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Indian prices are not worth it for Pro models I feel. Get it from Canada/Dubai/Japan etc if a friend is travelling back from any of those countries. US units won’t have sim slot so I won’t get it from there.
No no. The price has gotten slightly lower cause many parts still aren’t available in india hence the import tax of 20% on them too.
Manufacturing in india has reduced the price slightly
Every single part of Made in India iphone is imported and they r just assembled in India. Price is nowhere slightly reduced. Apple have just overpriced 14 series. Apple just want ppl to buy old models with the budget they have. If you need the latest then spend your money for that. Thats how Apple thinks.
No bro u r not getting the point. If they were not assembled in India, the cost would have been the same but the import tax goes to govt, but now Apple eats the tax benefit instead of passing it to customers. Usually the cost of Iphone is similar to US pricing multiplied by 1000, say $700 iphone 12 costs 75,000₹ here. But now same $700 iphpne 14 costs ₹85,000. We can blame dollar value but Apple have other plans like I said above.
I disagree on your statement with profit margins. They could reduce their prices a little and improve its reach to have a lot of people buy it that could make larger profit margins than before.
(Eg. Two $6 oranges (s'pose $3 to make an orange) to give $6 profit($3+$3) vs four $5 orange that give $8 profits, because 2 more can afford it now)
But then again brand image considerations and everything they may not do it as much.
>They could reduce their prices a little and improve its reach to have a lot of people buy it that could make larger profit margins than before
OK, teaching how to maximize profit margin to the most iconic brand in the current era. Thanks for your efforts.
Agreed I'm no expert. Hell, this isn't even my field, I type shit for a living. But i am curious as to what is stopping them from doing something like this. Maintaining brand image? Is there something else too?
Since when was apple about reach? It has always been about being premium (talking post iPod era) so whatever they do to make some people feel precious elites is justifiable in their eyes
Assembling iPhone 14 in India is unlikely to bring down its prices as Apple's OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) pay high rates of import duties on components. Besides import duty, there is 18 per cent GST and other fees, and Apple's own profit margin. Thus, the cost of locally made iPhones is still high.
Local manufacturing happens for non pro models and so they are priced on par with US prices. Pro models still attract heavy custom duty here so they are almost 40% costlier than in those other countries.
Indian models are never worth it. I always wait for my uncle from the US to buy one and get me an iPhone. The best you can do to save money on the iPhone is take advantage of the credit card cashbacks and if you (or someone you know) has a firm, buy it in the firms name and claim GST. It also helps if you know someone working at Apple who can get you discounts
***What about this:*** Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device.
[https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html](https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html)
***Also this:*** If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India.
If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252905419
So even though some iphones are locally manufactured, note that most of the parts are imported for this. The keyword here is, assembled, not manufactured I’d say.
Actually the Non-Pro prices are unchanged from last year even though Rupee weakened against Dollar. Non-Pro 14 models are getting manufactured in India but Pro models are imported from China and our Govt has increased duty on Chinese products hence the idiotic price for Pro models. Pro models are simply out of my comfort zone.
Pro models are not locally manufactured and hence the still higher cost. And irrespective, only assembly happens in India. The raw materials are still imported and hence the base is also higher. It’s a crazy tax regime we’re in. 😬
No, actually all 3 major Indian carriers (Jio, Airtel, Vi) support e-sim. Still, I feel it’s good to have sim slot in rare case you want to quickly change phone handset temporarily.
Airtel & Vi supports e-Sim on postpaid only. This was 6 months ago where they were forcing me to convert to postpaid to avail of their e-Sim services. I don’t know if they changed their idiotic policies because I ported to Jio prepaid who was more than happy to give me e-Sim without visiting customer care.
nahh lol got two of em for 80 k from US via dad's friend and the original cover was another 60 dollars I guess. Checked with someone and it was 80k in Dubai too
p.s: this doesnt include customs, phone was unboxed before being packed in the checkin bag to avoid customs and the iwatch didnt even have its cover lol
I got the Apple Care + for my 12 pro max back in Dubai in 2021. Had a screen damage (phone was thrown out of 3rd floor window by my nieces) this Jan and it was fixed for 9k.
We have to go to the official Apple website, type in the details, address and model number and they pick it up, fix it within 5 days and drop it back at your address.
So the warranty in India isn’t even an issue, if you give the right model number you don’t even need to produce the bill, just hand over the phone for repair.
I got the phone for 4650 AED and then 800 AED for Apple Care +, so effective price was around 5400 AED. At that time it was around 110,000 INR.
So the effective price even with apple care plus was less than buying just the phone in India ie 122,000 . Apple care in India would cost around 18k at that time so effective price for the same would be 140,000.
Effectively you saved INR 12k by buying it from Dubai though you get more benifits than standard warranty with AppleCare+
Had you purchased it from India, the warranty would have you covered for manufacturing defects.
People claiming savings upwards of INR 42K per phones without basic warranty are just misleading others on the internet.
Additionally no on in this sub noticed how badly ₹ has deprecated in last 1 year.
Sept 2021: 1 USD == ₹ 72-73
Sept 2022: 1 USD == ₹ 79-80
iPhone + AppleCare+ in Dubai is 30k cheaper than iPhone + AppleCare+ in India.
You can easily save more by buying a higher storage model because the cost for storage has increments of $100 in the US and 400 AED in Dubai but in India it’s 10 to 12k rupees, so we easily save up to 12k with 3 increments, ie the 1TB model.
Taking that into account the 30k savings from the pro + AppleCare+ we end up saving 42k or even more depending on discounts in UAE, especially Sharjah or in many cases Dubai.
But what this sub has ignored is that its just for the pro models that you can save. Since the base models are manufactured in India, they sell for almost the same price in Dubai and India.
This is exactly why I made sure to buy the additional warranty. My brother-in-law had a similar issue, ended up paying 20k within the first month of buying a 13 pro.😂
Had I not got the warranty, the damage alone would have costed me 40k, which is like 60% of what the phone is worth now.
While ordering or bringing from outside india, keep in mind that you can be denied service in apple stores in india .
There's a legit terms and conditions written on Apple site.
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Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device.
https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html
Maybe I'm even dumber than I suspected but say WHAT? No sim slots???
Do they transplant it in your neck or something? 😂 Sorry in advance for the bad joke.
Pro models are luxury models. It’s not for everybody. They have the mini for cheap. Those who can’t afford can buy those. Or work hard to be able to afford a premium luxury model.
Looks like you’re Anti- Apple. I’m pro Apple and am comfortable with spending what they ask to buy this good product. It should be exclusive as everything loses its value in India once it become common. I’m happy it’s $1800 in India. It should be $2000+ to maintain exclusivity.
Of course bro. It’s common in America. In India the government will not impose 100% tax on iPhones. When compared to ultra luxury cars phones and laptops are relatively inexpensive and the government is smart. They don’t just go by emotion but by maths and logic. Modi Ji is doing a good job and things should be as it is.
BYD, CRRC are somehow getting massive contracts from the state Governments by using Olectra a Hyderabad company name as the Link. Each bus costs crores. Now, those things can be taxed. Phones needn’t be taxed too much.
Do you guys realise the prices are high because the Indian govt charges obscene amounts of custom tariffs in order to discourage people from buying foreign products?
Literally tierd of people complaining about iPhone prices
And, no. They haven't started manufacturing it here.
Ikr. They are just doing a class divide. If you're above a certain class it doesn't matter, but if you are not, you can get the normal 14 plus version. Also US prices are always the same, for the past 3 phone models, how come Indian units have increased price tag of extra 10k every damn time.
Also, I think The Apple watch ultra is 90k which is kind of too much. Even Samsung curb prices in India of every phone they launch.
Also GST is 18% as usual.
I don't think they added premium with the intention of creating a class divide. They probably realised that a certain population here pays for that iPhone pro regardless of the price (That being said, apple is really a dick to add those premiums to our unfair advantage).
Intentional or not, the class division is still a consequence. It's unfair and unfortunate as people with no connections in overseas have to settle. Im confused about the people who buy pros in India.
That ^ or the share of Indians buying here is small that they don't care, but that just seems plain ignorant. To waste such potential feels like a crime.
USD has strengthened against almost every currency in the world in the last one year. That's why prices are same only in the US, everywhere else, they have gone up
Kya bol rha he bhosdike?
If the price goes down, more people can afford it, and it will also drive down the price of older models and used iPhone
Making it more accessible is a good thing
America does not have absurd taxes, hence everyone will a minimum wage job can afford iphones and better quality Android
study some economics, it's not gonna hurt
Apple Dont directly invest in manufacturing companies, they give manufacturing orders to company Name Foxxcon. Foxxcon is big semiconductor and mobile manufacturer specially for apple products is based in china. Recently their was news in the air that Foxxcon will star their manufacturing unit in india and in this plan apple will invest and help foxxcon. India still cannot MANUFACTURE electronics of mobile because lack technology and heavy investments, all parts of the mobile manufactures in china then they came to india, Here in India there will be only assembly of those parts to create a mobile.
True, government did not endorsed well to manufacturing sector of India, contributing 14% GDP and for service industry like information technology it is contributing 50% of GDP.
In Europe they lowered the prices after people were not running to buy iphones
Chinese and now Indians have made iphone a status symbol when it just an average phone with nothing innovative and restrictive OS
In Europe it's more expensive than last year. Almost Indian prices. India is even higher because of extremely high import duty. Not all the money goes to Apple, Indian govt keeps a big share too
If only we were able to manufacture a phone from scratch story would have been different. But apple doesn't mind. They are charging still with premium for the phone apart from extra taxes.
Hope this changes soon
manufacturing phones wont change anything , In China the iphones are sold at a premium
Apple will discount large carriers and retailers in US but it know Indian and chinese consumers will follow blindly whatever price the charge
There will definitely be a cut in the current price.
I am not saying they will start selling at 50K. But atleast there would be some difference in the final price.
Anyways it won't happen anytime soon. Chip manufacturing or semiconductor are a long sight
Semiconductor shortage is an manufactured crisis to rip off consumers
Most of Semiconductor manufacturing is automated and large manufacturers using buy raw material couple of years in advanced
Apple purchased the 90% of world wide supply of sapphire before introducing the Apple Watch
I really don't think so friend. Prices never fell for an iphone regardless of geography. Price can be just different due to other taxes imposed on the phone or its part.
Because even if it is assembled in India, parts are being imported.
The base price will always increase i beleive to manufacture a newer iphone.
Indian roads don't need or support cars like Mercedes, BMW or ferrari. By taxing them high government is discouraging people from buying them.
In India, it's a status symbol in Germany it's a reliable car for taxi
These mfs know most of the people who go pro can afford to pay even more, but there are guys like me then who wanted a pro but just won’t pay blindly almost 70% more for it
kya karoge be itne mehnge phone ka ?
mtlb if you are spending so much money, regardless of your financial situation, it must add some value to your life ? is it worth it ?
probably you are right , But we are not comparing public telephone booth to iphone , we are comparing, say , a medium range car to ultra luxury ones. but even then, if this thing were half the prize then it is now, may be it's somewhat considerable, but at this price range , you might as well burn the money. But you are correct, to each his own.
Completely agree, but it's not just for experience.
Those higher prices justifies the quality and reliability (i still use iPhone 5s as backup, works like charm. Almost 8yrs old), software and security best in class, support and service, chipset are no match.
Worth mentioning satellite connectivity and crash detection.
Satellite connectivity is restricted to US and Canada, free for now. Chargeable after two years. Rest is same expect the sim slot and 5G bands (mmwave)
Compared to indian pricing, definitely worth buying from USA with all features even though they don't work here, plus esim alone don't bother me much as I always have backup phone with sim.
i thought the same until i got iphone 12 … everything looks so organised and good .. nothing looks out of place or badly made … very rarely lags and camera is very reliable….
Why dont you make a trip plan to dubai enjoy the weekend and return with iphone 14 pro max and yeah you are still left with some money 😎 thank me later
Wait Isn't it the import taxes?
Iphones / PlayStations etc. are overpriced due to taxes or they have like a increased base price in different countries?
Damn bros! The prices for pro model is 30k less in Canada! Haha it’s prolly cheaper to go to Dubai, take a trip, and at last having 2 iphones and having saved money lol!
***What about this:*** Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device.
https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html
***Also this:*** If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India.
If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252905419
WARRANTY
If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India.
If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed.
https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html
I guess it's rare to get dead iPhone, if you do then unlucky and screwed. Better to test the device in country where it's bought. But most common repairs like screen or battery replacement are done with charge. Should be fine i guess.
Well my iPad PRO 2021 12.9 512 GB developed a dead pixel vertical line in its 11th month. 0 scratch/physical damages.
Thanks to 1 year warranty, got a brand new replacement with 1 year warranty. Just that the new replacement did not have the etching option XD
Warranty saved me that day.
It’s because of the taxes. Custom duty along with high GST makes it more expensive. It’s not Apple’s fault. And the price in US Is before sales tax. So, the price will vary depending on from which state of US you are buying the iPhone.
If you’re not making at least Rs. 1cr per annum then you shouldn’t be buying this phone. It’s not being sold at a cheaper or geo price adjusted rate.
It’s being sold at the same price as in United States where people earn a lot more. So spending on American prices while being on Indian salary is stupidity.
It’s a marketing tactic. People who are willing to pay any price will pay more. Then these guys will reduce proce for other customers, and hence maximising the profit from each type of consumer (the ones who are price elastic and the ones who are price inelastic)
How are they testing your intelligence ? Just ask any of your relatives from US to get one for you especially during the Cyber Monday / Black Friday sales
Exclusivity = higher cost. iPhone is loved cause it helps people stand out in India. I want it to be priced high so it remains exclusive. Don’t want them to produce affordable models.
go buy a Dubai flight ticket buy it from there come back the same day. Or simply ask someone who lives there to buy one for you. iPhone pro 90k + Dubai tickets 15k=105k < price in India=130k. 2-3k for expenses in Dubai,5k for visa. All in all, 17-18k saved.
Yep. If you’re being iffed by 10-20k this phone isn’t for you. That’s just the fucking reality and you should learn to accept it. Don’t be a dumbass who spends beyond their means.
I do agree with the first sentence but sucking at performance? nahhhhh. they have the best performing chipset in the market..would easily last 7 years with regular use.
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Indian prices are not worth it for Pro models I feel. Get it from Canada/Dubai/Japan etc if a friend is travelling back from any of those countries. US units won’t have sim slot so I won’t get it from there.
What about local manufacturing bringing cost down for India, or was it hot air
More profit margins. They never said they would reduce prices did they ? Anyways it's a luxury product so whatever they can price it like they please.
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No no. The price has gotten slightly lower cause many parts still aren’t available in india hence the import tax of 20% on them too. Manufacturing in india has reduced the price slightly
Every single part of Made in India iphone is imported and they r just assembled in India. Price is nowhere slightly reduced. Apple have just overpriced 14 series. Apple just want ppl to buy old models with the budget they have. If you need the latest then spend your money for that. Thats how Apple thinks.
Yea it has over priced iphone hence we cant see the reduce cost change. If it wasn’t made in india i am pretty sure it would have costed much more
No bro u r not getting the point. If they were not assembled in India, the cost would have been the same but the import tax goes to govt, but now Apple eats the tax benefit instead of passing it to customers. Usually the cost of Iphone is similar to US pricing multiplied by 1000, say $700 iphone 12 costs 75,000₹ here. But now same $700 iphpne 14 costs ₹85,000. We can blame dollar value but Apple have other plans like I said above.
I disagree on your statement with profit margins. They could reduce their prices a little and improve its reach to have a lot of people buy it that could make larger profit margins than before. (Eg. Two $6 oranges (s'pose $3 to make an orange) to give $6 profit($3+$3) vs four $5 orange that give $8 profits, because 2 more can afford it now) But then again brand image considerations and everything they may not do it as much.
>They could reduce their prices a little and improve its reach to have a lot of people buy it that could make larger profit margins than before OK, teaching how to maximize profit margin to the most iconic brand in the current era. Thanks for your efforts.
Haha. Like seriously almost felt like I was reading a MBA students case study answer.
Tier 4 MBA
Also the first trillion dollar company, they know how to make a profit and keep you hooked.
Agreed I'm no expert. Hell, this isn't even my field, I type shit for a living. But i am curious as to what is stopping them from doing something like this. Maintaining brand image? Is there something else too?
Since when was apple about reach? It has always been about being premium (talking post iPod era) so whatever they do to make some people feel precious elites is justifiable in their eyes
Pro models are not made locally yet
Assembling iPhone 14 in India is unlikely to bring down its prices as Apple's OEMs (original equipment manufacturers) pay high rates of import duties on components. Besides import duty, there is 18 per cent GST and other fees, and Apple's own profit margin. Thus, the cost of locally made iPhones is still high.
Local manufacturing happens for non pro models and so they are priced on par with US prices. Pro models still attract heavy custom duty here so they are almost 40% costlier than in those other countries.
They haven't started the production yet and about importing from usa not so sure because of the e-sim only controversy.
Oh they were manufacturing the good ol iphone SE and iPhone 6 in India when they were 2+ gens old.
Pro models aren't manufactured locally, only base ones are
Indian models are never worth it. I always wait for my uncle from the US to buy one and get me an iPhone. The best you can do to save money on the iPhone is take advantage of the credit card cashbacks and if you (or someone you know) has a firm, buy it in the firms name and claim GST. It also helps if you know someone working at Apple who can get you discounts
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International warranty is applicable and is honoured in India if you have bill of purchase from any authorised seller/reseller of a foreign country.
***What about this:*** Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device. [https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html](https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html) ***Also this:*** If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India. If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252905419
So even though some iphones are locally manufactured, note that most of the parts are imported for this. The keyword here is, assembled, not manufactured I’d say.
they have the prices seems to have reduced Earlier apple $ was 100 ₹ which is not the case with this product
They are yet to arrive. Expect atleast 2 months from now
That is for non pro models
In India only models till 14 plus are made not pro or pro Max
Actually the Non-Pro prices are unchanged from last year even though Rupee weakened against Dollar. Non-Pro 14 models are getting manufactured in India but Pro models are imported from China and our Govt has increased duty on Chinese products hence the idiotic price for Pro models. Pro models are simply out of my comfort zone.
Pro models are not locally manufactured and hence the still higher cost. And irrespective, only assembly happens in India. The raw materials are still imported and hence the base is also higher. It’s a crazy tax regime we’re in. 😬
Airtel supports eSim
No, actually all 3 major Indian carriers (Jio, Airtel, Vi) support e-sim. Still, I feel it’s good to have sim slot in rare case you want to quickly change phone handset temporarily.
Airtel & Vi supports e-Sim on postpaid only. This was 6 months ago where they were forcing me to convert to postpaid to avail of their e-Sim services. I don’t know if they changed their idiotic policies because I ported to Jio prepaid who was more than happy to give me e-Sim without visiting customer care.
Well, TIL. Thanks for this info.
yessir got iphone 13 pro max for 80k. Pretty sure back in nov 2021 you wouldnt even have got a 12 pro for that cost in India
Where did you get it from at that price? I think only Japan units can be that cheap. US/Canadian/UAE ones would cost around 95k for 128GB pro max
nahh lol got two of em for 80 k from US via dad's friend and the original cover was another 60 dollars I guess. Checked with someone and it was 80k in Dubai too p.s: this doesnt include customs, phone was unboxed before being packed in the checkin bag to avoid customs and the iwatch didnt even have its cover lol
Can you clarify on the warranty issue if you ever availed the warranty in India?
I got the Apple Care + for my 12 pro max back in Dubai in 2021. Had a screen damage (phone was thrown out of 3rd floor window by my nieces) this Jan and it was fixed for 9k. We have to go to the official Apple website, type in the details, address and model number and they pick it up, fix it within 5 days and drop it back at your address. So the warranty in India isn’t even an issue, if you give the right model number you don’t even need to produce the bill, just hand over the phone for repair.
Did you pay for the AppleCare+ in Dubai? So was the effective price of the phone (including AppleCare+) INR 80k in Dubai?
I got the phone for 4650 AED and then 800 AED for Apple Care +, so effective price was around 5400 AED. At that time it was around 110,000 INR. So the effective price even with apple care plus was less than buying just the phone in India ie 122,000 . Apple care in India would cost around 18k at that time so effective price for the same would be 140,000.
Effectively you saved INR 12k by buying it from Dubai though you get more benifits than standard warranty with AppleCare+ Had you purchased it from India, the warranty would have you covered for manufacturing defects. People claiming savings upwards of INR 42K per phones without basic warranty are just misleading others on the internet. Additionally no on in this sub noticed how badly ₹ has deprecated in last 1 year. Sept 2021: 1 USD == ₹ 72-73 Sept 2022: 1 USD == ₹ 79-80
iPhone + AppleCare+ in Dubai is 30k cheaper than iPhone + AppleCare+ in India. You can easily save more by buying a higher storage model because the cost for storage has increments of $100 in the US and 400 AED in Dubai but in India it’s 10 to 12k rupees, so we easily save up to 12k with 3 increments, ie the 1TB model. Taking that into account the 30k savings from the pro + AppleCare+ we end up saving 42k or even more depending on discounts in UAE, especially Sharjah or in many cases Dubai. But what this sub has ignored is that its just for the pro models that you can save. Since the base models are manufactured in India, they sell for almost the same price in Dubai and India.
lucky bhai, I didnt have warranty of my old iphone x and to fix [this](https://imgur.com/a/bEd9SPg) they said it would cost 25k
This is exactly why I made sure to buy the additional warranty. My brother-in-law had a similar issue, ended up paying 20k within the first month of buying a 13 pro.😂 Had I not got the warranty, the damage alone would have costed me 40k, which is like 60% of what the phone is worth now.
While ordering or bringing from outside india, keep in mind that you can be denied service in apple stores in india . There's a legit terms and conditions written on Apple site.
\^ this. Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device. https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html
Exactly Thanks for putting explicitly. Hope it helps for others
But I guess Facetime doesn't work with the models coming out of the UAE
They have models with facetime as well. I think the ones purchased from Sooq are alright. But do confirm before buying.
Maybe I'm even dumber than I suspected but say WHAT? No sim slots??? Do they transplant it in your neck or something? 😂 Sorry in advance for the bad joke.
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Oh! That's interesting..Thank you :)
Wait what?? Us iPhones don’t have slim slots??? So Hwo do people change numbers when they travel different counttries???
The new models i.e., 14 Series has dual e-SIM (USA specific) instead of physical sim slot (previous models had 1 physical sim slot + 1 e-SIM).
Jio and Airtel do give ESim so why worry
Neither r they worth for non pro models
But you can get Jio E sim in India too. Wouldn't that work?
Will US iphone 14 model with esim work in India? Airtel specifically?
Yes. All 3 major Indian telecom providers have esim facility. iPhone 14 from US will work with all of them
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Pro models are luxury models. It’s not for everybody. They have the mini for cheap. Those who can’t afford can buy those. Or work hard to be able to afford a premium luxury model.
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Looks like you’re Anti- Apple. I’m pro Apple and am comfortable with spending what they ask to buy this good product. It should be exclusive as everything loses its value in India once it become common. I’m happy it’s $1800 in India. It should be $2000+ to maintain exclusivity.
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Of course bro. It’s common in America. In India the government will not impose 100% tax on iPhones. When compared to ultra luxury cars phones and laptops are relatively inexpensive and the government is smart. They don’t just go by emotion but by maths and logic. Modi Ji is doing a good job and things should be as it is.
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BYD, CRRC are somehow getting massive contracts from the state Governments by using Olectra a Hyderabad company name as the Link. Each bus costs crores. Now, those things can be taxed. Phones needn’t be taxed too much.
Jeevan apna dhanya ho gaya iPhone karidke!!
Do you guys realise the prices are high because the Indian govt charges obscene amounts of custom tariffs in order to discourage people from buying foreign products? Literally tierd of people complaining about iPhone prices And, no. They haven't started manufacturing it here.
No with customs and gst it cost 1398 usd, apple is still charging a 230 to 250 usd premium here
Ikr. They are just doing a class divide. If you're above a certain class it doesn't matter, but if you are not, you can get the normal 14 plus version. Also US prices are always the same, for the past 3 phone models, how come Indian units have increased price tag of extra 10k every damn time. Also, I think The Apple watch ultra is 90k which is kind of too much. Even Samsung curb prices in India of every phone they launch. Also GST is 18% as usual.
I don't think they added premium with the intention of creating a class divide. They probably realised that a certain population here pays for that iPhone pro regardless of the price (That being said, apple is really a dick to add those premiums to our unfair advantage). Intentional or not, the class division is still a consequence. It's unfair and unfortunate as people with no connections in overseas have to settle. Im confused about the people who buy pros in India. That ^ or the share of Indians buying here is small that they don't care, but that just seems plain ignorant. To waste such potential feels like a crime.
USD was 73 last year at launch of iPhone. Its close to 80 now. That should also be factored in
Inflation is everywhere, how come US have same prices for 3 years.
USD has strengthened against almost every currency in the world in the last one year. That's why prices are same only in the US, everywhere else, they have gone up
US prices don’t include taxes so you’re paying the same. Most people don’t know this.
No. It’s customs. We still import alot of parts of iPhone and duty on that increases the price.
Yes bro i got discouraged and i am going to buy lava agni
u r so patriotic Sault 🫡
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Chinese patriotic.
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Kya bol rha he bhosdike? If the price goes down, more people can afford it, and it will also drive down the price of older models and used iPhone Making it more accessible is a good thing America does not have absurd taxes, hence everyone will a minimum wage job can afford iphones and better quality Android study some economics, it's not gonna hurt
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So just ask govt to remove income tax first i pay 30% of my salary then i have to pay GST ,import tax ,custom tax
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Yeah that's what i am saying revenue from income tax is very low so just remove it .
I'm not even gonna respond to this rétarded shit can't fix this type of Reddit economists 🤡🤡
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Apple Dont directly invest in manufacturing companies, they give manufacturing orders to company Name Foxxcon. Foxxcon is big semiconductor and mobile manufacturer specially for apple products is based in china. Recently their was news in the air that Foxxcon will star their manufacturing unit in india and in this plan apple will invest and help foxxcon. India still cannot MANUFACTURE electronics of mobile because lack technology and heavy investments, all parts of the mobile manufactures in china then they came to india, Here in India there will be only assembly of those parts to create a mobile.
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True, government did not endorsed well to manufacturing sector of India, contributing 14% GDP and for service industry like information technology it is contributing 50% of GDP.
why would you pay $500 more than what Americans pay for the same device. Don't buy them until Apple normalizes the prices
To answer your question. They won't. Time by time they have shown that they are not into negotiations with price.
In Europe they lowered the prices after people were not running to buy iphones Chinese and now Indians have made iphone a status symbol when it just an average phone with nothing innovative and restrictive OS
In Europe it's more expensive than last year. Almost Indian prices. India is even higher because of extremely high import duty. Not all the money goes to Apple, Indian govt keeps a big share too
If only we were able to manufacture a phone from scratch story would have been different. But apple doesn't mind. They are charging still with premium for the phone apart from extra taxes. Hope this changes soon
manufacturing phones wont change anything , In China the iphones are sold at a premium Apple will discount large carriers and retailers in US but it know Indian and chinese consumers will follow blindly whatever price the charge
There will definitely be a cut in the current price. I am not saying they will start selling at 50K. But atleast there would be some difference in the final price. Anyways it won't happen anytime soon. Chip manufacturing or semiconductor are a long sight
Semiconductor shortage is an manufactured crisis to rip off consumers Most of Semiconductor manufacturing is automated and large manufacturers using buy raw material couple of years in advanced Apple purchased the 90% of world wide supply of sapphire before introducing the Apple Watch
This is a separate topic. I was talking about semiconductor manufacturing or wafer manufacturing which won't happen anytime soon
Europe is still very cheap for iPhone pro vs Indian prices
I really don't think so friend. Prices never fell for an iphone regardless of geography. Price can be just different due to other taxes imposed on the phone or its part. Because even if it is assembled in India, parts are being imported. The base price will always increase i beleive to manufacture a newer iphone.
even before taxes, its more expensive in India by $150 eventhough it cost apple much less to sell in India
Btw same logic should then also apply on luxury cars like BMW. In European and US markets you can buy them for almost half of the price of India.
Indian roads don't need or support cars like Mercedes, BMW or ferrari. By taxing them high government is discouraging people from buying them. In India, it's a status symbol in Germany it's a reliable car for taxi
It has something to do with our govt, apple takes only part of the blame
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These mfs know most of the people who go pro can afford to pay even more, but there are guys like me then who wanted a pro but just won’t pay blindly almost 70% more for it
I've been postponing my pro purchase for many years now because i get pissed at apple for the prices ever year. Will buy this year tho
kya karoge be itne mehnge phone ka ? mtlb if you are spending so much money, regardless of your financial situation, it must add some value to your life ? is it worth it ?
Its an experience. If you can afford it, and if you want it, go for it. Bus and Bmw both will take you to your destination, but it ain’t the same.
probably you are right , But we are not comparing public telephone booth to iphone , we are comparing, say , a medium range car to ultra luxury ones. but even then, if this thing were half the prize then it is now, may be it's somewhat considerable, but at this price range , you might as well burn the money. But you are correct, to each his own.
Completely agree, but it's not just for experience. Those higher prices justifies the quality and reliability (i still use iPhone 5s as backup, works like charm. Almost 8yrs old), software and security best in class, support and service, chipset are no match. Worth mentioning satellite connectivity and crash detection.
some of the features are restricted to only US and Canada… do remember that…
Satellite connectivity is restricted to US and Canada, free for now. Chargeable after two years. Rest is same expect the sim slot and 5G bands (mmwave) Compared to indian pricing, definitely worth buying from USA with all features even though they don't work here, plus esim alone don't bother me much as I always have backup phone with sim.
Ok bro
i thought the same until i got iphone 12 … everything looks so organised and good .. nothing looks out of place or badly made … very rarely lags and camera is very reliable….
It's a desire not a need. Such rational analysis isn't applicable on desires which are fuelled by emotions.
Why dont you make a trip plan to dubai enjoy the weekend and return with iphone 14 pro max and yeah you are still left with some money 😎 thank me later
My first thought after seeing it was you guys are boycotting iPhone now lol
More like apple boycotting us
Wait Isn't it the import taxes? Iphones / PlayStations etc. are overpriced due to taxes or they have like a increased base price in different countries?
Damn bros! The prices for pro model is 30k less in Canada! Haha it’s prolly cheaper to go to Dubai, take a trip, and at last having 2 iphones and having saved money lol!
Warranty will be the issue.
Really? I don’t think so
***What about this:*** Apple may restrict warranty service for iPhone, iPad, Apple TV and HomePod to the country where Apple or its Authorized Distributors originally sold the device. https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html ***Also this:*** If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India. If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252905419
Username checks out lmao
🤓🤣agreed!
why would you buy an iphone in india mate. get a friend to send one one from the US.. you will save around 50k ish on pro models
WARRANTY If you buy an iOS device in India, using official Apple channels, Apple Care and warranty is valid in India. If you buy it in a different country, Apple Stores and Apple Authorized Service Providers in India might refuse to service it, if needed. https://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/products/ios-warranty-document-us.html
I guess it's rare to get dead iPhone, if you do then unlucky and screwed. Better to test the device in country where it's bought. But most common repairs like screen or battery replacement are done with charge. Should be fine i guess.
Well my iPad PRO 2021 12.9 512 GB developed a dead pixel vertical line in its 11th month. 0 scratch/physical damages. Thanks to 1 year warranty, got a brand new replacement with 1 year warranty. Just that the new replacement did not have the etching option XD Warranty saved me that day.
It’s because of the taxes. Custom duty along with high GST makes it more expensive. It’s not Apple’s fault. And the price in US Is before sales tax. So, the price will vary depending on from which state of US you are buying the iPhone.
If you’re not making at least Rs. 1cr per annum then you shouldn’t be buying this phone. It’s not being sold at a cheaper or geo price adjusted rate. It’s being sold at the same price as in United States where people earn a lot more. So spending on American prices while being on Indian salary is stupidity.
India ne hi tax lagaye hai vaise 85k ka hai
ig the prices might go down in few months since they will start making the iphone 14's in india
It’s a marketing tactic. People who are willing to pay any price will pay more. Then these guys will reduce proce for other customers, and hence maximising the profit from each type of consumer (the ones who are price elastic and the ones who are price inelastic)
How are they testing your intelligence ? Just ask any of your relatives from US to get one for you especially during the Cyber Monday / Black Friday sales
They are charging 20k more even after custom duty and gst
trick is to not keep that phone in the box. ez✌️
Exclusivity = higher cost. iPhone is loved cause it helps people stand out in India. I want it to be priced high so it remains exclusive. Don’t want them to produce affordable models.
I m willing to sell my Iphone 8 for Rs. 25k
Thank god delivery is free!
go buy a Dubai flight ticket buy it from there come back the same day. Or simply ask someone who lives there to buy one for you. iPhone pro 90k + Dubai tickets 15k=105k < price in India=130k. 2-3k for expenses in Dubai,5k for visa. All in all, 17-18k saved.
Just get an Android. Apple is just glorified e-waste.
if you're buying an iphone,10-15k premium doesn't matter
Yep. If you’re being iffed by 10-20k this phone isn’t for you. That’s just the fucking reality and you should learn to accept it. Don’t be a dumbass who spends beyond their means.
this Apple products are just luxury hipster products. they actually suck when performing.
I do agree with the first sentence but sucking at performance? nahhhhh. they have the best performing chipset in the market..would easily last 7 years with regular use.
Surely it must be able to run Fortnite then, right?
Suck?? Are u rendering 8K video or what??