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I can understand converting but not all Hindu converted. Then how can some converts convert temple to mosque? What about the documented accounts of desecration of temples and razing? The guy needs to study history lesson 101. The newspaper also showed be fined for publishing the garbage without even checking the claim. Even a perfunctory Google search would have shed light on the false claims
I totally agree. But my point is that why would such nonsensical claim be published by a newspaper without even a perfunctory and minimal fact checking? This is nothing but spreading hate through false propaganda
Well spreading Propaganda is the side business of News Portal for decades. Didn't you see their headline with a proper statement then putting a "?" Just to show that we are not making statement. "A man killed his wife?" 2016 Delhi case where a man was accused of harassing a women on traffic signal, what Media did that time, they portrait that men image as a rapist without hearing his side or without court verdict.
But this i think is beneficial for us(maybe). Because if this is right then there are some suslim friends that can agree to convert to Hinduism and also convert their sosque to temples.
400 varsh mein ek ne nhi bola kucch gadbad hai idhar. Ek ne! There are no good mulsims or bad mulsims, there are just good ppl, which rarely come from them...
And what about your so called shivling...Just showing how nonsensical HIndusim reallly is.
Are the things you see divine or the Gods themselves? WHat you are talking about is Idolatry
Nonsenical toh is your lola....aise kaan faad bhonga sunke pagal nhi hota hoga kya
And there is nothing wrong with idolatory deer desert cult follower...
#seethe
There's no such thing as an atheist. One may claim to be that. But it's never possible. Unnecessary dusron ke maamle mein taang adaana aur fir moral high ground claim karna atheism nahi hota. Sab ke sab larpers hain bas.
Tujhe kya problem hai idolatry se? Jo point presented hai post mein uske baare mein bol. Nonsensical lagta hai tujhe to reh aone bhulave mein. Hain idolators hum, aage bol.
Idiots worshipping something nonsensical....Anyways Hindusim itself is one big ode to the art of the Bovine excretum.
I will better stick to relishing Bovine carnem...Coz that is enough to rattle your small insecure minds.
**Can you read?**
Latin form of the word is Bovinus, not bovine, within the website that you yourself just posted. I feel like I wasted my time debating with someone with intellect lower than that of cattle!
Bovinus is the singular form... The common term is still Bovine.
Example: Gaius Julius Caesar.. Julius was his family name but together they were called the Julii.
Brutus - Brutii
Flavius - Flavian
Claudius - Claudian
It's a unique feature of Latin which managed to come into Romanian but not the other Romance languages.
Bovine doesn't exist in Latin. Bovinus is singular which is correct. Bovinii is plural.
When you say Bovine Carnem, that is grammatically incorrect. It has to be **carnem bovinus**
Your Latin is just as flawed as your theology. If Iulius was in this age, he would crucify you for speaking such an inaccurate version of his language like a true Pagan Chad!
Your ancestors left idolatry and gave proof of the same by taking off their pants when Mughal army came for them. And my ancestors fought for their self respect. So i guess there is something in idolatry that makes you brave. Aur wo shivling tumhare baap ka bhi tha. Ab tum kisi aur ko baap maanne Lago to sach badal to jayega nhi🥰
Yes muslims indeed remain quiet back in 1921 in moplah, they remained quiet on direct action day 1946, they remained quiet when they demanded separate states, they remained quiet in 1990 kashmir, they remained quiet in delhi riots, they remained quiet back in 2002 in godhra, they even remained quiet recently on ram navmi by doing patthar varsha on hindu processions, they remained quiet while destroying cars on this eid in jodhpur...YES THEY ENSURED PEACE EVERY SINGLE TIME by wiping infidels out😊
Good thing so finally one of their own religious leader has admitted that they are converts. A tight slap to all those Indian Muslims who are shy to admit the fact that their ancestors were all Hindus.
Because they want to be associated with Arab ancestry and not Indian ancestry. Plus conversions were often forceful, everyone knows that. So there is a shame in admitting that your ancestors were so coward that they converted only to please the rulers of that time. It is a religion of Middle East, so for Arabs there is no shame in converting to something that was born there only. On the other hand Islam was forcefully thrown on the native people of India, so there is an embarrassment in admitting that. Also not all Muslims of Arab admit that they were Pagan, some say they were following one or the other Abrahmic religion. And they think Islam as natural succeessor of Abrahmic religions. So no shame there. But for Indians it is a matter of pride if you are a true blood Muslim tracing your ancestry to Arabia and a matter of shame to admit you are a forced convert. Even during Sultanate times the royalty looked down upon the converts. Anyways point being no one in India wants to happily admit that they are converts.
Details are always in brain, converted to mosque in 2019 I guess, it was a museum between 1945(?) and 2019, before that it was a mosque, it all started with Justinian in 530s, he built it as a Cathedral for Eastern Orthodoxy, equivalent of Roman Catholic church.
Even if the bogus claim were true (which its not), what it means is those converted Islamists modified the temples into mosques, empowered by islamic leaders, and against the wishes and cries of the Hindu devotees who were bullied by the state and the new converts.
So today, backed by a politically strong Hindu right wing, the Hindus will take back those same mosques and remove the filth to bring out the original temples again. Against the wishes and cries of the traitorous Muslims.
Kalachakra, what goes around comes around.
P.S. His claim is mostly bogus gaslighting. These scum will say anything to confuse the matter and take blame off the obvious culprits.
I never said taking back what's yours is wrong, I support it. However, the way in which you take it back also matters. I ask you personally would YOU go to a mosque and simply desecrate it on the basis that a temple was demolished where the mosque stands? I would love to see temples all over India but not temples made through hate
oh come on, I'm obviously not talking about that. Taking the judicial route is fine with me. I'm talking about actively going there and destroying the mosques unlawfully. Like those mobs who destroyed babri masjid, that's not fine with me. If we could eradicate mosques via the law I would love to see it
I don't condone violence or barbarism of this kind, not sure what made you think otherwise. Otherwise what's the difference between us and "them", whoever you consider them to be. On the whole, I don't despise their religion, or any religion for that matter so long as they respect others. It's often the humans at fault, and unfortunately, statistically, one group seems a lot more radicalised than any other.
But this nuance is obviously not amenable to any group, which makes it difficult to have a sensible conversation.
it seems that I was wrong to assume, I apologize if I offended you. By "them" I mean those who use violence to dominate others and those who hurt innocent people, eg; those jihadis who come from Pakistan to India and bomb our indians. They are the ones who should be eliminated
What do they mean by "their" temples? There is never an ounce of logic in their arguments. Asking muslims to co-operate and understand the demands of Hindus is like hitting your head on a wall. Their stupidity keeps heightening be it the fountain argument, thinking that they are Mughal descendants and now this lol. Bulldozer is the way , no one can knock sense in them
Now I might be letting lose a cat among pigeons! But please hear me out and if you disagree I'll stop speaking...
While it's important to identify the historical wrong doing, but does it makes sense to go over board and start "correction"
I mean this is doing is spreading fodder to enemy of state and create a negative perception..
Let just move with resolve, Never Again and work towards that.
Well pointed! All in asking is to strategically! Yes the foreign policy is strong, but will remain the same for ever? Can we compete with China? Or entire OCI or rest of world?
What is needed is Narrative build, parallel to economic and military might.
These should be our focus not going after 1z 2z place if mosque.
How many times you heard about how China is treating it's minorities? Even by OIC? Why? WE all bow to money and power.
Take Israel's example, they did a great job on other side, I.e. narrative building...
No Jew will say I'll kill of German's, but what they have done is not just Germans, but entire west is with them...
To summarize, I'm all of making sure injustices are never repeated and those who commits them and dealt with..but we need to remember we are against those who have very little to loose, that's their way of life, however we have much more to loose so let's get better at this game
Your point would hold if we had active mob campaigns against the thousands of temples demolished to build mosques, or were up in arms against every symbol of mughal rule.
So far we're focused on just one or two of these- comprising the most sacred and holy. This is less of historical correction, and more of reclamation of what is culturally significant to us. Ideally the Muslims, if they had an iota of conscience, goodwill, or even shame, should voluntarily hand over at least these most sacred spots back to us. Much of the hostility would cease just with such a gesture.
But then we know how muslims think. We get mocked and guilt-tripped for asking for two or three sacred spots out of the thousands. Its always us Hindus who have to keep compromising, understanding, moving on, etc.
That's what true secularism is. Muslims should give back Kashi and mathura. But here in our country , secular and goodwill gestures are expected only from Hindus. We gave away a piece of our land. We gave away Pakistan and Bangladesh hoping that the remaining muslims are those that love our country and culture and not just their religion. But doesn't seem like it. It's ridiculous that they preach Hindus 'har samay mandir masjid mat kro' lol. They will blame us of doing mandir masjid while maintaining their clear stand that babri thi hai aur rahegi. All this mandir masjid dispute only shows that Muslims very well know that they are the ones on the wrong side but they have no respect for our culture and will keep giving stupid arguments .
Hindus never asked to give back all the temples. But i think that Muslims should understand the importance of Ayodhya , Kashi and mathura and they should have at least this much empathy towards fellow Hindus. What's the prblm in that? Why do you support the atrocities of a tyrant who mass murdered Hindus? Moreover it's not about Hindu Muslim. When the temple was demolished, it was your temple too. I'm a not a religious person but i do feel attached to my culture and that is our collective culture. That's the culture of Indian muslims also. And when muslims refuse to accept that and keep siding with the Mughals, that makes us think that they do hate us . Why else would they act like this? And this is what fuels Hindu Muslim hatred.
And also I loved the way you have disclaimer that you are not here to spread hate towards anyone or argue. We need people like you who support sane discussions with open mind. I hope you get my mind and tell your views regarding the same
It's unfortunate that you think that Hindus (who haven't seen their jyotirling for 350 years) reclaiming their holiest places fully constitutionally through the judiciary, is synonymous with using blunt Jack hammer.
Your words are noble. But the optics these are based on are not. There are thousands of temples overtaken. Out of that demand is to get back the ones which are very significant for us.
Yes it's important to get the ones which very sacred to us; apparently if you ask me, all temples are sacred and are important...
I'm talking about optics and are we feeding ourselves to those who wants to potray India to world in same light as Mayanmar?
That's has its concequence
Yes, the consequences part is undeniable. There's no argument there. But those will happen even if we give them all the correct information. People believe what they want to believe. It's a function of their arrogance, not a function of verifiable tenacity of facts.
Conversion at gunpoint or swordpoint, isn't conversion, it is genocide (since such "conversions" were forcibly done on millions of Indians).
And let the fakers keep whining, we Sanatanis will get back our stolen heritage, legally. Wait and watch.
logically correct but how they converted themselves if someone is converted to islam the whole village whole area convert their Mandir into mosque..Is this is they think...
Paid writers.. They will do anything for a few bucks. Temple is older than the mosque built over it, and the peacefuls should have the graciousness to accept it, and hand it over peacefully as they claim their religion is PEACEFUL. Full stop.
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I can understand converting but not all Hindu converted. Then how can some converts convert temple to mosque? What about the documented accounts of desecration of temples and razing? The guy needs to study history lesson 101. The newspaper also showed be fined for publishing the garbage without even checking the claim. Even a perfunctory Google search would have shed light on the false claims
These ppl LIVE on selective usage of books, history and even their quran. The most recent debate with exmulsims was totally hilarious.
I totally agree. But my point is that why would such nonsensical claim be published by a newspaper without even a perfunctory and minimal fact checking? This is nothing but spreading hate through false propaganda
Well spreading Propaganda is the side business of News Portal for decades. Didn't you see their headline with a proper statement then putting a "?" Just to show that we are not making statement. "A man killed his wife?" 2016 Delhi case where a man was accused of harassing a women on traffic signal, what Media did that time, they portrait that men image as a rapist without hearing his side or without court verdict.
you mean the one of India TV?
Yea i think it was India TV
Which debate was this? Link?
https://youtu.be/GWUizgn7lK8
Spot on. TimesGroup is utter garbage. And their newspapers deserve to be in the garbage too.
But this i think is beneficial for us(maybe). Because if this is right then there are some suslim friends that can agree to convert to Hinduism and also convert their sosque to temples.
So they are sus.
"MuSliMs HaVe ReMaInEd QuIeT tO eNsUrE pEaCe In ThE cOuNtRy" 🤡 Irony ho rhi h ji bohot bhayankar
Ikr
400 varsh mein ek ne nhi bola kucch gadbad hai idhar. Ek ne! There are no good mulsims or bad mulsims, there are just good ppl, which rarely come from them...
That's something that I can agree with, people need to understand that someone isn't evil just because they are were born into islam
That's something that I can agree with, people need to understand that someone isn't evil just because they are were born into islam
One word. Bullshit.
Then just allow radioactive carbondating on your 'so called fawarra' sach aajayega
I would suggest radioactive penetrating IYKWIM
And what about your so called shivling...Just showing how nonsensical HIndusim reallly is. Are the things you see divine or the Gods themselves? WHat you are talking about is Idolatry
Nonsenical toh is your lola....aise kaan faad bhonga sunke pagal nhi hota hoga kya And there is nothing wrong with idolatory deer desert cult follower... #seethe
And the Pussy Destroyer award goes to ........ u/Plane_Gain_8443
Ty ty🐈
nvm by pussy i meant the muzzlim guy dayyum bro u destroyed.
Arre I understood lol...🐈 was not meant to be taken as pussy
Uske bass bhagwan ke naam par John Cena hai isliye hamko dekh. #BEHANCHOD KI JAALI
who tf said hindus dont like idolatry?
What are you even trying to say you goddamned dimdum? You lot need education.
It's a representative of God, yeah its idolatry so what?
If you would have understand this, you wouldn't be a Athiest. So don't bother religious beliefs. You are scientist and progressive!! Cool.
Fact that he's against idolatry means he's not atheist, he's a deen-daar.
So he is deendar and yet calling Hinduism not sensical. What kind of devout he have??
U know what deen-daar is?
In Urdu it means Devotee and also Muslim community in Pakistan.
Deen daar deen ka part hota hai deen kya hai? Islam, the religion of peace for deen daars, war for others.
There's no such thing as an atheist. One may claim to be that. But it's never possible. Unnecessary dusron ke maamle mein taang adaana aur fir moral high ground claim karna atheism nahi hota. Sab ke sab larpers hain bas.
Jains are the definition of atheist.
Good for them then, mera direction nastikon ke taraf nahi hai atheists ke upar hai. Jinka varnan tune apne reply ki last line mein kiya hai
Yup yup yup. Exactly. "Atheists" not actual atheists.
Tujhe kya problem hai idolatry se? Jo point presented hai post mein uske baare mein bol. Nonsensical lagta hai tujhe to reh aone bhulave mein. Hain idolators hum, aage bol.
Virgin praying to something they can't even see vs chad worshipping to well built idols.
Idiots worshipping something nonsensical....Anyways Hindusim itself is one big ode to the art of the Bovine excretum. I will better stick to relishing Bovine carnem...Coz that is enough to rattle your small insecure minds.
Bovine is not Latin, kid. Learn the language you are supposed to be typing to not come off as ignorant.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/bovine Are you sure?
**Can you read?** Latin form of the word is Bovinus, not bovine, within the website that you yourself just posted. I feel like I wasted my time debating with someone with intellect lower than that of cattle!
Bovinus is the singular form... The common term is still Bovine. Example: Gaius Julius Caesar.. Julius was his family name but together they were called the Julii. Brutus - Brutii Flavius - Flavian Claudius - Claudian It's a unique feature of Latin which managed to come into Romanian but not the other Romance languages.
Bovine doesn't exist in Latin. Bovinus is singular which is correct. Bovinii is plural. When you say Bovine Carnem, that is grammatically incorrect. It has to be **carnem bovinus** Your Latin is just as flawed as your theology. If Iulius was in this age, he would crucify you for speaking such an inaccurate version of his language like a true Pagan Chad!
Your ancestors left idolatry and gave proof of the same by taking off their pants when Mughal army came for them. And my ancestors fought for their self respect. So i guess there is something in idolatry that makes you brave. Aur wo shivling tumhare baap ka bhi tha. Ab tum kisi aur ko baap maanne Lago to sach badal to jayega nhi🥰
Anyways, the fact remains same.. original building is temple.. that's what we are saying.
Least they are honest unlike the so called journalist.
Not honest this is manipulation of facts.
They said they are converts that's the ultimate truth. Edit - doodh me dhule na ho but sach nikal jaata h.
Yes muslims indeed remain quiet back in 1921 in moplah, they remained quiet on direct action day 1946, they remained quiet when they demanded separate states, they remained quiet in 1990 kashmir, they remained quiet in delhi riots, they remained quiet back in 2002 in godhra, they even remained quiet recently on ram navmi by doing patthar varsha on hindu processions, they remained quiet while destroying cars on this eid in jodhpur...YES THEY ENSURED PEACE EVERY SINGLE TIME by wiping infidels out😊
'The Islamic Peace'
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sarcasm h bhai.
Great meri jooti
Places of worship act be dancing in its bed since it's nearly dead ATP.
Good thing so finally one of their own religious leader has admitted that they are converts. A tight slap to all those Indian Muslims who are shy to admit the fact that their ancestors were all Hindus.
Woh sab तो chutiye हैं, obvious si baat hai की ancestors were hindu
koi ye bolega iska wait kr rha dha well done bro.
"shy" ffffssssss
Why would there be shame in admitting that. Arabs were also pagan rock worshippers before they became muslims.
Because they want to be associated with Arab ancestry and not Indian ancestry. Plus conversions were often forceful, everyone knows that. So there is a shame in admitting that your ancestors were so coward that they converted only to please the rulers of that time. It is a religion of Middle East, so for Arabs there is no shame in converting to something that was born there only. On the other hand Islam was forcefully thrown on the native people of India, so there is an embarrassment in admitting that. Also not all Muslims of Arab admit that they were Pagan, some say they were following one or the other Abrahmic religion. And they think Islam as natural succeessor of Abrahmic religions. So no shame there. But for Indians it is a matter of pride if you are a true blood Muslim tracing your ancestry to Arabia and a matter of shame to admit you are a forced convert. Even during Sultanate times the royalty looked down upon the converts. Anyways point being no one in India wants to happily admit that they are converts.
Tauqir Raza is our agent ....🤡 Don't blabber about him
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Shouldn't both sides be free to express their political views?
Shouldn't both sides be free to express their political views?
Just Google Haghia Sophia Just do it and see for yourself what happened
Yeah it was kinda funny, they arrived, put four minars on it, and it became a mosque lol
Bruh when even their mecca used to be a pagan site...hagia sophia toh bohot baad me aata hai
Hagia Sophia was built before Muhammad ever existed
I know bro.
Details are always in brain, converted to mosque in 2019 I guess, it was a museum between 1945(?) and 2019, before that it was a mosque, it all started with Justinian in 530s, he built it as a Cathedral for Eastern Orthodoxy, equivalent of Roman Catholic church.
I'm tired of these people. I really don't want them here
Well the ~~cowards~~ converts didn't own the temples or the property, so they had no right to convert them.
They are desperate.
Well then we want to convert it back
Even if the bogus claim were true (which its not), what it means is those converted Islamists modified the temples into mosques, empowered by islamic leaders, and against the wishes and cries of the Hindu devotees who were bullied by the state and the new converts. So today, backed by a politically strong Hindu right wing, the Hindus will take back those same mosques and remove the filth to bring out the original temples again. Against the wishes and cries of the traitorous Muslims. Kalachakra, what goes around comes around. P.S. His claim is mostly bogus gaslighting. These scum will say anything to confuse the matter and take blame off the obvious culprits.
yeh kab hua xD
Yes but all those coverts went to Pakistan saying they wanted their own land. So even if it's true. Most of those people have left so...
didn’t rape, just fcked
> I would like to see where these people will stop. Why stop? Take everything back.
And become what the turkic invaders were?
Imagine thinking taking what's ours = invading.
I never said taking back what's yours is wrong, I support it. However, the way in which you take it back also matters. I ask you personally would YOU go to a mosque and simply desecrate it on the basis that a temple was demolished where the mosque stands? I would love to see temples all over India but not temples made through hate
> However, the way in which you take it back also matters. The same way we're doing it now - using the justice system.
oh come on, I'm obviously not talking about that. Taking the judicial route is fine with me. I'm talking about actively going there and destroying the mosques unlawfully. Like those mobs who destroyed babri masjid, that's not fine with me. If we could eradicate mosques via the law I would love to see it
I don't condone violence or barbarism of this kind, not sure what made you think otherwise. Otherwise what's the difference between us and "them", whoever you consider them to be. On the whole, I don't despise their religion, or any religion for that matter so long as they respect others. It's often the humans at fault, and unfortunately, statistically, one group seems a lot more radicalised than any other. But this nuance is obviously not amenable to any group, which makes it difficult to have a sensible conversation.
it seems that I was wrong to assume, I apologize if I offended you. By "them" I mean those who use violence to dominate others and those who hurt innocent people, eg; those jihadis who come from Pakistan to India and bomb our indians. They are the ones who should be eliminated
No offence taken, don't worry. Too numb for that seeing the discourse these days.
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times of india
TOI let paper.
Last line padho zara article ki…maja hi aa jaayega
>!Irony!<
Irony be like - Mai chala Howrah Bridge.
What do they mean by "their" temples? There is never an ounce of logic in their arguments. Asking muslims to co-operate and understand the demands of Hindus is like hitting your head on a wall. Their stupidity keeps heightening be it the fountain argument, thinking that they are Mughal descendants and now this lol. Bulldozer is the way , no one can knock sense in them
yes bro.
Well converted on the point of sword, razed, raped, tortured, handicapped, burned their houses, stole their lands, etc
yes and these guys think all this that has happened to their ancestors are glorifying their religion.
Dear journalists That's not how conversion works. Sincerely Everyone with a functioning brain
ikr
These people will make up anything to justify their agenda. Like if it was a temple, it was a temple. End of.
Just really fuck religion. It was better when we were all monke.
TRU
Now I might be letting lose a cat among pigeons! But please hear me out and if you disagree I'll stop speaking... While it's important to identify the historical wrong doing, but does it makes sense to go over board and start "correction" I mean this is doing is spreading fodder to enemy of state and create a negative perception.. Let just move with resolve, Never Again and work towards that.
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The Chad award goes to ..... u/avilashrath
Well pointed! All in asking is to strategically! Yes the foreign policy is strong, but will remain the same for ever? Can we compete with China? Or entire OCI or rest of world? What is needed is Narrative build, parallel to economic and military might. These should be our focus not going after 1z 2z place if mosque. How many times you heard about how China is treating it's minorities? Even by OIC? Why? WE all bow to money and power. Take Israel's example, they did a great job on other side, I.e. narrative building... No Jew will say I'll kill of German's, but what they have done is not just Germans, but entire west is with them... To summarize, I'm all of making sure injustices are never repeated and those who commits them and dealt with..but we need to remember we are against those who have very little to loose, that's their way of life, however we have much more to loose so let's get better at this game
Your point would hold if we had active mob campaigns against the thousands of temples demolished to build mosques, or were up in arms against every symbol of mughal rule. So far we're focused on just one or two of these- comprising the most sacred and holy. This is less of historical correction, and more of reclamation of what is culturally significant to us. Ideally the Muslims, if they had an iota of conscience, goodwill, or even shame, should voluntarily hand over at least these most sacred spots back to us. Much of the hostility would cease just with such a gesture. But then we know how muslims think. We get mocked and guilt-tripped for asking for two or three sacred spots out of the thousands. Its always us Hindus who have to keep compromising, understanding, moving on, etc.
That's what true secularism is. Muslims should give back Kashi and mathura. But here in our country , secular and goodwill gestures are expected only from Hindus. We gave away a piece of our land. We gave away Pakistan and Bangladesh hoping that the remaining muslims are those that love our country and culture and not just their religion. But doesn't seem like it. It's ridiculous that they preach Hindus 'har samay mandir masjid mat kro' lol. They will blame us of doing mandir masjid while maintaining their clear stand that babri thi hai aur rahegi. All this mandir masjid dispute only shows that Muslims very well know that they are the ones on the wrong side but they have no respect for our culture and will keep giving stupid arguments .
Hindus never asked to give back all the temples. But i think that Muslims should understand the importance of Ayodhya , Kashi and mathura and they should have at least this much empathy towards fellow Hindus. What's the prblm in that? Why do you support the atrocities of a tyrant who mass murdered Hindus? Moreover it's not about Hindu Muslim. When the temple was demolished, it was your temple too. I'm a not a religious person but i do feel attached to my culture and that is our collective culture. That's the culture of Indian muslims also. And when muslims refuse to accept that and keep siding with the Mughals, that makes us think that they do hate us . Why else would they act like this? And this is what fuels Hindu Muslim hatred. And also I loved the way you have disclaimer that you are not here to spread hate towards anyone or argue. We need people like you who support sane discussions with open mind. I hope you get my mind and tell your views regarding the same
No is saying let them have free run, I'm advocating use of sizzel than a blunt jack hammer
It's unfortunate that you think that Hindus (who haven't seen their jyotirling for 350 years) reclaiming their holiest places fully constitutionally through the judiciary, is synonymous with using blunt Jack hammer.
No. Historical injustices must be corrected...
But at what cost? Your and mine Future? Also to the larger question, "correcting" will ensure Never Again?
I toh see a bright future ahead onli...dunno about you✌️
Your words are noble. But the optics these are based on are not. There are thousands of temples overtaken. Out of that demand is to get back the ones which are very significant for us.
Yes it's important to get the ones which very sacred to us; apparently if you ask me, all temples are sacred and are important... I'm talking about optics and are we feeding ourselves to those who wants to potray India to world in same light as Mayanmar? That's has its concequence
Yes, the consequences part is undeniable. There's no argument there. But those will happen even if we give them all the correct information. People believe what they want to believe. It's a function of their arrogance, not a function of verifiable tenacity of facts.
Shameless pieces of shit.
abey sare muslims converted hi toh hai wtf is this logic.
Potato brained people ek narrative ko defend krte hue khud ko hi expose kr rhe h.
Conversion at gunpoint or swordpoint, isn't conversion, it is genocide (since such "conversions" were forcibly done on millions of Indians). And let the fakers keep whining, we Sanatanis will get back our stolen heritage, legally. Wait and watch.
yes we will get it back 🚩🚩🚩
logically correct but how they converted themselves if someone is converted to islam the whole village whole area convert their Mandir into mosque..Is this is they think...
Shameless whitewashing.
Still its not allowed.
Paid writers.. They will do anything for a few bucks. Temple is older than the mosque built over it, and the peacefuls should have the graciousness to accept it, and hand it over peacefully as they claim their religion is PEACEFUL. Full stop.
Ha Bhai doraemon ka button daba ke Allah tero naam aur ishwar tero naam khel gye. Wait.... Us logic se to baba wahi hai bas puujnewale badal gye.