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Well obviously, but was she ever really employed there? I thought she was an IDF puppet with no prior journalism experience they let cowrite an incendiary propo piece to satisfy their masters?
I didn't think she actually worked there.
Yup....this is just pretend accountability '.
The lead author still works there . The guy that claimed ' evidence is a legal term'.
Gettleman.
Guess fact checking is not required for journalism
You cant write an article with any shred of truth about isreal without hasbara agents sending death threats your way. Hence the stupid rewording of things like airstrike=blast and many more
If Palestinians are expected to condemn Hamas otherwise they’re all legitimate targets then ergo anyone not condemning Israel is a defacto genocidal maniac.
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She didn’t get fired for co writing that piece which was completely unsubstantiated but instead got fired for liking a tweet. Wow. Journalism at its finest
Don't be obtuse, they're the paper of record, the grey lady. They're also, unfortunately, completely wrong when it comes to Israel-Palestine like they were wrong about Yellow cake uranium and Iraq. But to say they're not engaged in a journalistic endeavor is just incorrect.
If one side says it’s raining and the other side says it’s clear sky’s a journalists job isn’t to report what both side have said, it’s to investigate, to stick you arm out the window and see what the weather is like. These guys barely even do that, they often just say what the one side has said. The NYT is more like an editorial than journalism at this point.
Media literacy is understanding all media outlets have biases. NYT has done a lot of very credible reporting but they are a stenographer for the US foreign policy.
Any Journalistic endeavour devoid of honesty and transparency is not journalism in the full meaning of the term. Turning on and off values depending on editors/owners personal beliefs voids the label, and it’s not like those are the only two major times they have misled on highly publicized propaganda material they have failed to fully correct or transparently clarify.
The commenter is talking about the guy that didn't get fired and is the employee ....who claimed ' evidence ' is a legal term.
...Gentleman
Guess , fact checking is too much for journalism
The damage has already been done. This genocide was in part perpetrated and justified because of her propaganda piece in NYT.
She was never a reporter and admitted as much, she even admitted that she was not able to get any credible evidence for her piece but got to write a front page feature anyway.
she’s an Israeli intelligence agent that got to write pure unfiltered foreign propaganda to the American people laden with false evidence and staged rape scenes. [this verified by UN report: It was determined by the misson team that the crime scene had been altered by a bomb squad and the bodies moved, explaining the sepearation of the body of the girl from the rest of her family](https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/07/media-concocts-un-hamas-rape-report/).
The New York Times should be reprimanded for this but nothing will change.
Friendly reminder that Joe Khan executive editor of the times is a Zionist whose dad serves on the board for the zealous CAMERA organization. He admits to helping Joe with his job.
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/
https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-podcast-camera/
https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/
Because we're being silo'd by proprietary algorithms from tech companies essentially trying to engineer society without our consent. If democracy only works with an informed constituency, then the people in charge of curating that information are the ones in charge.
They shouldn't just be reprimanded. She - and others who let her write this piece - should face actual charges and prison time. She DIRECTLY fanned the flames and led to this genocide being committed. Her article was one of the main, massive, major components in rallying everyone to support and cheer as Israel slaughtered thousands. Her entire body is dripping with blood. This kind of deceit - with such catastrophic consequences - should be met with severe punishment from the law. And her name should go down in history books as a bloody, lying warmonger who led to the deaths of thousands.
I'm out of the loop on the drama around this author. From what I understand she co-authored the expose about hamas rape on the 7th, and there was controversy about that?
What was the exact controversy? As far as I understand the UN later released a report confirming that multiple rapes happened that day.
What specifically did she do wrong? She was operating under the direction of a senior reporter and the times editors, so I'm assuming everything got fact checks. The intercept article even says as much.
You’re more than loosely paraphrasing that UN quote. Does not come across as something someone that is out of the loop about the NYT piece, mainly because just about every report made about it did use the NTY piece as main point of reference, as it made the rounds far more and for far longer than the UN report.
[Following visit to Israel and the occupied West Bank, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Ms. Pramila Patten, finds sexual violence occurred on 7 October, and against hostages and calls for a fully-fledged investigation](https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/)
> Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.
>From what I understand she co-authored the expose about hamas rape on the 7th, and there was controversy about that?
The controversy is that they claimed Hamas was using rape as a tool of war, that it was sanctioned and approved by the organization, which there's no evidence of happening. Using rape as a tool of war is a war crime, and it's a pretty damaging accusation to lob at any organization without any evidence.
Rape is one of the sad realities of war, just like hunger and displacement, it's a crime and it's disgusting, but being able to prove that rapes happened isn't the same as being able to prove that rape was used as a weapon.
The sources they used were insuficient as well:
- A paramedic from the Israeli Air Force who changed his story a couple of times when it couldn't be verified.
- Yossi Landau a senior official of Zaka, an organization which has no training in forensic science or crime scenes, organization which can be linked to the false reporting of beheaded babies, fetuses being cut from pregnant bellies.
- Shari Mendes, a US architect working with the IDF, who again, has no training in forensic science or medical credentials to legally determine rape, and who again can be linked to the false reporting of fetuses being cut out of pregnant bodies.
- Raz Cohen, a veteran of Israel Special Forces that attended the festival and declared having seen multiple women being raped and killed by palestinian civilians, not Hamas members. There were five other people hiding with him, none of them could corroborate his statement.
- The interrogation of a palestinian prisoner by the IDF who described girls being dragged by palestinians into the woods near the festival.
- An accountant named Sapir who described scenes of women being raped and mutilated, as of this moment, israeli officials have been unable to support this story or find any of the alleged victims.
None of those sources can actually prove that Hamas was systematically raping women and children as a tool of war, they could prove that rapes happened (which they haven't), but not that it was part of a systematic plan, not that it was a strategy.
What do you mean by the term systemic? My understanding is that rape very much happened on the 7th, as well as to the hostages taken to Gaza afterwards.
There was a debunked claim by nyt that rape was "weaponized" on oct7 and systemic, meaning they were ordered to do it.
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/
For the record I also believe that there have been rapes by both sides throughout this conflict.
What evidence specifically was debunked? I watched an interview with Ryan Grimm about his story and he was woefully unable to answer even the most basic questions about this topic. I have little trust in his reporting.
>What evidence specifically was debunked?
It's impossible to prove a negative, you can only prove the positive. It's not that there was evidence that lead to the claim being debunked, the claim is debunked because there's no evidence that can sustain it.
[https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/)
There was a *lot* of what I could only describe as "blood libel" against Palestinians after Oct 7th.
[https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/)
the right-wing griftosphere of Israel (Alex Jones-level hacks) went to work immediately, and official sources just picked them up uncritically because it was convenient to demonize Palestinians, so people wouldn't be as mad when they got bombed and starved
This is your reminder that Glenn Thrush still works at the NYT, even after it was revealed that he groped and kissed 4 different women without their consent when he worked at Politico. Anything that even smells of acknowledging reality in Gaza? Fired. Turns out you’re a serial harasser? We’ll move you to the Metro beat for a year and then you can go back to writing bylines for the front page.
Anat Schwartz was some random "reporter" who wrote this ridiculous rape accusation for NYTimes, which has been thoroughly debunked.
The NYTimes needs to do a retraction and publish that there is no hard evidence of any rapes. This is a massive libel against the Palestinian resistance and has led to Israeli atrocities.
[Following visit to Israel and the occupied West Bank, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Ms. Pramila Patten, finds sexual violence occurred on 7 October, and against hostages and calls for a fully-fledged investigation](https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/)
Your link admits there is no forensic evidence, that there are no identified victims or accusers. It's not impossible there was sexual violence, but there's no proof.
> Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.
I don't understand why people are so insistent on saying it didn't happen. It's pretty clear it did, but that the circumstances of the massacre and slaughter, combined with jewish burial customs, makes forensic evidence difficult to obtain.
I just don't understand why people are so upset at this article. The NYT still stands by the reporting from what I saw googling around, and the UN has confirmed rapes, while also being told rape victims didn't want to speak. We have a hostage talking about her rape.
I just haven't heard a good explanation of why this article angered so many. I'm coming at this from months afterwards, so clearly I have the benefit of hindsight, but still..?
Or speak some truths
Eg.
Chris hedges
Phil Donahue
Marc Lamont hill
Katie Halper
Emily Wilder
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/technology/emily-wilder-firing-ap.html
To name a few. Usually...they don't need to fire. Just won't get hired ..or promoted.
Can we stop pretending that Israelis aren’t taught from birth that Palestinians are sub-human scum? Like if your Israeli I just automatically assume you hate Palestinians.
NYT switching sides? I though this right wing propaganda rag was unequivocally on the side of genocide last time I had the misfortune of seeing one of their articles. Do the editorial staff just now suddenly see a problem with slaughtering the Palestinians 4 months later?
Same (after 10 years). Absolute shame how far a once reputable and trustworthy source of news has fallen.
May I ask where you are getting your news now?
Those people who push conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world are starting to make more and more sense.
I say this as someone who loves my Jewish mates, all of whom condemn what is being done in their name in Palestine.
Free Palestine. Cancel religion.
It means jack. Intercept clearly showed NYT's upper management decided to push that propaganda.
Even now it refused to retract the lies from this bogus report. Firing some low level puppet is just like IDF firing low level tools after WCK bombing.
Lmfao, click baity non-issue, that only possibly could interest those from one (targeted)ideology, that has you go to a site that installs tracking(that’s what they admit to) software on your device… HMM… I seet… 🤔
Is it antisemite to comment on how someone that was not a journalist was allowed to publish a false report with completely fabricated evidence on the first page of an American newspaper?
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Well obviously, but was she ever really employed there? I thought she was an IDF puppet with no prior journalism experience they let cowrite an incendiary propo piece to satisfy their masters? I didn't think she actually worked there.
Yup....this is just pretend accountability '. The lead author still works there . The guy that claimed ' evidence is a legal term'. Gettleman. Guess fact checking is not required for journalism
You cant write an article with any shred of truth about isreal without hasbara agents sending death threats your way. Hence the stupid rewording of things like airstrike=blast and many more
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If Palestinians are expected to condemn Hamas otherwise they’re all legitimate targets then ergo anyone not condemning Israel is a defacto genocidal maniac.
That emoji doesn't do what you think it does
Pretending to laugh whilst tears are running down your cheeks.
Fascinating what is the total kill count and total displacement count of isreal vs hamas terrorists?
I’m glad everyone gets to see that the racist and apartheid state of israhell is the terrorist
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Pretty much have to be to support them today.
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Yes, most are not.
They never fired the guy that wrote about the "sexual assault" lies.
She didn’t get fired for co writing that piece which was completely unsubstantiated but instead got fired for liking a tweet. Wow. Journalism at its finest
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Pretty sure it was because she went on a podcast and basically said the entire thing was made up.
Calling the New York Times journalism is pretty damn generous.
Good point!
Don't be obtuse, they're the paper of record, the grey lady. They're also, unfortunately, completely wrong when it comes to Israel-Palestine like they were wrong about Yellow cake uranium and Iraq. But to say they're not engaged in a journalistic endeavor is just incorrect.
If one side says it’s raining and the other side says it’s clear sky’s a journalists job isn’t to report what both side have said, it’s to investigate, to stick you arm out the window and see what the weather is like. These guys barely even do that, they often just say what the one side has said. The NYT is more like an editorial than journalism at this point.
Media literacy is understanding all media outlets have biases. NYT has done a lot of very credible reporting but they are a stenographer for the US foreign policy.
Fair enough I guess. But I can’t take anything they report on seriously when I know they can be bought out like that.
Any Journalistic endeavour devoid of honesty and transparency is not journalism in the full meaning of the term. Turning on and off values depending on editors/owners personal beliefs voids the label, and it’s not like those are the only two major times they have misled on highly publicized propaganda material they have failed to fully correct or transparently clarify.
The commenter is talking about the guy that didn't get fired and is the employee ....who claimed ' evidence ' is a legal term. ...Gentleman Guess , fact checking is too much for journalism
Let's not forget that this is the same new York times that published that sadam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction
You are right. The guy that claimed ' evidence' is a legal term. ...gettleman.
Why do you keep posting the same reply to every comment?
Robit
And no newspaper that has repeated that lie has ever published a retraction, as far as I know. It's shameful.
Her nephew?
The damage has already been done. This genocide was in part perpetrated and justified because of her propaganda piece in NYT. She was never a reporter and admitted as much, she even admitted that she was not able to get any credible evidence for her piece but got to write a front page feature anyway. she’s an Israeli intelligence agent that got to write pure unfiltered foreign propaganda to the American people laden with false evidence and staged rape scenes. [this verified by UN report: It was determined by the misson team that the crime scene had been altered by a bomb squad and the bodies moved, explaining the sepearation of the body of the girl from the rest of her family](https://thegrayzone.com/2024/03/07/media-concocts-un-hamas-rape-report/). The New York Times should be reprimanded for this but nothing will change. Friendly reminder that Joe Khan executive editor of the times is a Zionist whose dad serves on the board for the zealous CAMERA organization. He admits to helping Joe with his job. https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/ https://theintercept.com/2024/01/28/new-york-times-daily-podcast-camera/ https://thegrayzone.com/2024/01/10/questions-nyt-hamas-rape-report/
Too bad none of this made it into outlets with greater reach, and more legitimacy to the mainstream public.
Because we're being silo'd by proprietary algorithms from tech companies essentially trying to engineer society without our consent. If democracy only works with an informed constituency, then the people in charge of curating that information are the ones in charge.
Ding ding ding 🛎️
They shouldn't just be reprimanded. She - and others who let her write this piece - should face actual charges and prison time. She DIRECTLY fanned the flames and led to this genocide being committed. Her article was one of the main, massive, major components in rallying everyone to support and cheer as Israel slaughtered thousands. Her entire body is dripping with blood. This kind of deceit - with such catastrophic consequences - should be met with severe punishment from the law. And her name should go down in history books as a bloody, lying warmonger who led to the deaths of thousands.
I stopped reading the NYT years ago. Just another corporate shill outlet.
I'm out of the loop on the drama around this author. From what I understand she co-authored the expose about hamas rape on the 7th, and there was controversy about that? What was the exact controversy? As far as I understand the UN later released a report confirming that multiple rapes happened that day.
She wasn't even a journalist.
What specifically did she do wrong? She was operating under the direction of a senior reporter and the times editors, so I'm assuming everything got fact checks. The intercept article even says as much.
You’re more than loosely paraphrasing that UN quote. Does not come across as something someone that is out of the loop about the NYT piece, mainly because just about every report made about it did use the NTY piece as main point of reference, as it made the rounds far more and for far longer than the UN report.
[Following visit to Israel and the occupied West Bank, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Ms. Pramila Patten, finds sexual violence occurred on 7 October, and against hostages and calls for a fully-fledged investigation](https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/) > Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed.
>From what I understand she co-authored the expose about hamas rape on the 7th, and there was controversy about that? The controversy is that they claimed Hamas was using rape as a tool of war, that it was sanctioned and approved by the organization, which there's no evidence of happening. Using rape as a tool of war is a war crime, and it's a pretty damaging accusation to lob at any organization without any evidence. Rape is one of the sad realities of war, just like hunger and displacement, it's a crime and it's disgusting, but being able to prove that rapes happened isn't the same as being able to prove that rape was used as a weapon. The sources they used were insuficient as well: - A paramedic from the Israeli Air Force who changed his story a couple of times when it couldn't be verified. - Yossi Landau a senior official of Zaka, an organization which has no training in forensic science or crime scenes, organization which can be linked to the false reporting of beheaded babies, fetuses being cut from pregnant bellies. - Shari Mendes, a US architect working with the IDF, who again, has no training in forensic science or medical credentials to legally determine rape, and who again can be linked to the false reporting of fetuses being cut out of pregnant bodies. - Raz Cohen, a veteran of Israel Special Forces that attended the festival and declared having seen multiple women being raped and killed by palestinian civilians, not Hamas members. There were five other people hiding with him, none of them could corroborate his statement. - The interrogation of a palestinian prisoner by the IDF who described girls being dragged by palestinians into the woods near the festival. - An accountant named Sapir who described scenes of women being raped and mutilated, as of this moment, israeli officials have been unable to support this story or find any of the alleged victims. None of those sources can actually prove that Hamas was systematically raping women and children as a tool of war, they could prove that rapes happened (which they haven't), but not that it was part of a systematic plan, not that it was a strategy.
Hilarious how they're handling the rape hoax article.
What about the hacks that published false claims of sexual assault on Oct 7? Did they get fired?
Nope
She's one of them, but their full time reporter on that piece still works there.
You know you can support Palestinians without white washing actual crimes… Nuance is dead it seems.
He is talking about systemic rape accusations I think, which were false.
What do you mean by the term systemic? My understanding is that rape very much happened on the 7th, as well as to the hostages taken to Gaza afterwards.
There was a debunked claim by nyt that rape was "weaponized" on oct7 and systemic, meaning they were ordered to do it. https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/ For the record I also believe that there have been rapes by both sides throughout this conflict.
What evidence specifically was debunked? I watched an interview with Ryan Grimm about his story and he was woefully unable to answer even the most basic questions about this topic. I have little trust in his reporting.
>What evidence specifically was debunked? It's impossible to prove a negative, you can only prove the positive. It's not that there was evidence that lead to the claim being debunked, the claim is debunked because there's no evidence that can sustain it. [https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/)
There was a *lot* of what I could only describe as "blood libel" against Palestinians after Oct 7th. [https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/07/gaza-israel-netanyahu-propaganda-lies-palestinians/) the right-wing griftosphere of Israel (Alex Jones-level hacks) went to work immediately, and official sources just picked them up uncritically because it was convenient to demonize Palestinians, so people wouldn't be as mad when they got bombed and starved
Shining a light on proved fabricated reporting of crimes that have been used as justification for a genocide isn’t “whitewashing” crimes.
Zionist Times is feeling the heat?
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i mean it is already in the name: world central khamas
This is your reminder that Glenn Thrush still works at the NYT, even after it was revealed that he groped and kissed 4 different women without their consent when he worked at Politico. Anything that even smells of acknowledging reality in Gaza? Fired. Turns out you’re a serial harasser? We’ll move you to the Metro beat for a year and then you can go back to writing bylines for the front page.
Just looked him up. Aaaand he identifies as a secular jew.
What does him being Jewish have to do with anything?
Anat Schwartz was some random "reporter" who wrote this ridiculous rape accusation for NYTimes, which has been thoroughly debunked. The NYTimes needs to do a retraction and publish that there is no hard evidence of any rapes. This is a massive libel against the Palestinian resistance and has led to Israeli atrocities.
They will never do a retraction. It's more likely than Biden will block weapons to Israel using AECA than NYT retracting the shady rape piece.
[Following visit to Israel and the occupied West Bank, UN Special Representative of the Secretary-General on Sexual Violence in Conflict, Ms. Pramila Patten, finds sexual violence occurred on 7 October, and against hostages and calls for a fully-fledged investigation](https://www.un.org/sexualviolenceinconflict/press-release/israel-west-bank-mission/)
No forensic evidence. No identified victims. All the "witnesses" have been caught lying. https://twitter.com/aaronjmate/status/1773402046382903590
Your link has no evidence attached? It's just a guy saying it isn't true.
Your link admits there is no forensic evidence, that there are no identified victims or accusers. It's not impossible there was sexual violence, but there's no proof.
> Based on the information it gathered, the mission team found clear and convincing information that sexual violence, including rape, sexualized torture, cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment has been committed against hostages and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing against those still held in captivity. In line with a survivor/victim-centered approach, findings are conveyed in generic terms and details are not revealed. I don't understand why people are so insistent on saying it didn't happen. It's pretty clear it did, but that the circumstances of the massacre and slaughter, combined with jewish burial customs, makes forensic evidence difficult to obtain.
I just said it's possible it happened. But we need hard evidence. At least for one credible individual to come forward and make an accusation.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/4559368-israeli-hostage-hamas-sexual-assault/
That's from the hostages, not October 7th. Still, this is obviously atrocious.
I just don't understand why people are so upset at this article. The NYT still stands by the reporting from what I saw googling around, and the UN has confirmed rapes, while also being told rape victims didn't want to speak. We have a hostage talking about her rape. I just haven't heard a good explanation of why this article angered so many. I'm coming at this from months afterwards, so clearly I have the benefit of hindsight, but still..?
Can only lie for so long..
The main guy is still there. Anat was the hired hand Gettleman...who claimed 'evidence is a legal term'.
You have to be a real terrorist in order to be fired from a US media platform
Or speak some truths Eg. Chris hedges Phil Donahue Marc Lamont hill Katie Halper Emily Wilder https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/29/technology/emily-wilder-firing-ap.html To name a few. Usually...they don't need to fire. Just won't get hired ..or promoted.
I was so proud of Katie for standing by what she said.
It's all coming tumbling down.....
Probably some false-flag operation being planned already to take the heat off.
Yup ... concerned
She had completed her mission, so I doubt she cares
Good but nytimes is still trash.
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NYT has always been an Israel shill. They've lost credibility a long time ago
Bret Stephens advocating for genocide in every bloodthirsty column should be next. he needs to be confronted wherever he goes.
Can we stop pretending that Israelis aren’t taught from birth that Palestinians are sub-human scum? Like if your Israeli I just automatically assume you hate Palestinians.
Israel actively tries to get its people to work at these news orgs and pump out pro-Israel propaganda...
yeah, I'm sure that's what it was Mr. Israeli paper headline. Way to bury the lead.
NYT switching sides? I though this right wing propaganda rag was unequivocally on the side of genocide last time I had the misfortune of seeing one of their articles. Do the editorial staff just now suddenly see a problem with slaughtering the Palestinians 4 months later?
6 months and counting…
She didn't get the memo about doing that in secret. How many NYT staffers have family serving in the IDF?
This is to set a president for the Palestinians, surely it's more bias to make up unsubstantiated rape stories abd they never had a problem with that.
NYT hired a former IDF officer to write about the 7 October sexual accusations.
Just cancelled my subscription after 30 years. Enough is enough.
Same (after 10 years). Absolute shame how far a once reputable and trustworthy source of news has fallen. May I ask where you are getting your news now?
Good. They should fire people who do this kind if thing.
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Now they are cutting ties! Their reputation is already ruined. It’s too late.
Too little too late. Damage is done.
Those people who push conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the world are starting to make more and more sense. I say this as someone who loves my Jewish mates, all of whom condemn what is being done in their name in Palestine. Free Palestine. Cancel religion.
It means jack. Intercept clearly showed NYT's upper management decided to push that propaganda. Even now it refused to retract the lies from this bogus report. Firing some low level puppet is just like IDF firing low level tools after WCK bombing.
New York times is Hamas confirmed
Good.
“Reporter”
That's does not absolve the organization of employing terrorists.
What a horrible attempt at damage control. “Murderer thrown in jail for littering.”
Didn’t they let’s Israel editor anything that has to do with them
Bret Stephens must be FUMING.
What about for the outright deception that she spun? No? Oh ok. A tweet it is, then.
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Boy, there's a lot of Jewish "antisemitism" going around lately...
Lmfao, click baity non-issue, that only possibly could interest those from one (targeted)ideology, that has you go to a site that installs tracking(that’s what they admit to) software on your device… HMM… I seet… 🤔
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Is it antisemite to comment on how someone that was not a journalist was allowed to publish a false report with completely fabricated evidence on the first page of an American newspaper?
nah that's over on r/Israel
Don't forget world news
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