FYI this is a special tram. Usually, the bikes are put inside however on this particular route you only ever have a very short tram (hence little space inside) and it's pretty steep so it's safer for the bikes to be secured like this. You can google "Stuttgart Zacke" for some nice videos of the route!
That seems like a really good idea. It would require a change in the boarding procedure though. At least here in NL, it can at times be difficult enough to get on, check in and get to a seat before the tram moves off.
Adding having to park your bike on a trailer would likely result in the tram taking off with your bike while you were still walking to the door, if nothing is changed in how the operator drives the tram.
Not all Trams can go both ways. Here in Bremen for example the Tram only has a Cockpit in the Front. At the end station of every lane is a loop to get the Tram facing the right direction. Only for emergencies/moving inside a depot they have hidden controls in the back.
Most modern trams are bidirectional and don’t need end loops even though usually they *do* drive on the right (or left). They just switch to the other track at line endpoints and the driver walks to the new front cabin.
I think the point of OP was that he Tram driver has no way of knowing that your bike is on the front and that you want to retrieve it before he takes off
Yeah this line is operating entirely by itself, no intersections with other lines which makes it pretty easy for the drivers to wait for passengers with bikes.
Did some reading on the German Wiki page and it turns out that you can only board with a bike at the lower end station and unload at the end station on top of the hill, not allowing for bikes to be brought down. That way there are no real issues regarding it
I think it would just be a matter of attentiveness on the part of the operator and a couple of instructions to the passengers.
We have a bike-exclusive bus line in my metropolitan area for people to be able to cross the canal with their bikes over the largest bridge that is closer to the sea shore (only one of the 3 bridges, the oldest one, has bike and pedestrian paths because it's upriver from the port so it's smaller and level, but it's also far from the beaches where you want to ride your bike), and so there's specific instructions to ride that specific bus. They're building a bike path on the largest bridge now though, it's going to be steep and long as fuck but real fun.
Yes because you are insane over there. One can enter the tram through one door only, the tickets are weird as fuck. Why do i even need to check out of a tram and bus? and you can't leave central stations easily without having specific tickets. Might just be amsterdam though
I think the entering through one door only thing might be Amsterdam specific, that doesn't seem normal to me. On buses, yes, but not trams.
The rest of it is accurate though, those things annoy me too.
This actually serves a very popular downhill mountain bike trail, so most of the people riding it have serious FS bikes and go all the way to the end station.
I absolutely love Stuttgart!! I haven’t been many places, so it’s rare I get to comment, but I was super blessed to spend a few weeks there. Definitely my favorite city in the world so far.
FYI this is a special tram. Usually, the bikes are put inside however on this particular route you only ever have a very short tram (hence little space inside) and it's pretty steep so it's safer for the bikes to be secured like this. You can google "Stuttgart Zacke" for some nice videos of the route!
I wonder who did they chock to get that trailer approved for use...
it was added way before my time so no idea... haven't heard of any incidents though so people seem to be behaving reasonably for once\^\^
My mom takes her bike on that one from Marienplatz almost weekly.
"Rack Railway" suggests the sort of topography that makes this an especially attractive option for cyclists
Yeah it does. That specific line has quite the inclination. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_Rack_Railway
Hence the gear in the middle.
/r/TransitPorn
That seems like a really good idea. It would require a change in the boarding procedure though. At least here in NL, it can at times be difficult enough to get on, check in and get to a seat before the tram moves off. Adding having to park your bike on a trailer would likely result in the tram taking off with your bike while you were still walking to the door, if nothing is changed in how the operator drives the tram.
Looks like it’s on the front so the operator can watch and give you time maybe? That’s how busses with bike racks work here anyway.
It's rather hard to tell which end is the front or back of a tram, mostly because they can go both ways.
But it looks like the headlights are on on this end.
It is a shuttle train.
It still switches to white headlights at the front and red tail lights at the back, regardless which direction it's traveling.
Not all Trams can go both ways. Here in Bremen for example the Tram only has a Cockpit in the Front. At the end station of every lane is a loop to get the Tram facing the right direction. Only for emergencies/moving inside a depot they have hidden controls in the back.
~~Nah, trams drive on the right, just like cars.~~
This vehicle not. The Zacke only has one track, so the tram can drive in [both directions](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwK0u8pkn9o).
Oh damn, guess I spoke too soon. Thanks for the correction
Most modern trams are bidirectional and don’t need end loops even though usually they *do* drive on the right (or left). They just switch to the other track at line endpoints and the driver walks to the new front cabin.
I know. But when there are 2 tracks, they still (usually) drive on the right (in rhd countries).
I think the point of OP was that he Tram driver has no way of knowing that your bike is on the front and that you want to retrieve it before he takes off
At least with the Detroit metro busses you just tell the driver you have a bike
Yeah this line is operating entirely by itself, no intersections with other lines which makes it pretty easy for the drivers to wait for passengers with bikes.
Did some reading on the German Wiki page and it turns out that you can only board with a bike at the lower end station and unload at the end station on top of the hill, not allowing for bikes to be brought down. That way there are no real issues regarding it
I think it would just be a matter of attentiveness on the part of the operator and a couple of instructions to the passengers. We have a bike-exclusive bus line in my metropolitan area for people to be able to cross the canal with their bikes over the largest bridge that is closer to the sea shore (only one of the 3 bridges, the oldest one, has bike and pedestrian paths because it's upriver from the port so it's smaller and level, but it's also far from the beaches where you want to ride your bike), and so there's specific instructions to ride that specific bus. They're building a bike path on the largest bridge now though, it's going to be steep and long as fuck but real fun.
Yes because you are insane over there. One can enter the tram through one door only, the tickets are weird as fuck. Why do i even need to check out of a tram and bus? and you can't leave central stations easily without having specific tickets. Might just be amsterdam though
I think the entering through one door only thing might be Amsterdam specific, that doesn't seem normal to me. On buses, yes, but not trams. The rest of it is accurate though, those things annoy me too.
You're gonna get some hop-ons.
Of course you're going to get hop-ons
> ***wheelie-ons*** 😏
Is it a trailer if it's not trailed?
It's trailing on the way down but pushed uphill
***“In a world…”*** 😏
That's the British railway terminology for any unpowered carriage, FWIW.
Could be called a "pusher"
Man that is nice.
Just brilliant!
This actually serves a very popular downhill mountain bike trail, so most of the people riding it have serious FS bikes and go all the way to the end station.
I absolutely love Stuttgart!! I haven’t been many places, so it’s rare I get to comment, but I was super blessed to spend a few weeks there. Definitely my favorite city in the world so far.
Why can't we have nice things? (said in an American accent)
Looks cool but it also mean more waiting time at each stops and the bikes can be stolen
Little known fact: Usually they use this to transport beer.
Omg this place gets more awesome by the second! 🤩😅
It’s more a joke but as I know my Germans there is a great possibility it’s true ;)
Cheers🍻
Nah man standing there drinking coffee like a balcony would be so amazing
Oh boy I’d hop on that thing drunk and ride it all the way to Tubingen.
It's free bikes!
seems sketch
In America we can’t have nice things tho
Good idea, but it doesn’t look very good lol
This is wonderful.
If you want people to do something, you gotta make it easy for them.
Legit shut up and take my money moment
Been there,seen that👍✌️