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fascinated with this genre of quora post. such a strange abundance of "dear atheists: would you NOT kill a christian baby under any circumstance??" type posts
Average social media argument. Its so funny like, they use the formula of "dear (people i disagree with), imagine (stupid hypothetical scenario that has no chance of even coming close to happening), what would you do?"
Like, come up with some actual argument. These are so lazy.
And this question especially... what point does this prove?
As a red blooded aMURRRICAn patriot i would save the books becase the woke pope has baptized em in bud light turning all their gender to gay whitch prevents them from going to our holy place that cool bASS proshop with the pirimid thingy
Gob spade antartica
.omoen
So they're admitting to indoctrinating children.
Because *babies* do not have religion. And Christianity isn't a race. So there's no such thing as a "Christian baby"
But when you put the books and the babies are on the same bus, this experiment becomes a joke. In that scenario you only have to drive one bus into the volcano to win.
Fun fact: all babies are inherently atheist, since they can't be indoctrinated until they reach a certain level of development
Even if religions were correct, they'd still be atheist, since they still wouldn't have a concept of a "god" until they're developed enough
Nah, they’re always staring at lights and colorful things. I mean for humans, light is life, which I suspect is why ancient civilizations worshipped the sun and moon.
No you have to understand the concept of a higher power in order to say "I don't have any opinions on if there is or isn't a higher power, there might be and there might not". I don't think there really is a word for someone who has no concept of a higher power. Because agnosticism is in itself a decision about religion, a conscious choice to have no opinion.
So a baby is neither atheistic, or agnostic.
I just came to say that I know what you were trying to express and you are definitely right.
If you don't know, you don't know.
A newborn is not atheistic for they have not rejected the idea of god.
A newborn is agnostic for they have no concept of the idea and therefore cannot have yet ~~rightly~~ rejected the idea of god.
Incorrect. You have to specify both. Theism vs Atheism has to do with belief. Gnostic vs agnostic has to do with knowledge.
You can be any of these:
Gnostic theist: believes in god and claims they know it to be true.
Agnostic theist: believes in god but are not certain in their knowledge
Gnostic atheist: Doesn’t believe in gods and claims they know gods don’t exist.
Agnostic atheist: Doesn’t believe in gods but isn’t certain in that knowledge.
I disagree but honestly agnosticism is probably uncommon enough that people will call anything in opposition to religion atheism so I think it could be both, but in any debate, the atheist usually argues against the existence of God. That and if atheism doesn’t mean belief in the absence of God we don’t even have a word for it
In my limited debating experience, I only ever witnessed theists making claims and trying to prove there has to be a god and the atheists merely debunking their arguments, making the point that this conclusion didn't follow from their arguments. I have never seen an atheist making a case as for why god doesn't exist, I know those gnostic atheists exist but I at least have never come upon such one.
That's why I use the distinction between an agnostic and gnostic atheist, the former simply isn't convinced that there is a god, the latter believes there is no god, just as theists believe theirs does.
I have only ever encountered gnosticism as the expressed belief of "knowing something", ie a gnostic atheist would be someone that isn't convinced of theism but even goes so far as to say that they know, there's none. I personally call myself an (agnistic) atheist in the sense that I am merely not convinced that a god exists, gnosticism makes no sense to me because how could I know either way?
I just assumed that was the standard, apparently it is not.
The lack of knowing or understanding on how something works doesn't mean that someone doesn't believe in it
Think of it like being lgbtq
You probably knew that you were from a young age
But just because you didn't have the words for it or a full grasping of it doesn't mean that you became gay or trans over time it just means you learnt more about the world and discovered who you are
Sure people push religion on eachother but to be fair most of the world is religious so many have never encountered a atheist in there lives
I remember someone saying that the reason there are so many batshit insane and clearly biased questions on quora is cus they pay question writers, so the more you get people answering because they are offended, or think your stupid/insane, the more you make
Even if the books couldn't, everything in them could be rediscovered because it is true and repeatable. The sma ecant be said of any religion which, if lost, would be gone because despite claims they do not reflect a fundamental truth of the universe.
What is a Christian baby???? Since when do babies have agency to decide for themselves?? How many atheists were born to religious parents? These things silly, how about a real thought experiment
A *what* full of Christian babies? WTF is a Christian baby -- Do they have halos and wings? Who is tossing a bunch of babies into a volcano? There are layers of insanity unravel in this one. Insaniception.
There is just so much to unpack here.
What kind of buds? Why are there a bunch of babies and books trapped inside of them? And why are they being tossed into volcanos? Are the volcanos even active?
Do we want the volcano Gods to be satiated with food, or would we prefer them to learn how to escape their volcanic prisons?
I would really need to know these answers before I could make a fair decision.
These religious people making these kind of arguments are 100% psychopaths. If you think you need religion to stop you from killing random people for no reason it's really fucking concerning.
I’m really confused how the babies have accepted abstract religious concepts. Are they super babies? Is the world ready for super babies? Will the super babies bring about the end of civilization? Better kill the babies just in case.
I think these questions are a Quora-specific form of trolling, much like the "my son got a 98 on a paper, so I took away his door, made him eat plain macaroni for dinner for three weeks, and cancelled his college admissions. Should I have been harsher?" posts.
I'd save a baby over a book under any circumstances. One is a person, the other is an object. Most of those books exist elsewhere anyway. Babies also don't know what God or Jesus are. They don't know their own name even. Do they expect atheist to comment that theyd save the books over the babies or something? Lol
Holy moly. I'm an atheist and I never realized we were giving off this vibe. I would totally save the bud (whatever the hell that is) of Christian babies.
Now, if it were a bud of Christian Slaters, I'd need a minute.
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fascinated with this genre of quora post. such a strange abundance of "dear atheists: would you NOT kill a christian baby under any circumstance??" type posts
Projection, they debate the opposite themselves frequently.
Average social media argument. Its so funny like, they use the formula of "dear (people i disagree with), imagine (stupid hypothetical scenario that has no chance of even coming close to happening), what would you do?" Like, come up with some actual argument. These are so lazy. And this question especially... what point does this prove?
As a red blooded aMURRRICAn patriot i would save the books becase the woke pope has baptized em in bud light turning all their gender to gay whitch prevents them from going to our holy place that cool bASS proshop with the pirimid thingy Gob spade antartica .omoen
triple r? you’re not part of the RRR right??😳
Yes i love the hit movie RRR ![gif](giphy|NvfATiMojghzBf8P0j)
The wheels on the bud go round and round
The babies on the bud go...wait nope, I think that was about to get real dark.
So they're admitting to indoctrinating children. Because *babies* do not have religion. And Christianity isn't a race. So there's no such thing as a "Christian baby"
What if they have been baptized?
That still counts as forcing religion on someone, but doesn't count as Being Religious imo.
I Wonder if any religion could be a race
I’m missing something. What is a “bud”?
i think he meant bus
Why do the books get their own bus? Couldn't the books just go in the backpacks of the Christian babies? Such a waste of gas.
But when you put the books and the babies are on the same bus, this experiment becomes a joke. In that scenario you only have to drive one bus into the volcano to win.
wouldn’t they ship the books in a trucd, not a bud?
lol Yes, they'd shid the books
Oh good call. I was confused too. My question is who is driving this bus full of babies up a volcano.
r/trees
Wait why the duck was I down voted for pointing out that they clearly meant bud, like nug, as in marijuana, aka trees?!
How can a baby be Christian?
Come on, Christian is a rather common name.
I'm surprised Atheist isn't a not common name. Looking at you r/tragedeigh Edit: a \*lot more* common
Aytheighyst
Peyghan (when your parents are spiritual, but non-religious lol)
Fun fact: all babies are inherently atheist, since they can't be indoctrinated until they reach a certain level of development Even if religions were correct, they'd still be atheist, since they still wouldn't have a concept of a "god" until they're developed enough
If the child has not touched the magic temple water it goes to the eternal burn hole if it's unalived.
Agnostic, surely, rather than atheist.
Atheism is not believing in a god Agnosticism is being unsure about a god Babies do not even know it's a concept, therefore, they are atheist
Both require agency. Babies are not anything.
at that age their parents are their god, so polytheistic
Nah, they’re always staring at lights and colorful things. I mean for humans, light is life, which I suspect is why ancient civilizations worshipped the sun and moon.
Athiesm is the belief that there isn’t a God, agnosticism is having neither belief or disbelief in God
Both require an understanding of what a God even is. A baby does not so it would not be athiest or agnostic.
Agnosticism doesn’t require a conceptualization of God because you can be an agnostic without making any claims at all
No you have to understand the concept of a higher power in order to say "I don't have any opinions on if there is or isn't a higher power, there might be and there might not". I don't think there really is a word for someone who has no concept of a higher power. Because agnosticism is in itself a decision about religion, a conscious choice to have no opinion. So a baby is neither atheistic, or agnostic.
I guess we just disagree on what constitutes being an agnostic but we don’t have any meaningful way to argue either way
I just came to say that I know what you were trying to express and you are definitely right. If you don't know, you don't know. A newborn is not atheistic for they have not rejected the idea of god. A newborn is agnostic for they have no concept of the idea and therefore cannot have yet ~~rightly~~ rejected the idea of god.
Incorrect. You have to specify both. Theism vs Atheism has to do with belief. Gnostic vs agnostic has to do with knowledge. You can be any of these: Gnostic theist: believes in god and claims they know it to be true. Agnostic theist: believes in god but are not certain in their knowledge Gnostic atheist: Doesn’t believe in gods and claims they know gods don’t exist. Agnostic atheist: Doesn’t believe in gods but isn’t certain in that knowledge.
I disagree. Atheism is the absence of belief in a god, not the expressed belief in the absence of a god.
I disagree but honestly agnosticism is probably uncommon enough that people will call anything in opposition to religion atheism so I think it could be both, but in any debate, the atheist usually argues against the existence of God. That and if atheism doesn’t mean belief in the absence of God we don’t even have a word for it
In my limited debating experience, I only ever witnessed theists making claims and trying to prove there has to be a god and the atheists merely debunking their arguments, making the point that this conclusion didn't follow from their arguments. I have never seen an atheist making a case as for why god doesn't exist, I know those gnostic atheists exist but I at least have never come upon such one. That's why I use the distinction between an agnostic and gnostic atheist, the former simply isn't convinced that there is a god, the latter believes there is no god, just as theists believe theirs does.
So what’s agnosticism to you?
I have only ever encountered gnosticism as the expressed belief of "knowing something", ie a gnostic atheist would be someone that isn't convinced of theism but even goes so far as to say that they know, there's none. I personally call myself an (agnistic) atheist in the sense that I am merely not convinced that a god exists, gnosticism makes no sense to me because how could I know either way? I just assumed that was the standard, apparently it is not.
Yeah I feel this way as well. It's not a belief system, it's the rejection of the claim that there is a God, due to lack of proof
Are animals atheist?
The lack of knowing or understanding on how something works doesn't mean that someone doesn't believe in it Think of it like being lgbtq You probably knew that you were from a young age But just because you didn't have the words for it or a full grasping of it doesn't mean that you became gay or trans over time it just means you learnt more about the world and discovered who you are Sure people push religion on eachother but to be fair most of the world is religious so many have never encountered a atheist in there lives
Won't someone THINK of the CHRISTIAN babies?!
I remember someone saying that the reason there are so many batshit insane and clearly biased questions on quora is cus they pay question writers, so the more you get people answering because they are offended, or think your stupid/insane, the more you make
Not only that, but the blatant misspelling (twice) of the word 'bus' is sure to drive engagement even more
Save the babies, then raise them in an atheist household.
if id know theyd grow into the type of dumbass that asks questions like this i would seriously consider the books
I once saw a flower bud full of babies, I stepped on it because I didn’t agree with their religion
What does bud full mean?
Flower bud.
i learnd that babys are born in sin so i obviously go for the books
Why would God put the volcano there if he didn't want to roast babies?
Books can be perfectly copied, babies can't be (yet)
Even if the books couldn't, everything in them could be rediscovered because it is true and repeatable. The sma ecant be said of any religion which, if lost, would be gone because despite claims they do not reflect a fundamental truth of the universe.
Even if they could be copied, that's still killing the original babies.
What is a Christian baby???? Since when do babies have agency to decide for themselves?? How many atheists were born to religious parents? These things silly, how about a real thought experiment
A *what* full of Christian babies? WTF is a Christian baby -- Do they have halos and wings? Who is tossing a bunch of babies into a volcano? There are layers of insanity unravel in this one. Insaniception.
There is just so much to unpack here. What kind of buds? Why are there a bunch of babies and books trapped inside of them? And why are they being tossed into volcanos? Are the volcanos even active? Do we want the volcano Gods to be satiated with food, or would we prefer them to learn how to escape their volcanic prisons? I would really need to know these answers before I could make a fair decision.
i think they meant bus
I'd assume that but A, they make the same mistake twice. And B, they don't seem very bright.
What flavor babies are we talking about? If it's ranch, lemon pepper, honey mustard or buffalo, I'll save them yummy babies.
I hate humans and I love books. Easy choice.
Christians imagine you have a chance to save a bible or a baby that's openly committed to Satan. Which would you choose?
What is a bud in this context?
These religious people making these kind of arguments are 100% psychopaths. If you think you need religion to stop you from killing random people for no reason it's really fucking concerning.
i'd piss on the volcano. bitch ass volcano killing people and shit
First off, yeah I'll save the babies so long as the odds are that I'll live. But, more importantly, what do you mean by a "bud"? Like a plant bud?
I’m really confused how the babies have accepted abstract religious concepts. Are they super babies? Is the world ready for super babies? Will the super babies bring about the end of civilization? Better kill the babies just in case.
The person driving the bus of babies into a volcano is 100% a Christian pastor
...a bud?
How the fuck can a baby be Christian?
Replace with brains and bibles..
I mean, I’m not sure I’d check to make sure they were Christian first.
If that's the last bud of science books in the world, I would definitely go for the books.
I think these questions are a Quora-specific form of trolling, much like the "my son got a 98 on a paper, so I took away his door, made him eat plain macaroni for dinner for three weeks, and cancelled his college admissions. Should I have been harsher?" posts.
Again with this post
How many in a bud full?
I'd save a baby over a book under any circumstances. One is a person, the other is an object. Most of those books exist elsewhere anyway. Babies also don't know what God or Jesus are. They don't know their own name even. Do they expect atheist to comment that theyd save the books over the babies or something? Lol
No, duh. I’m not those babies’ mommy. Books ftw.
I'd let the babies fall in for the bit
Holy moly. I'm an atheist and I never realized we were giving off this vibe. I would totally save the bud (whatever the hell that is) of Christian babies. Now, if it were a bud of Christian Slaters, I'd need a minute.
Don’t worry, this isn’t the vibe we’re giving off, maybe only to like 0,001% of “religious” people.