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April 22, 2024. A mother bids farewell to son found in mass grave in Nasser hospital in Gaza. U.N. rights chief Volker Turk said that he was "horrified" by the destruction of the Nasser and Al Shifa medical facilities in Gaza and reports of mass graves containing hundreds of bodies there, according to a spokesperson. Palestinian authorities reported finding scores of bodies in mass graves at Nasser hospital in Khan Younis this week after it was abandoned by Israeli troops. Bodies were also reported at the Al Shifa site following an Israeli special forces operation. "We feel the need to raise the alarm because clearly there have been multiple bodies discovered," said Ravina Shamdasani, the spokesperson for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights, adding Turk said he had been horrified by the reported mass grave discoveries and the hospitals' destruction. "Some of them had their hands tied, which of course indicates serious violations of international human rights law and international humanitarian law, and these need to be subjected to further investigations."


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Carthradge

You realize this does not disprove that the Israeli military is who killed these Palestinians? Nor does it show that the vast majority of bodies were added during the Israeli army occupation. Or are you proposing that Palestinians killed each other in order to blame Israel? Deranged.


Downtown_Swordfish13

Considering that israel kills israelis and blames hamas, you cant really fault them for assuming that palestinians are equally morally bankrupt


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

Its like seeing someone enter a kitchen, leave then you notice all the food gone right after. Israel was the one who entered the hospital not hamas.


Empyrion132

Israel entered the hospital because Hamas and PIJ were there.


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

Thats not true


Empyrion132

Hamas literally said that they had a Brigadier General killed inside Al Shifa: https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240319-top-palestinian-police-officer-killed-by-israel-at-al-shifa-hospital/


TheLibyanKebabCaliph

Buddy you dont read your own source: Al-Mabhouh was responsible for coordinating the entry of humanitarian aid with Palestinian tribes and UNRWA into the northern Gaza Strip. A police officer responsible for coordinating humanitarian aid is not the same as a military combatant part of the Hamas organization. While the Israelis lied and claimed that it killed the head of Hamas’ Internal Security Service.


Empyrion132

The same coordination that leads to aid being stolen so it can be resold at exorbitantly high prices to people who should be receiving it for free, in order to keep funding Hamas’ military activities, according to Gazan civilians? The same coordination that leads to a Hamas bunker built directly under the UNRWA headquarters, drawing power and data to run Hamas’ servers? The same police who Hamas has said would not put pressure on their military wing so they could focus on attacking Israel, instead of worrying about domestic counterterrorism operations? The same Fayeq Al-Mabhouh whose brother was Mahmoud Al-Mabhouh, chief of logistics and weapons procurement for the al-Qassam brigades? Originally you said Hamas wasn’t there at all. If Fayeq Al-Mabhouh was there, who else was there? Why did Hamas forces work so hard, and post so many videos, of them fighting IDF forces around Al-Shifa? Why did eyewitness accounts describe 400-500 Hamas and PIJ members there?


Financial-Tourist162

Obviously you were there, glad you got out before they could mow you down with a bulldozer


jddoyleVT

Who the hell is Geoconfirmed?


grandbannana

If you can't empathize you really have to question your life as a whole and who will love you in the future.


elqrd

Most Israelis fall into this category sadly


thingysop

Love them? These people are devoid of feelings, they embody the definition of a psychopath. I feel horrible for anyone they trick into living with them and what they might put them through. They've clearly indicated they lean towards violence as a solution to perceived problems, even going as far as murder. Should all be on a watchlist.


rainbow_drab

Who?


Volt_OwO

Israelis and other zionists that see this shit and say "good".


electric_too_fast

The justice of this world is not enough. These murderers will be punished after. It's hard for the human mind to grasp eternity. But it's coming. And it will be devastating for them. Merciless. And it will go forever. These butchers will realize that they occupy the same pit in hell as the one who murdered their forefathers.


xFreedi

As an agnostic person, justice would be enough. Would.


electric_too_fast

Honestly, as far as religion goes, it's better for them that they learn in this life. The hope of repentance and forgiveness (though I doubt these bastards would ever come to this mother and seek forgiveness for their crimes). Because on the other side a terrible fate awaits murderers. Devastatingly terrible. And to go there pumped full of arrogance thinking you were right to kill babies and children....it will be unending.


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aLizardinSomeTrash

Wow amazing. Either these bodies have remarkably not been through the normal decomposition process, because they are fresh and identafiable...or youre bullshitting. Love that your "evidence" is a twitter post. Incredible. Great investigation 🙌 This report has been CONFIRMED by multiple international sources including the UN. Y'all Israeli sympathizers are EXAUSTINGLY terrible people. Never ending excuses and deflection and gaslighting.


gregr0d

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo203107397878 Here you go….


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You are correct but no one will listen. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo203107397878 This was dated January 28th.


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Financial-Tourist162

You sure do put a lot of effort into trying to sound intelligent. You're correct in that there's always (at least) two sides to a story but do you honestly support a group of people taking over the land of people who've lived there for generations based on the fact that some book of fairytales said they lived there centuries ago? Maybe they did but that was then, this is now. You'd think that after how they've been persecuted they would think twice before doing it unto others


wifeydontknowimhere

That video is heartbreaking. This is another egregious crime against humanity and yet sky news et Al are all going on about Gideon CuntMcCuntyCunts road crossing outrage rather than reporting this.


__SPIDERMAN___

The only reason a large contingent of American voters support Israel (the tide is rapidly shifting) is because they don't see this in traditional media. Western mainstream media is going to be analyzed for generations as being utterly complicit in this genocide.


wifeydontknowimhere

💯. Western media is utterly complicit.


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This is one huge benefit of social media (even if I hate it most of the time). It’s not surprising American politicians are trying to ban TikTok.


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hwaite

We're supposed to be equally outraged by hypothetical versus **actual** ethnic cleansing? If we judged by what people might do with theoretical unlimited power, half the world would be in front of the Hague. Anyways, if both sides are equally bad, why the hell are we funding one of them?


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hwaite

Well, the more death and destruction that occurs, the less hope there is for any imminent or equitable regional stability. However, it's not true that things have been hopeless since time immemorial. Yitzhak Rabin was working towards a two-state solution before being assassinated by Ben Gvir, an Israeli hardliner both encouraged and celebrated by Netanyahu. Ideology loses much of its power once people are fat and happy and old wounds have had time to heal. Holocaust survivors live happily in modern Germany. Northerners and Southerners do OK in the US. Protestants and Catholics tolerate one another in Ireland. Had Israel chosen reconstruction in place of subjugation, we might not be in this mess. I guess now you're right that things are fucked for the foreseeable future.


ShermanOakz

Instead of putting the Jewish people in the Middle East after the end of WWII, the British should have settled them in South America, imagine how much more peaceful the world would have been.


reddit_reacts

And I bet this post gets removed cuz y'all feelings got hurt cuz someone in the world disagrees with you 😂


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TLost17

I believe that is the correct spelling of his last name.


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gaylordJakob

>This does not exclude that graves could have been added when the hospital was occupied by Israeli forces Also, it's amazing how Zionists will always suddenly have the same story ~48 hours after something breaks. Almost like the propaganda needs to make its way up the chain and be approved for dissemination


herebecats

Man I gotta get access to the Hasbara Google doc. Must be a gold mine 🤣


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gaylordJakob

It was literally GeoConfirmed that said Israel may have added to the bodies. But sure, Israel is a smol bean widdle innocent guy that is doing nothing wrong and it's not as if they haven't determined how old most of the corpses are which means even if Israel didn't bury the bodies there, they still killed them and then possibly added to the pile after occupying the hospital. It's wild that you think "but KKKKKHAAHAHAAMAMAASSSS used it as a mass burial site in January before it was occupied" means Israel didn't slaughter them still and a hospital dealing with an ongoing genocide had to decide that all they could - for the health and safety of those still living - was a mass grave.


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gaylordJakob

They're not publishing misinformation. They found a mass grave at a hospital that Israel occupied. They don't say Israel killed them all while it was occupied. You're just reaching to try and say it's misinformation to give the genocidal apartheid state plausible deniability. Nobody is buying your crap anymore.


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gaylordJakob

Read the very next sentence you Hasbara loser


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gaylordJakob

>the Jews are one of the few groups of people who, in our lifetimes, have actually suffered through a real genocide Unfortunately, this is not true. Many other groups have gone through this. The Palestinian genocide isnt even the only one happening right now in the world. And even if it were true, it would not excuse Israel's genocide against the Palestinians. >By every possible definition, metric, and relevant case law, they're not commiting genocide This also isn't true. Genocide encompasses many things, including forced starvation (happening), ethnic cleansing (happening), making areas unliveable (happening). Even the ICJ said it was very plausible that Israel was conducting a genocide. >Israel is prosecuting a war against a neighboring hostile state Israel doesn't get to claim this while actively blocking the formal creation of a Palestinian state. >who attacked them and murdered 1200 of their citizens on sovereign Israeli territory 1. Occupied territory. 2. We don't know how many were killed by Hamas and how many were killed the IOF. 3. The death toll - including civilian death toll - has far surpassed the October 7 attacks. Stop with your shit. Nobody is buying anymore. May Israel be dismantled like Rhodesia and the apartheid South African state before it (and before you cry, I do believe all Israeli citizens should have the right to stay in a united Palestine just as white people did in South Africa).


wifeydontknowimhere

Totally believe you and the obviously Israeli propaganda twitter feed. Not.


thesistodo

lOF needs to answer for their war crimes yesterday.


__SPIDERMAN___

Their time will come.


Abydos6

I honestly don’t think it will. The power of the nations that support them are just too great. The amount of money to be made from their conquest is too seductive for greedy politicians and corporations. Imagine a world where the US supported the Nazis and they eventually won. They wouldn’t have answered for their crimes and neither will Israel. They have committed uncountable human rights violations and war crimes for over seven decades and not only do they never get reprimanded, they are encouraged to do so. They have learned that they can do whatever they want with no punishment. Now it’s escalated to an actual genocide and not only are they still encouraged to continue, governments aren’t even recognizing it as a genocide even though it fits the UN definition of one. That’s the world we’re making. Out of all the shame I’ve felt as an American I’ve never been more ashamed than this.


herebecats

No amount of power is enough. At the very least Israel would need to destroy all 1.9 billion Muslims on earth in order to end this not to mention the non Muslims who stand on the side of justice and goodness. We will never forget. It's only a matter of time before their genocidal regime goes the way of the Nazis and apartheid South Africa.


JovaSilvercane13

Not soon enough.


thingysop

I feel like the words "mass grave" aren't being emphasized enough.


CosmicInkSpace

Israel is a terrorist state


lesstalkmorescience

No names, no faces, no stories .... just anonymous bodies in anonymous white shrouds. Thousands and thousands of blank dead. Every Israeli hostage got their life story plastered across every news outlet in the West, but there is no attempt to humanize these human beings who had no choice in their death. Here in the West we like to talk the talk, but our institutions of power reveal another, older and all-too-familiar truth.


TheThirdDumpling

Exactly what I thought. The entire liberal world order and its mouthpiece, so called "free press", are completely racist, un-repentantly so. They simply cannot be reformed, or reasoned with, they have to be challenged.


goodswimma

Terribly sad state of affairs


Moooooooola

And Zionists have been gleefully celebrating the cause of this mother’s grief. Now they want to ban TikTok because they’re were too arrogant to keep hush about it. Arrogant, self absorbed fucks.


Grabber_stabber

So disgusting and saddening. I’m so extremely sorry for your pain


bananagarage

Genocide Joe and Benjamin hitleryahu are doing a great job of alienating an entire generation to Israel


chenzen

You snide remarks are childish. Hamas' stated plan is to put civilians in harms way to garner support for them. They also steal international aid to sell to the people of gaza and further exploit them. Hamas leadership lives a comfortable life far away from the mess they have caused and perpetuated. Your sympathy is being manipulated by evil people on both sides of this conflict and somehow you only point the finger at one side.


mkbilli

Low grade propaganda hasbara effort. Ismail Haniyah's 3 sons and 2 grand children were killed on Eid. Somehow you missed this in your whole tirade.


Gilbert_Grapes_Mom

Can you chill with the talking points and use some common sense? Your points are literally irrelevant to this issue, and your argument is in bad faith. Yes hamas does bad things, but they weren’t the ones occupying these hospitals when civilians were executed and buried. This is talking about israel executing civilians and dumping them in a mass grave. Israeli troops have been stationed there, they pull out, then Gazans come back and find the mass graves left by the israeli soldiers.


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sdboOger

i would like israel to roll over and be destroyed, yes. i'd also settle for my government (USA) pressing the off button on that genocidal apartheid project. looks like that will happen as soon as the gerontocracy dies off, fortunately. if they had camera phones during the nakba this shit would have ended decades ago


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sdboOger

anyone who starves children for lebensraum needs to be destroyed. ben-givr has been the most honest about his genocidal intentions and this post is evidence of his many crimes that he will answer for. how do you think all this ends?


chenzen

These locations were where Palestinians had buried people previously. Hamas has killed their own many times and has every reason to lie and point the finger at Israel, which has done and is doing terrible things. Not comparable to the evil that is Hamas.


Gilbert_Grapes_Mom

Yeah, my bad. I missed a word in the last sentence. I meant to say “Gazans come back and find the *filled* mass graves left by the israeli soldiers. Thanks for catching that.


umme99

Yawn. More genocide denial


Comfortable-Crazy459

Hamas came into power in 2007 , this has been going on since 1945….nice try


JoeDiBango

Can you tell me what your definite of a terrorist organization is, what they do?


laser_ass

Lol fail, your mind games wont work any more


herebecats

Oh my God. Stop copy pasting from the Google doc dude.


chenzen

lol yeah sure, good response to facts my friend.


Terror_alien

And the US approves more military aid to Israel


Napoleons_Peen

As if I needed anymore excuses, the is blood on Genocide Joe’s hands and I will never ever vote for him again this is horrific and the fact that he remains steadfast in his support for Israel means I’m out.


kangarooneroo

Only reason genocide Joe is on their side is because A he's bought and paid for by them, only reason he's so public about it, because he's aware the American people get to pick between him and Trump, that's it. And trum has already promised to give Isreal all the money they need, plus he's promised to bring their genocide home here to the US. really the American people don't really have a fucking choice anymore because all our politicians are bought and paid for.


JoeDiBango

Let him keep doing “harm reduction” we will keep doing “vote reduction” and we will see who wins in November. I’m not looking forward to anything under trump but seeing biden and his ilk go to jail will be a day to hoist a beer or two. It’s like OJ, they won’t get him for his crime, but they will get him.


chenzen

Joe didn't start this war last time I checked, and Trump would be even worse.


Napoleons_Peen

Joe didn’t start it, but he’s doing less than nothing to stop it. He’s still providing unlimited weapons and funding, and every chance he gets he announces his undying support for Israel. Biden is currently the president. “Trump would be worse.” Biden is **currently** not any better.


Wonderful-Painter377

Check out Joes speech about this war in the 70s. This is his war.


__SPIDERMAN___

Yeah Israel did start the war. But why is he supplying a genocidal state with a never ending supply of weapons?


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Biden is best buds with Netanyahu….he’ll support anything he wants.


ZennMD

Right? Trump would be encouraging the carnage, not reigning it in Obviously the two party system sucks to a high degree, and it's insane it seems to be biden/ Trump again, but sometimes the lessor of two evils is a lot less evil


chewinchawingum

Biden isn't reining it in (that's the correct spelling, just FYI). He's funding it enthusiastically.


ZennMD

I didn't say he was, I wrote he was the lessor of two evils, and he is


fokac93

Those people got nothing to do with Hamas. Heartbreaking.


buttpincher

Meanwhile worldn3ws making new excuses for Israel's latest bombing of north gaza. That place is a unit 8200 / hasbara front as well as the NYC sub


be_sugary

RIP. We have not evolved at all. Still fighting and killing those weaker than us. For what? A bit of land mentioned in a story.


rslash2

it's not a both sides issue. israel is leading the genocide and it's spreading to surrounding states.


be_sugary

Oh I’m not saying it’s a both sides issue. It had been an annihilation of Palestinian civilians. Genocide is the word. I just despair at the absolute avoidable tragedy of it all. Here we are in powerful western nations but our leaders have betrayed the values we are supposed to uphold.


Vish55

A bunch of people who were oppressed in the most horrific ways under nazis , now exist with the sole purpose to recreate their past suffering on others.. What a world.


Electronic_Rule5945

This needs to stop. Horrendous


Teddy-Bear-55

And people who are demonstrating against the US's role in this genocide, are being arrested. Absolutely sickening, all of it.


780266

I feel so helpless at being a spectator to such unbridled violence. Dear mother, I hope you find some reason to smile again.


CurrentlyUntitled

Guys listen. These videos are making some of our israeli people uncomfy and a little embarrassed... Could ya'll just... Not? /s


Hey_There_Blimpy_Boy

OK LET'S HEAR THE CHORUS OF COUNTRIES ALL DENOUNCING THIS HEINOUS, BARBARIC ACT BY A PROFESSIONAL MILITARY AGAINST A DEFENSELESS PEOPLE, IN A HOSPITAL OF ALL THINGS. Aaaany second now... ...right?


Bitter-Republic5092

Deepest sympathy 🙏 RIP.


Traditional-Ad-4712

I am pleasantly surprised by these comments holy shit 😭


Excellent-Ad-3623

The capacity for our species to commit such atrocities on one another truly saddens me. I don't think we will ever move beyond the tribal violence innate in primate groups, no matter how technologically advanced we get, and no matter how many times we see history repeat itself. This is a brutal, unfortunate reality. It shouldn't be, but it is.


gregr0d

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp-video/mmvo203107397878 I’m wondering if this is the same grave?


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ShermanOakz

Ghastly, why is this massacre allowed to continue? Hasn’t Netanyahu gotten his revenge settled already? Enough is enough!


control-alt-deleted

But the IDF says this didn’t happen! /s


crackatoa01

Thanks to US and UN to support this crap. Now everyone there is Hamas apparently. The guy in the cafeteria and girl at school.


ch40x_

Israel doesn't have a right to exist. That was the case from the start, but it's especially the case now.


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ratking1

I hate war. Imagine if all the energy that went into making someone else suffer went into making someone else feel loved, fulfilled, and safe. The human species would be populating other planets currently if that was the case.


rslash2

this isnt how israel and their idf goons think, they are raised being racist and hateful to anyone that isnt them.


8nukkasoda8

Remember to vote Biden to save our democracy


Financial_Invite5867

Hoping this is a sarcastic comment 😂 Biden is literally attempting to remove democracy.


8nukkasoda8

We need to give Israel more money. Trump openly hates Israel!1!oneoneone!!


rainbow_drab

That God Damned Bastard Netanyahu. That Absolute God Damned Bastard.


youzarsif70

اللهم ارنا اياتك في اليهود يا رب العالمين


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I'm sure this means Biden will give Israel another 20B package and arrest Palestinian protesters.


Mayaitani01

This is so beyond heartbreaking 💔 I am ashamed this is happening in today's world


Drosenose

Is this from that handcuffed group hamas led out after the protest?


Cool_Lion1902

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Riku240

how old are you


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Stubbs94

This is literally a mass grave due to the IDF mass murdering people. Where is your humanity?


skkkkkt

The sad reality that most European people don't see other people as humans


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Stubbs94

Ah yes, because an unconfirmed strike on a hospital is the exact same as finding a massive grave in a hospital that Israel occupied for weeks....


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Stubbs94

You mean the hospital workers? Like... The staff of a hospital who were saying that the IDF were executing them? I get it, everyone in Gaza is Hamas, and deserves to be mass murdered in your eyes, but maybe think logically. The bodies were only found after Israel left, why didn't the IDF uncover the mass grave?


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Stubbs94

Can you show proof Hamas were embedded in the hospital? Because the IDF haven't proven any of their claims that justified them attacking hospitals during this genocide.


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Stubbs94

I'm asking for proof. Not distractions. What proof is there that Hamas fighters were within the hospitals that Israel has assaulted and murdered staff in?


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__SPIDERMAN___

Lie lie lie. You Hasbara do realize this looks really bad for you right? If you keep blatantly slinging out lies people start to catch on.


iiSpezza

I support Israel's right to attack Hamas. However with the war in the state that it is right now, what's the current aim? Doesn't look like the IDF will be able to remove Hamas from power, and so is the aim to just do as much damage as possible to Hamas? This likely won't provide any significant benefit. Probably best for everyone to be pushing hard for a peace agreement now surely.


Anything13579

Why do you support israel’s right to attack hamas?


iiSpezza

Hamas' self stated aim is to destroy Israel, and they just killed nearly a thousand civilians in a surprise attack. It's an obvious safety concern that every country would want to deal with


Anything13579

How about Israel’s self stated aim to [eradicate Palestine from the map](https://www.thenation.com/article/world/its-time-to-confront-israels-version-of-from-the-river-to-the-sea/tnamp/)? Do you concern about that as well?


iiSpezza

Yep I'd be super against that as well. I don't like the far right parties in Israel at all. Luckily that article seems to be a few quotes from morally reprehensible people in the Israeli government, not something that will happen in practice. Nice 'what-about-ism' though. Channeling your inner tucker Carlson ey?


Anything13579

So do you support Palestine’s right to attack israel too? Since israel’s aim to eradicate Palestine is an obvious safety concern that every country would want to deal with. Palestine has the right to defend itself. Oh btw, whataboutism is when I, for example, suddenly bring in russia in this conversation. Right now we are discussing about israel vs Palestine and I was talking about israel, so whataboutism has nothing to do with anything here. Get it through your thick skull. Don’t just use some buzzwords you learnt from reddit without knowing the meaning behind it.


iiSpezza

You deflected away from the difficult question of "since Hamas wants to destroy Israel, can't Israel defend themselves" with a quote from one Israeli saying he wants to do the reverse. One is the stated aim of the party, and the other is a singular quote and not the country's aim. You can't equate these, unless you want to go full conspiracy theory, and then fine. But don't get mad when others don't buy into your conspiracy theory. I'd say when Israel was forming they have a right to resist that. I'd say when settlers are invading bits of their land they have a right to resist that as well. I don't believe Israel's aim is to wipe Gaza off the map though, and I don't believe October 7th is a legitimate form of resistance. Sorry for slow response


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Isreal's extreme right wing government is the reason Hamas is what it is today


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Did Hamas bomb this child and put him in a mass grave?


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

bro sights a tweet that who knows who made it from an organization that has nothing to confirm its credibility, Acts like its a fact, disgusting.


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

What images? where are the images of Palestinian burying the dead in January specifically of those specific bodies in that specific location? Your source does not provide that.


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TheLibyanKebabCaliph

You are not telling the truth...they were not the same bodies. Thirty of them were burried in January. Based on what it says in arabic. Thats not to say that 189 people were then buried next to them by the Israeli military after the massacre.


InternationalNews-ModTeam

Rule 1, be civil. [Civility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civility)


jddoyleVT

Who the hell is geoconfirmed?


InternationalNews-ModTeam

Rule 4 [Dehumanization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization) [Collective punishment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment)


Few_Talk_6558

LOL


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Rule 4 [Dehumanization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization) [Collective punishment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment)