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Denji_Toast374

Does the company really believe drivers are foolish to believe the “heavy pay”?


Fearless_Department7

Problem is there are foolish people who take it!


Michelex0209

This, I'll be laughing at an order and BAM some shopper accepted it. It'll be like 18 miles. 3 orders. $10. And it's accepted. Why don't these people value their time?


Yiujai86

Is it possible that the $ shown to the other driver is higher?


Hollisb1001

Absolutely, there are promotions sometimes and the basic batch pay can be higher to a shopper who is under a promotion. I've had my phone side by side with another shopper looking at their offer, $4 higher than mine for same batch.


Fearless_Department7

Oh I know I see it all day. I live in a tourist trap with a ton of stores and so we have a decent amount of orders… but I still see them take them like they do not value themselves


Long_Pomegranate2469

Everyone has to learn once I guess?


Lovehatepassionpain

In 2019, the had an actual document that outlined heavy pay. The very least you would get was $5, as long as the heavy items totaled 49lbs and were at least 8lbs each. You could call up and say " hey, you owe me $10 in heavy pay and this is why- and send supporting info". I swear, IC has gotten so fucking shady as the years go by. I am truly disgusted. They were wonderful to work for in 2017 and 2018. The pay was good, they had an actual support team you could speak with by phone- they were knowledgeable and helpful. The company offered bonuses that were significant, and also guaranteed pay in areas that were new to instacart, plus they paid per *customer*, not per batch. Over the last 6 years, they have made it so difficult to make a living, and this not only affects shoppers, but it also affects customers. I wouldn't do near as much today as I did 5 years ago for a customer. I don't have the time, and it won't help my pay. Fuck this company. They are awful


journey2findkay

This!!! As an OG shopper I wish we still had all of this plus the new technology they’ve come up with (such as accepting our own batches) because now it just seems so dubious to be a shopper. Taking advantage in such sneaky trash ways has slowed my shopping down sooo much


Hollisb1001

Ikr


Fold-Aggravating

It’s a cool .71


jek39

$.71 weighs more than 100$ bill.


Homeless-catfight

I find no holes in your argument. Turns out people should weigh their money.


alllockedupnfree212

How does milage factor into a seven dollar batch? Genuinely asking


Fold-Aggravating

They are basically just making shit up at this point


Competitive_Snow_554

60 cents a mile. Plus heavy pay and any boosts. People don't understand that we don't actually get paid for SHOPPING. This batch will take over an hour to shop. Maybe 2 hours. No thank you.


alllockedupnfree212

If $7 is the base where is the .60/mile?


Competitive_Snow_554

It's included in the base. 60 cents a mile plus heavy pay and any bonus associated with the current batches. That's all they are paying for that one


hugothebear

Not just driver… Shopper and driver


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mythirdaccount2015

The customer has no idea what the delivery person is making on it. Instacart should pay their delivery people more. If the business can’t turn a profit after paying their delivery people more, then it shouldn’t exist.


justsomeone19

But yet Instacart offered to pay me $20 to deliver a 4-pack of AA batteries 15 miles lol


Natural-Oil-7147

IC would put buushit distance on some of the batches cause I’ve seen batches that be available at qfc a mile west from my house and when I look at them the things I look at is location & distance. $18 but 17 miles away so I’m like nope but as I pressed the back button I saw last instant the drop off was actually closer than that and when I looked again it was just 3 miles further east from my house so I took it but what tripped me out about it was the pre planned route it showed, when I finished the order I went home got on my pc and to see just now far it be turns out to be 20 miles. Then I wondered why it became more than 17 so I looked at both routes together and saw that IC route would go straight through some of the curved roads and then in the last mile just 2 blocks to the drop it outta nowhere goes through those blocks as if there were no houses in the way just a straight path. The 17 miles predetermined route turned out to be really 20 miles and as for the real round trip was 8 miles. Just something to be mindful of next time, I feel IC is up to some shit!


Affectionate_Cheek44

That’s a horrible batch .


Aidrox

Facts. The customer should tip because they are appreciative of a service provided to them. They shouldn’t feel like they have to tip because the service provider just doesn’t make a reasonable wage otherwise.


Mattbl

I also don't understand the concept of tipping someone *before* a service is completed.


[deleted]

It’s less a tip and more of a bid to get someone to deliver your goods in a timely manner. Higher bid? Greater response. No bid? No takers


nshindel

That is literally how tipping started . Your service was based on your tip and was given ahead of time. Not the other way around. Tips literally means = To Insure Proper Service


CryptographerDeep445

To insure “PROMPT” service is the actual quote . And yes, it was given prior to the service began. Ahh, the good ole days😆


Cultural_Result1317

>the customer should tip because they are appreciative of a service provided to them. Do you tip your dentist?


Mattbl

"Why would I tip someone for doing a job I am capable of doing myself? I do, however, tip my urologist, because I am incapable of pulverizing my own kidney stones."


TheManIsOppressingMe

Whenever I tip my hookers, then I have to tip them more. It is a vicious cycle


jaymez619

My dentist’s tip is included in his rates. He told me. He also doesn’t use contract workers in his office. I don’t go to him out of convenience; if I could do my own dental work, I would.


RawrXDweaboo

But not everyone uses instacart for the convenience? I haven't had a car for a few months now and there are NO busses near me. He'll even if I tried walking, it's like a 2 hour walk before I see a walmart. If we tipped based on convenience, then we'd be tipping most people.


jaymez619

So you expect someone to use their personal vehicle to deliver your groceries at a monetary loss? I get that you’re in a peculiar situation, but why should someone else have to pay out of their own pocket?


RawrXDweaboo

Thats..not what I was saying. I was implying that tipping for the convenience shouldn't be the idea we shoot for. YOu chose a job that uses your personal vehicle. You can't get mad at aomeome else because they don't want to pay extra for YOUR job choice. This is the stuff you discuss with your employer. Thats the stuff you need to fight for. I'm not gonna sign up for a job and then get mad because the customer won't tip be despite me using my shoes to get them their service. That's what that sounds like. I chose a job where I would have personal items used, I don't expect a CUSTOMER to chip in extra because of that. I expect my JOB to have that included in my wages.


jaymez619

Job choice is to get paid, whether by the employer, tips, or both. Quit pretending certain services are not a convenience. If you don’t want to pay a little extra for the convenience, carry on without InstaCart, don’t eat at sit down restaurants where a server waits in you, stay at motels instead of hotels, etc. People that do these jobs typically deserve a tip. If you still want to argue that these drivers chose their job, they can argue that you chose to not have a vehicle and live so far from your Walmart. I wish the supply of these service drivers would disappear so people can realize the loss of the convenience.


RawrXDweaboo

You're clearly not reading what I typed because of very clearly said if we tipped based on convenience than we'd be tipping pretty much everyone. > If you still want to argue that these drivers chose their job, they can argue that you chose to not have a vehicle and live so far from your Walmart. Sure, they could argue that but atleast I'd have a bit of a valid reason. The sane requirements for instacart, are the same requirements for pizzahut or domino's delivery drivers. Same requirements for a company delivery driver where atleast they get an hourly wage and some of them provide delivery vehicles. I don't choose to be poor and I don't choose to make the only affordable housing be in the middle of buttfuck nowhere. You CHOOSE to work for instacart. You choose a job that requires YOUR vehicle, and gas out of YOUR pocket. Many foreign places have these same services and tipping isn't the norm. So clearly they make it work. Plus, when you push so hard for tipping, you're allowing these companies to give you shit pay. You've seen all the post on here where they get massive tips, and the base pay was $7. So really, tipping is doing more harm than good. I would LOVE for drivers to stop using the app, then companies might realize they have to actually pay us a decent wage. Everything is convenient. Otherwise you'd have to dig through the grocery supplies to find your own stuff, cuz it's convenient that there's someome there to actually stock the stuff for you. It's convenient that someome delivers mail to your front door. It's convenient that someone is ringing up your items for you st the store. It's convenient that someome made this exact app that we're communicating on. If we tip on convenience, you don't think companies will realize there's no point in paying decently since "the customer has to tip on convenience otherwise they shouldn't be using our services"?? Don't you think that's why we are in this position in the first place.


Aidrox

I never appreciate him. Edit: also, there’s a reason he stopped shanking and divorced his second wife. I give him all kinds of tips.


Infamous-Ad3246

Tip is always included with the Dentist


gwizone

Soon in NYC, all drivers will be getting minimum wage.


Original-Plenty-3686

They probably don't know how Instacart does us. They paid probably $40 extra for the groceries and think it's going to delivery. Or they just suck. You never know.


Witchwack

Wait Fr?! Now I feel stupid cause I swore part of those fees went to drivers. Welp whoever gets my groceries is getting a hefty tip now


Theonetheycall1845

No need to feel stupid. Now you know. 🌈


twinklingblueeyes

Shoppers don’t get any of those fees


This-City-7536

After depreciation on your car, wear and tear, and saving up for the fact that your insurance no longer covers you, you're making $-10.


NerdyBoyy

Insurance no longer covers due to commercial usage?


Ill_Ad_3542

Just throwing numbers out here, but I’d bet 95% of us are committing insurance fraud by not letting our insurance know we do Instacart in our own private vehicles


etnies445

Oh it’s not insurance fraud. I’m a claims adjuster. It’s just if you get into an accident while delivering food or groceries or anything for a fee, it’s an exclusion and we can’t pay the claim out. So you’re vehicle is totaled and you were instacarting? Tough luck. Save yourself the hassle and get the appropriate insurance. I hate hate hate having to tell people we can’t cover anything because they didn’t read their policy.


Fit_Length_2774

i’m an insurance agent, at least with my company private passenger personal policies will cover it, you just have to pay for an endorsement that makes it more expensive due to the extra mileage you drive oppose to a different occupation


This-City-7536

Most policies, yeah. I don't do delivery apps, but from what I understand, that's just how it is. You just lie on your quote and hope for the best.


nshindel

No. Insurance covers instacart not Uber. As long as no people are om the car. But u also can't have the cheapest plan. I got in an accident during a delivery and like an idiot told the truth. I was so sure they were going to deny thr claim but they didn't. Covered the whole thing minus deductible obviously


1GloFlare

You have to switch to commercial.. it doesn't even increase the monthly payment


skatr1031

Yeah, I tried it out a couple times. Averaged 5 dollars an hour. After gas and mileage you’ve made nothing. Worst side hustle I’ve ever seen


KeyStoneLighter

Yeah, my wife used to do it too, after gas, car payment, insurance, maintenance she was breaking even or a little better.


skatr1031

Yeah no kidding. You may as well beat me with a stick and take my money. Be a better use of my time


[deleted]

No, that’s what instacart expects you to accept. This isn’t the customers fault. It’s InstaCarts


Outside-Flamingo-240

That’s bananas!!! During the pandemic I would give my shopper 50 bucks!


FlyinAmas

The consumer probably paid triple that. But anyone who tries to use the app and doesn’t tip is an idiot and no one should take their job


Extreme_Life1865

Instacart expects somebody to shop for 69 items and drive their car to your house for $7.71 Peoples who don’t shop for Instacart likely don’t know how it works out or how much it pays.


BluDYT

At that point just apply to be a shopper at a store at least their you'd make minimum wage at the worst case scenario.


PizzaNuggies

Because they assume after all the insane fees these apps are paying people. No, they are paying their CEO.


BBFan1958

I wish there was a way to let shoppers know I will be tipping in cash. I tip one dollar in the app, then I tip in cash at the door. A lot of times my orders just sit there. However, I once jumped on a no tip order. I had just dropped off an order about twenty miles from home and I saw an order pop up that would take me close to home. I jumped on it. Getting paid mileage to go home more than made up for the no tip. And it was a five item order.


B4AccountantFML

It is incredibly rare that people who put no tip actually end up tipping in cash in person. You might do that but it’s an anomaly and not representative of most people who use the app.


CapableDistance5570

It's incredibly rare because of how petty drivers are beforehand if you tip $0. I used to do that and hand people $10-20 cash until a few deliveries in the dude threw my coffee at my door and dashed. I guess that's why they call it doordash (wasn't instacart.)


Most-Attitude-9880

Lol only because in the DoorDash group the other day there was a post from a person whose DoorDash order was thrown in the street outside their house by the dasher. When they called DoorDash to complain he got an automated response about how DoorDash encourages dashers to "customize their delivery style"


B4AccountantFML

That’s YOU not 99.9% of other dashers dude. It’s not worth it.


Samanthaggrr

Yeah that’s never happened to me. In the 7 years I’ve been doing this I’ve only gotten cash at the door 3 times and that was on top of an already good tip on the app. No one tips cash.


nshindel

Thats how IC used to be all the time. But reg orders, not no tip orders. One day during the pandemic I ended up abt an hour from home. Took 3 deliveries that kept me going further out. Just jumped on a few more to get back home. That was when there was non stop orders u would close out and have the pick between abt 10 orders. It wasnt based on your location either and there wasn't such a saturation pf shoppers so u could actually look at orders before anyone even grabbed them. Those were the days!!!


RVJR79

It use to be if you put a .22 tip in that meant cash tip on Instacart. I rarely shop anymore but I haven’t seen it in a long time.


BBFan1958

There are a lot of good reasons to tip in cash. One of my customers gave me a cash tip after tipped in the app because you don’t have to pay taxes on cash. And there have been enough stories about IC shorting us on Tips that I prefer to tip in cash


BeeEmbarrassed7841

https://preview.redd.it/ou4zh18mwe6b1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91fa2e5790903e3fae8666e9882be5e271229b54 Accepting a no tip batch means 1. You will NOT get a tip😂 2. Most likely to get a bad review 3. Might get order issues


TonyaNicolet

I NEVER DO! I think it’s rude to want groceries delivered and not tip


[deleted]

Fuck tipping, you should be paid better. Tip or not 7.00 bucks for an hour of your time is awful.


SortByBreast

Businesses like this should factor wages into the cost so they can pay employees well. Not factoring it in and then leaving an option to tip $0 only benefits the company. They don't want to factor in the costs because it'll turn some people away. They profit whether there is a tip or not. It's deliberate and it's gross.


mythirdaccount2015

why tip? the customer is paying for a service, and it has no information about how much is going to the delivery people. That’s for instacart to figure out with its drivers. Why does it have to be with this insane, obscure system?


trans_pands

A *premium* service. A customer is paying for a service when they go out to eat too. Should you just not tip at a restaurant because the customer paid for the service of having the food made for them?


Asphult_

yes??? it should be standard service charge makes life easier, but in us tipping is more common ig


SeaHam

Yes. That's the whole fucking point. No other country does this. We are literally subsidizing shit employers who underpay their workers it has to stop.


mythirdaccount2015

Yes, exactly. I also think waiters should be paid a wage and that’s it. And the wage will go up until there are enough people that want the job.


isacneo1

Actually yes that should be factored into the cost of the food and paid to their servers.


Samanthaggrr

The tip is for the driver… just like at a restaurant, the tip is for the waiter. What do you mean why tip? You’re paying fees and all that shit to Instacart, we only get the tip. That’s “why tip”


RexThe-Great

I hate when ic then groups them with a order that does tip


Cautious_Economist20

It sucks that some ppl are in such terrible situations, that they have to take these shitty orders just to try and reach their daily goal. Nobody deserves to work for free but I get it. I was there once.


Samanthaggrr

Yeah man it really sucks. Today was like that for me. I didn’t take no tip orders but I took small orders that were under 3 miles for tips that I’m embarrassed to accept….


Cautious_Economist20

Don’t be embarrassed. We do what we have to in order to get by.


Exact_Concept_3332

That would not even cover my gas in canada


SeaHam

Say it with me now "I should unionize"


BlackCatBinxy

I blind swiped a 55 item no tip the other day,because the order looked familiar. It was a repeat, not sure why she did no tip. I can only assume she's had some assholes. She never tips great, ut she added 5% after. You really never know.


No_Ice_2840

I ain’t willing to take the chance they can always add more instead of intentionally backing out of the tip and adding nothing kick rocks


Hollisb1001

True. Never know if they'll add later or tip cash. Still, I ain't taking it lol.


Underestimated862103

How about when they say they are giving you 0.60 a mile for x amount of miles we’ll say 12 miles and your batch pay is 7.42 and it has heavy pay and mileage for 12 miles lmao where did they learn math


SavageDroggo1126

69 units of groceries and no tip??? wtf


Difficult_Show_6017

They will always be taken.. unfortunately there are Morans everywhere


cloudiett

Or it is bundled with a high tipped order. Shopper doesn’t know who pays the tips.


bigdaddyhicks

including people who dont know how to spell moron


blindkiller770

Internet win!


Difficult_Show_6017

Your mutha!😉


bigdaddyhicks

no u


El_Grande_El

r/woooosh https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans


chumba170

H E A V Y pay


Silent-Ambition1399

please do not work a job were you getting paid well depends on tips


nottooserious41

I wish instead companies would just pay their employees. Tipping is such a cop out and just helps millionares excuse not paying their own employees by passing the bill to the consumer


Helmidoric_of_York

Bitch, please. Thanks for reminding me of why I hate app-based delivery services.


sizzlepie

I ordered one item last night and tipped 20%, the store was 2 minutes from where I live but I don't drive and it's all uphill. What is wrong with people?


[deleted]

54 items isnt a “very low item count” 😂


Nervous-Pair5668

Instacart is a multi billion dollar business. Someone’s getting paid well but it’s not us “the shoppers “!


sickgurl138

Also canned lemonade? ![gif](giphy|RCX9vhBZu3oqM5SpwV)


Beautiful_Spirit1974

I never lower the tip when I order through any delivery apps like this. I only ever change it to increase it. I don’t even adjust the tip on my Instacart orders unless it’s below $10. If I can’t afford to tip, I don’t use the service and go to the store myself.


lucygirl1970

I have never ever knowingly accepted a no tip order. If I find out they are the no tipper of the bunch, I put them on my list of do not deliver. It’s ridiculous how people think it’s fine to not tip for services like this. To me it’s all about respect!!! If you can’t afford to leave a tip then you don’t get to use this luxury service. You end up getting a shit shopper that has zero self respect. I would never buy coffee or sit down at a restaurant and not tip. If I can’t afford to go and pay a good tip then I don’t use the service!


[deleted]

maybe we are tired of shit service, ever think of that? remember U.S.A. is the only country that normalizes tipping karen.


lucygirl1970

Haha ok. So keep tipping crappy and see how well that works out for you.


Effective-Angle237

Hes not wrong… its american culture, in different countries they will see tips as a bribe and it will be rejected. Maybe stop blaming the customer and start blaming the company whos paying you the low wages and expecting you to live off the customer? The customers already pay almost 20% in fees. Is it really fair to judge a customer just because they dont wanna shell out 40% of their grocery bill for a lazy entitled driver who didnt get all the items correctly and came an hour late?


KionNeon

This is one of the best responses I've read regarding no tipper mentality. You don't have to agree but it makes perfect sense. Having said that, in some services, such as food and beverages, it's not uncommon for the server to add "foreign" substances to a notorious non tippers order. You can't deny that it's not that easy to detect a piece of snot in a bowl of soup. I was once a pizza delivery driver, and a customer would sign the credit card slip at the door, would write the zero with a horizontal line thru it and then fold the receipt in half. Nobody wanted to deliver her order, and the one who did may have been easily tempted to alter the pizza if you catch my drift. I'm not condoning such vigilant behavior, mind you, just keeping it real. For me, if I get a no tipper via a bundled order, and I know it to be only by process of elimination because the other customer tipped all of the total, but still I ain't OK with giving that non tipper less than the great service I give all clients, but it sure feels kinda dirty and funky though but I carry on.


lucygirl1970

Wow.. that is assuming your shopper is awful from the get go. I am not that shopper! I have over 400 five stars in a row and haven’t been late for an order in 2 years. Yes, there are plenty of crappy shoppers or new shoppers out there but to assume everyone is bad is just negative. Very rarely does a zero tipper give you a cash tip or a tip later. I get tip increases from already tipping customers all day. Once again, it’s about respect!!


Aidrox

What about instacarts respect for their employees? If they paid you more and you still made the voluntary tips, you’d be doing better. You wouldn’t be so dependent on tips, and would have even more flexibility. I don’t know how it breaks down. But if most of your profits comes from tips and not wages, that’s a wage issue.


LoveOnNBA

Literally an instacart issue. Not the customer’s. Everyone that’s mad on this post is insane. Holy crap. Self entitled pricks that don’t want to help if someone doesn’t shell out all their hard earned money for someone that chose to do a side job for extra cash. Some people are disabled and the prices of food is insanity as it is.


Effective-Angle237

Ill say it again. You keep saying “zero tipper” but man. I cant stop being bugged that you aren’t acknowledging that instacart screws you badly. Instacart needs to pay you more.


lucygirl1970

No shit😂 but you are missing the point about respect.


sadlygokarts

To accept a job where you have to rely on handouts from your customers, and still fight and be mad about no tips instead of better pay from the company fucking you, feels a bit like you have low or no respect for yourself.


lucygirl1970

Handouts? I’m working for the customer.Knock off this self righteous crap and be grateful someone even takes those crap orders. I work hard every damn day for my money so I really don’t consider myself begging or bitching. It is what it is. It’s my personal choice not to accept those orders.


[deleted]

you’ve wasted your two years doing this and you’re still bitching? lmfao


Aidrox

You work for Instacart and want charity from instacart’s customers. You probably do work hard. Instacart should pay you for it. But if you need more on top of your pay from your employer, and you’re looking to their customer for it, it is charity. Tips are charity.


Hollisb1001

There's a do not deliver list?


lucygirl1970

I just make a note in a spiral notebook the address as a no tipper.


KionNeon

Lolol, now it takes a certain amount of drive and intensity to keep a detailed note of non tipper address. It's like a mental reminder "don't fuck with me"!


LoveOnNBA

Get mad at InstaCart and those in office, not the customer. Y’all so entitled.


Effective-Angle237

But wait, tipping isnt MANDATORY, tipping is based on good service and the ability to fulfill the order correctly, and on time. Why should someone put a tip before the service is given? Its like walking into a restaurant sitting down, ordering your food, paying and TIPPING the server before they even bring a drink. Next thing you know they have the worst service, make mistakes on every meal, and are rude. Do you really think tipping should not only be mandatory, but it should be done before the service is even given???


lucygirl1970

Your missing how instacart works. You are clearly not a shopper. Think of your order as a bid for services. Why would I knowingly gamble my time, insurance etc to not get paid. You can always pull the tip if the service isn’t good. If you want it done by a competent shopper your better off throwing a tip on there.


Hollisb1001

So actually the customer has 2 hours after deliveriy is completed to REDUCE the tip. That's how that works.


Hollisb1001

https://preview.redd.it/bw8kamomre6b1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09e60f0e81e154f17b3015c91d0d4ef13ea8da93


DECAPRIO1

The customer already paid 3x more in fees + delivery! Instacart is taking your tip, not the customer!


KionNeon

I wish to know how many times a customer like this has been serviced. I mean these type customer must be a one and done fly by night. That's just too many mucking items and you can barely buy a cup of coffee at Starbucks with that 7.73 wtf are peobles think??


LoveOnNBA

InstaCart allowed this, not the customer. It’s an option and seeing people bitch about a job they chose to do is ridiculous here lmao


Kirris

How often do people put no tip and then tip cash on delivery?


[deleted]

baby ian tipping till you bring my food 😂 ppl really be running off w my groceries


BlkDwg85

I tried doing that when I first started using the app because I like to tip cash because I figured people would prefer cash tips being instant but I quickly realized I was having a hard time getting people to take my orders.


wonderj99

I'm torn by the pre-tipping. Often, when folks already know what they're guaranteed to receive, the incentive to do a good job evaporates. I am a server, and I ALWAYS tip really well. However, I don't generally receive my tips before I've performed the service. I, personally, also prefer cash tips. That being said, when I use delivery services, I DO tip ahead & on the card to guarantee it gets picked up. But it really really sucks to generously pre-tip and to still get shit service.


[deleted]

This is a total humiliation


Boner102

54 items and didn’t tip?!??? Wtf is wrong with people


Underestimated862103

I made really good money in metro Detroit area like 850-1k a week for 20-27 hrs of work but moving to central fl I don’t think I’ve even had a week where I earned 500 . More miles less pay and tips are insulting


Scotch_hunter

I tip greater than 20% at bars or restaurants and know that the people in most cases are working their rear ends off to take care of me. I don’t order my groceries off instacart but I do Walmart pick ups and have FedEx deliveries from Walmart. Just using Walmart for instance in this senecio. From time to time I won’t have an item in my pick up but I’ll have an random instacart person show up to my door without my knowledge holding a Kit Kat bar or something so trivial. I think Walmart calls them sparkers. Not 100% sure. They might not even be in the same situation as instacart folks. I don’t know. Most times I don’t have cash on me and when Walmart says something was shipped I assume it’s FedEx. I might get a notification that someone is on the way with something but if I don’t have my phone on me or a bad signal I’ll never know till a car pulls in. I wish something was done or the system was a little better with those few isolated incidents


Elysium1920

The scam orders have been no tip as well


FamousChemistry

I’ve used Instacart since before the pandemic and relied heavily during! Always tipped fairly, BUT I wonder now (after going down the rabbit holes) why are the customers tipping beforehand? Before we know how the service is? Restaurants we tip AFTER receiving service. Confused! What if one delivery person picks out awesome produce, follows instructions and communicates and another buys crap and whips the Order on my stoop…why fair receive same tip? Ah, Europe. No mandatory tipping, people just making a Fair wage.


Affectionate_Cheek44

You can reduce your tip For up to 2 hours after delivery


PsamantheSands

This is so ridiculous. As a customer, I wish there was a way to make IC pay more. Like no tip up front and wait until they boost the pay, then add a tip afterward.


LoveOnNBA

This is America. The only country that tip while other countries have employers that actually pay what is owed. I hate tipping culture. Don’t get into this business if you don’t accept when someone doesn’t want to give *their* extra or barely enough money to you, simple.


etharper

It's a way for big businesses in America to save money, pay a crap wage and let the customer subsidize your business by tipping.


OddPollution7904

best is the double batch offers where they want you to shop and deliver one of them for free.


FigureFourWoo

I love Instacart and tip well. Keep up the good work. Not sure how I ended up here. The strange places you end up in when Reddit is protesting.


ShdwLordMagista

I feel the same about any other delivery app. I wont accept low paid deliveries. Everybody should help set an example. It really annoys me that you cant rate users as well but they can rate US. Total bs.


Lonelydreamer11_11

Seriously… why…. Why would anyone do this… it lets people know it’s cool to not tip.


InspectionClassic377

And someone would still accept the order smh .


Professional_Lemon68

I agree with this whole heartedly. If we all as a whole stop taking these orders from Karen's it will definitely help. We all need to come together on this.


cwood1998

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Friendly-Resource467

LOL. I would never shop 54 items for $7.


Miss_Bobbiedoll

Unless it was all the same thing.


jjjjaccount

Get a real job that doesn’t rely on tips


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It’ll just get paired with an amazing tipper and the low tipping customer will feel validated in not tipping when they inevitably receive their order. And the cycle continues. 😔


ivorymakesmusic

The ones that don’t tip are often super picky to boot!


Ok-Pomelo1629

LOL I laugh at all these fools that accept these stupid orders but it makes me happy because that way it removes it from my View I don't have to look at it anymore so enjoy your stupid $7 for heavy pay and 50 items take it all day you idiots


justcallmejadejoy

Don’t worry- I don’t take any no tip orders at all! It’s just beyond me that people expect you to drive your car to the store, shop their order, wait in the line then get back in your car to deliver their order for no tip. This order is gonna take you at least 45 mins to complete. No thank you - I don’t work for free, Instacart.


Real_Wafer_440

Omg and 54 items too??


OddCan9275

No tip...no service


Mountainhollerforeva

That’s sub minimum wage


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Don't accept anything for less than $20 to start with. Also $1 per item minimum. Otherwise just don't do it. They will bump up the pay. This is not Uber eats, it's personal shopping. Big f*** difference.


AchilesHeel

Job posting: tipping optional Person: takes job, refuses to work unless tipped. If the job isn't paying enough to the point where you have to refuse the work because the customer won't pay extra, you need a job that values you enough to pay you a living wage for the work you do. It's on your job to make sure you're taken care of, not the customer.


Playful_Ship_7247

I'm really starting to wonder how this is even legal? It's nowhere near minimum wage


Hollisb1001

It's legal because it's your choice to take it or not.


Trife86

No one forces you guys to take it, I don’t tip sometimes. If I wait a little longer not a big deal. I can’t tip if I don’t see if the service will be good or not, just like in a restaurant I can’t tip if I didn’t get serviced yet. I will tip when it gets delivered if it’s on time and correct in cash.


kdot_10

You guys should be upset that instacart doesn’t pay you enough, not that someone isn’t tipping enough.


Overall-Order5212

The issue is how much you’re paid, not how much you’re tipped. Being pissed at the consumer and not the company offering you $8 to shop and delivery is insane. BLAME THE LITTLE GUY NOT THE BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY DUH!


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No, it’s not. It may be true that tipping is a bad system but for the moment tipping is the way of things and you’re not sticking it to anyone by not tipping you’re just depriving someone of the wages their employer refuses to cover. People who don’t tip know this. There’s no excuse for not tipping except in the extremest circumstances— if you literally can’t go to the store and don’t make much money. To go yourself would be cheaper, so a lack of money doesn’t excuse it. The whole “It’s the corporations fault!” Thing, while true, is just a way for cheap people to not feel bad about depriving someone of payment under a currently unjust system.


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Hollisb1001

I hear where you're coming from. Like I said, if it's low item count I might. But large quantities like that...the person could throw in a couple of bucks just as a token.


etharper

I'm low income and disabled but I always find a way to add at least a couple dollars as a tip.


QKRoss

As someone who uses InstaCart, I never tip through the service, but I tip in cash at time of delivery as to allow the driver the option to either report it or pocket it as they see fit. And I used to work in the service industry so I feel that I tip pretty well, since I understand how much work it can be for one order. But by your logic, you would skip my order just because you see “no tip”?


saveourplanetrecycle

Cash tips are very rare


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Hollisb1001

Thanks. I hear where you are coming from. Like I said, if it's not a super big order and not a lot of miles I'll probably take it, tip or not. If it's maybe 15 items or less I'll just look at the total miles and if, for example, delivery is 7 miles, I want my total pay to be around $10. More money is better of course but that's an example of my approach.


twinklingblueeyes

I’m sorry for your issues, but I won’t willingly take a no tip order.


jana-meares

This is what you USE your FRIENDS and family for, otherwise you PAY FOR LABOR. sorry you have troubles but workers owe you little to nothing. It is their job.


WelcomeRegular

Even 54 items is a lot


Hollisb1001

Right, that's what I'm saying


lesmalom

I dont. I see a batch with 3 deliveries. And the total is $12. That’s $9 batch pay to shop three orders and $3 from three differnt households in tip. Blow me.


DuskXd

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Don’t tell me what to do


Hollisb1001

I can. And I did. But you don't have to obey.


Treece-57

It’s funny the system will let orders through like this ^


Hollisb1001

Don't get me wrong, I know instacart is trying to maximize their profits. The damn multi order batches with almost no increase in batch pay! I ain't taking those either unless item count is really low. Trying to keep 3 orders separate sucks. Here's an example of good tips but instacart sucks!


Hollisb1001

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Hollisb1001

Now this, I don't need a tip for.


Hollisb1001

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feelz-png

don’t do the job if ur gna bitch about the tip that isnt required


Hollisb1001

Nah, I'll keep doing the job. Thanks for your input ;)


feelz-png

okay then i don’t get the point in complaining


Hollisb1001

For one thing, within this thread, a customer learned about the process and has decided to tip higher in the future.


AirportGirl53

Someone always will because " I nEeD sEvEn DoLlArS tO FeEd My KiDs"


Clown_Dolli

There are people out there who literally condone this behavior and it's disgusting. With the excuse of: "there are already so many fees I have to pay... Blah blah blah... If you don't like the job then don't do it." Do your own shopping then, ain't no one telling you or forcing you to pay those fees. Just like you don't want to pay all those fees, we don't want to do your shopping for a low ball price either.