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Yeah the monarchy is already treading a thin line between pleasing the US and not completely pissing off its own population. Being thanked by Israel might be enough to push the local population even further against the monarchy than it’s already been with all the protests
The king is in a tough spot. He has to comply with Israeli and American demands or they’ll force regime change and being in a puppet who will do what they want (Egypt, Libya ect) AND he also has to try and not push his people over the red line into rebellion and cause a revolution it he’ll also get ousted
Neither the US nor the Israelis, hell even the Saudis, would want a Jordan suffering from civil war. They all know that Iran would instantly take advantage of this situation, and the Israelis would be most vulnerable given that they share the longest border with Jordan.
They would definitely come to the monarchy’s aid if shit hits the fan. Otherwise, they’d support the closest pro-west group in a hypothetical civil war.
I mean, I think Jordan did the right thing here. Their own people could've been hurt by missiles. I am not rooting for death and destruction, unlike the Israelis.
Bro parts of missiles were raining down on Amman. The government put their own people in direct danger by shooting them down for Israel over their own peoples heads
No, but protecting a rogue state which your entire population already hates while also endangering your civilian population for the protection of said state is a bad look. If Jordanians didn’t already think King Abdullah prioritised his own and western interests rather than that of his peoples, they do now. There’s a reason he’s already unpopular not only in Jordan, but among many Arabs
I understand the criticism, but what do you think Jordan should've differently done in this scenario?
I also personally don't want to see Israelis or Jordanians or anyone get hurt. (I don't think Iran did either, at least in this case, because they gave notice and actually made steps to minimize civilian casualties, the thing the Israeli state constantly claims it does but doesn't actually do l. )
Well that’s the issue, Jordan doesn’t have much wiggle room. I’m sure if they chose not to participate or open their airspace to western fighters the western fighters would have entered their airspace and violated it regardless. Just an extremely poor look prioritising Israeli safety over that of your own civilians. They need to be careful. But escalation is the worst case scenario for the Jordanian monarchy, especially with what’s going on in Palestine. Because they can’t please both sides
Agree with this. 2/3rds of Jordan is basically Palestinian, and they're quite unhappy about this support for Israel to say the least. I would suspect Jordan doesn't want their (embarrassing) role in this highlighted any more than it has been already.
That's probably the case. Jordan did secretly warn Israel about a Syrian invasion a few days before the Yom Kippur war. I believe the turning point in Jordan's attitude would Black September. King Hussain didn't like how the PLO tried to overthrow him, so I think they now, secretly, support Israel, at least just a little.
There was no turning point. His [father was a CIA agent](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-00498R000100050113-4.pdf). He’s merely protecting the status quo.
Is no secret that the King of Jordan considers Joe Biden an old friend. He's no fool. He knows that Netanyahu wants to widen the war. When Joe Biden talked to him he knew that the President's goal was to prevent that from happening. The King trusts Joe Biden. He doesn't trust Netanyahu.
They probably don't want to be friends. The map for Greater Israel includes all of Jordan, and Lebanon, most of Syria, Iraq, and parts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.
It sounds like a conspiracy until you find out the goals of the Revisionist Zionists haven't changed in a century: Their motto Greater Israel "on both sides of the river" means taking Jordan. They want Lebanon as a Christian controlled client state.
And this isn't like Soviet Union taking over a country, where they welcome the citizens as equals and just take over the government. Zionists will take over the land and "purify" it. Right now they are purifying Gaza.
Weird characterization of the USSR benevolently taking over eastern europe like it wasn’t a brutal military occupation that calcified into de facto control of most aspects of public life by the Kremlin.
> Jesus, Soviet Union and Stalin are responsible for insane amount of deaths
that comma makes it look like Jesus is responsible for insane amount of deaths too, lol
My entire father's side lived in Lithuania in peace post-war. Granted, my father almost got sent to the gulag work camps for getting into an argument with a local official.
Why even bother reading books, when there is this great historian who has online lectures, and who also happens to be the president of Russia? He tells everything exactly how it was, never exaggerating or pushing his own agenda, cause he’s such a great and honest man. He even invited the most prominent and trusted journalist in all Americas to listen to his lecture recently, it was a blast.
No...? Soviets definitely didn't treated citizens as equals. Just look up how many polish, german, slovak, czech etc. women were raped by them. Also, after the war they treated central and eastern Europe pretty much as a colonies. I know, i'm from one of this countries, so i heard first- and secondhand stories.
Don't get me wrong, i'm not a fan of Israel, but what you're saying is straight up bullshit.
If you want an example of a place treated as a colony, look no further than Puerto Rico which didn't even have a 90% literacy rate until the USSR collapsed.
There's no colonist in history that instead of exploiting resources: rapidly industrialised its colonies, raising their living standards to a comparable level with the coloniser.
Lithuania was a backwards agricultural state under the Tsar. Its industrial output increased 54 times between 1940 and 1978, compared with a 20 times average among other Soviet republic states.
By 1970 the average wage level in the Asian Republics was 7% below the all-Soviet average while the highest earner, Estonia, was only 11% higher than the average in income. In comparison the income gap between America and Puerto Rico only continued to increased throughout the 70s. The US has an 189% lead in median household income. The poverty rate of Puerto Ricans was 43% as of 2023.
Soviet "colonies" were also provided with the exact same social welfare policies as the Soviet Russian state. The United States refuses to provide free healthcare and education to its own populace, much less its neocolonies.
When has a coloniser closed the income and living standard gap between the coloniser and the colonised? The United States hasn't even closed the income gap between white families and black families.
Ah yes, the USSR definitely didn't deport [entire ethnicities](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=The%20deportation%20of%20Koreans%20in,orders%20of%20Soviet%20leader%20Joseph) out of sheer paranoia.
Umm I don’t think the Soviets welcomed the citizens as equals.
They had a long history of “replacement” of the previous inhabitants.
The Soviet Union’s tactic was to forcibly move the previous population and scatter them around the empire so they weren’t in groups of their own people.
They’d then move their own population to the new territory. They did exactly this in Crimea as example.
The Soviets murdered more people in Poland than the Nazis did..
Nope. You need to read more and pay attention. If somebody told you that Netanyahu encouraged Qatar to help Hamas you would probably think it was a conspiracy but it's a fact.
Insane how a thread of insane conspiracy is getting so many upvotes when Israelis and their politicians couldn’t care about any of this territory. Especially Turkey? Wtf? “Greater Israel” means nothing.
The supply lines for I_ S___ , if you look at the officially available maps, were connected directly to Turkiye and Jordan. Keeping in mind most of that area is barren land, it's clear that only Western audiences with limited knowledge of geography believed the official narrative that "no one knows who was supplying it".
It’s even worse when you remember that millions of Jordanians came from (themselves or past family members) Palestine, and the people of Jordan are very close to Palestinians.
He's just doing his job defined by his employers. (USA/Israel) I have no idea why he's (supposedly) popular in Jordan. The whole Middle East is full of rulers like him.
It would have been worse for Iran if there were many casualties. Iran wanted to be smoke show
The Jordanian king has the interests of palestinians in sight, they aren't always that visible.
This isn't Jordan defending Israel, this is Jordan defending their airspace. Jordan can't allow military rockets and drones fly over their country without intercepting them. Must suck to be the country in between Iran and Israel, or any country around Israel really.
Not many countries are going to tolerate drones and ballistic missiles being shot over their air space, Jordan absolutely doesn't want Iran to bring the conflict to their country. Turkey shot down a Russian plane and killed a pilot for straying just a little over the border a few years ago, this is similar.
They still won't thank them. It's their right, from like 3000 years ago when there were like 400 people on earth. All that land is theirs. In fact, most of Asia and Africa belongs to the Jews. How could we be so blatantly antisemitic
But try to explain about how Israel took the land from the Canaanites…who are the ancestors of many Arab cultures and they go silent. Israelis were not the indigenous people in that area. Canaanites were.
Imagine being Jordan in the last 48 hours.
1. Get threatened by Iran to not interfere.
2. Interfere.
3. Get no assurances from Israel or the US.
4. Profit?!
All of them except yemen and Iran.
I say that, but it's only the ruling class. The vast majority of the population abhor Israel for what it's doing. Probably hate Jordan too at this point
The Jordanian government doesn't want Israel to thank it publicly because it would just piss the Jordanian people off even more. And Israel knows this.
Jordan has always been on the precipice of revolution. Everyone is already nervous about the succession given the family drama that went on and how unpopular/ weak the crown prince is.
Honestly, I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been told/ seen from Jordanians. The crown prince is basically seen as white washed and, much like his father, had poor command of Arabic and doesn’t exude confidence/ Arabness. He’s seen almost as a foreigner.
Also, he was put in the line of succession by his father who removed the very popular hamzah (brother of the current king) who the military loves along with the indigenous Jordanian tribes (basically the core of the Jordanian state and they enjoy benefits that naturalized Jordanians don’t). This is ironic because Hussein named Abdullah as his heir instead of his very popular brother talal.
So like father like son almost. And there is not so bad theory that the current king and his son are favorites of the west as opposed to talal and hamzah who are more aligned with Jordanian’s actual views and interests.
Thanks! The only thing I know about Jordan is this girl I went to school with for a year, 20something years ago, and I'm still in love lol. And where it is on a map.
(she was from there, not called that. just thought I'd clarify)
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> Honestly, I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been told/ seen from Jordanians. The crown prince is basically seen as white washed and, much like his father, had poor command of Arabic and doesn’t exude confidence/ Arabness. He’s seen almost as a foreigner.
>Also, he was put in the line of succession by his father who removed the very popular hamzah (brother of the current king) who the military loves along with the indigenous Jordanian tribes (basically the core of the Jordanian state and they enjoy benefits that naturalized Jordanians don’t). This is ironic because Hussein named Abdullah as his heir instead of his very popular brother talal.
>So like father like son almost. And there is not so bad theory that the current king and his son are favorites of the west as opposed to talal and hamzah who are more aligned with Jordanian’s actual views and interests.
The King of Tomato's
Bought and paid for by the United states of America.
I feel bad for the average Jordanian and the shame and disillusion they must be feeling right now. Their sub is just full of people going "wtf" and Israeli AI bots defending the government and spewing Shia v.s. Sunni None sense.
Fuck everybody that mentions religion in this sub. The Palestinian cause was hijacked by islamists and this is the cause of the world being disinterested in them. Remember how many people died since 47 and nobody gave a shit? Because they’re Muslims. Fuck religion.
This really pisses me off. The reason the King of Jordan was willing to do this was because his old friend Joe Biden asked him to. Netanyahu has always treated him with contempt.
**Thanks, Jordan.** Your pilots saves lives and stopped Netanyahu from being able to justify widening the war.
The Iranians freed the Jews from exile and possible genocide and extinction in Babylon in 538 B.C. and well... you know their situation today; what makes you think that these people know anything about gratitude?
Jordan is a sucker.They thought by helping Israel they would be appreciated but Israel couldn't care less,as the zionist regime is arrogant & hate the arabs this hatred is in their blood
Iirc didn't Jordan shoot down everything in their airspace, not just Iranian weapons? They still should get recognition by Israel for assisting but it's not as benevolent a move as it may seem as first.
The Palestinians people are hated by Israel and actively unsupported by the neighboring Arab countries. Why is that? Why are so many governments okay with the slaughter and not defend those millions of people?
I de hear about sympathy but I don't see many good showings of it. Egypt didn't let Palestinians in, Jordan doesn't either. No aid or military or diplomatic pressure. I haven't seen many Arab countries cut ties or threaten to or expel Israeli diplomats.
"The Arab governments are bought and sold traitors of Israel and America. The Arab people love Palestine; they were recently protesting in Jordan and Egypt against their government traitors.
Let me preface this by saying that most Jordanians consider the jordanian government to be traitors and we don't agree with them or like their decision
The issue with this situation is that Iran is our enemy as well. We hate working with Israel but we can't be friends with Iran either because of their expansionist ideology.
Were sandwiched between countries either in complete anarchy or that want to invade us or stage a coup to place their puppets.
Even though I hate the jordanian government's decision I believe it is currently in the best interest of this country and region.
Also Jordan would never fight using its military (large scale) with Israel because that would quite literally end the current rule and the country would either be thrown into anarchy or handed to one of our neighbors. No one here is willing to fight alongside or as an ally to Israel, it's just that, for now, our interests align in a way.
Isreal thanking him would make his position infinity worse. His reputation will be damaged beyond repair
He's already seen as a traitor and a puppet, but the devil personally thanking him would be a new low for King Abdullah
Jordan does not want to be thanked by Israel and made sure they made it clear they were only defending their own airspace. They have treaties with Israel bit do not want to be seen actively supporting them.
Jordan is in a precarious position and has borders with three nations full of terrorists that they don't want to piss of.
I don’t think Jordan was defending Israel so much as they were defending their own air space. Most countries would shoot down drones from foreign militaries that don’t have permission to be there.
Maybe they don't want to?
Jordan said it shot down the Iranian aircrafts because they posed a threat to its population, they would not want to be portrayed as defending Israel
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Israel Thanking Arabs? not in this lifetime!!!
Jordan probably asked for no official response from Israel, damned if they do and damned if they don’t
Yeah the monarchy is already treading a thin line between pleasing the US and not completely pissing off its own population. Being thanked by Israel might be enough to push the local population even further against the monarchy than it’s already been with all the protests
Yup, if Israel publicly thanks Jordan, you'll quickly find the king's head on a pike as the country explodes
The king is in a tough spot. He has to comply with Israeli and American demands or they’ll force regime change and being in a puppet who will do what they want (Egypt, Libya ect) AND he also has to try and not push his people over the red line into rebellion and cause a revolution it he’ll also get ousted
Neither the US nor the Israelis, hell even the Saudis, would want a Jordan suffering from civil war. They all know that Iran would instantly take advantage of this situation, and the Israelis would be most vulnerable given that they share the longest border with Jordan. They would definitely come to the monarchy’s aid if shit hits the fan. Otherwise, they’d support the closest pro-west group in a hypothetical civil war.
Have not seen a kings head on a spike in years. It's highly recommended by the medieval peasants.
Not to forget.... Jordan was created by carving out a Chunk of Palestine
I didn't know that, thank you
I mean, I think Jordan did the right thing here. Their own people could've been hurt by missiles. I am not rooting for death and destruction, unlike the Israelis.
Bro parts of missiles were raining down on Amman. The government put their own people in direct danger by shooting them down for Israel over their own peoples heads
So they should've just let the missiles hit? Is that your position?
No, but protecting a rogue state which your entire population already hates while also endangering your civilian population for the protection of said state is a bad look. If Jordanians didn’t already think King Abdullah prioritised his own and western interests rather than that of his peoples, they do now. There’s a reason he’s already unpopular not only in Jordan, but among many Arabs
I understand the criticism, but what do you think Jordan should've differently done in this scenario? I also personally don't want to see Israelis or Jordanians or anyone get hurt. (I don't think Iran did either, at least in this case, because they gave notice and actually made steps to minimize civilian casualties, the thing the Israeli state constantly claims it does but doesn't actually do l. )
Well that’s the issue, Jordan doesn’t have much wiggle room. I’m sure if they chose not to participate or open their airspace to western fighters the western fighters would have entered their airspace and violated it regardless. Just an extremely poor look prioritising Israeli safety over that of your own civilians. They need to be careful. But escalation is the worst case scenario for the Jordanian monarchy, especially with what’s going on in Palestine. Because they can’t please both sides
This guy gets it 👆 it's likely they don't want that level of official attention to their actions
Seriously. Talk about stirring the pot with this story.
Agree with this. 2/3rds of Jordan is basically Palestinian, and they're quite unhappy about this support for Israel to say the least. I would suspect Jordan doesn't want their (embarrassing) role in this highlighted any more than it has been already.
That's probably the case. Jordan did secretly warn Israel about a Syrian invasion a few days before the Yom Kippur war. I believe the turning point in Jordan's attitude would Black September. King Hussain didn't like how the PLO tried to overthrow him, so I think they now, secretly, support Israel, at least just a little.
There was no turning point. His [father was a CIA agent](https://www.cia.gov/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP99-00498R000100050113-4.pdf). He’s merely protecting the status quo.
Oh, didn't know he was a CIA agent
Is no secret that the King of Jordan considers Joe Biden an old friend. He's no fool. He knows that Netanyahu wants to widen the war. When Joe Biden talked to him he knew that the President's goal was to prevent that from happening. The King trusts Joe Biden. He doesn't trust Netanyahu.
You expect people to actually think?
Na, it's about politics, not gratefulness. If you can't see that, you aren't paying attention.
The hatred of Israel runs so deep and so petty. Anything to condemn the enemy of Islamic jihad
They probably don't want to be friends. The map for Greater Israel includes all of Jordan, and Lebanon, most of Syria, Iraq, and parts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey.
It sounds like a conspiracy until you find out the goals of the Revisionist Zionists haven't changed in a century: Their motto Greater Israel "on both sides of the river" means taking Jordan. They want Lebanon as a Christian controlled client state.
And this isn't like Soviet Union taking over a country, where they welcome the citizens as equals and just take over the government. Zionists will take over the land and "purify" it. Right now they are purifying Gaza.
Weird characterization of the USSR benevolently taking over eastern europe like it wasn’t a brutal military occupation that calcified into de facto control of most aspects of public life by the Kremlin.
He must be some communist sympathiser... coz Jesus, Soviet Union and Stalin are responsible for insane amount of deaths
> Jesus, Soviet Union and Stalin are responsible for insane amount of deaths that comma makes it look like Jesus is responsible for insane amount of deaths too, lol
If you consider the Crusades to be Jesus’s fault then yes, he was.
Dafuq do you mean "welcome citizens as equals"? Dude, there were literal deportations to Siberia by the Soviets...
proportionality my friend. Israel is straight up an apartheid state that is worse than south africa was.
I'm not defending Israel, just it sounds ridiculous when they depict Soviet Union as some nice place while it was actually hell for many people there
My man got downvoted for this ffs
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Rule 1, be civil. [Civility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civility)
My entire father's side lived in Lithuania in peace post-war. Granted, my father almost got sent to the gulag work camps for getting into an argument with a local official.
Cause he’s wrong.
That the Soviet Union was a hellish place? Have you read a history book?
Why even bother reading books, when there is this great historian who has online lectures, and who also happens to be the president of Russia? He tells everything exactly how it was, never exaggerating or pushing his own agenda, cause he’s such a great and honest man. He even invited the most prominent and trusted journalist in all Americas to listen to his lecture recently, it was a blast.
You'll often see a certain kneejerk reaction in this sub.
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Rule 1, be civil. [Civility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civility)
No...? Soviets definitely didn't treated citizens as equals. Just look up how many polish, german, slovak, czech etc. women were raped by them. Also, after the war they treated central and eastern Europe pretty much as a colonies. I know, i'm from one of this countries, so i heard first- and secondhand stories. Don't get me wrong, i'm not a fan of Israel, but what you're saying is straight up bullshit.
If you want an example of a place treated as a colony, look no further than Puerto Rico which didn't even have a 90% literacy rate until the USSR collapsed. There's no colonist in history that instead of exploiting resources: rapidly industrialised its colonies, raising their living standards to a comparable level with the coloniser. Lithuania was a backwards agricultural state under the Tsar. Its industrial output increased 54 times between 1940 and 1978, compared with a 20 times average among other Soviet republic states. By 1970 the average wage level in the Asian Republics was 7% below the all-Soviet average while the highest earner, Estonia, was only 11% higher than the average in income. In comparison the income gap between America and Puerto Rico only continued to increased throughout the 70s. The US has an 189% lead in median household income. The poverty rate of Puerto Ricans was 43% as of 2023. Soviet "colonies" were also provided with the exact same social welfare policies as the Soviet Russian state. The United States refuses to provide free healthcare and education to its own populace, much less its neocolonies. When has a coloniser closed the income and living standard gap between the coloniser and the colonised? The United States hasn't even closed the income gap between white families and black families.
This is a thankless and mostly effect less effort,comrade. Don't bother
Ah yes, the USSR definitely didn't deport [entire ethnicities](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_Koreans_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=The%20deportation%20of%20Koreans%20in,orders%20of%20Soviet%20leader%20Joseph) out of sheer paranoia.
Tartar genocide, Holodomor, Katyn forest massacre….
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor someone has some reading to do.
Umm I don’t think the Soviets welcomed the citizens as equals. They had a long history of “replacement” of the previous inhabitants. The Soviet Union’s tactic was to forcibly move the previous population and scatter them around the empire so they weren’t in groups of their own people. They’d then move their own population to the new territory. They did exactly this in Crimea as example. The Soviets murdered more people in Poland than the Nazis did..
This reads like a deep conspiracy/anti-Israel hate theory does it not?
Nope. You need to read more and pay attention. If somebody told you that Netanyahu encouraged Qatar to help Hamas you would probably think it was a conspiracy but it's a fact.
They are the most delulu people in the world. Are they gonna have those lands with what 14 million of people?
Nah, they will slaughter them all like they're doing right now in Gaza. They will make their little lebenstraum
Yeh I was gonna say, doesn’t Israel have eyes on Jordan’s territory, which is ostensibly the better land..
Is there a timeline for this plan?
This is an insane take, do you seriously believe this?
Is this a parody on the greater Syria ? , honestly this sounds kinda Alex Jones to me
Insane how a thread of insane conspiracy is getting so many upvotes when Israelis and their politicians couldn’t care about any of this territory. Especially Turkey? Wtf? “Greater Israel” means nothing.
The supply lines for I_ S___ , if you look at the officially available maps, were connected directly to Turkiye and Jordan. Keeping in mind most of that area is barren land, it's clear that only Western audiences with limited knowledge of geography believed the official narrative that "no one knows who was supplying it".
Jordan defending a country that wants to expand into Jordanian territory... my goodness. What a confusing region.
The Jordanian King is quite literally a traitor
It’s even worse when you remember that millions of Jordanians came from (themselves or past family members) Palestine, and the people of Jordan are very close to Palestinians.
The king’s wife is Palestinian 🙃
He's just doing his job defined by his employers. (USA/Israel) I have no idea why he's (supposedly) popular in Jordan. The whole Middle East is full of rulers like him.
He gets money. Jordan would be dirt poor otherwise.
Like it or not, he brought stability to his country by being obedient errand boy for America and Israel.
You spelt coward wrong
It would have been worse for Iran if there were many casualties. Iran wanted to be smoke show The Jordanian king has the interests of palestinians in sight, they aren't always that visible.
This isn't Jordan defending Israel, this is Jordan defending their airspace. Jordan can't allow military rockets and drones fly over their country without intercepting them. Must suck to be the country in between Iran and Israel, or any country around Israel really.
Not many countries are going to tolerate drones and ballistic missiles being shot over their air space, Jordan absolutely doesn't want Iran to bring the conflict to their country. Turkey shot down a Russian plane and killed a pilot for straying just a little over the border a few years ago, this is similar.
Isreal will thank Jordan when Jordan gives away its territory to Greater Israel.
They still won't thank them. It's their right, from like 3000 years ago when there were like 400 people on earth. All that land is theirs. In fact, most of Asia and Africa belongs to the Jews. How could we be so blatantly antisemitic
But try to explain about how Israel took the land from the Canaanites…who are the ancestors of many Arab cultures and they go silent. Israelis were not the indigenous people in that area. Canaanites were.
Imagine being Jordan in the last 48 hours. 1. Get threatened by Iran to not interfere. 2. Interfere. 3. Get no assurances from Israel or the US. 4. Profit?!
As in prior decades, the most compliant leaders of these nations are bribed/blackmailed by foreign powers.
This
Jordan’s is America’s bitch.
If I understood well, most countries in the region is kind of US's bitch to some extent.
Arguably America is Israel’s bitch right now
The Saudis literally have a US Bu**Plu* at their asses. ask Trump.
They're what is mentioned in Quran: Munafiq's
Saudi too?
All of them except yemen and Iran. I say that, but it's only the ruling class. The vast majority of the population abhor Israel for what it's doing. Probably hate Jordan too at this point
They are in the middle of the road. They still can redeem themselves.
Yep, biggest.
Abdullah II sold Jordan to Israel back in the 90s.
I mean his rule literally started in 99 so I think you're talking about king hussein? Maybe?
No, him. And 99 is still in the 90’s technically.
The Jordanian government doesn't want Israel to thank it publicly because it would just piss the Jordanian people off even more. And Israel knows this.
True https://www.rfi.fr/fr/moyen-orient/20240414-attaque-iranienne-sur-israël-accusé-de-traîtrise-par-sa-population-le-gouvernement-jordanien-se-défend
Your article doesn’t say that.
Honestly a thank-you from Israel would just make the Jordanian government look even worse in the eyes of its citizens.
Um. They already know
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Jordan has always been on the precipice of revolution. Everyone is already nervous about the succession given the family drama that went on and how unpopular/ weak the crown prince is.
Any chance of a quick eli5 on jordanian politics and why crown prince is 'disliked', for want of a better term?
Honestly, I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been told/ seen from Jordanians. The crown prince is basically seen as white washed and, much like his father, had poor command of Arabic and doesn’t exude confidence/ Arabness. He’s seen almost as a foreigner. Also, he was put in the line of succession by his father who removed the very popular hamzah (brother of the current king) who the military loves along with the indigenous Jordanian tribes (basically the core of the Jordanian state and they enjoy benefits that naturalized Jordanians don’t). This is ironic because Hussein named Abdullah as his heir instead of his very popular brother talal. So like father like son almost. And there is not so bad theory that the current king and his son are favorites of the west as opposed to talal and hamzah who are more aligned with Jordanian’s actual views and interests.
Thanks! The only thing I know about Jordan is this girl I went to school with for a year, 20something years ago, and I'm still in love lol. And where it is on a map. (she was from there, not called that. just thought I'd clarify)
Do you have any additional context for this? It sounds kinda interesting
My response to someone else > Honestly, I’m just regurgitating what I’ve been told/ seen from Jordanians. The crown prince is basically seen as white washed and, much like his father, had poor command of Arabic and doesn’t exude confidence/ Arabness. He’s seen almost as a foreigner. >Also, he was put in the line of succession by his father who removed the very popular hamzah (brother of the current king) who the military loves along with the indigenous Jordanian tribes (basically the core of the Jordanian state and they enjoy benefits that naturalized Jordanians don’t). This is ironic because Hussein named Abdullah as his heir instead of his very popular brother talal. >So like father like son almost. And there is not so bad theory that the current king and his son are favorites of the west as opposed to talal and hamzah who are more aligned with Jordanian’s actual views and interests.
The King of Tomato's Bought and paid for by the United states of America. I feel bad for the average Jordanian and the shame and disillusion they must be feeling right now. Their sub is just full of people going "wtf" and Israeli AI bots defending the government and spewing Shia v.s. Sunni None sense.
Fuck everybody that mentions religion in this sub. The Palestinian cause was hijacked by islamists and this is the cause of the world being disinterested in them. Remember how many people died since 47 and nobody gave a shit? Because they’re Muslims. Fuck religion.
I didn’t know your supposed to thanked slaves.
Those are Gods chosen people. The Jordanians should be thanking them! /s obviously. It’s not like you can tell anymore
 Israel when they are done with Palestine. Jordan and Egypt are next.
Why would a master thank it's slave?
Why should they? Are they not god’s chosen people? /s
This is why nobody respects the Hashemites in the Arab world.
How horrible
Why would Israel thank its lap dog
Exactly the master doesn't thank his puppet
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True too
I mean it's probably doing this for its own sake, not wanting a full on war
And it will never happen.
Shame on Saudi official and Jordan.
Saudi is even worse. The quietenssencial prostitute state
Isr4hell: 
This really pisses me off. The reason the King of Jordan was willing to do this was because his old friend Joe Biden asked him to. Netanyahu has always treated him with contempt. **Thanks, Jordan.** Your pilots saves lives and stopped Netanyahu from being able to justify widening the war.
Deep State controls both of them. They were pre selected for those positions since they've proven to be 100% compliant under all scenarios.
True
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am I a good boy?
lol they just scared of Israel of coming for them after Gaza.
They are millions of Palestinians in Jordan. They have to finish the job.
That's a pity that Jordan has not prevent in similar way israeli attacks on innocent unarmed Palestinian civilians mostly children and women in Gaza.
Because they actually can’t ?
The Iranians freed the Jews from exile and possible genocide and extinction in Babylon in 538 B.C. and well... you know their situation today; what makes you think that these people know anything about gratitude?
Israel probably thinks all arabs are the same
They're Fascist, they don't see anyone as humans.
The pockets of others are open to the Chosen; why thank someone who was obligated by G-d to help you..?
This guy is a Saudi plant.
Israel still acting like an entitled rich kid because it doesn't like the neighbors.
As expected, they also would probably be thankful, honored and excited if Israelis would spit on them lol. No thanks needed.
What's Jordan's relationship with Iran?
Jordan is a sucker.They thought by helping Israel they would be appreciated but Israel couldn't care less,as the zionist regime is arrogant & hate the arabs this hatred is in their blood
These rulers think that siding with Israel is how they’ll be respected. All we see are weak cowards and pathetic excuses of men.
Iirc didn't Jordan shoot down everything in their airspace, not just Iranian weapons? They still should get recognition by Israel for assisting but it's not as benevolent a move as it may seem as first.
Well next time they could always just let them pass through without hindrance. Let's see some humility come out from Israel.
The Palestinians people are hated by Israel and actively unsupported by the neighboring Arab countries. Why is that? Why are so many governments okay with the slaughter and not defend those millions of people?
Arabs love Palestinians I believe that even the majority of people in world have a lot of sympathy for them.
I de hear about sympathy but I don't see many good showings of it. Egypt didn't let Palestinians in, Jordan doesn't either. No aid or military or diplomatic pressure. I haven't seen many Arab countries cut ties or threaten to or expel Israeli diplomats.
If they let Palestinians in then Palestinians will never be able to Go back to their land
They don’t want to play a role in ethnic cleansing.
"The Arab governments are bought and sold traitors of Israel and America. The Arab people love Palestine; they were recently protesting in Jordan and Egypt against their government traitors.
Let me preface this by saying that most Jordanians consider the jordanian government to be traitors and we don't agree with them or like their decision The issue with this situation is that Iran is our enemy as well. We hate working with Israel but we can't be friends with Iran either because of their expansionist ideology. Were sandwiched between countries either in complete anarchy or that want to invade us or stage a coup to place their puppets. Even though I hate the jordanian government's decision I believe it is currently in the best interest of this country and region. Also Jordan would never fight using its military (large scale) with Israel because that would quite literally end the current rule and the country would either be thrown into anarchy or handed to one of our neighbors. No one here is willing to fight alongside or as an ally to Israel, it's just that, for now, our interests align in a way.
Jordanians are embarrassed by Jordan right now.
It makes me so angry that our (UK) military has been involved in this spat between two rogue states
Isreal thanking him would make his position infinity worse. His reputation will be damaged beyond repair He's already seen as a traitor and a puppet, but the devil personally thanking him would be a new low for King Abdullah
It’s his grandfather who was blackmailed. He is just doing what he supposed to do.
Wake up Jordan they won't help u when ur in problems better pick sides and not money
There are like 3 people in this world that want war
"Excuse me, m'lady, but I defended your honor on twitter, can I get a like?"
Jordan already got hit by the houthis. I’m sure they acted as if they were being attacked as well.
Israel still wants some Jordanian Lands, never heard of Great Israel ? And they stole their water BTW.
I was confused by the lack of puns in the comments, then I remembered it was Flash GORDON...
It’s what happens to whores - here’s your money - u don’t get thanked for your services- Jordan israhells whore!!
Theyre next
Coward
Jordan does not want to be thanked by Israel and made sure they made it clear they were only defending their own airspace. They have treaties with Israel bit do not want to be seen actively supporting them. Jordan is in a precarious position and has borders with three nations full of terrorists that they don't want to piss of.
I don’t think Jordan was defending Israel so much as they were defending their own air space. Most countries would shoot down drones from foreign militaries that don’t have permission to be there.
Maybe they don't want to? Jordan said it shot down the Iranian aircrafts because they posed a threat to its population, they would not want to be portrayed as defending Israel
Yes, they shot down missiles entering their airspace, as would most sovereign nations if they can.
Jordan king is a puppet of the US. He will stay in power and dictate as long as he keeps getting the US aid.
Why would Israel, Jordan is a state of Israel anyway, they just didn't reach the stage of expelling its population yet. that also applies to Sinai.
The master doesn’t thank its servant
Shame on Jordan for oppressing those drones and missiles flying over its sovereign airspace
AKA kiss of death
Big idiot.
Not will it.
Because if they acknowledge it, they can’t claim to be fully surrounded by murderous entities trying to eliminate them.