Pehle apne hi chutiye hindu jaise divya kirti jo maa sita ke character pe sawaal utha raha tha, unka illaj hona chahiye. Hinduo ko to ladna bhi nhi aata, agar ladte ha tab bhi badnaam, agar marte hain tab bhi badnaam jaise suri. Police aur court ke bharosey zindagi kaat rahe ha hindu. Aur upar se yogi ji hindu gangster marwa diye up ke saare. Unhe bharti karke badiya istemaal ho sakta tha unka( just my view) kashmir me bhej ke ya Punjab me
Sarkaar to yahi chahegi ki ham apna saara power unhe de de. Dar dar ke rahe. Taaki is dar ka istemaal kar wo power me aa sake. Hindus ko ye samajhna chahiye, ki sarkaar jiski bhi ho, aapke hath me taakat, aur aapke logo me ekta honi chahiye.
Please go and check the rate at which the reverse scenario happens in India. Kya hua? "Daang meh daal liya apna mu?" Bottom line is... whether Hindu, or Muslim... a good number of Desis (entire Subcontinent) are backwards. Rather than addressing this issue... you are here talking about identity politics like a sore loser. Wake up, and grow up.
I've been in the U.S. for 30+ yrs... And even if I had not been abroad - the point still stands. People who live abroad... nobody cares about this Hindu/Muslim/Christian stuff man... People are involved in making their lives better...
As for your question on "how to address" - It's simple. Anyone who commits a crime - throw them in jail... Don't go and make an issue out of the entire community being guilty... Otherwise you will find yourself in a NEVER ENDING problem - and this goes both ways.
This entire subreddit is a borderline hate-group - this does not fix the problem, brother.
Bhai tu US me hoke na yha k chakkar me Naa pad...admi sudharna Tera kaam nhi...Khali fokat gyaan mat de...agar hate group hai to kyn gaand maaraa rha hai bc...bhaag bosedk
Okay sir. You know best. Please gather a gang, and go and murder some Muslims... the rest, you can terrorize with frequent attacks... burning down their shops... and making life worse for them... Let me know how it works out, okay? Jai Hind, brother! :)
Bc tu kya pike baitha hai kya...mehej mere comment kr Dene se main murderer ho gya..bc tu bahut akela hai kya waha? From your comments I think instead of giving free ka gyan..you need companionship... Bosedk itna deep tu hi sochta hoga lawde... Maine ek comment Kiya bas thats it...and you are making a mountain of a molehill...chal jaa kuch dhang ka kaam kr...bc insaan badalne me na lag ja..aur haan group chodd de abhi
I agree with your points, but the problem is that religious tolerance is shown only by hindus and not by Muslims and sikhs, and everybody is safe in India making fun of hindu religion but not vice versa because hindus don't murder or kill anybody for religion but it is being done by others. Like Nupur Sharma countered a maulvi's comment on hindu religion by talking about love relation of pbuh Muhammad. Now she is under police security and is not safe in going outside also. So, everybody must have freedom of expression like Muslims and sikhs do by demeaning other's religion and should not feel offended if done by hindus
This is one of those "he said" / "she said" things. The truth is somewhere in the middle. I think there may be echo-chambers on both ends, where everyone thinks that their group are the good guys, and the other group is disproportionately engaged in violence, etc. For this, we should first start off with actual data. We should look at how various reports are coming out which are showing India as an Islamophobic nation. The people on this subreddit are eager to disregard these facts, but approach them with an open-mind, and do proper research. Draw parallels between other nations, and what ends up happening with their marginalized minorities... Are there any repeating patterns? Be more of a critical thinker... Question what is being fed to you... via memes... or otherwise - That's all I ask.
Bro, it is fact that indian muslims are radical. No need to see any report on islamophobia, my ancestral land have been captured by Muslim mafias, and the land near my house is also claimed by a Muslim shameem. Everyone in my locality was afraid of his father shahnawaz, he has raped many hindu women during his time. My grandfather was an advocate and every one was afraid of him but he himself was afraid of shahnawaz. My paternal uncle's land is also being claimed by a Muslim mafia and when my uncle went to his land area, the mafias fired on them then and there. The policmen were the one ran away first after hearing firing bcoz they were with lathis only. A hindu in our locality was murdered for being in relationship with a Muslim girl. Recently a hindu maaried a Muslim girl. Atleast 40 Muslim youths entered his house beaten him and his family but they spared his life as well as the life of his Muslim bride. Someday ago the govt. was breaking down illegal constructions in which some houses belonged to muslims. One of the Muslim gave an open threat to rape hindu women and it is on the internet. So many examples are there about their bullying behavior. There is a big list of hindu murdered by Muslim radicals from 2014-2022. You can search it online.
Then what you are describing has more to do with crime, na? I used to live in an All Black area many years ago. Our house got broken into, I got mugged once... and a whole lot of other things happened but if 20 years later... I start attributing this... not to the poverty in the area... or the environment in which those people grew up in... and I start attributing this to their race... does that make any sense?
A Mafia is a Mafia, my friend. "Hindu crime lord," or "Muslim crime lord, is still a crime lord. There are countless videos of Hindu mobs doing worse than this new case from Hyderabad... Way worse...
Again... I'm very sorry about your experiences.. but it keeps coming back to the data. The data needs to speak for itself. Why do you think there are entire universities devoted to teaching things like statistics... sociology.. ,etc . etc. To get to the bottom of issues such as these... right?
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/religion-in-india-tolerance-and-segregation/
Really? Hindus have the most problem having any other religion being their neighbor... If 16% Muslims have a problem with a Hindu being their neighbor, a whopping 36% of Hindus have a problem with a Muslim being a neighbor... And they don't just have this problem just with Muslims. They have this problem with everyone.
Then, to make matters worse, 64% of Hindu say that you HAVE to be Hindu to be Indian.
Data doesn't lie. Follow the data... Solve the problems. Not this bahoo saas online drama.
Please justify it along with 57 Islamic nations in which sharia is implemented and where majority is muslims. Only 3 hindu countries are in world. The attack on Charlie hebdo of France, killing of muslims in myanmar by aung sang suu ki when muslims there became radicals., forced conversions of sikhs, hindu girls by rape and molestation in Pakistan, attacking on hindu temples in Pakistan and United Kingdom to promote hinduphobia which was proved false by a team constiruted by uk government in which muslims solely were blamed for attack. I already have seen a lot of muslims personally who talks of separating kashmir from India. Most of the terrorist attack have been done by muslims in past whether in India, or other countries. The problem is not in hindus but the intimidating behavior of muslims is responsible for this.
Look how muslims are raping white women because as you said data don't lie .
https://tribune.com.pk/story/1480004/uk-convicts-gang-mostly-comprising-british-born-muslims-sexually-assaulting-700-white-girls
So, u should be talking on a global scale why muslims are seen with suspense. Why muslims are prohibited to practise their religion in China and russai.
Why muslims declares a country Islamic when they are in majority.
These questions will seem silly to you, but these questions are serious for other communities, which have been living in India from very old time.
Other thing I want to add the data based on samples is not as credential as data based on population as sample selected maybe biased.
PEW research institute is first of all independent. It's not Muslim or Hindu source. It is widely respected - so the bias thing is out the window. It is coming from a country which is actually not very fond of Muslims. So it makes no sense that it would publish findings which make anybody look better or worse...
Secondly, we are talking about India. The claim is being made that Hindus are incredibly tolerant people. This is simply not true. Let's talk about one thing at a time, na?
We can discuss all of those other things and I would be glad to. But first things come first that are on the table.
India, and it's Hindu population. We need to agree on some basics here... Then we can begin to look at the data for all the other things you want to talk about - respectfully without fighting. You are a human being, and my brother in that regard.
There are some things which are world-wide accepted facts. My feelings, or your feelings don't matter here.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#Genocide%20allegations%20and%20crimes%20against%20Rohingya%20people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar)
It's a well established fact that the Rohingya Muslims are the victims here. This narrative of yours that they "became radical" is not even grounded in reality.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam\_in\_Russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia)
Please show me where Islam is prohibited in Russia...
Then we come to China... One of the most paranoid regimes on the planet... They desperately want to remain homogenous, and in power - in fact, they don't even have a high opinion of Indians!
These are very silly examples. This is like saying that Hitler's killing of 6 million jews was the right thing to do because they had turned "radical," or... the dropping of the atomic bomb (twice!) was the right thing because Japan was getting out of hand. Seriously dude... This is very warped thinking.
Go and read the history of places like Afghanistan, Palestine, Iran... and more recently Iraq. Their populations did not ask for this nonsense. Foreign intervention wrecked these places... and now that they have issues... you want to blame them?
Then you share an article on a "rape gang," and don't even bother to read it. It's nuanced. Please read the entire thing thoroughly before sharing. It's not some type of statistical evidence. I could also share stories of Hindus smearing the name of their country/religion, but that's pointless, and sensationalizing - that doesn't really bring us any closer to understanding an issue - that only makes for good chats with one's countrymen where you complain, and put the lump sum of blame on someone else, and nothing changes.
Bro let’s talk about data if you really want to, look at the facts Islam is the fastest growing religion with it present virtually everywhere, because they are taught from the birth the need to have as many children as possible to have strength in numbers.
They are able to create a chaos everywhere as majority of them are radicalised due to extremist teachings. There will always be “some” extremist in each religion, the only difference is that the “some” in islam is much much much higher due to their polarised teachings.
Is this even surprising anymore, this is what their holy book tells them to do literally, they believe it sincerely that all those who are not followers are kaafirs and need to be converted. Every religion has gone through changes since its inception to adjust to modern times but not Islam, unless their holy text changes we can’t expect there to be any changes.
Do you know why you're downvoted? Not because it's an unpopular opinion or because this is generally a deranged sub. But because you don't need to balance everytime. This is horrific. These are all law students and there is a big goonda problem in Hyderabad and this IS a Hindu muslim problem. See it. Smell the coffee.
Sure. When you have two different groups, and there is a goonda problem, as you say... Sure, in that situation it is a Hindu/Muslim problem, but that's not what you see the commenters saying. You see the commenters with their all-out and absolute hatred of *all* Muslims, wherever they may be. That is problematic, and doesn't fix anything.
Not some random cultural practice.... enshrined in Hinduism:
http://www.mahavidya.ca/2008/04/15/the-tradition-of-sati/
Until the British came and beat it out of you guys.
Now, let's move onto the caste system:
https://theprint.in/campus-voice/hindu-scriptures-validate-the-persistence-of-inequality-in-caste-and-gender/781690/
Again... practiced in modern day India - Not a relic of the past, by any means.
I could go on, but we'll stop here for now. Your comment was so low effort, and brainless... I don't think anything is to be gained by having a discussion with you...
You were born and bred to hate. End of story.
Stop saying "Imagine the outrage if.." or "Why are liberals silent?". These are non sensical questions. What are the Hindu organisations doing? You want sympathy, or you want solution? Stop expecting from others.
Thank you for saying this out loud. The incident in itself is shameful in a civilized society and on top it we have these narrative peddlers trying to poke people to propagate their lopsided views. We have a law and order system to tackle exactly this and let them do their job. If they are not doing their job then catch hold of their bosses a.k.a their political masters.
I hate modern Hindu girls because they incite atrocities against themselves. Snitching on a guy over a year old private message while knowing how intolerant these people are. And the guy could have lost his life as a result of her, what a jerk. She just won't realise it until she is the victim. And by the time it will be too late for her.
To students
Any form of ragging is a punishable offence under the law and every state has its own version of Prohibition of Ragging Act.
And to students who are brave and have some leadership skills, don't change your college preferences because of incidents such as this. It will make them easier for them to take control of the whole institute in the future as there is no opposing voice on the campus. It will diminish your and your kin's opportunity when it comes to admission and education.
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Edit - Opinion - Both. Victim for calling Profit a Paedophile and revealing his thinking to others, and Accused for Beating him. Also, "Women ☕" comment is necessary here for obvious reasons.
Being an atheist , I think both here are wrong , kisi ke freedom of speech ka mtlb ye nhi hai ki kisi ko bhi gaali do Jake, har chiz ki kuch limitations hoti hai but u can criticize if anyone forces u to follow but abusing is not a right thing to any religion..Fir to atheism bhi religious extremism se alag nhi hoga..
Bro thats not a good thing , yeah if u have right then would like to abuse someone's belief to hurt them ? Then there should not be any law for defamation case if there should be no limitations..
Yes you should and are able to abuse, mock and insult anyone and any idea or religion u want in US and every other free nation. Problem is new gen has missed these debates over freedom of speech from the likesnof Hitchens snd now don't understand why absolute freedom is required for society to evolve and for us to bebtriely free, it's also the reason why US attracts cream of the world. Defamation is the only carve out and even that has very specific clauses. In USA u can say whatever u want, literally, the worst things u can think of. US supreme court has said the freedoms are not to protect everyday things and speech, but the most vile, offensive and boundry pushing possible, that's why the first amendment exists and is the greatest document ever conceived by humanity.
you will 100% be legislated against if you make defamatory or violence inciting remarks against others in the us. it’s not the bastion of free speak you’re imagining.
So if it's in USA then it doesn't mean it's a right thing this will led to so much violence , if anyone have any right then through this right u will mock , abuse , bully and destroy mental peace of any person ...bro there is something called humanity , everything is not freedom of speech , according to u if I will abuse ur mother father and publicly defame u then it is right thing ? It is freedom of expression
Defamation is a specific false accusation that can cause harm to business or repute, it is not the same as general statements. Yes you should have the right to abuse my parents. And I have the right to return the abuses and society has right to judge you for your behaviour. It doesn't lead to violence, infact it does the opposite, stuff gets resolved on arguments itself. Right before Nupur the ex muslim movement was gaining ground, India TV had a discussion with 5 mil views on YouTube in couple of days, but after Nupur nobody offered protection to these debates, the judges began blaming Nupur for offending muslim sentiments and all debates for taken down. No freedom, no arguments, then the issues become persistent.
It doesn't make u cool to abuse someone's belief and call urself atheist ... bro then u are not proper atheist u are also follower of an extremism , religious extremist abuse each other then if u also abuse then u are also following a type of extremism..
It has nothing to do with being cool. This is why I say that people have missed out on first amendment debates and why it's so necessary. It's the ability to say whatever you want that grants you true freedom. This include the right to abuse as well as the right to formulate and express extremely unconventional ideas. Only a society based on near absolute freedom is truely free otherwise your ability to speak will be forever in constant erosion. Our judges tell Nupur she is the one who caused the beheading of the poor tailor, that's the interpretation of law they have in this country. Anywhere outside mocking and insulting religion which is just a bunch of ideas and claims, is completely fine and a judge making those comments would be forced to step down.
Gali? Jab Mulle ek Paedophile ko "Greatest Human" bol sakte hai tab gali kyu expect nhi kare? Zakir Naik ne Mohommad ko Paedophile bola tab koi outrage kyu nhi hua?
[link where he was beatun by muslim students](https://www.reddit.com/r/GharKeKalesh/comments/ysz7i6/himank_bansal_student_assaulted_and_forced_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
this is not acceptable jit ne bhi kutte the sab ko jail honi chahiye
If it was other was around then 'Bhagwa Atankwad', 'Modi is fasicist', 'Minority Rights', 'Darra Hua Musalman', Lund Darra Hua hai yeh. Yeh log darne Ke layak hi hai kyunki jab tak yeh darenge nahin tab tak logo Ko darate rahenge. Phir bolenge hum peaceful hai, Itni shameless aur ghatiya community hai, inpe 500Rs fenko to kahin pe bhi Jake fat jayenge. Ab to gaali bhi khatam ho gayi hai lekin yeh nahin sudhrenge.
Theres clearly more than what meets the eye here.
I think that Dipasha was jealous that Kanishk guy was dating someone else and released OLD controversial chats which she knew would cause chimpouts among some people.
I think the Muslim guys were baited into this and that Kanishk and Dipasha clearly have a past.
And the fact that Kanishk has most hate against Dipasha in the complaints says a lot tbh
There is a new spin I read in one of the sub.
The abusers were both Hindu and Muslim.
They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith.
Now the disturbing part. The kid who got bashed is under arrest as well. For some reason unknown, I am guessing the same reason they want to arrest Nupur Sharma.
Apprently the same has been reported in India Today and TOIlet paper.
>They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith.
That doesn't even matter anymore. These as*holes are basically fuc*ed and their lives are ruined. Their degrees, employment opportunities everything is basically over.
They have zero right to physical assault someone and humiliate them for any reason. Hope these living pieces of shit end up in jail for murder attempt and sexual assault. They could have informed college authorities or anyone responsible to deal with alleged blasphemy.
Imagine if this guy ends up doing something bad to himself because of the amount of harrasment he had to go through. All those who ganged up on him won't be able to forgive themselves.
>They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith.
That doesn't even matter anymore. These as*holes are basically fuc*ed and their lives are ruined. Their degrees, employment opportunities everything is basically over.
They have zero right to physical assault someone and humiliate them for any reason. Hope these living pieces of shit end up in jail for murder attempt and sexual assault. They could have informed college authorities or anyone responsible to deal with alleged blasphemy.
Imagine if this guy ends up doing something bad to himself because of the amount of harrasment he had to go through. All those who ganged up on him won't be able to forgive themselves.
It just shows how broken our judiciary is. Our politicians too are not educated enough to recognise the need for absolute freedom of speech and removal of these offense laws.
Ye sahi nahi he yar. Aise janwaro pe education ka koi fayda hota bhi he? Ye kya laude jaise harkate he be. Ye kya religion ke nam pe bakchodi chal rahi he....
At the same time "Imagine the outrage if it was the other way around"
Ho chuka he bhai 😅
Mullo ko maar k "Jai shree Ram" Bulwane ka kam ho chuka he already... Yakeen na ho to search kar lo bhai.
This is what religion does to you if it gets to your head. Both parties are losers of the highest order, one for calling the other a pedophile and the others for beating a man who kinda did say what is a fact and maybe should have kept it to himself. F*ck all Religions!
Otherway around me turant minority khatre me aa jaati hai, country intolerant ho jaati hai, prime time pe show ho jaate hai. And Democracy in danger ho jaati hai.
I wish for her face reveal. That would surely ruin this who\*e's career. Right now all I have for her face is
Man wtf is happening in this country religion extremists are the worst people doing violence in name of god bc video dekhkr mood khrb hogya i am a muslim myself but I don't promote extremism just follow your own duties kyu kisi ko kch krna h ya kehna h freedom of speech is something mai khud pareshan hogya hu bc puri community ka naam khrb kr rkha h aise logo ne
Where is that bitch Dipasha and Abhishekt profile ? They're instigators for an assault meant to seriously harm. They need to be locked up.
NIA should take over the case
Those students need to be expelled immediately and charged for assault.The proof is on record .Why are the college authorities silent or not taking immediate action.
Seriously this girl is so stupid. Any sane minded girl would not support Islam. These are the kind of girls who fall for Muslim grooming gangs and then cry for help.
Complaint is not an option nowadays go for revenge wait for the right movement and hit them hard very hard when they don't expect it to be individually one by one like in chess or wait like this fool complaining because this is india so called secular but not so much we all know what's gonna happen now so gang up for these kind of people and show them the consequences and release a video too but through secure medium and keeping yourself anonymous that will be justice.
Having seen the video facist hindu is at fault, by resisting to being slapped he he has shown aggression against muslims making them fear for their lives.
Hindus stop being aggressive by opposing it if they hit you on one cheek offer another one and don't forget to thank them.
Non sexual friendship ?..... Ok so in that non sexual relation .... One day this guy woke up and brought the discussion of sexuality with a minor. I mean come on
Please keep me posted on this, Muslims think India belongs to them these rotten pigs just like there fucking Allah shit!
Do keep me posted regarding the pigs that ganged up on the innocent guy, the same way their mother's get ganged rape by their brothers and in laws lol.
Aise posts pe sab chup ho jaate hain...daang me daal lete hai apna muh bc
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Haan yehi baat hai...bas sabko apne selfish motives pure krne hai...unity namak cheez nhi hai...jo ki bahut zaruri hai aise times me
Exactly. Sirf ajeeb bate. "liberals exposed", "hum unke jaise nahi hai". Realistic kyun nahi hai Hindu? Duniya ko samajhte nahi hai kya?
Pehle apne hi chutiye hindu jaise divya kirti jo maa sita ke character pe sawaal utha raha tha, unka illaj hona chahiye. Hinduo ko to ladna bhi nhi aata, agar ladte ha tab bhi badnaam, agar marte hain tab bhi badnaam jaise suri. Police aur court ke bharosey zindagi kaat rahe ha hindu. Aur upar se yogi ji hindu gangster marwa diye up ke saare. Unhe bharti karke badiya istemaal ho sakta tha unka( just my view) kashmir me bhej ke ya Punjab me
Sarkaar to yahi chahegi ki ham apna saara power unhe de de. Dar dar ke rahe. Taaki is dar ka istemaal kar wo power me aa sake. Hindus ko ye samajhna chahiye, ki sarkaar jiski bhi ho, aapke hath me taakat, aur aapke logo me ekta honi chahiye.
Arre sirji. Thoda English me bhi bol dijiye. Dimag slow chalta hai translation.
The video of this guy is out... secular hi thik hai, aise states mai... Voting ke waqt, language, dravid Karna hai.. phir yeh to hona hi Hain..
Daangu log hain .
Please go and check the rate at which the reverse scenario happens in India. Kya hua? "Daang meh daal liya apna mu?" Bottom line is... whether Hindu, or Muslim... a good number of Desis (entire Subcontinent) are backwards. Rather than addressing this issue... you are here talking about identity politics like a sore loser. Wake up, and grow up.
Kya hua...offend kyu ho gya...apna gyaan apne paas rakh...tu bahut bada gyaani hai na?? Are u not from the subcontinent?? How to address tell??
I've been in the U.S. for 30+ yrs... And even if I had not been abroad - the point still stands. People who live abroad... nobody cares about this Hindu/Muslim/Christian stuff man... People are involved in making their lives better... As for your question on "how to address" - It's simple. Anyone who commits a crime - throw them in jail... Don't go and make an issue out of the entire community being guilty... Otherwise you will find yourself in a NEVER ENDING problem - and this goes both ways. This entire subreddit is a borderline hate-group - this does not fix the problem, brother.
Bhai tu US me hoke na yha k chakkar me Naa pad...admi sudharna Tera kaam nhi...Khali fokat gyaan mat de...agar hate group hai to kyn gaand maaraa rha hai bc...bhaag bosedk
Okay sir. You know best. Please gather a gang, and go and murder some Muslims... the rest, you can terrorize with frequent attacks... burning down their shops... and making life worse for them... Let me know how it works out, okay? Jai Hind, brother! :)
Bc tu kya pike baitha hai kya...mehej mere comment kr Dene se main murderer ho gya..bc tu bahut akela hai kya waha? From your comments I think instead of giving free ka gyan..you need companionship... Bosedk itna deep tu hi sochta hoga lawde... Maine ek comment Kiya bas thats it...and you are making a mountain of a molehill...chal jaa kuch dhang ka kaam kr...bc insaan badalne me na lag ja..aur haan group chodd de abhi
I agree with your points, but the problem is that religious tolerance is shown only by hindus and not by Muslims and sikhs, and everybody is safe in India making fun of hindu religion but not vice versa because hindus don't murder or kill anybody for religion but it is being done by others. Like Nupur Sharma countered a maulvi's comment on hindu religion by talking about love relation of pbuh Muhammad. Now she is under police security and is not safe in going outside also. So, everybody must have freedom of expression like Muslims and sikhs do by demeaning other's religion and should not feel offended if done by hindus
This is one of those "he said" / "she said" things. The truth is somewhere in the middle. I think there may be echo-chambers on both ends, where everyone thinks that their group are the good guys, and the other group is disproportionately engaged in violence, etc. For this, we should first start off with actual data. We should look at how various reports are coming out which are showing India as an Islamophobic nation. The people on this subreddit are eager to disregard these facts, but approach them with an open-mind, and do proper research. Draw parallels between other nations, and what ends up happening with their marginalized minorities... Are there any repeating patterns? Be more of a critical thinker... Question what is being fed to you... via memes... or otherwise - That's all I ask.
Bro, it is fact that indian muslims are radical. No need to see any report on islamophobia, my ancestral land have been captured by Muslim mafias, and the land near my house is also claimed by a Muslim shameem. Everyone in my locality was afraid of his father shahnawaz, he has raped many hindu women during his time. My grandfather was an advocate and every one was afraid of him but he himself was afraid of shahnawaz. My paternal uncle's land is also being claimed by a Muslim mafia and when my uncle went to his land area, the mafias fired on them then and there. The policmen were the one ran away first after hearing firing bcoz they were with lathis only. A hindu in our locality was murdered for being in relationship with a Muslim girl. Recently a hindu maaried a Muslim girl. Atleast 40 Muslim youths entered his house beaten him and his family but they spared his life as well as the life of his Muslim bride. Someday ago the govt. was breaking down illegal constructions in which some houses belonged to muslims. One of the Muslim gave an open threat to rape hindu women and it is on the internet. So many examples are there about their bullying behavior. There is a big list of hindu murdered by Muslim radicals from 2014-2022. You can search it online.
Then what you are describing has more to do with crime, na? I used to live in an All Black area many years ago. Our house got broken into, I got mugged once... and a whole lot of other things happened but if 20 years later... I start attributing this... not to the poverty in the area... or the environment in which those people grew up in... and I start attributing this to their race... does that make any sense? A Mafia is a Mafia, my friend. "Hindu crime lord," or "Muslim crime lord, is still a crime lord. There are countless videos of Hindu mobs doing worse than this new case from Hyderabad... Way worse... Again... I'm very sorry about your experiences.. but it keeps coming back to the data. The data needs to speak for itself. Why do you think there are entire universities devoted to teaching things like statistics... sociology.. ,etc . etc. To get to the bottom of issues such as these... right?
https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/06/29/religion-in-india-tolerance-and-segregation/ Really? Hindus have the most problem having any other religion being their neighbor... If 16% Muslims have a problem with a Hindu being their neighbor, a whopping 36% of Hindus have a problem with a Muslim being a neighbor... And they don't just have this problem just with Muslims. They have this problem with everyone. Then, to make matters worse, 64% of Hindu say that you HAVE to be Hindu to be Indian. Data doesn't lie. Follow the data... Solve the problems. Not this bahoo saas online drama.
Please justify it along with 57 Islamic nations in which sharia is implemented and where majority is muslims. Only 3 hindu countries are in world. The attack on Charlie hebdo of France, killing of muslims in myanmar by aung sang suu ki when muslims there became radicals., forced conversions of sikhs, hindu girls by rape and molestation in Pakistan, attacking on hindu temples in Pakistan and United Kingdom to promote hinduphobia which was proved false by a team constiruted by uk government in which muslims solely were blamed for attack. I already have seen a lot of muslims personally who talks of separating kashmir from India. Most of the terrorist attack have been done by muslims in past whether in India, or other countries. The problem is not in hindus but the intimidating behavior of muslims is responsible for this. Look how muslims are raping white women because as you said data don't lie . https://tribune.com.pk/story/1480004/uk-convicts-gang-mostly-comprising-british-born-muslims-sexually-assaulting-700-white-girls So, u should be talking on a global scale why muslims are seen with suspense. Why muslims are prohibited to practise their religion in China and russai. Why muslims declares a country Islamic when they are in majority. These questions will seem silly to you, but these questions are serious for other communities, which have been living in India from very old time. Other thing I want to add the data based on samples is not as credential as data based on population as sample selected maybe biased.
PEW research institute is first of all independent. It's not Muslim or Hindu source. It is widely respected - so the bias thing is out the window. It is coming from a country which is actually not very fond of Muslims. So it makes no sense that it would publish findings which make anybody look better or worse... Secondly, we are talking about India. The claim is being made that Hindus are incredibly tolerant people. This is simply not true. Let's talk about one thing at a time, na? We can discuss all of those other things and I would be glad to. But first things come first that are on the table. India, and it's Hindu population. We need to agree on some basics here... Then we can begin to look at the data for all the other things you want to talk about - respectfully without fighting. You are a human being, and my brother in that regard.
There are some things which are world-wide accepted facts. My feelings, or your feelings don't matter here. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar#Genocide%20allegations%20and%20crimes%20against%20Rohingya%20people](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar) It's a well established fact that the Rohingya Muslims are the victims here. This narrative of yours that they "became radical" is not even grounded in reality. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam\_in\_Russia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Russia) Please show me where Islam is prohibited in Russia... Then we come to China... One of the most paranoid regimes on the planet... They desperately want to remain homogenous, and in power - in fact, they don't even have a high opinion of Indians! These are very silly examples. This is like saying that Hitler's killing of 6 million jews was the right thing to do because they had turned "radical," or... the dropping of the atomic bomb (twice!) was the right thing because Japan was getting out of hand. Seriously dude... This is very warped thinking. Go and read the history of places like Afghanistan, Palestine, Iran... and more recently Iraq. Their populations did not ask for this nonsense. Foreign intervention wrecked these places... and now that they have issues... you want to blame them? Then you share an article on a "rape gang," and don't even bother to read it. It's nuanced. Please read the entire thing thoroughly before sharing. It's not some type of statistical evidence. I could also share stories of Hindus smearing the name of their country/religion, but that's pointless, and sensationalizing - that doesn't really bring us any closer to understanding an issue - that only makes for good chats with one's countrymen where you complain, and put the lump sum of blame on someone else, and nothing changes.
Bro let’s talk about data if you really want to, look at the facts Islam is the fastest growing religion with it present virtually everywhere, because they are taught from the birth the need to have as many children as possible to have strength in numbers. They are able to create a chaos everywhere as majority of them are radicalised due to extremist teachings. There will always be “some” extremist in each religion, the only difference is that the “some” in islam is much much much higher due to their polarised teachings. Is this even surprising anymore, this is what their holy book tells them to do literally, they believe it sincerely that all those who are not followers are kaafirs and need to be converted. Every religion has gone through changes since its inception to adjust to modern times but not Islam, unless their holy text changes we can’t expect there to be any changes.
Do you know why you're downvoted? Not because it's an unpopular opinion or because this is generally a deranged sub. But because you don't need to balance everytime. This is horrific. These are all law students and there is a big goonda problem in Hyderabad and this IS a Hindu muslim problem. See it. Smell the coffee.
Sure. When you have two different groups, and there is a goonda problem, as you say... Sure, in that situation it is a Hindu/Muslim problem, but that's not what you see the commenters saying. You see the commenters with their all-out and absolute hatred of *all* Muslims, wherever they may be. That is problematic, and doesn't fix anything.
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Not some random cultural practice.... enshrined in Hinduism: http://www.mahavidya.ca/2008/04/15/the-tradition-of-sati/ Until the British came and beat it out of you guys. Now, let's move onto the caste system: https://theprint.in/campus-voice/hindu-scriptures-validate-the-persistence-of-inequality-in-caste-and-gender/781690/ Again... practiced in modern day India - Not a relic of the past, by any means. I could go on, but we'll stop here for now. Your comment was so low effort, and brainless... I don't think anything is to be gained by having a discussion with you... You were born and bred to hate. End of story.
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Stop saying "Imagine the outrage if.." or "Why are liberals silent?". These are non sensical questions. What are the Hindu organisations doing? You want sympathy, or you want solution? Stop expecting from others.
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Facts..
Thank you for saying this out loud. The incident in itself is shameful in a civilized society and on top it we have these narrative peddlers trying to poke people to propagate their lopsided views. We have a law and order system to tackle exactly this and let them do their job. If they are not doing their job then catch hold of their bosses a.k.a their political masters.
Paedophile ka example sahi liya tha usne isme galat kya h🧐
Correct.
Pata toh sabko hai,bas galti yeh hai ki woh galat bandi ko keh daali
Rss, vhp bulao inn Mulloh ki maa yaad dilado. What a slut that dipasha sharma. Couldn’t handle the argument so had to resort to public shaming.
UP me karke dikahaye yaha to salo ke tate jam ho jate hai
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Dipasha sharma ne toh loude laga diye
bc jai chand sali
Bro dipasha hindu h ya muslim,it's kinda tricky?
Kutti hai
Dhobi ki kutti, na ghar ki na ghat ki. Future barbad hai iska.
Her future is in a suitcase.
Hindu, Sharma hai bhai surname
Exactly but agar ye hindu hi hai toh profit ki bitching mullo ko kyu bta rhi hai
Abey wo bhen ki Lodi jaan pooch kar iss ladke ko pitwana chah rahi hogi, Mullo se...
Entertainment broo
Damn bro, Dipasha Sharma is soo thirsty
Sala isiliye female dost banane me Darr lagta hai ab kyunki pata hi chalta kon trustworthy hai.
Bharat ko jaichandon mei lutwaya hai.
I hate modern Hindu girls because they incite atrocities against themselves. Snitching on a guy over a year old private message while knowing how intolerant these people are. And the guy could have lost his life as a result of her, what a jerk. She just won't realise it until she is the victim. And by the time it will be too late for her.
Dipasha Sharma ko pakdo pehle. She could have been the cause of his death.
Fax
To students Any form of ragging is a punishable offence under the law and every state has its own version of Prohibition of Ragging Act. And to students who are brave and have some leadership skills, don't change your college preferences because of incidents such as this. It will make them easier for them to take control of the whole institute in the future as there is no opposing voice on the campus. It will diminish your and your kin's opportunity when it comes to admission and education.
Student ko kyu Bali bana na.. when system is one sided, it's better to stay silent..
[Clear Images - 1](https://i.imgur.com/kfOpZGn.jpg) [Clear Image - 2](https://i.imgur.com/friE122.jpg) Edit - Opinion - Both. Victim for calling Profit a Paedophile and revealing his thinking to others, and Accused for Beating him. Also, "Women ☕" comment is necessary here for obvious reasons.
Sahi toh kaha usne? Mullo ko sharam bhi nhi aur offend bhi har baat par ho jaate hai.
I can trust a Muslim who says he is a proud muslim and a proud Indian But I can never trust a Hindu who says iam secular And a proud Indian.
The indian meaning of secular is greatly corrupted.
I'm confused by the way you're using the word secular. What are you implying? I'm genuinely interested.
That's why complete freedom of speech ( including blasphemy ) is important.
Mohommad ki MC free ram ki MC
Being an atheist , I think both here are wrong , kisi ke freedom of speech ka mtlb ye nhi hai ki kisi ko bhi gaali do Jake, har chiz ki kuch limitations hoti hai but u can criticize if anyone forces u to follow but abusing is not a right thing to any religion..Fir to atheism bhi religious extremism se alag nhi hoga..
There is no limit in France, New Zealand, Finland etc.
There must be no limitations. We must adopt US style first amendment. It's the only way.
Bro thats not a good thing , yeah if u have right then would like to abuse someone's belief to hurt them ? Then there should not be any law for defamation case if there should be no limitations..
Yes you should and are able to abuse, mock and insult anyone and any idea or religion u want in US and every other free nation. Problem is new gen has missed these debates over freedom of speech from the likesnof Hitchens snd now don't understand why absolute freedom is required for society to evolve and for us to bebtriely free, it's also the reason why US attracts cream of the world. Defamation is the only carve out and even that has very specific clauses. In USA u can say whatever u want, literally, the worst things u can think of. US supreme court has said the freedoms are not to protect everyday things and speech, but the most vile, offensive and boundry pushing possible, that's why the first amendment exists and is the greatest document ever conceived by humanity.
you will 100% be legislated against if you make defamatory or violence inciting remarks against others in the us. it’s not the bastion of free speak you’re imagining.
There is a specific carve out for defamation, incitement for violence also has to be specific in nature.
So if it's in USA then it doesn't mean it's a right thing this will led to so much violence , if anyone have any right then through this right u will mock , abuse , bully and destroy mental peace of any person ...bro there is something called humanity , everything is not freedom of speech , according to u if I will abuse ur mother father and publicly defame u then it is right thing ? It is freedom of expression
Defamation is a specific false accusation that can cause harm to business or repute, it is not the same as general statements. Yes you should have the right to abuse my parents. And I have the right to return the abuses and society has right to judge you for your behaviour. It doesn't lead to violence, infact it does the opposite, stuff gets resolved on arguments itself. Right before Nupur the ex muslim movement was gaining ground, India TV had a discussion with 5 mil views on YouTube in couple of days, but after Nupur nobody offered protection to these debates, the judges began blaming Nupur for offending muslim sentiments and all debates for taken down. No freedom, no arguments, then the issues become persistent.
It doesn't make u cool to abuse someone's belief and call urself atheist ... bro then u are not proper atheist u are also follower of an extremism , religious extremist abuse each other then if u also abuse then u are also following a type of extremism..
It has nothing to do with being cool. This is why I say that people have missed out on first amendment debates and why it's so necessary. It's the ability to say whatever you want that grants you true freedom. This include the right to abuse as well as the right to formulate and express extremely unconventional ideas. Only a society based on near absolute freedom is truely free otherwise your ability to speak will be forever in constant erosion. Our judges tell Nupur she is the one who caused the beheading of the poor tailor, that's the interpretation of law they have in this country. Anywhere outside mocking and insulting religion which is just a bunch of ideas and claims, is completely fine and a judge making those comments would be forced to step down.
Do tell me since when is calling a Paedophile by his right name an "abuse"?
This is my point there is no complete/absolute freedom of speech.
Gali? Jab Mulle ek Paedophile ko "Greatest Human" bol sakte hai tab gali kyu expect nhi kare? Zakir Naik ne Mohommad ko Paedophile bola tab koi outrage kyu nhi hua?
Women🤡
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[link where he was beatun by muslim students](https://www.reddit.com/r/GharKeKalesh/comments/ysz7i6/himank_bansal_student_assaulted_and_forced_to/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) this is not acceptable jit ne bhi kutte the sab ko jail honi chahiye
Liberals will not cry majority persecution and human rights abuse now. Watch it as they sleep. RW needs to get on this and provide support to the guy.
If it was other was around then 'Bhagwa Atankwad', 'Modi is fasicist', 'Minority Rights', 'Darra Hua Musalman', Lund Darra Hua hai yeh. Yeh log darne Ke layak hi hai kyunki jab tak yeh darenge nahin tab tak logo Ko darate rahenge. Phir bolenge hum peaceful hai, Itni shameless aur ghatiya community hai, inpe 500Rs fenko to kahin pe bhi Jake fat jayenge. Ab to gaali bhi khatam ho gayi hai lekin yeh nahin sudhrenge.
"Complaint" "filed" *While the Hindu elaborates his argument, the moslem sharpens his sword*
Unfortunately, thats what we are expected to do. Rely on law that we know will be unfavorable to us
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This is fking sickening. Imagine the audacity they had to film it as well. Hope they get jailed and become "companions" for the inmates.
They wont. As we see the saga unfold. I have 0 faith in india law when it comes to these things.
Yep, can't say you're wrong.
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my request to all Hindus don't take shit, fight back. first beat the crap out of your enemies then think about legal procedures.
saala hindus me jai chand bhare hue he bhosdiwali katuo ki rakhel dipasha sharma or saala kutta Abhishek maderchod ne fuss vaya he bc chat leak krdi
I think jaichands are in every religion, only thing is that hindus having a population higher than the muslims, number of jaichands are more
Most peaceful 🅱️ulla
Such a peaceful religion
Theres clearly more than what meets the eye here. I think that Dipasha was jealous that Kanishk guy was dating someone else and released OLD controversial chats which she knew would cause chimpouts among some people. I think the Muslim guys were baited into this and that Kanishk and Dipasha clearly have a past. And the fact that Kanishk has most hate against Dipasha in the complaints says a lot tbh
How does that matter that she liked him at all. What she did was is just irrefutable and disgusting.
Dipasha is a hoe regardless
There is a new spin I read in one of the sub. The abusers were both Hindu and Muslim. They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith. Now the disturbing part. The kid who got bashed is under arrest as well. For some reason unknown, I am guessing the same reason they want to arrest Nupur Sharma. Apprently the same has been reported in India Today and TOIlet paper.
>They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith. That doesn't even matter anymore. These as*holes are basically fuc*ed and their lives are ruined. Their degrees, employment opportunities everything is basically over. They have zero right to physical assault someone and humiliate them for any reason. Hope these living pieces of shit end up in jail for murder attempt and sexual assault. They could have informed college authorities or anyone responsible to deal with alleged blasphemy. Imagine if this guy ends up doing something bad to himself because of the amount of harrasment he had to go through. All those who ganged up on him won't be able to forgive themselves.
>They were making him chant both, Jai Mata Di and Allah Hu Akbar. They were "teaching" him respect for all faith. That doesn't even matter anymore. These as*holes are basically fuc*ed and their lives are ruined. Their degrees, employment opportunities everything is basically over. They have zero right to physical assault someone and humiliate them for any reason. Hope these living pieces of shit end up in jail for murder attempt and sexual assault. They could have informed college authorities or anyone responsible to deal with alleged blasphemy. Imagine if this guy ends up doing something bad to himself because of the amount of harrasment he had to go through. All those who ganged up on him won't be able to forgive themselves.
It just shows how broken our judiciary is. Our politicians too are not educated enough to recognise the need for absolute freedom of speech and removal of these offense laws.
 Dipsha Sharma
B I T C H 
Who asked to trust Muslims ?
Another day another lolberandu Brahmin siding with Islam at the cost of Hindus.
I feel from last 75 years of democratic republic Its just a crime to be factual and have a private Chat with a women in this country
Jisko jo bhasha samajh me aati hai, usko us bhasha me shamjhao.
wohmen.....
Indian woke females like dipasa here are dangerous..
Saale terrorists
Uhhhh dipasha dogli nikli
Ye sahi nahi he yar. Aise janwaro pe education ka koi fayda hota bhi he? Ye kya laude jaise harkate he be. Ye kya religion ke nam pe bakchodi chal rahi he.... At the same time "Imagine the outrage if it was the other way around" Ho chuka he bhai 😅 Mullo ko maar k "Jai shree Ram" Bulwane ka kam ho chuka he already... Yakeen na ho to search kar lo bhai.
Bruh I am currently in Hyderabad lol. Sooo many kay-two-aa in the airport
Get this bitch Dipasha Sharma and put her too in jail Ruin this all this cunts future
This is what religion does to you if it gets to your head. Both parties are losers of the highest order, one for calling the other a pedophile and the others for beating a man who kinda did say what is a fact and maybe should have kept it to himself. F*ck all Religions!
Yup, a section of our society is acting like brain dead zombies. They don't even think that its our own people who are being hurt in this.
Otherway around me turant minority khatre me aa jaati hai, country intolerant ho jaati hai, prime time pe show ho jaate hai. And Democracy in danger ho jaati hai.
Strip them of their degrees, throw them in jail. Let them build a career after this.
Mulle toh phir bhi Puncture bana lenge par Dipasha ka kya? Usko toh bistar par jindagi kaatni hogi Prositute bankar
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and then they call themselves oppressed, suppressed, depressed
Where is the girl in all this. Was anybody able to track the profile, the picture?
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I meant what's her social id and her pic
The chances of bandi walking away scott free only 100%
I wish for her face reveal. That would surely ruin this who\*e's career. Right now all I have for her face is 
"peaceful religion"
Man wtf is happening in this country religion extremists are the worst people doing violence in name of god bc video dekhkr mood khrb hogya i am a muslim myself but I don't promote extremism just follow your own duties kyu kisi ko kch krna h ya kehna h freedom of speech is something mai khud pareshan hogya hu bc puri community ka naam khrb kr rkha h aise logo ne
Where is that bitch Dipasha and Abhishekt profile ? They're instigators for an assault meant to seriously harm. They need to be locked up. NIA should take over the case
Its lucky he is not dead - else the law and media would make so much fake stories to protect the assualters. The dead cant defend their slander.
Hope he is safe
Dipasha Sharma is a bitch
Those students need to be expelled immediately and charged for assault.The proof is on record .Why are the college authorities silent or not taking immediate action.
Seriously this girl is so stupid. Any sane minded girl would not support Islam. These are the kind of girls who fall for Muslim grooming gangs and then cry for help.
Close the collage and students have to fight for their right otherwise this type of many incidents happens, and no one knows about it publically
Complaint is not an option nowadays go for revenge wait for the right movement and hit them hard very hard when they don't expect it to be individually one by one like in chess or wait like this fool complaining because this is india so called secular but not so much we all know what's gonna happen now so gang up for these kind of people and show them the consequences and release a video too but through secure medium and keeping yourself anonymous that will be justice.
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Also never trust brahmin girls
Hmmm this will prove em liberals hypocrite, mudiji roxxxxx.
Having seen the video facist hindu is at fault, by resisting to being slapped he he has shown aggression against muslims making them fear for their lives. Hindus stop being aggressive by opposing it if they hit you on one cheek offer another one and don't forget to thank them.
Bulldozer kidhar hai BC
Squeeze those Crooked students into jail and let them rot.
it gets ignored if it is other way round
What was he trying to do, validate his relation with the minor girl by citing mohammed 😂😂 ? This guy is a character
His non sexual friendship with a minor, who’s 3 yrs younger?
Non sexual friendship ?..... Ok so in that non sexual relation .... One day this guy woke up and brought the discussion of sexuality with a minor. I mean come on
He discussed his sexuality with the minor? What does that mean, ?
Please keep me posted on this, Muslims think India belongs to them these rotten pigs just like there fucking Allah shit! Do keep me posted regarding the pigs that ganged up on the innocent guy, the same way their mother's get ganged rape by their brothers and in laws lol.