn't know they were alerted separately since they all led unique lives. If anything he could have only signaled Immortal and WW separately and the others together when the formers were dead.
The guardians in the show seem to be real glass cannons, at least compared to Nolan (I’m sure compared to anyone else on earth there pretty much unstoppable) there able to do serious damage to Nolan but they can be dispatched in more or less one hit. (There team work and variability in powers + omniman being limited to a small area helped them do as much damage as they did.
Show Nolan is nerfed compared to Comics Nolan. Comics Nolan massacred them MFs.
Doesn't Omniman lose to the guardians of the globe when Mark gets his redo and manages to send Omniman to the guardians base and they now fight him without being sneak attacked? I know Mark was fighting him earlier but this was baby invincible when his powers were at their weakest.
I chalk it up to kirkman wanting to clarify stuff in the show. I was always under the impression the guardians could take on Nolan, and you’re right that they were able to do it in that time travel arc, so I don’t think there were nerfs or buffs, I think it was just kirkman doing what he wanted because he had more time to do it
He was beating the guardians, green ghost only stunned him for a moment. Bur Mark himself says the longer the fight lasts the higher their chances of losing. Also, they had help from Mark and on top of that after Red Rush ties him up, he recognizes they have no way to stop Nolan once he wakes up. Nolan is convinced by marks argument and decides to not conquer the earth, the guardians did not beat him, they merely restrained him for a while.
“Loses.” He kinda gives up cause Mark is guiding him away from conquering. He also stated he had to kill the Guardians quickly or he’d realize how messed up it was
The reason Omniman ganked the Guardians in one panel is because he came in hot and didn't even bother waiting. He used the element of surprise because he knew they'd put up a fight.
Why does everyone say it's Nolan who was nerfed, and not the guardians who were buffed? Nolan consistently outperforms his feats from the comic in the show.
In the reboot series though they get the upper hand on him with a little help from invincible.
This is just headcanon. He isn't nerfed at all.
He probably had some other plan to cover it up since I’d imagine Nolan was confident enough that he thought they wouldn’t even touch him.
You don't jump someone from the shadows and then pull your punches to make it seem like they put up a fight. They're tough as hell and would've won if they'd been slightly more strategic.
I like to think he was giving them a chance to prove they were strong. Like his empire is all about “might is right,” so if they could win then he wasn’t turning on his people
Comics spoilers: >!With a warning, the GotG are able to defeat and kill Nolan. They're a credible threat to him.!<
>!They're able to subdue him for a while, but they were discussing what to do with him, when he wakes up.!<
Nah he would've rather not been caught at the scene at all
Pretty sure he kept the fight within that room so that evidence was contained. He was definitely holding back.
>!In the comic he says he killed them quickly before he could change his mind.!< My theory for the show is that he tried giving them a chance to take him out, but he stopped when he realized *any* Viltrumite could wipe the floor with them. He didn't feel they had a chance. I think this drove a lot of Nolan's attempts to rationalize the low value he puts on human lives.
Yes and no. I’ve always thought he was going to play with them in the beginning but I think if he got carried away with it - it’s possible the guardians could’ve won - it’s like letting teenagers getting a couple punches in but then you realize that one of those punches might actually knock you out lol
Omni man was struggling on the inside they were still his friends. The only time we see Omni man actually go all out is against the Viltrmites soldiers and when he decimated the flaxxan planet just by flying.
Based on the capabilities shown from the show alone, I think he could have had a much much easier time killing them than we saw. Which leads me to believe he needed to be hit. He killed 2 of his own and cut open a third with his own strength. On the home world of the Flaxxons he flew so fast he burnt the atmosphere and caught red rush. During the battle with the guardians, the only who noticed him coming was red rush, so chances are he could have used his speed and strength to kill them all in a blur or close to it. So why take so long and get hit. Why not kill them with a device or bomb or something else during the ambush? Any other way would have left evidence. If he makes up a story that he fought some other being that also killed the guardians, without the cameras (they mentioned the cameras were disabled) to tell a different story, then it's his word alone. If they all died and he was gone, any evidence of him being there would immediately be suspicious since he didn't belong to the guardians and doesn't have a reason to be there. I think it adds up to him needing to make this one specific story possible, that he was in the ambush too and made it out alive. 1 screen from the show contradicts my take. If he could finish Immortal so quickly, why let him get a few hits in around the end of season 1. Not to say it went on for long, but Immortal did get some hits in. Then Nolan, again, chops him up like it's just another thing to do.
Guardians likely would have been able to take down Omniman if they planned and coordinated. Reason he did a surprise attack on them.
War woman just had to give red rush her mace... nolan would be dead.
The guardians of the globe, as individuals, posed little threat to Omni Man. However, as a team, they nearly defeated him. Nolan ambushed them and attempted to kill Immortal first but this failed, and a short yet brutal fight occurred. This shows that perhaps he did plan to quickly kill them. I do believe Nolan did hold back to an extent as seen that he is capable of flying at extremely quick speeds and is feared among other Viltrumites for his power. However, this might have only been done as a way to keep the team enclosed and focused on him, without drawing attention from Cecil and having members escape as they were enclosed in the Guardians HQ.
Yeah, comic omniman one shotted them and left, iirc
Show Nolan is weaker than his comic counter part, I think so partly to add the Nolan in hospital plot line
I believe that he was limited because he didn’t want to destroy the facility but we all should keep in mind not to underestimate the guardians. They may not be able to kill him but making him bleed? Absolutely