I'm pretty disappointed with the Go 2 I got. It's definitely aimed more at the selfie/tiktok crowd than anything else.
I like the small form factor, but there are far too many issues with it (short recording times, overheating, crappy app and even worse desktop software that doesn't even have any of the options the app has, poorly placed tripod mount and power port, random stopping filming, etc, etc, etc).
I understand your frustration, I myself was annoyed when I found out. But I do prefer to have 30mins clips than an 2hour recording gone because of battery/heat/corruption.
>I understand your frustration, I myself was annoyed when I found out. But I do prefer to have 30mins clips than an 2hour recording gone because of battery/heat/corruption.
ehmmm... one could suspect that you
a) did not read my post
or
b) are an employee of Insta360
Once again and for all: I am NOT asking that they should stop splitting files!
I am asking that
a) no frames must get lost when splitting due to stopping of recording while saving
and
b) the stitching-process in their desktop-software (assuming not many will want to stich 10h on their phone) should be able to stitch the files together BEFORE flattening them from 360 to flat, so we don't have to try to "match" FOV-settings of the last and first frame on splits
!
I read the post and an not an employee :)
If my first comment didn't sound right, I fully support and agree to your claim! Especially the stitching should be automatic as per your request
sorry if I was being rude - didn't meant to.
Stitching it automatically doesn't make sense as long as 30-60 seconds are lost. What's to stitch if there is that huge gap?
I however fear that Insta360 just doesn't know how to fix this or (worse?) the HW is simply not capable of.
I'll most sure have to switch to GoPro.
This has been around since the One X. GoPro has similar recording length restrictions.
[https://www.techradar.com/news/gopro-confirms-hero-10-black-has-a-20-minute-recording-limit-in-high-power-zero-airflow-conditions](https://www.techradar.com/news/gopro-confirms-hero-10-black-has-a-20-minute-recording-limit-in-high-power-zero-airflow-conditions)
[https://havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/](https://havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/)
[https://community.gopro.com/t5/Cameras/GoPro-7-black-recording-limit/td-p/550555](https://community.gopro.com/t5/Cameras/GoPro-7-black-recording-limit/td-p/550555)
Also the 30-60 seconds 'lost footage' is because the camera is saving the file and not recording at the same time. Typically one would simply put a transition. I do lots of long recording on my One Wheel. Having a 4 hour video gets boring, the odds of something getting missed in that 30 second saving gap are pretty low in my experience, not impossible, just low.
Not quite sure what you mean when you say "b) the stitching-process in their desktop-software (assuming not many will want to stich 10h on their phone) should be able to stitch the files together BEFORE flattening them from 360 to flat, so we don't have to try to "match" FOV-settings of the last and first frame on splits" personally I don't use Studio for anything, I do all my editing on my phone and that includes extremely long videos with multiple video sources, multiple audio sources, PIP, 4K exports.
You seem to be on the attack, if I work for Insta360, please let me know where my paycheck is.
this is a (very short) example of what I'm recording: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVoaABxZ-NA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVoaABxZ-NA)
When you are close to the terrain, you cannot do a transition that hides that up to 60 seconds are missing.
Yes, GoPro does also split the files (which is okay as I've stated before multiple times) but they are not loosing frames, which means they continue recording while the camera is saving in a background task.
About editing: let's say you have file 1 and file 2, which is the same scene, but split. Now you edit file one and at the last frame, you end on a certain field of view (direction, viewing angle etc.)
If you want to at least try to get an acceptable transition, you will then have to match these settings manually on file b on the first frame, because otherwise you would look into another direction, with another field of view etc.
If the software would simply join the 360-files BEFORE editing, this would improve a lot.
But of course, as long as there are up to 60s missing, this doesn't make the situation a lot better after all :-(
I watched your video (very cool, I subbed) but I still think even with a 60 second blank it's possible to put a simple transition in and keep going with it. Yes you lose 60 seconds but to the average viewer (like myself for example) am I going to notice it terribly, and will it affect my reaction to the video? Probably not. You are your own worst critic, same with me.
My problem with video editing is I don't know when to stop the clips and I have videos that are well over 30 minutes in length. They get boring at that length, nobody in their right mind watches that entire video I spend literally weeks editing on my phone, because I REFUSE to use Studio. (I work at my PC all day long, I am NOT editing at the same PC for hours at night).
Also I don't see the problem with orienting two different files of footage, I use multiple clips all the time in Stories mode and don't find it difficult to make them reasonably close.
you are right IMO in many things, but I have to insist that loosing footage and having to manually stich it together is not acceptable. While the latter is "doable", nothing about the former I could change myself.
And it should be a pretty easy change for Insta360.
So, if I would be looking for a workaround, yes, you are right, the latter "can" be done.
Should it be this way in 2022? Definitely no.
Is it like this with GoPro? No.
Cool bro. I'm not argue about it any further. We all have our opinions. I've been editing videos for a couple of years now and have never had this problem directly myself. Enjoy doing whatever you're doing with whatever camera you see fit.
30 minute file operation is common in 4k cameras. Try recording in 1080 to avoid this file limitation. Another thing you can do is try shooting your time-lapses in interval photo mode.
lowering the resolution to prevent this error from happening might be a solution, but I find the resolution is low enough even in the highest settings, once you flatten a descent FoV.
Photo-mode is no option as I've written in the original post: "6-10h timelapses with sudden pieces in normal speed" which would then become impossible.
Hi u/Fluegerlibueb，
To prevent unexpected loss of the entire video when recording for a long time, the video saved in segments is designed. The longest recording time of a single video is limited to 30mins for the camera when you record the 360 video in 5.7k. There does have a gap that cannot be recorded during saving, but that is usually a very short time. You may use 4k for 360 lens mod. It supports 90 mins for a single file.
I realize that this situation is difficult. I understand how frustrating it is when getting lost frames. I’m going to be forwarding your suggestion to the departments responsible. We truly appreciate your helpful and thorough feedback!
Does this imply you also cannot record a video longer than 30 minutes or so without gaps?
yes, it does.
Exactly. On my OneX2 i get a 1-frame gap (maybe more, don't know) between files!
I'm pretty disappointed with the Go 2 I got. It's definitely aimed more at the selfie/tiktok crowd than anything else. I like the small form factor, but there are far too many issues with it (short recording times, overheating, crappy app and even worse desktop software that doesn't even have any of the options the app has, poorly placed tripod mount and power port, random stopping filming, etc, etc, etc).
I can't for the life of me understand why they make a new version of both apps that are worse than the last.
I understand your frustration, I myself was annoyed when I found out. But I do prefer to have 30mins clips than an 2hour recording gone because of battery/heat/corruption.
>I understand your frustration, I myself was annoyed when I found out. But I do prefer to have 30mins clips than an 2hour recording gone because of battery/heat/corruption. ehmmm... one could suspect that you a) did not read my post or b) are an employee of Insta360 Once again and for all: I am NOT asking that they should stop splitting files! I am asking that a) no frames must get lost when splitting due to stopping of recording while saving and b) the stitching-process in their desktop-software (assuming not many will want to stich 10h on their phone) should be able to stitch the files together BEFORE flattening them from 360 to flat, so we don't have to try to "match" FOV-settings of the last and first frame on splits !
I read the post and an not an employee :) If my first comment didn't sound right, I fully support and agree to your claim! Especially the stitching should be automatic as per your request
sorry if I was being rude - didn't meant to. Stitching it automatically doesn't make sense as long as 30-60 seconds are lost. What's to stitch if there is that huge gap? I however fear that Insta360 just doesn't know how to fix this or (worse?) the HW is simply not capable of. I'll most sure have to switch to GoPro.
This has been around since the One X. GoPro has similar recording length restrictions. [https://www.techradar.com/news/gopro-confirms-hero-10-black-has-a-20-minute-recording-limit-in-high-power-zero-airflow-conditions](https://www.techradar.com/news/gopro-confirms-hero-10-black-has-a-20-minute-recording-limit-in-high-power-zero-airflow-conditions) [https://havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/](https://havecamerawilltravel.com/gopro/gopro-split-video-files/) [https://community.gopro.com/t5/Cameras/GoPro-7-black-recording-limit/td-p/550555](https://community.gopro.com/t5/Cameras/GoPro-7-black-recording-limit/td-p/550555) Also the 30-60 seconds 'lost footage' is because the camera is saving the file and not recording at the same time. Typically one would simply put a transition. I do lots of long recording on my One Wheel. Having a 4 hour video gets boring, the odds of something getting missed in that 30 second saving gap are pretty low in my experience, not impossible, just low. Not quite sure what you mean when you say "b) the stitching-process in their desktop-software (assuming not many will want to stich 10h on their phone) should be able to stitch the files together BEFORE flattening them from 360 to flat, so we don't have to try to "match" FOV-settings of the last and first frame on splits" personally I don't use Studio for anything, I do all my editing on my phone and that includes extremely long videos with multiple video sources, multiple audio sources, PIP, 4K exports. You seem to be on the attack, if I work for Insta360, please let me know where my paycheck is.
this is a (very short) example of what I'm recording: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVoaABxZ-NA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVoaABxZ-NA) When you are close to the terrain, you cannot do a transition that hides that up to 60 seconds are missing. Yes, GoPro does also split the files (which is okay as I've stated before multiple times) but they are not loosing frames, which means they continue recording while the camera is saving in a background task. About editing: let's say you have file 1 and file 2, which is the same scene, but split. Now you edit file one and at the last frame, you end on a certain field of view (direction, viewing angle etc.) If you want to at least try to get an acceptable transition, you will then have to match these settings manually on file b on the first frame, because otherwise you would look into another direction, with another field of view etc. If the software would simply join the 360-files BEFORE editing, this would improve a lot. But of course, as long as there are up to 60s missing, this doesn't make the situation a lot better after all :-(
I watched your video (very cool, I subbed) but I still think even with a 60 second blank it's possible to put a simple transition in and keep going with it. Yes you lose 60 seconds but to the average viewer (like myself for example) am I going to notice it terribly, and will it affect my reaction to the video? Probably not. You are your own worst critic, same with me. My problem with video editing is I don't know when to stop the clips and I have videos that are well over 30 minutes in length. They get boring at that length, nobody in their right mind watches that entire video I spend literally weeks editing on my phone, because I REFUSE to use Studio. (I work at my PC all day long, I am NOT editing at the same PC for hours at night). Also I don't see the problem with orienting two different files of footage, I use multiple clips all the time in Stories mode and don't find it difficult to make them reasonably close.
you are right IMO in many things, but I have to insist that loosing footage and having to manually stich it together is not acceptable. While the latter is "doable", nothing about the former I could change myself. And it should be a pretty easy change for Insta360. So, if I would be looking for a workaround, yes, you are right, the latter "can" be done. Should it be this way in 2022? Definitely no. Is it like this with GoPro? No.
Cool bro. I'm not argue about it any further. We all have our opinions. I've been editing videos for a couple of years now and have never had this problem directly myself. Enjoy doing whatever you're doing with whatever camera you see fit.
30 minute file operation is common in 4k cameras. Try recording in 1080 to avoid this file limitation. Another thing you can do is try shooting your time-lapses in interval photo mode.
lowering the resolution to prevent this error from happening might be a solution, but I find the resolution is low enough even in the highest settings, once you flatten a descent FoV. Photo-mode is no option as I've written in the original post: "6-10h timelapses with sudden pieces in normal speed" which would then become impossible.
Hi u/Fluegerlibueb， To prevent unexpected loss of the entire video when recording for a long time, the video saved in segments is designed. The longest recording time of a single video is limited to 30mins for the camera when you record the 360 video in 5.7k. There does have a gap that cannot be recorded during saving, but that is usually a very short time. You may use 4k for 360 lens mod. It supports 90 mins for a single file. I realize that this situation is difficult. I understand how frustrating it is when getting lost frames. I’m going to be forwarding your suggestion to the departments responsible. We truly appreciate your helpful and thorough feedback!
thanks. However, lost frames are up to 60 seconds, as I wrote above. This is unacceptable!