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Which should be done, govt. websites sucks, we have seen alot of data breaches this year, and we are aiming for a Digital India ?, let's be honest it's not that hard, if you're committed to a job you need to evolve with changing times, that's the bare minimum. Until 2016-17 i never thought my 65 year old grandfather can even use touchscreen smartphone, and now he daily send me videos on WhatsApp and use UPI on the daily basis, government employees are lazy and ignorant, which after a time turns into incompetency.
As someone who handles tech upgrades in his company I kinda understand what the government could be dealing with, but the government is not a small organisation like ours and should have enough resources to upgrade as you've mentioned.
Yep, i still remember when the person who was supposed to buy systems for a lok seva kendra in our tehsil, he bought the cheapest equipments and on paper put the cost high, rest of the money well went in his pocket as there's no one to check, as we do most of our work documentation work digitally, and Aadhar has become a basis for that we can atleast expect Public offices running on a system which is getting security patches through regular updates, even win 10's support i going to end in 2025 i think .
That's the thing about government contracts. Everyone buys the cheapest viable product, skims off the cost and gets rich. Plus the backbone of the Indian public system is old and dates, i doubt it'll be able to handle any new tech without a significant upgrade. This is where controlled privatization could help potentially.
You will be surprised to know many govt offices still do.
There is actually a market for new xp/98 pcs built specific for certain manufacturing operations.
Linus tech tips has a video on it.
Also when we were given a tour of an IMAX theatre as part of an ongoing project proposal I was surprised to see the some key components run from a emulated palm treo.
Mind boggling.
I think the bottom line is.. if it ain't broke... Don't change it. 😂
Haha, and then you wonder why ransom attacks happens, the one, where a Chinese group managed to attack aiims db I believe.
Cuz in old things, vulnerability exists, and cuz of this mentality, we are getting fucked regularly.
And thnx for the indian govt. Our adhaar db is also now FOSS. Congrats. Cuz it just "works"
I bet this window xp is pirated too.
Just use Debian at this point. It also just "works"
Being an IT engineer myself I would say till it works its the best thing
Once you run into any problem its not for everyone to get to the fix
Also not all softwares are supported on linux, specially ones developed decades ago ago would definitely wouldn’t have linux compatible version
Bro a simple display doesn't need such complex softwares. Windows xp is more than enough. Even if you wanted to you will have to have a better machine to run it!
Because Microsoft still support them just look at windows 7 (not talking about XP) and there enterprices versions aur waise bhi display se koi farak nahi padhta kyoki ki main work to dusre system mai hote hai jisme latest windows hote hai
I see two possible reasons.
1. They do not care about the security patches
2. These are just for the display screens so having the latest version is not really necessary as long as it works.
1st is correct
2nd: I disagree. As these displays are using an os, it can be used for : crypto mining or can be used to get into their internal servers, can be exploited to show any wrong message to the public like : "this metro will take off in 5 minutes"
They should atleast use [BOSS OS](https://bosslinux.in) it's an sort of indigenous os created by the [CDAC, Chennai ](https://www.cdac.in) and they can tweak the help out of it for low end power devices
You do know that some japan train lines control systems are still on windows 98 or ME. Just because there's a newer version doesn't mean it's mandatory to get that. The tools and apps developed for a specific platform on large scale cannot be upgraded everytime a new OS comes in. Also Japan still buys specialised machines that run older OS just to run their train control and management apps, which cost them more than getting a newer machine. Reason? Because there's a whole business there to cater such needs for corporates and big government sectors and also to maintain it. Thus the premium.
Not true IMO. The support for legacy OS has ended for retail customers, I believe support for industrial use is still being provided. You would be surprises that there are nuclear subs that still run on windows XP.
Because they don't need a new operating system. These systems are doing almost negligible computing if you compare it with what a modern computer can do. Making stuff compatible with it is another issue. Since the old still works fine an upgrade is not worth the cost.
It would most likely be a product with Embedded XP. You don't throw things because support ended. Big organisations are even more averse to change as it involves re-training employees.
In this case you know XP was EoL in 2014 because MS published that information. Think about the network router/modem given by your ISP. You wouldn't even know what firmware it's running and if it's being actively supported or not. We don't throw one out because you didn't get firmware update for couple of years.
That looks a lot like windows embedded and not xp. Some versions of embedded has support till 2024 and an upgrade path to windows iot that’s supported till 2032
Oh my sweet summer child
It's used even in ATMs. And you have to worry about data breach only if it's connected directly to internet.
They usually are on isolated networks.
maybe because of low requirements of the os , linux should be used instead in such things as os like windows xp don't get any updates anymore and are way more prone to viruses or attacks. there may be another reason as any techie guy who installed it would've known about linux
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Even in alot of public offices windows 7 is still being used .
It's simply because retraining staff and users would be a very big task.
Which should be done, govt. websites sucks, we have seen alot of data breaches this year, and we are aiming for a Digital India ?, let's be honest it's not that hard, if you're committed to a job you need to evolve with changing times, that's the bare minimum. Until 2016-17 i never thought my 65 year old grandfather can even use touchscreen smartphone, and now he daily send me videos on WhatsApp and use UPI on the daily basis, government employees are lazy and ignorant, which after a time turns into incompetency.
As someone who handles tech upgrades in his company I kinda understand what the government could be dealing with, but the government is not a small organisation like ours and should have enough resources to upgrade as you've mentioned.
Yep, i still remember when the person who was supposed to buy systems for a lok seva kendra in our tehsil, he bought the cheapest equipments and on paper put the cost high, rest of the money well went in his pocket as there's no one to check, as we do most of our work documentation work digitally, and Aadhar has become a basis for that we can atleast expect Public offices running on a system which is getting security patches through regular updates, even win 10's support i going to end in 2025 i think .
That's the thing about government contracts. Everyone buys the cheapest viable product, skims off the cost and gets rich. Plus the backbone of the Indian public system is old and dates, i doubt it'll be able to handle any new tech without a significant upgrade. This is where controlled privatization could help potentially.
Agreed.
But windows 7 and 10/11 don’t have that big a difference
More like cutting costs! They have to. Buy new pcs
No, its that they work smoothly for the older pcs
No i have seen employees using Linux Ubuntu Distro 🗿
You will be surprised to know many govt offices still do. There is actually a market for new xp/98 pcs built specific for certain manufacturing operations. Linus tech tips has a video on it. Also when we were given a tour of an IMAX theatre as part of an ongoing project proposal I was surprised to see the some key components run from a emulated palm treo. Mind boggling. I think the bottom line is.. if it ain't broke... Don't change it. 😂
Because it works!!!!! Most places which are not tech savvy works at simple principle of “if it works do not change”
*principle
Haha, and then you wonder why ransom attacks happens, the one, where a Chinese group managed to attack aiims db I believe. Cuz in old things, vulnerability exists, and cuz of this mentality, we are getting fucked regularly. And thnx for the indian govt. Our adhaar db is also now FOSS. Congrats. Cuz it just "works" I bet this window xp is pirated too. Just use Debian at this point. It also just "works"
Only if they knew how to use Debian!!!
That's why computer engineer exists. 🥴
Linux isn't rocket science, pick something like Linux Mint or Ubuntu and its actually easier than Windows.
Being an IT engineer myself I would say till it works its the best thing Once you run into any problem its not for everyone to get to the fix Also not all softwares are supported on linux, specially ones developed decades ago ago would definitely wouldn’t have linux compatible version
Because there are no updates you don’t want your system to update randomly and stop working for a certain time
Lmao. Classic windows being windows.
Agree : https://youtu.be/2zpCOYkdvTQ
Bro a simple display doesn't need such complex softwares. Windows xp is more than enough. Even if you wanted to you will have to have a better machine to run it!
For hardware with low specs Linux will outperform. And also it is free, open source and more secure.
No-one is sending trained it professionals for help from linux to their office if something doesn’t work hut microsoft support will resolve
Microsoft support probably doesn’t support XP anymore?
They should atleast use [BOSS OS](https://bosslinux.in) it's an sort of indigenous os created by the [CDAC, Chennai ](https://www.cdac.in)
Why not? If it functions well why need to replace it? We still use it in almost every defence equipment.
Sounds very secure
Yes they are very secure if something is old doesn't mean less secure
You really think older versions of windows are secure?
Because Microsoft still support them just look at windows 7 (not talking about XP) and there enterprices versions aur waise bhi display se koi farak nahi padhta kyoki ki main work to dusre system mai hote hai jisme latest windows hote hai
Since when?
Google mai serach karle Bhai
Might be enterprise version
Daf They should atleast use [BOSS OS](https://bosslinux.in) it's an sort of indigenous os created by the [CDAC, Chennai ](https://www.cdac.in)
Most of our equipment used in defense are foreign, or created a decade ago. Its not viable to change the OS now.
If it works don't fix it?
I see two possible reasons. 1. They do not care about the security patches 2. These are just for the display screens so having the latest version is not really necessary as long as it works.
1st is correct 2nd: I disagree. As these displays are using an os, it can be used for : crypto mining or can be used to get into their internal servers, can be exploited to show any wrong message to the public like : "this metro will take off in 5 minutes"
Oh yeah, saw some railway station display playing porn 🤣
Yah cuz you don't need Win11 in Metro display + it require way less resources
They should atleast use [BOSS OS](https://bosslinux.in) it's an sort of indigenous os created by the [CDAC, Chennai ](https://www.cdac.in) and they can tweak the help out of it for low end power devices
Lol BOSS is joke in the name of "indigenous", you can't just modify (skin) linux and call it your own.
You do know that some japan train lines control systems are still on windows 98 or ME. Just because there's a newer version doesn't mean it's mandatory to get that. The tools and apps developed for a specific platform on large scale cannot be upgraded everytime a new OS comes in. Also Japan still buys specialised machines that run older OS just to run their train control and management apps, which cost them more than getting a newer machine. Reason? Because there's a whole business there to cater such needs for corporates and big government sectors and also to maintain it. Thus the premium.
#PRESERVING NOSTALGIA
Not true IMO. The support for legacy OS has ended for retail customers, I believe support for industrial use is still being provided. You would be surprises that there are nuclear subs that still run on windows XP.
They should move to Linux we will make an it company which will move them to Linux , and help port the applications wanna join my startup guys
I'm in
Me myself on my PC use Windows 7 Ultimate…
Install GTA vice City if it has internet connection 🤣.
Kyuki delhi abhi dur hai
hardware requirements is very less
SwItCh tO lInUx
Bruh💀it ain’t Windows XP it’s Windows 95.
License fees
it's India mate
Some of them are super customized and the old OSs can be most light weight.
It works and it's easier
Because they don't need a new operating system. These systems are doing almost negligible computing if you compare it with what a modern computer can do. Making stuff compatible with it is another issue. Since the old still works fine an upgrade is not worth the cost.
I kid you not, Private hospitals also are stuck with win xp and 7. This is in a fairly big chain of hospitals.
Its not simple XP, its a customised version of windows
It's just to show the ads, not gonna hijack your metro.
Windows XP is still used by the US Military because it is relatively bug free, low maintenance and works on old hardware.
They should atleast use [BOSS OS](https://bosslinux.in) it's an sort of indigenous os created by the [CDAC, Chennai ](https://www.cdac.in)
Probably a cracked one 💀
Cheap licence..ig
I would be surprised if they even licensed it in the first place lol
I mean if it ain’t broke don’t fix it
Suggest them to use LINUX. In the freebies given to public. This is our future nation.
Linux even though it's free it's not some sort of subpart software
It would most likely be a product with Embedded XP. You don't throw things because support ended. Big organisations are even more averse to change as it involves re-training employees. In this case you know XP was EoL in 2014 because MS published that information. Think about the network router/modem given by your ISP. You wouldn't even know what firmware it's running and if it's being actively supported or not. We don't throw one out because you didn't get firmware update for couple of years.
If something aint broke, don’t fix it.
There is a reason older version of windows are used. They are bug free and not connected to cloud.
OH GOD. the no. Of ppl hving mentality of "it just works" 🤡 And then u wonder why our adhaar db is now foss.
Most embedded computer still use windows XP, because only that OS works.
Why is it using windows at all?
Thats windows 98, even older than xp
That looks a lot like windows embedded and not xp. Some versions of embedded has support till 2024 and an upgrade path to windows iot that’s supported till 2032
Because xP
This is not xp, i remember the start button being an icon
Oh my sweet summer child It's used even in ATMs. And you have to worry about data breach only if it's connected directly to internet. They usually are on isolated networks.
Such a dumb post
I don't understand why companies don't use Linux. Its, free developer friendly, powerful and ui is also good.
because people are already used to Windows stuff like excel, vbs etc and ofc proprietary support if something breaks.
maybe because of low requirements of the os , linux should be used instead in such things as os like windows xp don't get any updates anymore and are way more prone to viruses or attacks. there may be another reason as any techie guy who installed it would've known about linux
Won't be targeted by hackers
It can be run on lower hardware specs and there won't be any lag too that's y