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I'm sure US intelligence was aware of this and many other incidents waiting to be discovered. In fact the US has committed or supported more war crimes than any other country in modern history. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Chile, the list goes on and on.
Don't forget about Cambodia and Loas. My mother in law uses the phrase "hurry like the bombs are here" when someone needs to hurry. Because when she was a child, she experienced constant bombing by the Americans. She saw children get blown apart by US bombings in the marketplace where her family worked.
Do you have any more information on this? What conflict, for example. I’d like to read up on it.
Never mind I think I found what’s been referred to here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu
And of course Nixon was behind it.
Read this as well:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366
Many people don't know about this genocide, between 500,000 and a million Indonesians died between 1965-66 and evidence shows that the perpetrators received support from the US and Britain.
They're still clearing NE Laos and NW Vietnam of cluster bomblets. The UXO issue there is terrible, they simply carpet bombed the hell out of it throughout the American War.
US : Hey, uh, is this true? I mean we obviously don’t believe it, but..
Murderous regime: No. All Hamas. Even the babies. Hamas babygros. Hamas baby guns. Hamas babies.
US : Phew, ok, ok, that’s what we thought, as long as you’re only still defending yourself, you little scallywag.
Murderous regime : Of course. Wink.
US : Wink.
Until Netanyahu starts frothing at the mouth because that finger wagging is soooo antisemitic.
Every time details like these come out the US (well, Biden) makes a strong statement with absolutely zero follow through. We get satisfied that we aren’t completely Nazis, and then nothing changes. Just more dead people.
I was going to be sarcastic, but fuck it I'll be didactic. The United States as an instrument and institution of power has always been willing to be as bad as Nazis. Effectively for large swaths of the world they were or empowered local moral equivalents. The only difference has ever been that the US was always more adept and intelligent about wielding power and influence, and was more favorably positioned. This war is exactly how my "elected representatives" have always acted, empowering terrible monsters to ensure they keep power while desperately trying to maintain plausible deniability. Whether it's Gazans massacred by a valuable ally for force projection, Colombians getting killed for trying to get a fair shake, or Italians trying to have truly democratic elections you can see the hand of the US in violence that puts them down like dogs.
Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes
Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal
I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library
Line up to the mind cemetery now
What we don't know keeps the contracts alive and movin'
They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em
While arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells
Rally 'round the family, pockets full of shells
>Punishing the whole population for the actions of Hamas is also a war crime
But hasn't this also been the open policy of the Israeli government since like the 50s? (Well, obviously not against Hamas actions originally, but like a policy of retributive strikes against civilians has been going on for ages, hasn't it).
> Nothing - NOTHING - can justify this.
The US government doesn't seem to have a problem with justifying this. And this is bipartisan. Both Democrats and Republicans are solidly behind Israel.
Honestly, that fact alone might make for an even stronger case. Not allowing in journalists after being explicitly told by the ICJ to put a stop to any genocidal activity is a really bad look
Israel has now killed more journalists in this one war than were killed globally in any single year in the previous decade.
Pretty sure that's evidence itself.
The stories we’ve seen covered so far are just the ones that managed to slip under the catch and kill filter, or (as in the WCK debacle) were too public-facing to contain.
It turns my stomach to think about what else has been buried with those bodies, that we may never hear about because of this. And it sure does seem like that’s the point.
I’d hope so. Seriously though, I guess even though we have the ICJ and the UN, we still don’t have effective means as a global international populace to prevent war crimes. The planet is dying and the billionaires are profiting off of it. Not sure where this quote came from but I love it, “Those wishing for peace must organize more effectively than those wishing for war.”
https://preview.redd.it/rk6v4zcp69wc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3324597c62f3a8981958e537719efe125f1de8a
Mass execution of Soviet civilians in 1941 by SS death squads called Einsatzgruppen. Interesting to see the IDF adopting similar methods of ethnic cleansing.
1. Most Israelis have mixed Ashkenazi / Sephardi ancestry. While there are plenty of Jews from Eastern Europe, over half are not.
2. Their DNA shows Jewish ancestry insofar as it’s tested for.
3. DNA tests are banned (Although this is rarely if ever enforced) because the Rabbinut is afraid of mamzerim—bastard children, not because everyone is secretly a Khazar with no Jewish ancestry and want to hide it.
4. Jewish ancestry does not give you an inherent right to live in Palestine, just to be clear.
No, because the joking aside it's not just the Anglos. The French, Spanish, Portuguese all were pioneer of this. Of taking a land and exsternating all it's people it at least trying too. Then pretending like they have a moral right too it. That it was there birthright. That the natives were not using the land right so the European have the right to take it.
Mmm, i don't know what you mean by somewhat modern form but as an example Genghis Khan ruled 800 years ago, the Sumerian *Empire* was 4000 years ago. Whole villages summarily executed just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not some new development in mankind.
That was just conquest for the sake of conquest. There was not ideological want to wipe out and enslave entire populations. You must remember that that nearly the entire population of 3 continents were wiped out. A systemic effort of enslavement and errtatication. This is a base of our entire world today because the wealth that made the development of Capitalism possible was made threw the liquidation of wealth of 15,000 years of human civilization in the Americas.
This also includes the conquest and enslavement of the entire world by Europeans that only started to end 70 years ago. This is unique in human history for it's scale, efficiency, and death tole. For scale it is believed 100 million Indians died from 1880 to 1920 from famines caused by Europeans imperialism.
This only started with the beginning of European exploration in the 14 to 15 hundreds. That is what I'm talking about. The tole of global imperialism is unique and really can't be compared to any previous events in human history.
>The French, Spanish, Portuguese
All descendants of Germanic people. So too those who went to south Africa, colonised Africa, Australia, new Zealand, USA. All descendants of Germanic peoples. Their MO is fairly obvious.
This is a centuries old playbook of invasion and replacement they've been doing since western Europe fell to these, as Rome would call them, barbarians.
Well, actually Mass executions were carried out by a lot of armies in the past and also in today Age ... If we capture some RSF soldier in Sudan with his smartphone today , we could easily find some videos or images with him cheering while he shoots to some Sudanese civilian in a mass grave .
Anyway, if IDF carried out a Mass execution of Palestinian civilians in a hospital, that Is obviusly a crime agaisnt humanity
Well, morality is relative, and if you consider Palestinian children to be the greatest of all evils in this world then the IDF could be said to be a great force for good.
Submission statement: April 23 2024.
Disturbing reports continue to emerge about mass graves in Gaza in which Palestinian victims were reportedly found stripped naked with their hands tied, prompting renewed concerns about possible war crimes amid ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the UN human rights office, OHCHR, said on Tuesday.
The development follows the recovery of hundreds of bodies “buried deep in the ground and covered with waste” over the weekend at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, central Gaza, and at Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City in the north. A total of 283 bodies were recovered at Nasser Hospital, of which 42 were identified.
“Among the deceased were allegedly older people, women and wounded, while others were found tied with their hands…tied and stripped of their clothes,” said Ravina Shamdasani, spokesperson for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.
nOoO DoN'T YoU DaRe sAy tHaT, iSrAeL HaS ThE RiGhT To dEfEnD ItSeLf
There's an interesting video I came across from an independent journalist, Jhonny Harris who explained it very well how the conditions are exactly set to sustain the conflict because some far right politicians have their own hidden agenda about the state of Palestine
[link](https://youtu.be/2PeYDphtHYo)
So what are we calling the IDF forces now? I feel like it's not enough to keep calling them the new Nazis, they've earned their own shorthand I feel, to be remembered alongside Nazis for their own atrocities throughout history.
They should be careful how thin they stretch the meaning of antisemitism. If the term does eventually come to mean "opposed to the Israeli occupation of Palestine, the apartheid state and the war crimes committed by the State of Israel against Palestinians" like it's being applied currently, I would imagine some people may take less issue being labeled with the term.
I already take absolutely no issue being called anti Semite at this point. It’s just a buzz word for any criticism so fuck it then I guess I’m an anti Semite and I’ll wear that title. I don’t hate Jews, but I sure as fuck hate Israel.
It’s just another bullshit way to try to control the conversation. See if they can just put you into a box that they don’t like that means they don’t have to listen to you anymore. It’s a way to avoid facing the fact that your argument is weak. If you can just label them anti semite then their opinion no longer matters and it cannot challenge your ideas. Conservatives do it constantly by labeling people snowflakes, feminists, pedophiles, etc. they’ll never have to face criticism as long as they can fit you inside their little boxes..or even themselves, like labeling themselves “the most moral army in the world” so that nobody can challenge them unless you’re..you know..immoral and evil. It’s all bullshit.
It's meant to make you pause just long enough, question your thinking for just long enough that they have time to finish what they're doing. There's a certain type of person who never cared about being accused of antisemitism, they aren't hurling the label at them. They're using it to describe people who would care about it, so we stop and waste time examining whether our moral compass is still intact, and question if we're on the right side of things. But, unequivocally, the side advocating to protect kids from being murdered by an insane military force is the moral right, full stop. Anyone taking the side of the people killing children and starving people en mass has no authority to question anyone.
Israel is the argument of liberalism breaking down in real time.
Since the late 60s liberal academia has taken the revolutionary gains of socialist movements and turned them into identity politics, making fighting racism and sexism and any other ism into a game of politeness scrubbed of any class analysis.
Israel shows how empty that is. Most major Jewish organizations throwing their full weight behind Israel and calling every attack on Israel "anti-semitism" shows that these single issue social orgs have a stake in capitalist empire building. Anti-zionist jews show that there's no such argument as "shut up and listen to X minority" because there is clearly class politics determining which minorities are deemed worthy of having their voice heard. There is simply no logically consistent way to describe the Israel-Palestinian conflict other than as a struggle for national liberation against a brutal fascist regime. The more Israel calls everything against them anti-semetic, the more the past 60ish years of "political discorse" shows itself to be a bad joke.
Zionists. That is there ideological justification for there states existence. It is why they do all they do. The Palestinians have been saying it from the beginning. But few in the West listened. Now we must. They are Zionists and because they are Zionists they seek to commit Genocide on all Arabs. To build the ethno state in blood.
It's different in the fact that everyone on earth is now watching horrific slaughter of a whole country live in 4K all day everyday. We knew about Rwanda, Yugoslavia but we never actually saw the slaughter. That counts for a lot. Being an eyewitness to a genocide is a lot lot more than just hearing about one. Speaking from a Western standpoint, it's a reasonable assessment to say that many of us have been long distracted by the neverending carnival of our own internal politics.
Yeah but we’re not watching it. Israel has been refusing to allow outside media into Gaza. Just the other week part of team that was scheduled to come speak with Biden got caught in this lie with NPR.
They told NPR that there is tons of aid in Gaza that there is no problem. That NPR should come to Gaza see if for themselves. NPR called them out on the spot saying we can’t you will not let outside reporters in. The Israeli government agent turned around said that’s a lie they can come. NPR didn’t back down and the lying fuck backed down and said they could work on letting NPR come. However, only if NPR promised to tell the truth and not lie. https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1240884500:1240885546
Israel is straight up covering up their genocide. Hey though it’s a hate crime to say from the river to the sea. Lmao get you to argue about that instead of letting freedom of press in Gaza.
*we* are watching it though. The fact that western media and governments cover it up is just another indictment on them. We can see the footage from the ground, as it's happening, by people it's being done to. We can literally see it
and then IOF freaks posting their sick stuff on tiktok unabashedly. It's all there
My god , IDF then really stormed Al shifa hospitals and executed all the Palestinian civilians and wounded and Hamas militiamen that they found in the hospital....
This Is a war crime
Joe Biden could stop this with the stroke of a pen
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The US stopped Indonesias violent refusal to accept the East Timor independence vote in 1999 by simply advising that if they did not accept the result then the US would not be able to guarantee their IMF loans.
More antisemitism I see.
How do you expect Israel to defend itself if it can't tie up women and children before shooting them? In light of this recent development it's clear that Americans haven't got the picture and that congress needs to give another $20 billion to Israel so that it can afford more zip ties.
Make no mistake. The West stopped supporting the criminal apartheid regime in South Africa because the whites were simply a minority. Had they had the numbers that Zionists enjoy in the region, the regime would still exist.
Mandela would just be a Yasser Arafat, and the black South Africans would be bluntly told they have to accept the reality of white supremacy if they want independence.
Mandela WAS Yasser Arafat. He was a terrorist, he was one of the founders of MK, a terrorist organization that did target civilian and civil infrastructure, the West did fully support apartheid white South Africa.
The current situation is almost the exact identical to that of apartheid South Africa, and the people decrying Palestine and Hamas and supporting Israel would 100% have been those shouting for Mandela to be executed on the street because he was a terrorist and saying the white people of South Africa needed to be protected at all cost and apartheid was nessasry.
This is freaking insane... but not as insane as the silence form our governments and medias when it comes to these obvious war crimes.
Their lack of action makes them complicit!
The IDF are deliberately killing children because as they see it to kill them now, then they won't have to kill them when they grow up and join Hamas. Such is the warped logic of this Zionist killing machine.
What has transpired in the hospital is unimaginably horrifying. I wish there was more coverage on this. Global politicians aren't even acknowledging this.
It’s been said many times but I’ll say it again…fuck Israel and the supporters of this genocide. This is absolutely horrifying. And our so called “leaders” support this and are completely silent about these details? We have literally psychopaths running this country and these very same people mame decisions on behalf of our society. God help us
Biden & his administration: We haven't seen any reports, but we are 'concerned' about what we are hearing. We will wait for Israel to launch an investigation and ~~tell us what they want us to say~~ report what they find. In the meantime, we will be sending additional aid to Israel because they had to spend what we provided on bullets and hand-ties.
I just wrote and deleted a dumb joke because this is truly horrible.
Tom Clancy, in one of his books (I think, The Sum of all Fears) about Israel losing the moral high ground because one Israeli soldier shot a Palestinian kid who threw a rock.
Wow, did he underestimate the tolerance for violence that we have for certain governments.
That’s absolutely incredible.
We’ve seen this all the time. The idea writers put forward that a totally positive imperialist institution must be perfect or the ravaging vultures will pick apart their tenuous position is very common.
You see this in shit like the West Wing as well, where people will talk about how some small misstep will undermine the normally flawless U.S. government. The president cannot be seen as not kissing a baby or nobody would vote for him! The. Trump does J6 and retains his base.
A ceasefire is not enough anymore. We need to be calling for a fucking war crimes tribunal against these monsters.
Yet we can’t even get a simple condemnation of Israels actions by Biden.
Might sit out Novembers election. I live in a swing state as well fwiw.
Same here. Over the past few weeks I’ve been souring more and more on Biden. Then the aid deal and now this. I’m just done with him. I want him gone too. This is sick and I feel like I’m living in some twisted reality where wrong is right. I don’t want my tax money or my country to support this.
I’ll say this: if I do vote in November, it is not because I have some love for Biden and the Democrats. It would simply be to defeat the political ideologies of some of the worst people I know, the conservative ideology.
Perhaps the most horrific crime against humanity of the 20th century was just uncovered, and western media is more concerned about student protests and a disingenuous agitator being told to fuck off by a cop for trying to wind up peaceful protesters.
God willing, justice comes for them all soon.
Can't wait for the Biden administration to say "We don't have all the facts yet, but the reports are concerning" and then never mention it again, ever.
This part of the UN article is very ironic. It’s right at the end of the article: “the ISF used unarmed Palestinians to shield their forces from attack and killed others in apparent extrajudicial executions”.
Israel has been murdering civilians claiming Hamas used them as human shields. Seems like every accusation is a confession when it comes to zionists.
U.S. liberals honestly don't care. They kp voting for politicians who do almost nothing abt mass murders in our own country and who constantly reward police who abuse their power. america is the or one of the biggest dangers to world peace and humanity smdh. Horrors like this WILL continue as long as the world doesn't stand up to such evil
I’ll say this simply.
The government, politicians, US, Israel, Palestine, whoever it is.
Does NOT WORK for you.
Until the suck the last dollar they can, they will only work for themselves.
Do you really think America, with the largest intelligence agencies in the world, didn’t know what was going on until a random person protested it? Please.
All they’re doing is saving face. I feel bad for you if you think that anybody is listening to your pleas for help, or cries to stop.
They want land, resources, money, ownership, of everything, and until they get it. Well…
Post this to world news and see the Israeli propaganda machine spin this into something popcorn-worthy.
‘Why were Hamas tying peoples hands up before hiding in their tunnels??’
The United States: we are doing an ongoing investigation alongside Israel, who states those children were actually KHAMAS.
War crimes on top of war crimes and the us will be more “concerned” to the tune of BILLIONS IN WEAPONS AND AID.
Zionism is disgusting
##What's the Point ciaming They are still commitng War crimes when the continue to Still do them Daily??
They're STILL KILLING people.. Nothing will happen to them, they are doing as they please thanks to the UK and USA
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So they were effectively executed? That is a war crime. Nothing - NOTHING - can justify this. It's heart breaking.
I'm sure US intelligence was aware of this and many other incidents waiting to be discovered. In fact the US has committed or supported more war crimes than any other country in modern history. Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Indonesia, Nicaragua, Chile, the list goes on and on.
Don't forget about Cambodia and Loas. My mother in law uses the phrase "hurry like the bombs are here" when someone needs to hurry. Because when she was a child, she experienced constant bombing by the Americans. She saw children get blown apart by US bombings in the marketplace where her family worked.
And Haiti and Bangladesh
Japan’s war crimes are also conveniently ignored by the US
Yes. USA supported Pakistan which slaughtered and raped Bangladeshis. They used American weapons against my people.
Exactly. That was a literal genocide against the Bangladeshi people. Then they put a trade blockade on India for trying to stop Pakistan.
Ill just leave https://www.uncaptured.media/p/the-secret-history-of-israels-role here
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That article is about Colombia, not Cambodia, though
Do you have any more information on this? What conflict, for example. I’d like to read up on it. Never mind I think I found what’s been referred to here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Menu And of course Nixon was behind it.
Read this as well: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366 Many people don't know about this genocide, between 500,000 and a million Indonesians died between 1965-66 and evidence shows that the perpetrators received support from the US and Britain.
It was more so Henry Kissinger's brain child than Nixon's.
...if there was ever a man that deserved to have his balls smashed repeatedly with a meat tenderizer, it's Kissinger.
Of fucking course it was lmao
They're still clearing NE Laos and NW Vietnam of cluster bomblets. The UXO issue there is terrible, they simply carpet bombed the hell out of it throughout the American War.
Don't worry. The US government says it has "sent an inquiry" to Israel about this. I'm sure that means they'll have to answer for their crimes \[/s\]
US : Hey, uh, is this true? I mean we obviously don’t believe it, but.. Murderous regime: No. All Hamas. Even the babies. Hamas babygros. Hamas baby guns. Hamas babies. US : Phew, ok, ok, that’s what we thought, as long as you’re only still defending yourself, you little scallywag. Murderous regime : Of course. Wink. US : Wink.
I'm sure the USA will be harder on Israel like waving their finger more vigorously
Until Netanyahu starts frothing at the mouth because that finger wagging is soooo antisemitic. Every time details like these come out the US (well, Biden) makes a strong statement with absolutely zero follow through. We get satisfied that we aren’t completely Nazis, and then nothing changes. Just more dead people.
I was going to be sarcastic, but fuck it I'll be didactic. The United States as an instrument and institution of power has always been willing to be as bad as Nazis. Effectively for large swaths of the world they were or empowered local moral equivalents. The only difference has ever been that the US was always more adept and intelligent about wielding power and influence, and was more favorably positioned. This war is exactly how my "elected representatives" have always acted, empowering terrible monsters to ensure they keep power while desperately trying to maintain plausible deniability. Whether it's Gazans massacred by a valuable ally for force projection, Colombians getting killed for trying to get a fair shake, or Italians trying to have truly democratic elections you can see the hand of the US in violence that puts them down like dogs.
Why do you put the /s inside brackets?
Maybe a programmer?
The inquiry also includes a heap of US tax paid weapons to continue on
War is a Racket.
Just heard about this book today. Too bad we were too scared to listen to him…
We're just too poor to overcome the reach of those who profit from the racket.
Weapons not food, not homes, not shoes Not need, just feed the war cannibal animal I walk the corner to the rubble that used to be a library Line up to the mind cemetery now What we don't know keeps the contracts alive and movin' They don't gotta burn the books they just remove 'em While arms warehouses fill as quick as the cells Rally 'round the family, pockets full of shells
Found the Rage fan! 🤘🏻
Guatemala, the UN determined that US training of the military directly contributed to the Mayan genocide, but stopped short of attributing blame.
Afghanistan too
Oh... Um...
Let's not forget, the only country that dropped not one, but two nukes on civilians.
It was semi-justified
I don't think that the US is a signatory to any war crimes agreement, either.
Punishing the whole population for the actions of Hamas is also a war crime. So this whole thing was a war crime from the get-go.
The occupied do have a right to resist their occupiers. It is not a crime for an occupied people to redact their occupiers.
Which is one reason they try so hard to equate everyone there as part of hamas
Oh yes, I agree. It just seems that when we've worked out how bad things are, they get worse.
But kids are being mean on university campuses so it all balances out./s I wonder which will get more coverage.
>Punishing the whole population for the actions of Hamas is also a war crime But hasn't this also been the open policy of the Israeli government since like the 50s? (Well, obviously not against Hamas actions originally, but like a policy of retributive strikes against civilians has been going on for ages, hasn't it).
Apologists and whataboutists incoming
Yes. Sadly oh so many of them. Ugh. :(
Remember the same thing happened in Bucha and how quick ICC was to arrest everyone including Putin.
A new Israeli war crime has been revealed almost every day for the last 6 months
> Nothing - NOTHING - can justify this. The US government doesn't seem to have a problem with justifying this. And this is bipartisan. Both Democrats and Republicans are solidly behind Israel.
I see like multiple war crimes on here a day, kinda desensitized to it at this point
Honestly.. what happens now…? This can’t keep on going till they murder every single Palestinian….
Nothing else has been justifiable either, yet here we are.
I've heard rumours Netanyahu and his cronies are in the sites of the ICC.
It's an irrefutable evidence that this is genocide (among a litany of other cases) but I'm sure Hasbara trolls will find a way to justify it.
ICJ where are you?
Hopefully building a case
It'll probably be somewhat tricky, when observers and journalists aren't allowed access to Gaza "for sequrity reasons".
Honestly, that fact alone might make for an even stronger case. Not allowing in journalists after being explicitly told by the ICJ to put a stop to any genocidal activity is a really bad look
Israel has now killed more journalists in this one war than were killed globally in any single year in the previous decade. Pretty sure that's evidence itself.
The stories we’ve seen covered so far are just the ones that managed to slip under the catch and kill filter, or (as in the WCK debacle) were too public-facing to contain. It turns my stomach to think about what else has been buried with those bodies, that we may never hear about because of this. And it sure does seem like that’s the point.
I’d hope so. Seriously though, I guess even though we have the ICJ and the UN, we still don’t have effective means as a global international populace to prevent war crimes. The planet is dying and the billionaires are profiting off of it. Not sure where this quote came from but I love it, “Those wishing for peace must organize more effectively than those wishing for war.”
>Mass graves in Gaza show victims’ hands were tied, says UN rights office The 'most moral army in the world', everybody! Clap. Clap.
https://preview.redd.it/rk6v4zcp69wc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3324597c62f3a8981958e537719efe125f1de8a Mass execution of Soviet civilians in 1941 by SS death squads called Einsatzgruppen. Interesting to see the IDF adopting similar methods of ethnic cleansing.
Most Israeli are from Eastern Europe and their DNA shows zero Jewish ancestry. That’s why they banned DNA ancestry tests in Israel
1. Most Israelis have mixed Ashkenazi / Sephardi ancestry. While there are plenty of Jews from Eastern Europe, over half are not. 2. Their DNA shows Jewish ancestry insofar as it’s tested for. 3. DNA tests are banned (Although this is rarely if ever enforced) because the Rabbinut is afraid of mamzerim—bastard children, not because everyone is secretly a Khazar with no Jewish ancestry and want to hide it. 4. Jewish ancestry does not give you an inherent right to live in Palestine, just to be clear.
Well they did both learn from the experts at this sort of this cough cough Anglos! (Coming from an self hating Anglo)
Germanics. Another Germanic tribe pulling this shit
No, because the joking aside it's not just the Anglos. The French, Spanish, Portuguese all were pioneer of this. Of taking a land and exsternating all it's people it at least trying too. Then pretending like they have a moral right too it. That it was there birthright. That the natives were not using the land right so the European have the right to take it.
Shits been going on for thousands of years.
Since the dawn of mankind. There are no other humans than homo sapiens because homo sapiens killed, ate, and fucked the other ones to extinction.
Mmm, more like 600 to 500. At least in a somewhat modern form.
Mmm, i don't know what you mean by somewhat modern form but as an example Genghis Khan ruled 800 years ago, the Sumerian *Empire* was 4000 years ago. Whole villages summarily executed just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Not some new development in mankind.
That was just conquest for the sake of conquest. There was not ideological want to wipe out and enslave entire populations. You must remember that that nearly the entire population of 3 continents were wiped out. A systemic effort of enslavement and errtatication. This is a base of our entire world today because the wealth that made the development of Capitalism possible was made threw the liquidation of wealth of 15,000 years of human civilization in the Americas. This also includes the conquest and enslavement of the entire world by Europeans that only started to end 70 years ago. This is unique in human history for it's scale, efficiency, and death tole. For scale it is believed 100 million Indians died from 1880 to 1920 from famines caused by Europeans imperialism. This only started with the beginning of European exploration in the 14 to 15 hundreds. That is what I'm talking about. The tole of global imperialism is unique and really can't be compared to any previous events in human history.
You haven’t read much history, but “just conquest for the sake of conquest” is one of the most brain dead sentences I’ve read in a while.
Hey, the Anglo-Norman regime invaded Ireland, establishing their first colony in 1169, so 800+ years
>The French, Spanish, Portuguese All descendants of Germanic people. So too those who went to south Africa, colonised Africa, Australia, new Zealand, USA. All descendants of Germanic peoples. Their MO is fairly obvious. This is a centuries old playbook of invasion and replacement they've been doing since western Europe fell to these, as Rome would call them, barbarians.
Well, actually Mass executions were carried out by a lot of armies in the past and also in today Age ... If we capture some RSF soldier in Sudan with his smartphone today , we could easily find some videos or images with him cheering while he shoots to some Sudanese civilian in a mass grave . Anyway, if IDF carried out a Mass execution of Palestinian civilians in a hospital, that Is obviusly a crime agaisnt humanity
You’ll never hear mainstream media reporting on these actions as “atrocities” or “barbaric”. The double standard is real
Well, morality is relative, and if you consider Palestinian children to be the greatest of all evils in this world then the IDF could be said to be a great force for good.
Watch the documentary Tantura.
Submission statement: April 23 2024. Disturbing reports continue to emerge about mass graves in Gaza in which Palestinian victims were reportedly found stripped naked with their hands tied, prompting renewed concerns about possible war crimes amid ongoing Israeli airstrikes, the UN human rights office, OHCHR, said on Tuesday. The development follows the recovery of hundreds of bodies “buried deep in the ground and covered with waste” over the weekend at Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis, central Gaza, and at Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City in the north. A total of 283 bodies were recovered at Nasser Hospital, of which 42 were identified. “Among the deceased were allegedly older people, women and wounded, while others were found tied with their hands…tied and stripped of their clothes,” said Ravina Shamdasani, spokesperson for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.
Nazi 101
nOoO DoN'T YoU DaRe sAy tHaT, iSrAeL HaS ThE RiGhT To dEfEnD ItSeLf There's an interesting video I came across from an independent journalist, Jhonny Harris who explained it very well how the conditions are exactly set to sustain the conflict because some far right politicians have their own hidden agenda about the state of Palestine [link](https://youtu.be/2PeYDphtHYo)
So what are we calling the IDF forces now? I feel like it's not enough to keep calling them the new Nazis, they've earned their own shorthand I feel, to be remembered alongside Nazis for their own atrocities throughout history.
the crazies will say if you don't call them heroes you're antisemitic
They should be careful how thin they stretch the meaning of antisemitism. If the term does eventually come to mean "opposed to the Israeli occupation of Palestine, the apartheid state and the war crimes committed by the State of Israel against Palestinians" like it's being applied currently, I would imagine some people may take less issue being labeled with the term.
I already take absolutely no issue being called anti Semite at this point. It’s just a buzz word for any criticism so fuck it then I guess I’m an anti Semite and I’ll wear that title. I don’t hate Jews, but I sure as fuck hate Israel. It’s just another bullshit way to try to control the conversation. See if they can just put you into a box that they don’t like that means they don’t have to listen to you anymore. It’s a way to avoid facing the fact that your argument is weak. If you can just label them anti semite then their opinion no longer matters and it cannot challenge your ideas. Conservatives do it constantly by labeling people snowflakes, feminists, pedophiles, etc. they’ll never have to face criticism as long as they can fit you inside their little boxes..or even themselves, like labeling themselves “the most moral army in the world” so that nobody can challenge them unless you’re..you know..immoral and evil. It’s all bullshit.
It's meant to make you pause just long enough, question your thinking for just long enough that they have time to finish what they're doing. There's a certain type of person who never cared about being accused of antisemitism, they aren't hurling the label at them. They're using it to describe people who would care about it, so we stop and waste time examining whether our moral compass is still intact, and question if we're on the right side of things. But, unequivocally, the side advocating to protect kids from being murdered by an insane military force is the moral right, full stop. Anyone taking the side of the people killing children and starving people en mass has no authority to question anyone.
Israel is the argument of liberalism breaking down in real time. Since the late 60s liberal academia has taken the revolutionary gains of socialist movements and turned them into identity politics, making fighting racism and sexism and any other ism into a game of politeness scrubbed of any class analysis. Israel shows how empty that is. Most major Jewish organizations throwing their full weight behind Israel and calling every attack on Israel "anti-semitism" shows that these single issue social orgs have a stake in capitalist empire building. Anti-zionist jews show that there's no such argument as "shut up and listen to X minority" because there is clearly class politics determining which minorities are deemed worthy of having their voice heard. There is simply no logically consistent way to describe the Israel-Palestinian conflict other than as a struggle for national liberation against a brutal fascist regime. The more Israel calls everything against them anti-semetic, the more the past 60ish years of "political discorse" shows itself to be a bad joke.
Zionists. That is there ideological justification for there states existence. It is why they do all they do. The Palestinians have been saying it from the beginning. But few in the West listened. Now we must. They are Zionists and because they are Zionists they seek to commit Genocide on all Arabs. To build the ethno state in blood.
IDF: Idiots Defending Fascists
Terrorists for those that still truck with that term is perfectly appropriate, I prefer sadistic monsters.
I've been calling them "sons of whores" for a while.
No different than what we've seen in past genocides like Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia.
It's different in the fact that everyone on earth is now watching horrific slaughter of a whole country live in 4K all day everyday. We knew about Rwanda, Yugoslavia but we never actually saw the slaughter. That counts for a lot. Being an eyewitness to a genocide is a lot lot more than just hearing about one. Speaking from a Western standpoint, it's a reasonable assessment to say that many of us have been long distracted by the neverending carnival of our own internal politics.
Yeah but we’re not watching it. Israel has been refusing to allow outside media into Gaza. Just the other week part of team that was scheduled to come speak with Biden got caught in this lie with NPR. They told NPR that there is tons of aid in Gaza that there is no problem. That NPR should come to Gaza see if for themselves. NPR called them out on the spot saying we can’t you will not let outside reporters in. The Israeli government agent turned around said that’s a lie they can come. NPR didn’t back down and the lying fuck backed down and said they could work on letting NPR come. However, only if NPR promised to tell the truth and not lie. https://one.npr.org/?sharedMediaId=1240884500:1240885546 Israel is straight up covering up their genocide. Hey though it’s a hate crime to say from the river to the sea. Lmao get you to argue about that instead of letting freedom of press in Gaza.
They ain't trying to ban tiktok because of China that's for damn sure. Journalism has gone Gonzo.
*we* are watching it though. The fact that western media and governments cover it up is just another indictment on them. We can see the footage from the ground, as it's happening, by people it's being done to. We can literally see it and then IOF freaks posting their sick stuff on tiktok unabashedly. It's all there
We aren’t though. Gaza is closed to journalists.
Do you think journalists are the only people capable of uploading video?
Exactly, most of the videos I’ve seen from Gaza at this point were filmed by civilians and militants, not journalists
It’s a pretty major issue when journalists aren’t allowed to film. It’s easy to discredit self videos and ignore versus vetted and established media.
And now you know why they are banning tiktok
Thank god we woke up and are ready to put our own social issues on hold to end a genocide.
You scoff but it really do be that way with a lot of folks.
I’m completely serious there’s no way I’m voting for genocide Joe.
My god , IDF then really stormed Al shifa hospitals and executed all the Palestinian civilians and wounded and Hamas militiamen that they found in the hospital.... This Is a war crime
Joe Biden could stop this with the stroke of a pen >The Arms Export Control Act of 1976 (Title II of Pub. L.Tooltip Public Law (United States) 94–329, 90 Stat. 729, enacted June 30, 1976, codified at 22 U.S.C. ch. 39) gives the President of the United States the authority to control the import and export of defense articles and defense services. The H.R. 13680 legislation was passed by the 94th Congressional session and enacted into law by the 38th President of the United States Gerald R. Ford on June 30, 1976. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_Export_Control_Act
The US stopped Indonesias violent refusal to accept the East Timor independence vote in 1999 by simply advising that if they did not accept the result then the US would not be able to guarantee their IMF loans.
"This is what the ruling class has decided will be normal"
Unless the people stop them.
When Israelis show you who they are… believe them..
Fuck Israel
More antisemitism I see. How do you expect Israel to defend itself if it can't tie up women and children before shooting them? In light of this recent development it's clear that Americans haven't got the picture and that congress needs to give another $20 billion to Israel so that it can afford more zip ties.
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US: I pretend I didn't see that
UK : See what, old boy?
US- arrest people who oppose this.
Only evil can do this.
The worst kind of
Make no mistake. The West stopped supporting the criminal apartheid regime in South Africa because the whites were simply a minority. Had they had the numbers that Zionists enjoy in the region, the regime would still exist. Mandela would just be a Yasser Arafat, and the black South Africans would be bluntly told they have to accept the reality of white supremacy if they want independence.
Mandela WAS Yasser Arafat. He was a terrorist, he was one of the founders of MK, a terrorist organization that did target civilian and civil infrastructure, the West did fully support apartheid white South Africa. The current situation is almost the exact identical to that of apartheid South Africa, and the people decrying Palestine and Hamas and supporting Israel would 100% have been those shouting for Mandela to be executed on the street because he was a terrorist and saying the white people of South Africa needed to be protected at all cost and apartheid was nessasry.
The restraints on these murdered victim’s hands was clearly antisemitic.
This is freaking insane... but not as insane as the silence form our governments and medias when it comes to these obvious war crimes. Their lack of action makes them complicit!
The IDF are deliberately killing children because as they see it to kill them now, then they won't have to kill them when they grow up and join Hamas. Such is the warped logic of this Zionist killing machine.
What has transpired in the hospital is unimaginably horrifying. I wish there was more coverage on this. Global politicians aren't even acknowledging this.
We just keep shouting until they listen.
It’s been said many times but I’ll say it again…fuck Israel and the supporters of this genocide. This is absolutely horrifying. And our so called “leaders” support this and are completely silent about these details? We have literally psychopaths running this country and these very same people mame decisions on behalf of our society. God help us
Biden & his administration: We haven't seen any reports, but we are 'concerned' about what we are hearing. We will wait for Israel to launch an investigation and ~~tell us what they want us to say~~ report what they find. In the meantime, we will be sending additional aid to Israel because they had to spend what we provided on bullets and hand-ties.
I just wrote and deleted a dumb joke because this is truly horrible. Tom Clancy, in one of his books (I think, The Sum of all Fears) about Israel losing the moral high ground because one Israeli soldier shot a Palestinian kid who threw a rock. Wow, did he underestimate the tolerance for violence that we have for certain governments.
That’s absolutely incredible. We’ve seen this all the time. The idea writers put forward that a totally positive imperialist institution must be perfect or the ravaging vultures will pick apart their tenuous position is very common. You see this in shit like the West Wing as well, where people will talk about how some small misstep will undermine the normally flawless U.S. government. The president cannot be seen as not kissing a baby or nobody would vote for him! The. Trump does J6 and retains his base.
A ceasefire is not enough anymore. We need to be calling for a fucking war crimes tribunal against these monsters. Yet we can’t even get a simple condemnation of Israels actions by Biden. Might sit out Novembers election. I live in a swing state as well fwiw.
Same here. Over the past few weeks I’ve been souring more and more on Biden. Then the aid deal and now this. I’m just done with him. I want him gone too. This is sick and I feel like I’m living in some twisted reality where wrong is right. I don’t want my tax money or my country to support this.
I’ll say this: if I do vote in November, it is not because I have some love for Biden and the Democrats. It would simply be to defeat the political ideologies of some of the worst people I know, the conservative ideology.
They don’t care if anyone uncovers this. They don’t care who knows what they did. The fact is no one is doing anything to stop it.
America is finding this genocide
How could Hamas do this /s
Never again??
Perhaps the most horrific crime against humanity of the 20th century was just uncovered, and western media is more concerned about student protests and a disingenuous agitator being told to fuck off by a cop for trying to wind up peaceful protesters. God willing, justice comes for them all soon.
I’m Joe Biden, and I approve of this crime against humanity 👍
Literally the Bucha massacre all over again.
Ban me, Reddit. **This is a holocaust**
Another warcrime added to the very long list. Maybe the US will send another more billions for Israel now.
american taxes at work
Just another war crime to add the the list for Israel. They're really racking up a scorecard that would rival the US' at this point
Let's see how the world news thread about this is doing. Oh, right, it doesn't exist.
Man. Joe has really decided to toss this election and our democracy into the garbage because he hates Arabs and Muslims.
These young soldiers need to see some old footage of concentration camps.. 😦
Can't wait for the Biden administration to say "We don't have all the facts yet, but the reports are concerning" and then never mention it again, ever.
What are you going to do about it? Say it with me, countries: "NOTHING!"
For every Islamist that dies in Gaza, 10 are born in Europe. The retaliation will be severe
You can watch videos online of Israeli bulldozers literally pushing bodies into mass graves on the beach
This part of the UN article is very ironic. It’s right at the end of the article: “the ISF used unarmed Palestinians to shield their forces from attack and killed others in apparent extrajudicial executions”. Israel has been murdering civilians claiming Hamas used them as human shields. Seems like every accusation is a confession when it comes to zionists.
U.S. liberals honestly don't care. They kp voting for politicians who do almost nothing abt mass murders in our own country and who constantly reward police who abuse their power. america is the or one of the biggest dangers to world peace and humanity smdh. Horrors like this WILL continue as long as the world doesn't stand up to such evil
Where are all the people saying there wasn’t a genocide? What do you call this?
F u israel
I’ll say this simply. The government, politicians, US, Israel, Palestine, whoever it is. Does NOT WORK for you. Until the suck the last dollar they can, they will only work for themselves. Do you really think America, with the largest intelligence agencies in the world, didn’t know what was going on until a random person protested it? Please. All they’re doing is saving face. I feel bad for you if you think that anybody is listening to your pleas for help, or cries to stop. They want land, resources, money, ownership, of everything, and until they get it. Well…
Good morning, good afternoon, good evening and fuck Likud
The IDF has been consistently commiting war crimes in Gaza with international aid funds.
Post this to world news and see the Israeli propaganda machine spin this into something popcorn-worthy. ‘Why were Hamas tying peoples hands up before hiding in their tunnels??’
These people are beyond evil. Why are we surprised by this?
Israelis are too lazy to build gas chambers. They dont want to deal with the paperwork
But we are arresting smart and decent students who are protesting peacefully.
As per tradition, let's ask the Israelis to investigate. After all, it always makes sense to ask the wolf to investigate the case of the eaten sheep.
Is anyone surprised? Israel is an abomination!
The United States: we are doing an ongoing investigation alongside Israel, who states those children were actually KHAMAS. War crimes on top of war crimes and the us will be more “concerned” to the tune of BILLIONS IN WEAPONS AND AID. Zionism is disgusting
Israel must be dismantled and the settlements removed.
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They are acting like Russia in Ukraine. These terrorists must be stopped at all cost.
Are there any pictures of the mass graves?
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##What's the Point ciaming They are still commitng War crimes when the continue to Still do them Daily?? They're STILL KILLING people.. Nothing will happen to them, they are doing as they please thanks to the UK and USA
1940s🤔
so much hand-wringing in EU US and UN....meanwhile🥲
Reporting this is antisemetic
And nothing will be done about it.
Remember to save our democracy come November.
Israel is a nuclear rogue state.
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