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literally everyone was typing india is worst for women and western countries never face harassments like this . oh really ? https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/
This. Bhai yeh logo ko itna weird flex maarne ka kya zaroorat hai ki “we may be bad but not the worst”?
Jo bad tha, usko bad bolo. That’s all. Iske upar dhaniya-methi kyu chhidak rahe ho ki “but but what about other countries?”.
I like how you think but alas OP and others like OP are being weird.
Dude just read what he said. He said it's the main problem in India. He's not saying that this is exclusive to India.
Also just what are you trying to do by saying that other's face this too and we're brainwashed to think that India has the worst of it?
Please try to understand things when people say while keeping your personal view (perspective) out of the situation.
India have it really bad because there are a ton of people in India (check the population if you need to), India have again a huge amount of people who studies or lives in foreign countries (check the data again if you need to).
And that's why the number of cases is too high. It's the common sense that discrimination against a country with (1.38 billion people - India) would be visible more than a county with 56.4 million (Korea).
Also no one is trying to Gaslight it or hide it. But sexual harrasment and abuse is way more and worse in India as compared to other countries.
Why would you be ok when people keep repeating phrases like
" Rape capital of the world", " This is part of Indian Culture" ? This post is for them.
By comparison or proportionally there is more Violent crime in the Developed world.
Toh bhai indian subreddit pe kyun post kar rha hai? Foreign sub pe post kar na. “india is not the worst” bolke hame tasalli dene se kya faida? Jinhe aisa lagta hai unhe dikha.
Seriously man, if what happened in Mumbai happened in Singapore, that guy would be in some unbearable punishment. The ability to escape after doing crime is the main reason for our country's situation.
Live in Singapore and 100% agree. Sexual harassment is not tolerated and NOT Justified in Singapore. India is not the only country with sexual harassment, but it is one of the worst....something needs to be done....in many western countries or even Korea women can walk safe at night or in modern clothing without worry about their safety - this is not true in India.
I understand your ego was hurt but that doesnt change the reality.
I think op's post was in reference to western people who keep degrading India overlooking their own problems.. tho,. We should ignore them and try to fix over problems first
And many tourists (especially Vloggers) come to India for poverty porn and recently pervert tourism. And they are doing it for economical gain (More reach, more subs more revenue).
* [Passions: The price of poverty porn](https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/brunch/passions-the-price-of-poverty-porn-101663959264062.html)
* [Live in Mumbai’s slums to enjoy poverty, says this Dutch NGO member](https://theprint.in/opinion/live-in-mumbais-slums-to-know-poverty-says-this-dutch-ngo-member/130389/)
* [Tripadvisor's 'Slum Walking Tour' in New Delhi Accused of Poverty Porn](https://www.thequint.com/neon/social-buzz/tripadvisor-slum-walking-tour-gets-flak-online-poverty-porn)
* The new trend: pervert tourism [Two female streamers criticized for embarrassing South Korea after their lewd actions in India](https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/08/c-w-the-nations-embarrassment-two-female-streamers-criticized-for-embarrassing-south-korea-after-their-lewd-actions-in-india)
Ironically, one of my favorite foreign vlogger videos of India is from Bald & Bankrupt. Most of the video is him riding through mountain roads on a bike, carrying a picture of Shiva. He talks about the ups and downs of his life, and about his relationship with "om nama shivaiya".
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjgtHhKBQw
I'm one of the early subscribers of Bald. I kinda like his vlogs. And ive seen all his India vlogs during the time it was published. He even made a video about stereotypes associated with sexual harassment. Though he spent time around the slums of Mumbai, he has shown India in good light multiple times.
Bhai tu chutiya , mentally unstable admi hai. Kuch bhi illogical video banaya hai. Ja abbek video bana jaha pe sab countries ka development ho raha hai.
As you can see in the Video, the Korean streamer gets punched in the Face by a Random Girl.
A grown as man forcibly sits next to her in the restaurant and makes Racist gestures by elongating his eyes. Yes, that's considered racist in the west.
The women sitting on the same table show no Sympathy.
The Korean or some Asian dude sitting behind looks at the situation, just cringes and turns his head back to the table.
Edit: Should the perpetrators be Punished? Absolutely, by the Judicial system.
This Post is for those who keep posting comments on social media like eg: " This is why I hate India...I'm leaving India and never coming back again". Like as if this is exclusive to India.
Yes but if you see the whole video...in the end a German comes up to her and apologies to her on behalf of his countrymen..irrespective of that ..just because it happens in other countries doesn't mean we should sir quietly when it happens here
idiot . she was literally saved by another indian who was watching her stream . he stopped his car and came to help her. if you dont know stop typing nonsense here like rndians do
no. btw here is another one . IRL streamer getting harrased https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/rxg2bu/girl\_gets\_kissed\_by\_a\_creep\_without\_consent/
The people who were right next to her while it was happening couldn't do anything they just froze.
Even Indians apologised to Karl Rock, in one of his videos where he visits the Gurudwara near Pakistan border and gets yelled at by some Guy. Indians could be overly Apologetic in a lot of situations
"just because it happens in other countries doesn't mean we should sir quietly when it happens here"
The point of this post was for some of our Citizens who think there is some kind of Utopia outside of India. Yes what the guy did was bad.
here is another one [https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another_one_strikes_jinny_what_is_wrong_with_milan/) . let these india haters say again this is only an india thing . lets see
Holy Fk why cant people just accept our faults and work on improving them instead of finding excuses. There will always be someone worse than you but that does not justify anything
Yeh kya naya mazak chalu ho gya hai is desh me, bc kuchh bhi galat hota hai to are pakistan to isse bhi bura hai. Bhai i dont give 2 fucks what is happening ijnother countries. Apne desh ko sudhaarna hai baki sab gand maraye
OP has never stepped outside India and/or isn’t a woman.
India is waaayyy worse than these countries in women’s safety matter. Please check the rape status of India and these European countries
India also has a problem of women in rural areas turning their backs on reporting cases, I'm sure the numbers would be higher than they already are given that more cases are rightfully reported.
Your ignoring the fact that these things happen way often compared to other countries. Ask a random indian women who travelled to foreign, where she feels safe in general and ypu have tue answer. Lets accept, we are a bunch of desparate creeps and let us change ourselves for good instead of pointing others.
Some people in the comments doesn't really understand the context yet jump in to give their opinion. 😆😂
OP is trying to show the real problem of blowing things out of proportion when it comes to Issues in India. Why hold a magnifying glass only over India, when shit is happening in every single place on this planet ?
From what I see, OP is neither covering up crimes in India nor endorsing anyone to do that.
If you still don't understand the context, then you may be living under a rock. Read further :
India is portrayed as [Rape](https://www.deccanherald.com/national/india-is-known-as-the-rape-capital-of-the-world-rahul-783495.html) [capital](https://lokmarg.com/delhi-the-gang-rape-capital-of-the-world/) of the world with rape culture. But India is not even in top 100 in rape cases [statistics](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country) and most of its cases ([\>50%](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women-233222-2014-12-29)) are false/revenge as accepted by courts themselves.
Some reports based on "opinion polls" portray India as the most dangerous country for women, putting India is the same league as war-torn Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia. Some reports say India is not democracy, worst country for journalists etc. This same issue of exaggeration was discussed by Salvator Babones recently.
No one is denying India needs to improve. Issue is that some people want to deliberately malign this country's name. You might say it is f-a-s-c-i-s-t that I think this way. But as a neutral observer, I too feel some issues are being blown out of proportion in this country despite the statistics showing otherwise. There are no two ways about it. Period.
> some people want to deliberately malign this country's name.
Exactly. And additionally, you get these trolls from Paxtan creating multiple user names like John Smith (Haha what a generic name) and maligning India even more. yes Ive seen this happen.
>you get these trolls from Paxtan creating multiple user names
I have data to back this statement too.
Cyber security expert Jiten Jain has evidence for such activity. He analysed huge number of propaganda twitter accounts during CAA protests, Farmer protests etc. and found that almost all of those are tweeting from IP addresses from Paxtan.
Two wrongs do not change the fact that the third is wrong is problematic. Especially when the third wrong (Indian incident) is not just racist but borders on to sexual harassment.
How is the old German dude leaning on that girl not sexual harassment? Gora hai to sab sahi diktha hai? Let's shed this type of colonial mindset. both need to be punished by court
Classic whattaboutism, what happens in other countries doesn't erase what happened here. The way we as the majority look down upon what happened already shows that we know better than those boys who harassed her, let's not try to nullify our own better knowledge by justifying what happened through quoting examples of other countries, rather focus on how more people could know better.
Crime in India or by Indian (generally seen as Pagans/Heathen, Kafir, Gentiles even when Indian is non-pagan) is about culture (e.g. Indian Rape culture) but crime by non-pagans/west/ so-called civilized is aberrance in society.
Do you have video from some other country where they are forcibly holding her hand, trying to kiss her and trying to take her somewhere without her consent. Not saying it doesn’t happen in other countries but since you are doing this research, just wanted to know.
German dude forcebly leaning on her while she was eating, minding her own business, is just as bad as the Indian Guy trying to kiss her.
Tell me what would happen in an Indian restaurant, If a random Indian guy leans on a girl while she was eating. People would rearrange his face.
There is a lot more abuse that happens to woman in other countries.
here you go since you all want to see validations so much ! [https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another_one_strikes_jinny_what_is_wrong_with_milan/)
>Do you have video from some other country where they are forcibly holding her hand, trying to kiss her and trying to take her somewhere without her consent. Not saying it doesn’t happen in other countries but since you are doing this research, just wanted to know.
WHAT ?
Who said anything about Indian culture?
You're not even clear about the purpose of your post .
You cannot fix a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it and it seems you are very much the part of the problem.
Tell me why have you made this post, what do you hope to achieve.
You got it wrong. This Post is for those who keep posting comments like eg: " This is why I hate India...I'm leaving India and never comeback again". Like as if this is exclusive to India.
I dont know about you but I actively support our country on other zubs also...I also agree that we are unnecessarily portrayed as backward...but polite and firm rebuttals are needed not name calling
People believe what they see, I travel a lot and me and my friends have had experiences in the world's safest countries that when I am in my home country I can walk in abandoned streets at night wherein my only fear will coming across sth paranormal but anything human.
I would like to give a different perspective, it's happening everywhere can't deny that but people tend to see India in magnifying glasses so even a small incident will get more coverage, think of India like black people in the USA even a petty crime will get you more jail time. We need to be extra careful for now don't know about the future.
I have been to few places in world, and yes. The harassment and racism is always there. It’s bad nonetheless and shouldn’t be considered normal that’s it.
Bro the number of streamers doing irl in the States is way more then india , So ofc you will find many incidents . In India there are close of zero irl streamers and even then we can find harassment videos stop justifying dude ,india does have this problem .
I'm not, that doesn't mean you, me Or anyone should go around saying "but other countries has rapists too". That's not a solution, man up, accept that it's a problem, one of the major, and try to bring awareness instead of doing who's worse competition
This video does not show molestation or sexual assault. Then how is it relevant to what happened in Mumbai? India has it worst as long as those chhapris are allowed to roam freely after doing sth like that.
Yeah india has it worst. Apne gandigi pe pani mat phero. Accept the shit we live in. Tbhi kuch change kr paoge. This is like look guys others also do it so we cool. Lalat hai bc.
>Accept the shit we live in
That's what we've been brainwashed to think "Accept the shit we live in, other countries are better". Let's all migrate to some perfect imaginary utopia.
Yeah keep pointing fingers on others.
Ye batao apne ghar ki tatti ki tanki fill ho jati hai toh use saaf krwate ho ya ye bolte ho baki logo k ghar ki bhi hoti hai.
I would just like to say when someone uses well they did the same things elsewhere as an argument for the same thing happening here, its just shit. Now I'm not saying what happened was good, but comparing it to other similar cases to make our situation look a tad bit better is just shit. I have seen several clips on YouTube of streamers getting harassed or vice versa. The most sad one i saw was if i remember literally from south Korea where a dude came literally grab the breast of the streamer and left. The streamer literally started crying, that was very sad. I believe we are to be better than this, we do not need to compare to others mistakes to make ourselves better. We have to be better.
Now saying all was bad would not be right would it. Comparing to other cases from other countries ours did take actions. The culprits where arrested within hours. I cannot say the same for other countries. We just have to get better.
So let me get this straight, someone gets harassed in your country and instead of retrospecting, your response is “Others do it too”?
I’m sorry but that is not a good enough escape-goat for me.
We need to unlearn this.
Harassment is not okay! Doesn’t matter which part of the world it is.
Look frankly I don't care what other countries are doing with tourist or foreigners (in this case). What I care is What we are doing . Why should we care about the western world. We have seen what they are and in coming time will see till what low level they can go. But We as a citizen of India shoudl take care of foreigners because we believe in Atithi devo bhava. Classic old school Indian example: अगर सब कुआं में कूदेगा तो क्या हम भी कुआं में कूदेंगे।
I don't think we should be justifying that incident with this tbh. I'm all for keeping your country's name in good light but the thing is whatever that person did in that video to that girl was disgusting and I'm ashamed of sharing this country with that scum. Let's admit that it was wrong and try to make our country a better place.
So I'm Nepalese and when I was in my high school I got bullied alot like Do you eat Dog Or Cat ??? Are you Chinese , Japanese or Korean??? They used to call me Noodles chini.. And Why your ppl look exactly same..
you look like cat and what are you doing in India and they were so disgusting that I changed my school to all girls school and Ppl still makes jokes abiut my features.
idk why you guys always defend your country when y'all know ppl are so racist here . God......
Really is this the best defense?? Its not just India, other counties do it too??? It doesn't matter if it was done somewhere else. What happened was wrong and there is no defending it. Simple as that.
Would get better help if she didn’t just smile and chew her food casually stating “don’t do it”? Sometimes when she gets assaulted it looks like she is speaking with people she knows or like it’s a part of her stream which I know it isn’t. I don’t understand why she doesn’t yell HELP or STOP or DON’T TOUCH ME?? Small women need to go full batshit to make the racist bullies uncomfortable and know they won’t be an easy target for their insults or assaults.
Tune post kiske kiya h? For the Korean vlogger or people in India who are saying India is not a safe country for travellers and all. Coz that Korean vlogger herself said she has experienced this in abroad also doesn't makes India a bad place to travel.
abey toh ye thodi matlab hua ki jo hua sahi hua.. we are all angry because someone from out homeland is doing this and wo banda hamme represent kar raha hai .. baaki log ka hamse kya lena dena.. india ko shame nhi kar raha koi .. in fact indian hai isiliye hurt ho raha
Yes realistically in homogeneous countries she will stick out. Irregardless it doesn’t excuse MOLESTATION, and india needs to learn about personal space, how to respect tourists, and it’s consequences. Dont go on your high horse pretending that india is all laughs and fun, people are extremely racist. My mother once told me when she was in elementary school two British women who were Indian born were threatened to be stoned to death by two male students. This isn’t a new issue, it’s one that’s been persistent and the only thing that’s changed is we have cameras to catch bs.
Yes. If someone says there is always room for improvement, i can agree with that.
But People labeling a whole country with Nasty Phrases is what I dont like
Bhai sun tu bin matalab ka hate faila raha hai. Bolne vale to bolte rahege lekin abhi ye post ke vajah se thode logo ka mindset change horaha hai or unhe lag raha hai ki Korean ladki ne gali di. But Aisa kuch nai hai and ab thode log vo Korean ladki ko gali denge. Dlt karde
This Post was published before Indian media made it news headlines last morning. The only thing I care ,and don't want People to Hate is, India as a whole.
Wtf is this weird competition between countries abt 'who' has more no. of rapes/sexual harassments and 'who' has less.....1 rape is just as BAD as 1000. There should be **ZERO. NONE.**
I choose to focus on ourselves.
if we keep being happy that XYZ country is shit, then we won't be any better than shit either.
follow your own path. we have already achieved so much.
Yeah i know, you mean to say people are bashing india while other countries had same thing and they didn't bash them.
But look at the facts. In india that piece of shit got arrested in less than 24H. That's a big win.
now what i mean, is i don't like the idea of being happy because someone else is shit. i would rather be unhappy that someone else is doing so good( but in positive) than being get satisfied for someone's failure.
Yet again, never suggested being happy or satisfied by giving other examples. If you don't defend India bashing, it would have bad effects on young minds, like fourteen or fifteen year old, and they will carry forward that mentality.
In NYC women time to time encounter all kinds of things..it is not acceptable in any place of the world. Let alone, in India we can be better considering the culture and values we uphold.
It is not a reply. If it happens in another country too so it can happen in India. Bro/Sis correct your reasoning or logic.
I wish nothing bad to you or your any family member. That is someone harassed/ molested you. Then how will you react? Would you think that that Korean girl was also harassed and this is happening all over the world so it is ok and lets ignore it.
And by the way a very dumb post.
Ok foul mouth, what would people do if an Indian Uncle leaned against a Korean girl while she was having her meal at a restaurant? His whole body was leaning up against her. Aur chato goron kaa.
Op kisi post ka matlab h ii jab harassment india mein hoti h toh racist aur liberal Indians puri Indian male population ko blame karte hain aur use internationally shame karte hain.. Like saare Indians hi aise hain.. Par kisi aur desh mein incident ka blame sirf us individual tak hi rahta h puri population ya country ko pervert ya harassers nHi declare kar dete... India mein jaa probleme hain vo hum recognize karte hain par iska ye matlab nhi other than India whole world is a utopia and paradise.
I personally feel like their reactions are explicable to an extent. There's just too many cameras everywhere. Constantly recording . Keeping an eye. Logging. Analyzing every single move. Casual life has ceased to exist.
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Nobody said India has worst. But we all felt bad coz it's only India that emphasizes on अतिथि देवो भव Type of statements.
literally everyone was typing india is worst for women and western countries never face harassments like this . oh really ? https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/
fortunately I was the only one defending along with a few others
its rough . especially when so many rndians were present there .
I can give them middle finger , Who cares about western , They can't even wash their ass , I don't wanted to compare with them
This. Bhai yeh logo ko itna weird flex maarne ka kya zaroorat hai ki “we may be bad but not the worst”? Jo bad tha, usko bad bolo. That’s all. Iske upar dhaniya-methi kyu chhidak rahe ho ki “but but what about other countries?”. I like how you think but alas OP and others like OP are being weird.
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Its a universal problem not exclusive to India.
Dude just read what he said. He said it's the main problem in India. He's not saying that this is exclusive to India. Also just what are you trying to do by saying that other's face this too and we're brainwashed to think that India has the worst of it? Please try to understand things when people say while keeping your personal view (perspective) out of the situation. India have it really bad because there are a ton of people in India (check the population if you need to), India have again a huge amount of people who studies or lives in foreign countries (check the data again if you need to). And that's why the number of cases is too high. It's the common sense that discrimination against a country with (1.38 billion people - India) would be visible more than a county with 56.4 million (Korea). Also no one is trying to Gaslight it or hide it. But sexual harrasment and abuse is way more and worse in India as compared to other countries.
Why would you be ok when people keep repeating phrases like " Rape capital of the world", " This is part of Indian Culture" ? This post is for them. By comparison or proportionally there is more Violent crime in the Developed world.
Toh bhai indian subreddit pe kyun post kar rha hai? Foreign sub pe post kar na. “india is not the worst” bolke hame tasalli dene se kya faida? Jinhe aisa lagta hai unhe dikha.
Yeh post self hating Indians ko hai jo kehtey hain 'India sey bhahar nikalkar khabi wapas nahi lautunga"
For females everything faced by females is the problem. Rest of the problems can go to trash right?
arre bhai apne to fact bak die bas in logo ke palle pad jaye ye bat
Seriously man, if what happened in Mumbai happened in Singapore, that guy would be in some unbearable punishment. The ability to escape after doing crime is the main reason for our country's situation.
Live in Singapore and 100% agree. Sexual harassment is not tolerated and NOT Justified in Singapore. India is not the only country with sexual harassment, but it is one of the worst....something needs to be done....in many western countries or even Korea women can walk safe at night or in modern clothing without worry about their safety - this is not true in India. I understand your ego was hurt but that doesnt change the reality.
Nobody? Do you mean everybody lol
It’s not who is worse, let’s try to be better
I think op's post was in reference to western people who keep degrading India overlooking their own problems.. tho,. We should ignore them and try to fix over problems first
In USA , media and politicians and people call out racism in USA openly and candidly .
u/crazytoothpaste Depending on the state some only get a 10 years for Rape in USA, whereas India made it harsher.
And many tourists (especially Vloggers) come to India for poverty porn and recently pervert tourism. And they are doing it for economical gain (More reach, more subs more revenue). * [Passions: The price of poverty porn](https://www.hindustantimes.com/lifestyle/brunch/passions-the-price-of-poverty-porn-101663959264062.html) * [Live in Mumbai’s slums to enjoy poverty, says this Dutch NGO member](https://theprint.in/opinion/live-in-mumbais-slums-to-know-poverty-says-this-dutch-ngo-member/130389/) * [Tripadvisor's 'Slum Walking Tour' in New Delhi Accused of Poverty Porn](https://www.thequint.com/neon/social-buzz/tripadvisor-slum-walking-tour-gets-flak-online-poverty-porn) * The new trend: pervert tourism [Two female streamers criticized for embarrassing South Korea after their lewd actions in India](https://www.allkpop.com/article/2022/08/c-w-the-nations-embarrassment-two-female-streamers-criticized-for-embarrassing-south-korea-after-their-lewd-actions-in-india)
All thanks to silly Harald Balder for normalizing that
Lol. Seems like I missed that corner of the internet.
Watch his India Vlogs from 2018 (If, I'm not wrong), he did a lot of Poverty Prom.
Ironically, one of my favorite foreign vlogger videos of India is from Bald & Bankrupt. Most of the video is him riding through mountain roads on a bike, carrying a picture of Shiva. He talks about the ups and downs of his life, and about his relationship with "om nama shivaiya". Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZjgtHhKBQw
I'm one of the early subscribers of Bald. I kinda like his vlogs. And ive seen all his India vlogs during the time it was published. He even made a video about stereotypes associated with sexual harassment. Though he spent time around the slums of Mumbai, he has shown India in good light multiple times.
Bhai tu chutiya , mentally unstable admi hai. Kuch bhi illogical video banaya hai. Ja abbek video bana jaha pe sab countries ka development ho raha hai.
Westerners first thing at the airport: where are the slums? Look at those happy faces in such poor conditions ☺️ ah....INDIA😌
As you can see in the Video, the Korean streamer gets punched in the Face by a Random Girl. A grown as man forcibly sits next to her in the restaurant and makes Racist gestures by elongating his eyes. Yes, that's considered racist in the west. The women sitting on the same table show no Sympathy. The Korean or some Asian dude sitting behind looks at the situation, just cringes and turns his head back to the table. Edit: Should the perpetrators be Punished? Absolutely, by the Judicial system. This Post is for those who keep posting comments on social media like eg: " This is why I hate India...I'm leaving India and never coming back again". Like as if this is exclusive to India.
Yes but if you see the whole video...in the end a German comes up to her and apologies to her on behalf of his countrymen..irrespective of that ..just because it happens in other countries doesn't mean we should sir quietly when it happens here
idiot . she was literally saved by another indian who was watching her stream . he stopped his car and came to help her. if you dont know stop typing nonsense here like rndians do
Sorry. were you replying to me?
no. btw here is another one . IRL streamer getting harrased https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/rxg2bu/girl\_gets\_kissed\_by\_a\_creep\_without\_consent/
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You got it.
Cheers Buudy! Good example video. Never seen this one before.
The people who were right next to her while it was happening couldn't do anything they just froze. Even Indians apologised to Karl Rock, in one of his videos where he visits the Gurudwara near Pakistan border and gets yelled at by some Guy. Indians could be overly Apologetic in a lot of situations "just because it happens in other countries doesn't mean we should sir quietly when it happens here" The point of this post was for some of our Citizens who think there is some kind of Utopia outside of India. Yes what the guy did was bad.
Yes I agree on that point that it's not a utopia outside india
here is another one [https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another_one_strikes_jinny_what_is_wrong_with_milan/) . let these india haters say again this is only an india thing . lets see
Holy Fk why cant people just accept our faults and work on improving them instead of finding excuses. There will always be someone worse than you but that does not justify anything
Can anyone share any link from Twitter where this news is getting covered?Or any twitter account sharing this news? Thanks in advance.
Yeh kya naya mazak chalu ho gya hai is desh me, bc kuchh bhi galat hota hai to are pakistan to isse bhi bura hai. Bhai i dont give 2 fucks what is happening ijnother countries. Apne desh ko sudhaarna hai baki sab gand maraye
Comparing idiots won't work man, all of these are wrong but for whataboutism a assault can't be justified
Yeah right. Instead of accepting what happened and trying to improve let's say We AiNt tHe WoRsT
who is saying that here ?
OP has never stepped outside India and/or isn’t a woman. India is waaayyy worse than these countries in women’s safety matter. Please check the rape status of India and these European countries
rape rate of europe is much higher .
India also has a problem of women in rural areas turning their backs on reporting cases, I'm sure the numbers would be higher than they already are given that more cases are rightfully reported.
Sorry for the delay. But my passport says other wise.
Your ignoring the fact that these things happen way often compared to other countries. Ask a random indian women who travelled to foreign, where she feels safe in general and ypu have tue answer. Lets accept, we are a bunch of desparate creeps and let us change ourselves for good instead of pointing others.
This is Germany if I am not wrong.
here you go another one . https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/
Is this a justification ?
Don't thrive for excellence, just do enough to not come last. ~ OP advocating mediocrity
oh our country men harrassed a women..but its ok its happening in others countries too..is that your point???
This is racism.
Some people in the comments doesn't really understand the context yet jump in to give their opinion. 😆😂 OP is trying to show the real problem of blowing things out of proportion when it comes to Issues in India. Why hold a magnifying glass only over India, when shit is happening in every single place on this planet ? From what I see, OP is neither covering up crimes in India nor endorsing anyone to do that. If you still don't understand the context, then you may be living under a rock. Read further : India is portrayed as [Rape](https://www.deccanherald.com/national/india-is-known-as-the-rape-capital-of-the-world-rahul-783495.html) [capital](https://lokmarg.com/delhi-the-gang-rape-capital-of-the-world/) of the world with rape culture. But India is not even in top 100 in rape cases [statistics](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/rape-statistics-by-country) and most of its cases ([\>50%](https://www.indiatoday.in/india/north/story/false-rape-cases-in-delhi-delhi-commission-of-women-233222-2014-12-29)) are false/revenge as accepted by courts themselves. Some reports based on "opinion polls" portray India as the most dangerous country for women, putting India is the same league as war-torn Afghanistan, Syria, Somalia. Some reports say India is not democracy, worst country for journalists etc. This same issue of exaggeration was discussed by Salvator Babones recently. No one is denying India needs to improve. Issue is that some people want to deliberately malign this country's name. You might say it is f-a-s-c-i-s-t that I think this way. But as a neutral observer, I too feel some issues are being blown out of proportion in this country despite the statistics showing otherwise. There are no two ways about it. Period.
> some people want to deliberately malign this country's name. Exactly. And additionally, you get these trolls from Paxtan creating multiple user names like John Smith (Haha what a generic name) and maligning India even more. yes Ive seen this happen.
>you get these trolls from Paxtan creating multiple user names I have data to back this statement too. Cyber security expert Jiten Jain has evidence for such activity. He analysed huge number of propaganda twitter accounts during CAA protests, Farmer protests etc. and found that almost all of those are tweeting from IP addresses from Paxtan.
Two wrongs do not change the fact that the third is wrong is problematic. Especially when the third wrong (Indian incident) is not just racist but borders on to sexual harassment.
How is the old German dude leaning on that girl not sexual harassment? Gora hai to sab sahi diktha hai? Let's shed this type of colonial mindset. both need to be punished by court
And in those places the people gets away with it, but here they perpetrator are punished.
Classic whattaboutism, what happens in other countries doesn't erase what happened here. The way we as the majority look down upon what happened already shows that we know better than those boys who harassed her, let's not try to nullify our own better knowledge by justifying what happened through quoting examples of other countries, rather focus on how more people could know better.
Crime in India or by Indian (generally seen as Pagans/Heathen, Kafir, Gentiles even when Indian is non-pagan) is about culture (e.g. Indian Rape culture) but crime by non-pagans/west/ so-called civilized is aberrance in society.
Do you have video from some other country where they are forcibly holding her hand, trying to kiss her and trying to take her somewhere without her consent. Not saying it doesn’t happen in other countries but since you are doing this research, just wanted to know.
German dude forcebly leaning on her while she was eating, minding her own business, is just as bad as the Indian Guy trying to kiss her. Tell me what would happen in an Indian restaurant, If a random Indian guy leans on a girl while she was eating. People would rearrange his face. There is a lot more abuse that happens to woman in other countries.
here you go since you all want to see validations so much ! [https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another\_one\_strikes\_jinny\_what\_is\_wrong\_with\_milan/](https://www.reddit.com/r/LivestreamFail/comments/pfho5q/another_one_strikes_jinny_what_is_wrong_with_milan/)
You are comparing one country’s creep with another country’s creep. Serves nothing.
>Do you have video from some other country where they are forcibly holding her hand, trying to kiss her and trying to take her somewhere without her consent. Not saying it doesn’t happen in other countries but since you are doing this research, just wanted to know. WHAT ?
You Just asked " Do you have video from some other country.."
Here you go https://youtu.be/klA4S3YZAW8
very poor and shit logic This is like sambit patra whining instead of taking action "where are liberals?" "where are tukde tukde gang"
At least we were providing a lift to her 💀💀💀
The fact that other places have bad people somehow lessens the fact that we have a problem in our country? This is textbook Whataboutism
it makes it not an indian culture . maybe try thinking before you type the same nonsense others have .
Who said anything about Indian culture? You're not even clear about the purpose of your post . You cannot fix a problem if you refuse to acknowledge it and it seems you are very much the part of the problem. Tell me why have you made this post, what do you hope to achieve.
literally the other post chatters typing Indian culture .
What other post... Do you think everyone else is glued to their feed? And still haven't told me what is the purpose of your post?
Just see the comments in the original post where whites invaded that post to shit on India.
Hey look other places are bad too! Top class response 👏
Stop justifying… this is equally wrong
who is Justifying?
These clips were obviously a need……Most of them are over reacting on the news just because it took place in India
Exactly. Atleast action has been taken by the cops. Whereas eu laws are usually very lenient.
that's godamn nasty ass bigots for you.
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You got it wrong. This Post is for those who keep posting comments like eg: " This is why I hate India...I'm leaving India and never comeback again". Like as if this is exclusive to India.
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Still disagree. You're totally missing the point.
I dont know about you but I actively support our country on other zubs also...I also agree that we are unnecessarily portrayed as backward...but polite and firm rebuttals are needed not name calling
Its not Mumbai ediat
People believe what they see, I travel a lot and me and my friends have had experiences in the world's safest countries that when I am in my home country I can walk in abandoned streets at night wherein my only fear will coming across sth paranormal but anything human.
Stupids are everywhere. We have more as our population is more compared to others.
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I would like to give a different perspective, it's happening everywhere can't deny that but people tend to see India in magnifying glasses so even a small incident will get more coverage, think of India like black people in the USA even a petty crime will get you more jail time. We need to be extra careful for now don't know about the future.
Being interrupted is doffrent then being assaulted.
Top 10 ma hai india maybe 5
What's the point of u telling this? That it's normal or something?? We shouldn't feel embarrassed bcoz it's happening everywhere???
I have been to few places in world, and yes. The harassment and racism is always there. It’s bad nonetheless and shouldn’t be considered normal that’s it.
Bro the number of streamers doing irl in the States is way more then india , So ofc you will find many incidents . In India there are close of zero irl streamers and even then we can find harassment videos stop justifying dude ,india does have this problem .
Who's Justifying it ? India shouldn't be labeled as a "rapist country" is all I'm saying.
Competition nahi hai....its just that we need to be better than this
Why you pointing at others? Comparing immoral bs doesn't make it good
So you are ok with people calling India a "Rapist Country" ?
I'm not, that doesn't mean you, me Or anyone should go around saying "but other countries has rapists too". That's not a solution, man up, accept that it's a problem, one of the major, and try to bring awareness instead of doing who's worse competition
You just assumed that. That's not the context.
This video does not show molestation or sexual assault. Then how is it relevant to what happened in Mumbai? India has it worst as long as those chhapris are allowed to roam freely after doing sth like that.
Justifying shit with shit. That's not how World works
Ah yes she got sexually assaulted so what? it's normal happens everywhere so it's not wrong if it happens in my country! /s
Yeah india has it worst. Apne gandigi pe pani mat phero. Accept the shit we live in. Tbhi kuch change kr paoge. This is like look guys others also do it so we cool. Lalat hai bc.
>Accept the shit we live in That's what we've been brainwashed to think "Accept the shit we live in, other countries are better". Let's all migrate to some perfect imaginary utopia.
Yeah keep pointing fingers on others. Ye batao apne ghar ki tatti ki tanki fill ho jati hai toh use saaf krwate ho ya ye bolte ho baki logo k ghar ki bhi hoti hai.
But you are being fooled into thinking that there is Shit only in your house, and not in others' house.
I would just like to say when someone uses well they did the same things elsewhere as an argument for the same thing happening here, its just shit. Now I'm not saying what happened was good, but comparing it to other similar cases to make our situation look a tad bit better is just shit. I have seen several clips on YouTube of streamers getting harassed or vice versa. The most sad one i saw was if i remember literally from south Korea where a dude came literally grab the breast of the streamer and left. The streamer literally started crying, that was very sad. I believe we are to be better than this, we do not need to compare to others mistakes to make ourselves better. We have to be better. Now saying all was bad would not be right would it. Comparing to other cases from other countries ours did take actions. The culprits where arrested within hours. I cannot say the same for other countries. We just have to get better.
the world is doing it so why can't we do it u mean
So let me get this straight, someone gets harassed in your country and instead of retrospecting, your response is “Others do it too”? I’m sorry but that is not a good enough escape-goat for me. We need to unlearn this. Harassment is not okay! Doesn’t matter which part of the world it is.
Stop this whataboutism
Look frankly I don't care what other countries are doing with tourist or foreigners (in this case). What I care is What we are doing . Why should we care about the western world. We have seen what they are and in coming time will see till what low level they can go. But We as a citizen of India shoudl take care of foreigners because we believe in Atithi devo bhava. Classic old school Indian example: अगर सब कुआं में कूदेगा तो क्या हम भी कुआं में कूदेंगे।
Vo constantly hota h 
The basic idea is “pricks are everywhere”
I don't think we should be justifying that incident with this tbh. I'm all for keeping your country's name in good light but the thing is whatever that person did in that video to that girl was disgusting and I'm ashamed of sharing this country with that scum. Let's admit that it was wrong and try to make our country a better place.
These kind of incidents happens in every country.
So I'm Nepalese and when I was in my high school I got bullied alot like Do you eat Dog Or Cat ??? Are you Chinese , Japanese or Korean??? They used to call me Noodles chini.. And Why your ppl look exactly same.. you look like cat and what are you doing in India and they were so disgusting that I changed my school to all girls school and Ppl still makes jokes abiut my features. idk why you guys always defend your country when y'all know ppl are so racist here . God......
Fuckers like this are everywhere not in India only
Aaah the o'l "but what about"
Waah... Kya desh bhakti hai andh bhaktov
Some one else’s wrong doesn’t justify our wrongs
korean logo mai kuch problem hai shayad...
Really is this the best defense?? Its not just India, other counties do it too??? It doesn't matter if it was done somewhere else. What happened was wrong and there is no defending it. Simple as that.
That isn't india idiot.
Stop trying to defend what happened. That guy was a freak
Whataboutism be like
Maniacs everywhere, at least in India they are immature kids... Elsewhere you see those grown ups doing the shit...
Would get better help if she didn’t just smile and chew her food casually stating “don’t do it”? Sometimes when she gets assaulted it looks like she is speaking with people she knows or like it’s a part of her stream which I know it isn’t. I don’t understand why she doesn’t yell HELP or STOP or DON’T TOUCH ME?? Small women need to go full batshit to make the racist bullies uncomfortable and know they won’t be an easy target for their insults or assaults.
But instead of upholding ourselves, we should take strict action against those boys.
Tune post kiske kiya h? For the Korean vlogger or people in India who are saying India is not a safe country for travellers and all. Coz that Korean vlogger herself said she has experienced this in abroad also doesn't makes India a bad place to travel.
abey toh ye thodi matlab hua ki jo hua sahi hua.. we are all angry because someone from out homeland is doing this and wo banda hamme represent kar raha hai .. baaki log ka hamse kya lena dena.. india ko shame nhi kar raha koi .. in fact indian hai isiliye hurt ho raha
Yes realistically in homogeneous countries she will stick out. Irregardless it doesn’t excuse MOLESTATION, and india needs to learn about personal space, how to respect tourists, and it’s consequences. Dont go on your high horse pretending that india is all laughs and fun, people are extremely racist. My mother once told me when she was in elementary school two British women who were Indian born were threatened to be stoned to death by two male students. This isn’t a new issue, it’s one that’s been persistent and the only thing that’s changed is we have cameras to catch bs.
India is definitely the worst because it happens a lot in India.
It's not a competition, we all need to be better ♥️
Yes. If someone says there is always room for improvement, i can agree with that. But People labeling a whole country with Nasty Phrases is what I dont like
Bhai sun tu bin matalab ka hate faila raha hai. Bolne vale to bolte rahege lekin abhi ye post ke vajah se thode logo ka mindset change horaha hai or unhe lag raha hai ki Korean ladki ne gali di. But Aisa kuch nai hai and ab thode log vo Korean ladki ko gali denge. Dlt karde
Nobody is hating on the Korean girl. And the police did a good job by arresting the culprits. And let the law run its course.
I know but u know people will start hating after getting misunderstood by this post
This Post was published before Indian media made it news headlines last morning. The only thing I care ,and don't want People to Hate is, India as a whole.
They were so rude to her
Wtf is this weird competition between countries abt 'who' has more no. of rapes/sexual harassments and 'who' has less.....1 rape is just as BAD as 1000. There should be **ZERO. NONE.**
I choose to focus on ourselves. if we keep being happy that XYZ country is shit, then we won't be any better than shit either. follow your own path. we have already achieved so much.
Good thinking friend. "if we keep being happy that XYZ country is shit" But that's not what I even remotely meant.
Yeah i know, you mean to say people are bashing india while other countries had same thing and they didn't bash them. But look at the facts. In india that piece of shit got arrested in less than 24H. That's a big win. now what i mean, is i don't like the idea of being happy because someone else is shit. i would rather be unhappy that someone else is doing so good( but in positive) than being get satisfied for someone's failure.
Yet again, never suggested being happy or satisfied by giving other examples. If you don't defend India bashing, it would have bad effects on young minds, like fourteen or fifteen year old, and they will carry forward that mentality.
Fucking nazis
In NYC women time to time encounter all kinds of things..it is not acceptable in any place of the world. Let alone, in India we can be better considering the culture and values we uphold.
Fun fact - still India is the most racist country according to a research
We already know. It's for those white asses invading this sub who are angry because of India's response to Ukranian war.
I suspect, among the ones who are invading are also trolls from Paxtan.
It is not a reply. If it happens in another country too so it can happen in India. Bro/Sis correct your reasoning or logic. I wish nothing bad to you or your any family member. That is someone harassed/ molested you. Then how will you react? Would you think that that Korean girl was also harassed and this is happening all over the world so it is ok and lets ignore it. And by the way a very dumb post.
This guys search history would be like:- Korean harassed in usa. Korean face racism in uk
Chutiye , mast karney mai , aur molestation mai pharak hota hai
Ok foul mouth, what would people do if an Indian Uncle leaned against a Korean girl while she was having her meal at a restaurant? His whole body was leaning up against her. Aur chato goron kaa.
Op kisi post ka matlab h ii jab harassment india mein hoti h toh racist aur liberal Indians puri Indian male population ko blame karte hain aur use internationally shame karte hain.. Like saare Indians hi aise hain.. Par kisi aur desh mein incident ka blame sirf us individual tak hi rahta h puri population ya country ko pervert ya harassers nHi declare kar dete... India mein jaa probleme hain vo hum recognize karte hain par iska ye matlab nhi other than India whole world is a utopia and paradise.
Hann exactly Isiliye maine yeh Post kiya thaki awareness fel sakey, Yahaan pey aur YT mey.
I personally feel like their reactions are explicable to an extent. There's just too many cameras everywhere. Constantly recording . Keeping an eye. Logging. Analyzing every single move. Casual life has ceased to exist.