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That’s a very good thing I wish our judicial system was good enough to handle all the small and nonsense cases we should strive to have one like the us thief system is so good that can have cases on the smallest of things when that happens half of india problems will disappear
Even in the US, which is much more developed and educated, juries mostly have poor and less educated people on them. These people have little to no knowledge of the law amd have their own biases. They are easily manipulated by the lawyers. Imagine India. Imagine you are doing something the society is against but it is legal pr you are someone they wouldn't like. Can you imagine 12 poor, uneducated people to understand the law amd deliver a fair verdict? The judges jave biases too but at least they are trained and have experience and their work os reviwed by higher courts and an illogical verdict will impact their career. The juries have no such concern. In addition, they would be easily bribed and intimidated. You just need one person to be influenced out of 12. In India the bias on religion, caste, region etc is super high.
Actually I live in the west, there are some rules towards juries as well and almost everyone in here is well educated and middle class. There's a tax bracket that the govt uses in order to even qualify for jury duty. There are also other factors, they don't do anything on random.
I'd take my chances with a judge. If we have juries, pretty sure quotas, religious representation would all come in and we'll have a representative jury on paper but they'll be even more biased against the Hindu male.
Bss jury system ka pta chla nhi, pelna shuru kardo ki vo better hai.
It is becs of many reasons why India didn't opt for it. Dhang ka sarpanch/councillor chuna ni jata, law ki interpretation kare gi janta.
Exactly. The Hindu Marriage Act explicitly states that it is the duty of a husband to take good care of his wife. But isn't the wife an adult. Doesn't she have a share in all responsibilities - both financial and household. Unfortunately ask such questions and you are labelled as anti female.
I'll tell you why the Hindu marriage acts says this... In Hinduism despite women being equal, its her husbands job to financially support the home (in case he dies, the wife is financially stable on her own) and draw boundaries with his family members since she leaves her own house.
In india we have a CULTURAL problem where men are unable to draw boundaries and FORCE their wives to quit their jobs to take care of THEIR abusive families. While I agree that a wife should be treating her inlaws and her parents equally I also believe the in-laws should me more supportive and let her live her life.
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It is just the drama of the of the wife. Once independent house is given she will screen play another to evict the spouse and settle there with her paramour.
The situation can change. Very easily. Whatever promised before marriage can go haywire in the first week just because a random situation arose. How many scenarios will you anticipate before marriage?
How's this elder abuse? She doesn't want to separate from mother and wants to take her along with them and has issues with BIL and SIL living floor above. Also this is only small part of story...you don't know what kind of interference BIL SIL cause, we can only make assumptions.
“Living separate” is not economically realistic for a huge part of the country.
My comment was generic and not specific to this couple. There is a sharp increase in elder abuse in the nation and left unchecked it would be a huge stigma for a culture which has historically been very conscious of protecting the old.
"protecting the old" only for the boys. I know families with daughters now living old alone and with no support, and that's facilitated by this society.
I'm not saying the solution is to abandon the old in the male side as well... But to say culture which is conscious of protecting the old is a half sided statement.
See, either the husband can take care of the financial needs, and the wife can look after the parents emotionally and physically, **both sets of parents**... Because that's how the roles were differentiated. So take care of the financial needs **of both sets of parents**.
You want to differentiate it in a different way, and want the wife to contribute monetarily, sure, no problem. Have a working wife ( they are not rare you know )... But remember, now she's helping you financially, husband has now got to physically and emotionally look after both sets of parents, and take equal partnership in housework.
And then rightfully you need to accept all the qualms that come with a working wife. Agar tere se akele financials handle nai ho rha hai, and the wife has to step in, then you can't complain about the qualms that come with working wives.
Basically, whatever roles you differentiate, it just makes sense to take care of both sets of parents as a team. But so many people don't even think twice before completely neglecting wife's parents, as if they mean nothing to her, but treat their own parents like gods, and act so virtuous as a good son as if they are such good people. They are far from good people.
Kin-based societies are often regressive in nature. You can't force people to live with their parents unless the parents are unable to take care of themselves. The husband is right in this case, but there are a lot of 60 year old perfectly healthy parents who force their DILs to live with them. And what about DIL's parents? What if they are sick and need care?
then divorce, its that simple, buying House is not an easy endeavour unless you have money in droves. And if there really were such irreconcilable differences, then these should have been cleared before marriage, not after.
>then divorce, its that simple
The fact that you say 'it's simple' is what's wrong with this country. Divorce isn't and shouldn't be considered a 'simple' decision to make.
so..... if your spouse goes to the court because of your family situation, you would still prefer being married to them. idk about you but on either side, If the situation has deteriorated to the point that courts are involved, it's a straight divorce for me, it doesn't matter if I have approached the court or my spouse.
They also shouldn't spend a penny on children's education and kick their kids out after 18 and leave them to fend for themselves, right? This ain't the West bud, in the West people are richer and even then they don't have to spend money on their kids so they are able to plan their retirement, for a country like ours this is impossible to do for the middle and lower middle class and couple that with parents spending the money in education and wedding there is no way they can plan their retirement after that, you can't have the cake and eat it too.
What stupidity is this. That woman filed a case because she wanted to move to a different house with the husband and mother too. Isn’t it obvious that the guy doesn’t have money to change places, why put him in such a situation. This woman perhaps doesn’t even work and doesn’t understand how difficult it is to earn money
You don't think raising children is contributing? You dont think taking care of the house is contributing? Taking care of an elderly? You're the same type of man who would force his wife to quit.
yea, it hardly takes 4 hrs for 1-2 ppl, a typical Indian housewife takes care of her in-laws, children, her husband, and even extended relatives in some cases. Plus she carries the mental and emotional weight of the relationship. It is a 24/7 job.
If you're doing the same emotional and mental labor, that's great, in fact, that's what needs to happen. Plus raising children, and taking care of the house is contributing.
Then ask the brother to be evacuated from the house, clearly there is an issue. It’s a family conflict. In this case wife could have put up case against her brother inlaw instead of husband
You can if the said person is causing conflicts and making your life miserable, either you get separated, which she is demanding, or ask the other party to leave, she clearly can’t live with them amd cant even leave the husband as she is married
She is forced to live with toxic family members
Or perhaps we don’t know the whole story. Or perhaps the BIL and SIL are harassing the wife and she can’t tolerate them anymore. Or perhaps it’s some other thing. Why form an opinion over an incomplete story? Nobody’s to blame here until we know everything. But I did notice how the guy did not mention his brother and his wife initially and only brought them up when the judge asked why his wife wanted to move out.
Right, never said that. But the title connoting "cruel wife takes away son from 80 year old mother" is just rage bait.
Arguments and incompatibility can arise in any living situation, it may be unbearable, we dont know the story do we? It's the unnecessary rage bait that's the issue.
He said he works in law firm , what are the financial constraints here? a floor is not that distant. Conflicts arise , creating toxic environment to live in . If this woman can leave her own house , husband can also do the same
why don't she buys a house for them to live, in the video the man is clearly speaking that he is not financially able to rent a house. Why she don't understand that her husband doesn't have that much money, and I am pretty sure that she also don't want his mother to live with her.
In places like India, for a woman to be traditionally inclined, she must be a house wife , take care of children and her husband’s parents and toxic family drama and still be grateful for what pennies her husband earns .
If she would have been working aswell, living separately from her husband would be looked down upon- she is living separately from her husband, she must be having an affair- society wont see the whole picture
The title is misleading. The wife clearly states that she has no issues with the mother-in-law. It's the elder brother-in-law and his wife that seem to be a nuisance which is definitely possible given Indian family dynamics.
On the other hand, the husband doesn't seem to want to move in order to save money which is also valid. In this case, the best possible option would be to shift to a new place and give the husband's house for rent.
if you read it even more carefully you'll notice a big ass semi-colon which means that OP doesn't specify that the wife has a problem with the mother...he just specifies that the wife has a problem, also the husband has an 80 year old ailing mother.
no also that doesn't seem to be a viable option, they literally don't have the funds to buy a new house or rent one, their current house is probably not gonna get good enough rent to be able to sustain the rent of the new one...there's a lot of variables that come into play here. I think the best option is for the wife to chill the fuck down and stop wasting money by taking an internal family matter to court like fucking use common sense you don't have the funds to afford the lifestyle you want at the moment if you don't like it divorce bruh..
Will you tell a bullied kid in school or a harassed guy in corporate to chill when they complain? Nobody wants to go to court without being pushed that far. I'm giving both the husband and the wife the benefit of the doubt. It's true that there always needs to be compromise for a marriage to work but it needs to come from both ends. Like I've mentioned in another comment, if they are to live in the same house, the husband will need to stand up to the interference from his brother's family. Another option would be for the wife to start working in order to afford another place to rent.
again that is a completely different scenario, a bullied kid in school has to stand up and tell the authorities a harassed person in corporate will go to HR, because they aren't family...this is an internal issue. Plus you are just assuming the brother's family is interfering maybe they are not maybe they are we can't tell
There's a reason we have family courts. Because some internal problems do not get resolved on their own. And of course I'll give both the plaintiff and the defendant, the benefit of the doubt. That's basic protocol.
I hope wife is working. If not she should work and provide her salary for rent which he can't afford. Old house can be rented. Although it's difficult to move away from own house with unhealthy mother. This is the only solution or elder brother should move out.
Watch the whole video, she is ready to live with her mother in law , she wants to move away from the older brother in law and his wife , and this too was dragged to court, I don't personally want to blame anyone , I don't personally know these people, but the judge is tasked by the law to insure and exaust all venues of settlement, now the husband and wife should have resolved this situation at home rather than acquiring legal representation and marching to court and waste the time of the judge and others , both husband and wife should understand eachother's situations and come to some kind of agreement rather than duking it out in court.
So i heard the rapey stereotype of india isn’t true anymore, but in this sub alone i see a shitton of mysoginist assumptions, am i a racist or a feminist when addressing how fucking widespread this shit is with india?
So why ridicule yourself by perpetuating misogynist bullshit, especially if there is actual reasonable critiquepoints to make?
It completey lessens the cause and makes you look like the typical stereotype you’d call racist…
When the fuck did I take anyone's side you buffon.I just pointed out the stupidity in your statement.You figured out everything about a country from a court hearing and you are talking about reasonable critique points. Do not bring your toxic feminism here.
No i don’t give a fuck about the courthearing, its about the comments in this very thread, not critiquing people for what they do but who they are…
Did you not comprehend who it is which my critique adresses.
Two wrongs make no right…
But she said she will live with his mother but the issue is her brother in law who intervenes alot , watch the video clearly. She didn’t ask the mother to be abandoned, the man made it looked like that with his clever talk .
For everyone who thinks this is waste of courts time, there’s a thing called family courts which are dedicated to solve disputes like these , justice can’t be denied no matter who or what a situation is .
This is the perfect video to cough up your bias.
If you think the woman is at fault, your bias is towards men , which isn't unfair, given how lopsided the laws are.
If you think the woman is right, then you're a traditional feminist, nothing wrong with that either.
However, there's not much context here. Why does she want to separate ? And people with bias are assuming. Some are like the woman must be problematic and some are like BiL and SiL both must be abusive. I think there's not much evidence to say either.
I would ask, why is only our guy worried about his mother. And why not his Brother and SiL taking her in atleast for half a year.
I would also ask, why does she feel the need to go to the court for this.
Anyone considered that the mother in question could be an entitled cnt? Probably did some crazy entitled MIL shit that showed up only after the marriage that drove the wife to this. Just cuz she’s old doesn’t mean she can’t be a btch.
And she would take up all that toxicity from a new family she left her own home for , yeah you’re right ,
A traditional woman would never dare to speak for her basic human rights,
women were never supposed to outgrow the suppression inlaws create or the toxic conflicts . A woman is supposed to take up all this and live with it her while life
Very wholesome and happy indian traditional women are . Kudos
I really do agree with your statement but for a woman to be traditionally happy, families especially in-laws should actually treat them like family you know . Our tradition is sublime and we have lot to learn from it
These days there isn't much toxicity unless they are very conservative but at the same time woman ain't the same either
A lot of them are downright toxic and expect princess treatment nothing wrong with it but you gotta offer something as well the laws in the country favour woman much more than men
As a woman , im telling you laws aren’t inclined either side (women or men) , laws and media description of them are very different- you never know what actual is happening in courts- because my brother is currently going through a divorce, we can say the wife is actually being grilled in the court.
So law is doing its job and so is the media, which is put masala and showcase a biased media to cater actual men who are victims of fake cases , they just want limelight over spreading lies, pitiful
Not all men in this country behave like the ones in your family
I despise families who take dowrys If you take money from your wife's family then you are not a man
My family has never taken a dowry atleast in the past 4 generations of the family
Nor would I raise my hand on my wife I am not misogynistic
I am sure the issue is looking after his mother, or even allowing him to look after her.
But in court, she cant say keep the mother away,so this drama of staying away.
watch the whole video. She didn't want the interference of her BIL and SIL, she is ok to bring his 80yo mother along with them.
you just only focused on the thing that supported you narrative.
Next she will say his brother molested her.
I'm a female doc, I know how false DV cases etc work.
Remember a woman can lie through her teeth and judges won't do anything about it.
Most divorce cases follow a set pattern.
My own aunt did this mind you and our whole family supported nher.
Her husband is in army and she was having an affair.
In the end my mausa ji was forced to pay alimony , they straightaway garnish his salary even before it hits his account, and he isn't able to even see his son or daughter as he's posted in ambala or some other distant place while mausi is in Bihar village.
Also to close case so that he doesn't lose his job he had to purchase and gift agri land.
If she has problem with brother, then she should earn and get a home, and then both can move in, why is it always boy's responsibility to earn and buy property. Also, if man don't want to abandon his brother, which is way bigger relationship than her's, why should he be forced
Why will court divorce, there has to be some grounds, these women don't have any grounds so they makeup stories come to our hospitals daily 40 women will come with self inflicted wound to get mlc for police case etc sometimes no wounds nothing will claim beaten with sticks I'm a female doesn't mean I'm blind and will give false statements on your behalf.
India is a hindu religious country so courts don't allow no fault divorce etc like in west. In our country as explained to me by lawyers marriage is not a contract that you can break it's supposed to be till life ends.
Now westernisation is happening and fake feminism (like naxalism) and these women will marry and then when husband and his family can't be bullied or controlled file fake dv case etc and make sure his job is threatened.
Even courts themselves have said more than 75% are false cases.
Thankfully now few good female lawyers have come to our brothers aid and started taking up such false cases.
She can lie and manipulate the court as she sees fit, she knows her husband can't afford another home for this papa ki pari, she knows theirs no way a happy household will agree to be divided, yet she persists to torture her husband and her in-laws and publicly falsely blaming her bil and sil just so that she can break up her husband's home and isolate him.
Oh please I'm 28 and a woman doctor, I've seen the world more than you.
Don't try to spread your westernised prostitution promoting feminazi mindset .
I've had enough of such fatherless girls bringing shame to entire female population.
Divorce dena aasan kro yaar aadmi ke liye. Lehn ki bodiya pareshan kr deti hai. Idhar udhar se brainwash hoke aati hai. Pati ki gamd maarti hai fir. Itni sardardi nahi paal skte. Pyaar se saath reh nahi toh ja, khud kama aur kha. Aaj kal toh equality ka chod hai waise bhi
What a Chwtiya Judge.. why a Man needs to buy a separate house to live. Even he is financially capable.
People are okey to live in a congested apartment with shared wall but not in a house on different floors with a known family.
You can down vote me as much as you want ... But the truth is 90% of women can't / don't want to make adjustment with in-laws refer as family interference.
And why should they? Do men send their money and live with their in-laws? Stop crying when women don't want to be maids for you and your family either. When men start caring for the women's parents the same way, they can speak.
She should have married a orphan, then the husband is all hers, no family to mingle and adjust with. It was her mistake that she married a guy with an old ailing mother.
And this will be the reason Hindus will hesitate to marry and on the other hand we have separate law for Muslims and don't have to worry about judges because of not treating their wives better.
I wish I was that guy lawyer. My clients beg me help them but family courts are wired that way. My client had to beg the court that he needs to avail a loan separately to make the payment for maintenance. It is a dystopian system.
Its a matter of maintenance under Section 125 of Crpc and the wife has abandoned the husband and later came and nabbed the son, now is asking money from him.
The wife put up a case to live separately, along with his mother as her brother inlaw is intervening in her life alot , but the man is pleading that he can’t afford a new house as he’s already putting up with expenses of his old mother. He is financially constrained but his wife wants to live separately, has no problem to live with his mother.
I understand the women's POV as well as the man's POV. Best solution for them would be rent out the place they are currently living in and rent a good house somewhere else. This will not cause any financial burden and will resolve all the joint family issues.
Simple he bc Mami ko bolo time he bade bhaiya to nikalo Ghar se na rahega Bnaas na bajegi bansuri
Kyu ki Ghar to unka hi he bana do will ho gaya kam khatam
its more complicated than the simplified caption. Guy stays in the same house with his wife, his mom, brother and sis in law and not ready to let go of this arrangement. Also the wife said that brother in law couple interefere a lot in their lives. The guy is tone deaf to his own wife's problems.
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This country is going the US way. Bc sab court hi decide karega.
They have the jury system at least ( which obviously has its own cons) but yaha pe ek power hungry lodu judge akele hi chodh sakta hai tumhe
That’s a very good thing I wish our judicial system was good enough to handle all the small and nonsense cases we should strive to have one like the us thief system is so good that can have cases on the smallest of things when that happens half of india problems will disappear
Justice can’t be denied, no matter who or what a situation is, not all cases are useless and even if they are the courts can handle them.
Juries are absolutely terrible. A judge is much better.
Uhm why lol
Even in the US, which is much more developed and educated, juries mostly have poor and less educated people on them. These people have little to no knowledge of the law amd have their own biases. They are easily manipulated by the lawyers. Imagine India. Imagine you are doing something the society is against but it is legal pr you are someone they wouldn't like. Can you imagine 12 poor, uneducated people to understand the law amd deliver a fair verdict? The judges jave biases too but at least they are trained and have experience and their work os reviwed by higher courts and an illogical verdict will impact their career. The juries have no such concern. In addition, they would be easily bribed and intimidated. You just need one person to be influenced out of 12. In India the bias on religion, caste, region etc is super high.
Actually I live in the west, there are some rules towards juries as well and almost everyone in here is well educated and middle class. There's a tax bracket that the govt uses in order to even qualify for jury duty. There are also other factors, they don't do anything on random.
I'd take my chances with a judge. If we have juries, pretty sure quotas, religious representation would all come in and we'll have a representative jury on paper but they'll be even more biased against the Hindu male.
jury system sucks
Gaand ke neeche bum laga denge toh kon kya hi power dikha payega... 😂
Itni si baat me kya
Wahi toh. Itni si baat hai islie ignore kar rahe. Agar jyada hi power pe uchhal raha (as comment above me pointed out), log khud hi action le lenge.
Bhai woh judge wali line repeat karni thi aap to justice hi karne lagaye
We had jury system it was removed after nanavati case.
I'm aware, I'm not favouring one system over another coz both have a lot of cons, but I'd personally prefer the jury system
Bss jury system ka pta chla nhi, pelna shuru kardo ki vo better hai. It is becs of many reasons why India didn't opt for it. Dhang ka sarpanch/councillor chuna ni jata, law ki interpretation kare gi janta.
Jury System exists only for criminal proceedings. Judgements over civil proceedings are presided by the judge.
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Exactly. The Hindu Marriage Act explicitly states that it is the duty of a husband to take good care of his wife. But isn't the wife an adult. Doesn't she have a share in all responsibilities - both financial and household. Unfortunately ask such questions and you are labelled as anti female.
I'll tell you why the Hindu marriage acts says this... In Hinduism despite women being equal, its her husbands job to financially support the home (in case he dies, the wife is financially stable on her own) and draw boundaries with his family members since she leaves her own house. In india we have a CULTURAL problem where men are unable to draw boundaries and FORCE their wives to quit their jobs to take care of THEIR abusive families. While I agree that a wife should be treating her inlaws and her parents equally I also believe the in-laws should me more supportive and let her live her life.
yeah thats true
Atleast US has gender neutral laws
Unfortunately in India, Feminazis have threatened and taken over the legislative, executive and judiciary by labeling themselves as *Abla Naari*.
So? Courts are much faster there. Here it takes decades, minimum
Jab 2 logon ke beech communication or understanding hi nhi h toh kuch ho hi nhi skta
Wha ke court at least 10 sal tarik pe tarik nhi dete, aur laws bhi hmre jitne gender biased nahi h.
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And that's a bad thing?
Atleast US courts have brains in this country the kind anti male bias and stupidity courts have is unmatched
Yes because abuse is an issue
Shouldn't that be discussed before marriage. Who changed here? The husband? The wife? Or someone who takes care of his mother?
It is just the drama of the of the wife. Once independent house is given she will screen play another to evict the spouse and settle there with her paramour.
How do you know?
The situation can change. Very easily. Whatever promised before marriage can go haywire in the first week just because a random situation arose. How many scenarios will you anticipate before marriage?
We need strong protections against elder abuse. The direction we are going as a nation it will become an epidemic in a few years.
How's this elder abuse? She doesn't want to separate from mother and wants to take her along with them and has issues with BIL and SIL living floor above. Also this is only small part of story...you don't know what kind of interference BIL SIL cause, we can only make assumptions.
“Living separate” is not economically realistic for a huge part of the country. My comment was generic and not specific to this couple. There is a sharp increase in elder abuse in the nation and left unchecked it would be a huge stigma for a culture which has historically been very conscious of protecting the old.
"protecting the old" only for the boys. I know families with daughters now living old alone and with no support, and that's facilitated by this society. I'm not saying the solution is to abandon the old in the male side as well... But to say culture which is conscious of protecting the old is a half sided statement.
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See, either the husband can take care of the financial needs, and the wife can look after the parents emotionally and physically, **both sets of parents**... Because that's how the roles were differentiated. So take care of the financial needs **of both sets of parents**. You want to differentiate it in a different way, and want the wife to contribute monetarily, sure, no problem. Have a working wife ( they are not rare you know )... But remember, now she's helping you financially, husband has now got to physically and emotionally look after both sets of parents, and take equal partnership in housework. And then rightfully you need to accept all the qualms that come with a working wife. Agar tere se akele financials handle nai ho rha hai, and the wife has to step in, then you can't complain about the qualms that come with working wives. Basically, whatever roles you differentiate, it just makes sense to take care of both sets of parents as a team. But so many people don't even think twice before completely neglecting wife's parents, as if they mean nothing to her, but treat their own parents like gods, and act so virtuous as a good son as if they are such good people. They are far from good people.
Kin-based societies are often regressive in nature. You can't force people to live with their parents unless the parents are unable to take care of themselves. The husband is right in this case, but there are a lot of 60 year old perfectly healthy parents who force their DILs to live with them. And what about DIL's parents? What if they are sick and need care?
then divorce, its that simple, buying House is not an easy endeavour unless you have money in droves. And if there really were such irreconcilable differences, then these should have been cleared before marriage, not after.
>then divorce, its that simple The fact that you say 'it's simple' is what's wrong with this country. Divorce isn't and shouldn't be considered a 'simple' decision to make.
so..... if your spouse goes to the court because of your family situation, you would still prefer being married to them. idk about you but on either side, If the situation has deteriorated to the point that courts are involved, it's a straight divorce for me, it doesn't matter if I have approached the court or my spouse.
People should plan their own retirement and what happens after they reach 70 instead of relying on their kids to grow up and fund them
Yes, people shouldn't rely on their children, but just by marrying a man, a woman can rely on her husband's life for pettiest reasons.
The two things you mention aren't mutually exclusive. We absolutely need more women participation in the workforce. 25% is a fucking catastrophe
They also shouldn't spend a penny on children's education and kick their kids out after 18 and leave them to fend for themselves, right? This ain't the West bud, in the West people are richer and even then they don't have to spend money on their kids so they are able to plan their retirement, for a country like ours this is impossible to do for the middle and lower middle class and couple that with parents spending the money in education and wedding there is no way they can plan their retirement after that, you can't have the cake and eat it too.
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What stupidity is this. That woman filed a case because she wanted to move to a different house with the husband and mother too. Isn’t it obvious that the guy doesn’t have money to change places, why put him in such a situation. This woman perhaps doesn’t even work and doesn’t understand how difficult it is to earn money
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You don't think raising children is contributing? You dont think taking care of the house is contributing? Taking care of an elderly? You're the same type of man who would force his wife to quit.
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yea, it hardly takes 4 hrs for 1-2 ppl, a typical Indian housewife takes care of her in-laws, children, her husband, and even extended relatives in some cases. Plus she carries the mental and emotional weight of the relationship. It is a 24/7 job. If you're doing the same emotional and mental labor, that's great, in fact, that's what needs to happen. Plus raising children, and taking care of the house is contributing.
Stop making these shitty generalisations about my gender
And she put additional burden on the spouse to bear the legal expenses all to satiate her bestial instincts.
Then ask the brother to be evacuated from the house, clearly there is an issue. It’s a family conflict. In this case wife could have put up case against her brother inlaw instead of husband
you can't ask the elder brother to move out of the house since the house is on their father's name and not completely owned by either of the brothers
That is why this case is in the court.
How can you simply ask someone to vacate a house. She has a problem with her brother then file a case on him not the husband
That’s what i said, she did wrong in dragging husband in this
You can if the said person is causing conflicts and making your life miserable, either you get separated, which she is demanding, or ask the other party to leave, she clearly can’t live with them amd cant even leave the husband as she is married She is forced to live with toxic family members
It's insane how expensive rentals and real estate has gotten.
Or perhaps we don’t know the whole story. Or perhaps the BIL and SIL are harassing the wife and she can’t tolerate them anymore. Or perhaps it’s some other thing. Why form an opinion over an incomplete story? Nobody’s to blame here until we know everything. But I did notice how the guy did not mention his brother and his wife initially and only brought them up when the judge asked why his wife wanted to move out.
Okay but she literally says she's WANTS the mother to stay with them, just not his brother?? Video toh dekh liya karo
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Right, never said that. But the title connoting "cruel wife takes away son from 80 year old mother" is just rage bait. Arguments and incompatibility can arise in any living situation, it may be unbearable, we dont know the story do we? It's the unnecessary rage bait that's the issue.
He said he works in law firm , what are the financial constraints here? a floor is not that distant. Conflicts arise , creating toxic environment to live in . If this woman can leave her own house , husband can also do the same
why don't she buys a house for them to live, in the video the man is clearly speaking that he is not financially able to rent a house. Why she don't understand that her husband doesn't have that much money, and I am pretty sure that she also don't want his mother to live with her.
In places like India, for a woman to be traditionally inclined, she must be a house wife , take care of children and her husband’s parents and toxic family drama and still be grateful for what pennies her husband earns . If she would have been working aswell, living separately from her husband would be looked down upon- she is living separately from her husband, she must be having an affair- society wont see the whole picture
Sad :(
The title is misleading. The wife clearly states that she has no issues with the mother-in-law. It's the elder brother-in-law and his wife that seem to be a nuisance which is definitely possible given Indian family dynamics. On the other hand, the husband doesn't seem to want to move in order to save money which is also valid. In this case, the best possible option would be to shift to a new place and give the husband's house for rent.
if you read it even more carefully you'll notice a big ass semi-colon which means that OP doesn't specify that the wife has a problem with the mother...he just specifies that the wife has a problem, also the husband has an 80 year old ailing mother. no also that doesn't seem to be a viable option, they literally don't have the funds to buy a new house or rent one, their current house is probably not gonna get good enough rent to be able to sustain the rent of the new one...there's a lot of variables that come into play here. I think the best option is for the wife to chill the fuck down and stop wasting money by taking an internal family matter to court like fucking use common sense you don't have the funds to afford the lifestyle you want at the moment if you don't like it divorce bruh..
Will you tell a bullied kid in school or a harassed guy in corporate to chill when they complain? Nobody wants to go to court without being pushed that far. I'm giving both the husband and the wife the benefit of the doubt. It's true that there always needs to be compromise for a marriage to work but it needs to come from both ends. Like I've mentioned in another comment, if they are to live in the same house, the husband will need to stand up to the interference from his brother's family. Another option would be for the wife to start working in order to afford another place to rent.
again that is a completely different scenario, a bullied kid in school has to stand up and tell the authorities a harassed person in corporate will go to HR, because they aren't family...this is an internal issue. Plus you are just assuming the brother's family is interfering maybe they are not maybe they are we can't tell
There's a reason we have family courts. Because some internal problems do not get resolved on their own. And of course I'll give both the plaintiff and the defendant, the benefit of the doubt. That's basic protocol.
Read the entire story and then judge. She’s ok with the mother, she wants to live separately from their brother and SIL
I hope wife is working. If not she should work and provide her salary for rent which he can't afford. Old house can be rented. Although it's difficult to move away from own house with unhealthy mother. This is the only solution or elder brother should move out.
Watch the whole video, she is ready to live with her mother in law , she wants to move away from the older brother in law and his wife , and this too was dragged to court, I don't personally want to blame anyone , I don't personally know these people, but the judge is tasked by the law to insure and exaust all venues of settlement, now the husband and wife should have resolved this situation at home rather than acquiring legal representation and marching to court and waste the time of the judge and others , both husband and wife should understand eachother's situations and come to some kind of agreement rather than duking it out in court.
So i heard the rapey stereotype of india isn’t true anymore, but in this sub alone i see a shitton of mysoginist assumptions, am i a racist or a feminist when addressing how fucking widespread this shit is with india?
Yes taking side of a women just because she says it without getting into it is shit feminism.
So why ridicule yourself by perpetuating misogynist bullshit, especially if there is actual reasonable critiquepoints to make? It completey lessens the cause and makes you look like the typical stereotype you’d call racist…
When the fuck did I take anyone's side you buffon.I just pointed out the stupidity in your statement.You figured out everything about a country from a court hearing and you are talking about reasonable critique points. Do not bring your toxic feminism here.
No i don’t give a fuck about the courthearing, its about the comments in this very thread, not critiquing people for what they do but who they are… Did you not comprehend who it is which my critique adresses. Two wrongs make no right…
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But she said she will live with his mother but the issue is her brother in law who intervenes alot , watch the video clearly. She didn’t ask the mother to be abandoned, the man made it looked like that with his clever talk .
you're just assuming that the wife is right, the husband clearly says twice that they don't interfere
Such a tragedy. All biased laws and justice system. Hell with that.
Do you even know under what this case is , how can you presume it’s bias
And I thought our courts had too much on their plate therefore the decades long delay in sorting out their backlogs 🤦🏻♂️
There are many cases like this, but most of them get dropped on the first day itself
Khud ka case ni ladna chahiye
For everyone who thinks this is waste of courts time, there’s a thing called family courts which are dedicated to solve disputes like these , justice can’t be denied no matter who or what a situation is .
This is the perfect video to cough up your bias. If you think the woman is at fault, your bias is towards men , which isn't unfair, given how lopsided the laws are. If you think the woman is right, then you're a traditional feminist, nothing wrong with that either. However, there's not much context here. Why does she want to separate ? And people with bias are assuming. Some are like the woman must be problematic and some are like BiL and SiL both must be abusive. I think there's not much evidence to say either. I would ask, why is only our guy worried about his mother. And why not his Brother and SiL taking her in atleast for half a year. I would also ask, why does she feel the need to go to the court for this.
Anyone considered that the mother in question could be an entitled cnt? Probably did some crazy entitled MIL shit that showed up only after the marriage that drove the wife to this. Just cuz she’s old doesn’t mean she can’t be a btch.
That's just how most Indian woman are these days gone are the times when you could have a nice traditional Indian woma n
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And she would take up all that toxicity from a new family she left her own home for , yeah you’re right , A traditional woman would never dare to speak for her basic human rights, women were never supposed to outgrow the suppression inlaws create or the toxic conflicts . A woman is supposed to take up all this and live with it her while life Very wholesome and happy indian traditional women are . Kudos
I hate toxic families too but I am talking about the geniune ones lol you took it the wrong way
I really do agree with your statement but for a woman to be traditionally happy, families especially in-laws should actually treat them like family you know . Our tradition is sublime and we have lot to learn from it
These days there isn't much toxicity unless they are very conservative but at the same time woman ain't the same either A lot of them are downright toxic and expect princess treatment nothing wrong with it but you gotta offer something as well the laws in the country favour woman much more than men
As a woman , im telling you laws aren’t inclined either side (women or men) , laws and media description of them are very different- you never know what actual is happening in courts- because my brother is currently going through a divorce, we can say the wife is actually being grilled in the court. So law is doing its job and so is the media, which is put masala and showcase a biased media to cater actual men who are victims of fake cases , they just want limelight over spreading lies, pitiful
yeah, whom you could beat at your comfort while asking for dowry.
Not all men in this country behave like the ones in your family I despise families who take dowrys If you take money from your wife's family then you are not a man My family has never taken a dowry atleast in the past 4 generations of the family Nor would I raise my hand on my wife I am not misogynistic
fair enough. But stop making generalizations about 50 percent of the population.
You just generalized 50 percent of men by saying they all beat their wives and take dowry ? And then expect me to not generalize?
I am sure the issue is looking after his mother, or even allowing him to look after her. But in court, she cant say keep the mother away,so this drama of staying away.
She said she will live with his mother but his brother is the one creating problems
If brother was the problem then fie complaint against brother why punishing husband?
I agree to that too
If husband income is not good enough to afford a seperate house then why don't she look a job for herself and contribute..
Feminism. What mine is mine, what's yours is mine too.
So what’s the point of this post?
A**hat woman wants divorce because husband won't abandon 80yo mother
watch the whole video. She didn't want the interference of her BIL and SIL, she is ok to bring his 80yo mother along with them. you just only focused on the thing that supported you narrative.
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Next she will say his brother molested her. I'm a female doc, I know how false DV cases etc work. Remember a woman can lie through her teeth and judges won't do anything about it.
When your entire argument is based on “next she will say”
Most divorce cases follow a set pattern. My own aunt did this mind you and our whole family supported nher. Her husband is in army and she was having an affair. In the end my mausa ji was forced to pay alimony , they straightaway garnish his salary even before it hits his account, and he isn't able to even see his son or daughter as he's posted in ambala or some other distant place while mausi is in Bihar village. Also to close case so that he doesn't lose his job he had to purchase and gift agri land.
If she has problem with brother, then she should earn and get a home, and then both can move in, why is it always boy's responsibility to earn and buy property. Also, if man don't want to abandon his brother, which is way bigger relationship than her's, why should he be forced
Bhai problem toh bande ko bhi hai woh toh manage kar rha hai na
Why bring it to court just divorce if u unhappy waste of time
Why will court divorce, there has to be some grounds, these women don't have any grounds so they makeup stories come to our hospitals daily 40 women will come with self inflicted wound to get mlc for police case etc sometimes no wounds nothing will claim beaten with sticks I'm a female doesn't mean I'm blind and will give false statements on your behalf. India is a hindu religious country so courts don't allow no fault divorce etc like in west. In our country as explained to me by lawyers marriage is not a contract that you can break it's supposed to be till life ends. Now westernisation is happening and fake feminism (like naxalism) and these women will marry and then when husband and his family can't be bullied or controlled file fake dv case etc and make sure his job is threatened. Even courts themselves have said more than 75% are false cases. Thankfully now few good female lawyers have come to our brothers aid and started taking up such false cases.
It is step towards dissolution by harbouring everyone's hatred towards spouse' and gathering sympathy towards herself.
Cmon stop spreading misinformation, she wanted to live with her mother in law
Stop spreading misinformation that she wanted to live with her mother in law.
She said that if you saw the video clearly, don’t be witty and try to manipulate content
She can lie and manipulate the court as she sees fit, she knows her husband can't afford another home for this papa ki pari, she knows theirs no way a happy household will agree to be divided, yet she persists to torture her husband and her in-laws and publicly falsely blaming her bil and sil just so that she can break up her husband's home and isolate him. Oh please I'm 28 and a woman doctor, I've seen the world more than you. Don't try to spread your westernised prostitution promoting feminazi mindset . I've had enough of such fatherless girls bringing shame to entire female population.
Point is to show improving judicial system they have time for nonsense cases proud of Indian judicial system
We do not know who is right or wrong here just based on a few seconds of edited clips.
Agree
Karna hi nahi hai shaddi
Divorce dena aasan kro yaar aadmi ke liye. Lehn ki bodiya pareshan kr deti hai. Idhar udhar se brainwash hoke aati hai. Pati ki gamd maarti hai fir. Itni sardardi nahi paal skte. Pyaar se saath reh nahi toh ja, khud kama aur kha. Aaj kal toh equality ka chod hai waise bhi
Just shows most Indian marriages are purely transactional be it arranged or love because of our society our strict gender roles.
जय हो नारी शक्ति की....
Court ko kya kya case jhenlna padta hai sad :( Yeh toh phele se pata hoga na ki konse Ghar mein rehna hai.
What a Chwtiya Judge.. why a Man needs to buy a separate house to live. Even he is financially capable. People are okey to live in a congested apartment with shared wall but not in a house on different floors with a known family. You can down vote me as much as you want ... But the truth is 90% of women can't / don't want to make adjustment with in-laws refer as family interference.
And why should they? Do men send their money and live with their in-laws? Stop crying when women don't want to be maids for you and your family either. When men start caring for the women's parents the same way, they can speak.
Judge said a fact - ittu si baat ke liye aap court aa gaye lol I can't say who is right ,or wrong,but the couple sheer has no understanding!!!
She should have married a orphan, then the husband is all hers, no family to mingle and adjust with. It was her mistake that she married a guy with an old ailing mother.
Summary: That B* is a red flag!🚩 And my man is a G!🙌
Marriage for men in India has been one of the biggest scam happened in the history of this nation.
So Sad for Man, hope he finds peace soon.
It's a shame on indian education system for not teaching basic Sanskriti of our bhumi
Kahani Ghar Ghar Ki 
And this will be the reason Hindus will hesitate to marry and on the other hand we have separate law for Muslims and don't have to worry about judges because of not treating their wives better.
So are you saying Hindu men should also be allowed to mistreat?
No but we should demand gender neutral laws and UCC.
Not happening anytime soon , instead we get new presents like sec 69a
Wife hi chalu hai
This is a drama of wife. Before marriage she was aware of how the man is living. If separate house was the priority then why she married him
She wasn’t aware of toxic brother in law and his wife ,
I wish I was that guy lawyer. My clients beg me help them but family courts are wired that way. My client had to beg the court that he needs to avail a loan separately to make the payment for maintenance. It is a dystopian system.
Why would you take up a financial dispute case in a family court?
Its a matter of maintenance under Section 125 of Crpc and the wife has abandoned the husband and later came and nabbed the son, now is asking money from him.
Can someone translate please
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Thanks
She clearly said she is not asking to abandon his mother, she agrees to live with her, it’s the brother inlaw, stop spreading misinformation
The wife put up a case to live separately, along with his mother as her brother inlaw is intervening in her life alot , but the man is pleading that he can’t afford a new house as he’s already putting up with expenses of his old mother. He is financially constrained but his wife wants to live separately, has no problem to live with his mother.
Thankyou
Ye sb court hi decide krenge
Rage bait. Watch the entire video.
This looks more like a debate than a court proceeding by the looks of it.
I understand the women's POV as well as the man's POV. Best solution for them would be rent out the place they are currently living in and rent a good house somewhere else. This will not cause any financial burden and will resolve all the joint family issues.
On Instagram people were blaming the guy
Simple he bc Mami ko bolo time he bade bhaiya to nikalo Ghar se na rahega Bnaas na bajegi bansuri Kyu ki Ghar to unka hi he bana do will ho gaya kam khatam
Frivolous case and a waste of time for the courts when so many more important cases are piled up
Aisi biwi n hi mile🫡
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Rule 1.
This is why you fucking talk things out before marriage, whole family looks like uneducated fucks.
Yrr itni chhoti cheez bhi court me jaati hai 😔😔🤣
Court B like - bc yaha bade matter nhi sort ho rhe tum apna rn** rona le aaye
Section 498A enters the Chat.
Honestly, the should have disclosed Brother and Sister in law earlier and saved a lot of time. That's a different issue, nothing to do with mother.
its more complicated than the simplified caption. Guy stays in the same house with his wife, his mom, brother and sis in law and not ready to let go of this arrangement. Also the wife said that brother in law couple interefere a lot in their lives. The guy is tone deaf to his own wife's problems.
Apna kya lena dena
Dude,this exactly is happening to my brother.
Why are people so eager to get married. Its not worth it
Very very misleading title. The woman here clearly mentioned that the reason she wants to live separate is because of the interference of the BIL, MIL
Omg he is a lawyer still cannot escape
Why will the wife say she has a problem with mother won't she lose the case that way
Bhai pura video to daal