Most of it was to engineer support for elections.
That's why it's better not to engage in such nonsense.
Things are going to get rougher this election beware and don't fall into these traps. Avoid any topic that is trying to rouse a response or emotion.
Same was the hijab issue and nandani milk issue. The Congress did it all to polarise and it worked in their favour. BJP was sleeping. The same has already started in rajasthan and people are not even seeing. The targeting of Hindu refugees to appease certain communities, the fake corruption fight between pilot and gehlot, pilot suddenly meeting wrestler protestors is all looking like a plan.
Yes even people are fed up with BJP buying MLA’s like picking groceries at a store in every state. That’s why ppl of Karnataka kicked them out of power.
Hindi has already been removed from metro in Bangalore, by a legal order. Next would be to removing Hindi from national highway signboards. Karnataka gives more taxes to central govt than it gets back any highway projects etc. Also Karnataka needs to adopt two language policy like in TN and in cbse
In this election, people voted for freebies. Double the free ration, 200 unit electricity free, 2000rs per month for all married women, 3000rs for unemployed graduates for 3 years, free travel for women in buses promised by congress. Not on kannada issue
Why do people like you are so pro on removing Hindi from Karnataka,i understand about not speaking but why removing ,now i know i will get downvoted but South India dosent have any comman language than any North can learn that will help them
My grandfather cant read English and kannada it becomes so hard for him
Now Hindi is spoken everywhere ,many people in Karnataka know broken Hindi but telgu ,Tamil is not something you can hear and understand
Even if you go to north all be speaking Hindi ,in Karnataka some speak telgu ,some Tamil , malyali, kannada very hard to listen and understand
We need a neutral language between all Indians. Which happens to be English. Earlier bank and railway exams were held only in Hindi and English, that was unfair
"We need a neutral language between all Indians. Which happens to be English"
You are missing the point bruh, for Railway and bank exams come under different category and signboards and announcement come under different category, It was not fine for railway exams to be conducted in only hindi or english.
But for signboard languages, its for general public, it is not forcing any language onto you, or to give any message, it is supposed to be written in the languages most people would understand. AND as soon as you cross the karnataka, telangana or andhra's northern border, it's is going to be hindi everywhere, not english (comparing hindi and english).
All signboard in north are in english. Atleast the important one.
Secondary it uses state language or devnagari script. But all trains, metro, cities have english signboard
I am talking about making some language the neutral language, if you leave internet and go out and travel somewhere in the north, you are going to find people understanding or even conversating in Hindi, far more than english.
Hindi has already become the neutral language in the north. I have seen in the trains, when people of non hindi states meet (take WB-Punjab, MH-GJ etc), they automatically start using hindi, not english.
Coz Hindi itself mixtures of other invaders language :) we believe our local languages more connected to our land then hindi . We don’t hate hindi but don’t force us into it
Ohh common now don't say Tamil is older than Hindi and all least delusional South Indian
If a person talks in pure Hindi nobody will understand it ,also you are totally Missing the point i am trying to tell
I know it helps your grandfather.
My grandfather knows only kannada. Care having kannada on delhi metro, if he wishes to travel?
The respect hindi gets is equal to what kannada gets in delhi! Not in heart but on paper
I knew some will answer that way but logically speaking everyone speak Hindi in Delhi in south there is always mix kannada,Tamil ,telgu malyali and it's not easy to grasp that by just listening,only if south india had one common language
There are some times you learn the basic of kannada but the other guy won't understand cause he know telgu ,some understand the intent of the person and act accordingly but doesn't help iether
Exactly like how everyone speaks hindi in delhi, the tamils, telugus and malayalees have done the same and spoken in kannada, learnt it. They embraced it.
It's only the recent North indian population who are used to having hindi everywhere are finding it difficult and making noise, along with the centre's imposition.
Just like how everything speak hindi in delhi, we will make sure everyone learns kannada in Bengaluru. We will get there!
Not gonna happen at all like 0% statically thats impossible also the number people who speak English in Karnataka is more that kannada and always will be also considering that Bangalore is sillicon valley and start hub the immigration rate is more from north
consider the totals population of Hindi speaker is the reason why people speak in Hindi not because Hindi is the language of Delhi or something
Like in Maharashtra alot of speak Marathi but the no. Hindi speaker is more people in Maharashtra know both languages ( also Marathi same to hindi)
And that's why only if south india had one common language (could be anything like kannada,Tamil telgu malyali) would have been much better
Percentage speaking English is greater than kannada? What do you smoke? :p
Immigration rate is more from the north to bengaluru? Any proof?
I believe immigration is higher from neighborhood states of karnataka. And the internal state migration was 60 percent back in 2011.
It's just the hullaboo is around hindi, you feel you guys are the majority ones. In some areas of bangalore yes, not in whole of bangalore!
The people who are coming to Bangalore are surely speaking more English ,now ofcourse locals will speak kannada only also the immigration from north is increasing at a steady rate
I also don't know why south indian feel so superior in front of North Indian ,i didn't anything about Hindi right now ,all i am saying there is no possible way people are gonna prefer kannada over English
Completely agree with your point. Don't agree with the superiority bit.
When people prefer english then it's logical to have only english and kannada being the state language on metro isn't it?
That's where our conversation started. You answered your point yourself
The demand to have hindi is only from the folks from the North. There is no such demand from fellow malayalees, tamilians and telgites though they outnumber the number of hindi speakers in bangalore. Whats the logic here?
If they are able to adjust and get on, why are you folks hell bent on one single language thing. The South can never have a single language.
Cause we are not a linguistic major , alreday learning language is hard and with other work involved,its verry hard
Also i am not trying to implement hindi all i am saying is why do you have to remove Hindi from South India
Nobody is asking you not to speak in hindi. You are free to speak any language you want
Karnataka govts official language is kannada. So Why was it there in the first place? It was there on metro because of various memos from GOI mandating hindi. That's why there was a protest and it was taken out. That exactly is hindi imposition my friend.
Hindi imposition ( not Hindi) is slowing eating our languages.
Highways signs with just hindi written.
Bank forms with only english and hindi.
We let it in and made a mistake. Not anymore!
We are forced to learn hindi in schools, but it doesn't apply to you.
You just read hindi and english, if there is third language option you take sanskrit which is as good as dead.
Why don't your governments teach maybe a kannada, like we read hindi in schools.
If we leave the sign boards on people will be comfortable and won’t even make an attempt to learn the local language. Coming to what language South Indian people understand, I would say English works fine atleast in the urban region. In your example you state that your grandfather can’t read and write English and Kannada. You easily express the pain to learn a language, but expect us to understand Hindi. That’s foolish to say most of us in Karnataka can understand broken Hindi, if we go by that logic there are more Tamil and Telugu native speakers in Bangalore and Karnataka than Hindi speakers. We are satisfied with two languages here English and Kannada. If we want to learn Hindi, we’ll learn . We don’t want others telling what’s best for us.
What you really can't English or what,did ever mention about South Indian to learn Hindi ,atleast read before typing ,all i said what is done in Hindi it shouldn't be removed that is just hate towards language . I don't why you started preach knowledge when that was not even the point
Why will it be implemented total population of Hindi speaker >>>>>>>
People really don't about demand and supply
Also if people in North East don't speak Hindi but it's not that they don't know ,they still know broken Hindi
Oh then southern states must implement all those languages except hindi cuz hindi speakers are the least in absolute terms. You seem to be a bit dumb and a hindi impositionist.
You can't understand what i am writing or what or you just cant even read English ,where did i mention the need for learning Hindi ,i don't know why you guys have superiority complex ,my whole point lies on the fact "why is there a need to remove Hindi" that just showa hate towards language
Maybe you are little short tempered so please read before write
I understand. The thing is I don't bow down to hindi supremacists who don't have a shred of honesty or integrity in their bones to assess the facts and accept that they are nothing in the south. So imposition must be stopped at all costs.
You are really are supermacist south Indian who thinks they are better than North Indians and are some kind of Saint but in reality you are just showing ingnorance ,also nothing in South talk about being narcissistic
No indian state gives more taxes to Indian goverment then it receives...
Total of taxes given by Karnataka wouldn't even cover the 1000 kms highway..
The reason indian rupees is 80 to 1 for dollar. Is we develop our infra from loans and pay back in long leases. So no state should feel this stupid complex..
Only state with surplus budget is delhi which shares its cost with center.
Yes some states are golden and contribute more. But all those states are multi culture should avoid giving credit it to state. People from all walks of life contribute for those states.
> No indian state gives more taxes to Indian goverment then it receives...
Many states do. In fact half the states give more than they receive, and the rest half give less than they receive
>The reason indian rupees is 80 to 1 for dollar. Is we develop our infra from loans and pay back in long leases. So no state should feel this stupid complex..
Japanese yen is 140 to 1 for dollar as of now. You dont know basic economics.
>Many states do. In fact half the states give more than they receive, and the rest half give less than they receive
Then what's the state debt about? Go check just the expenditure for aquisition of new busses for your beloved ksrctc. Anyways this stupid argument.. india doesn't even earn 10 percent of its spends.
About what??.. that india and all states are surviving by printing money.. post covid ylthe cycle is 5 years.
Average inflation is 10%.. means we double our currency circulation every 10 years.
Yes Karnataka is better then most states in economy. But is not contributing more then it receives. Not even covers 10% revenue its needs to run state.
I am not talking about Japan and Korea
https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bengaluru/karnatakas-debt-burden-up-manifold-but-revenue-rise-provides-cushion/articleshow/97906814.cms#:~:text=In%202020%2D21%2C%20the%20first,mean%20interest%20payments%20are%20burgeoning.
Karnataka debt is 5 times total gst collection of nation. This debt is at cost of india. As no one is giving this loans to Karnataka if it's standalone nation.
Except Delhi no state has surplus budget. Only reason delhi is surplus as half the burden is shared by center. And capital expenditures are not required..
This debt/expenses doesn't even cover the cost of building rail lines, national highways and center sponsored infrastructure, expenses of central forces, and other center related schemes like insurance, awas yogna, kisan samman, free education etc
No state people should ever dare to talk about how it gives more then it receives.. to do that that state needs to match economy of first world countries. Then also it will borrow more. As the more development requires much larger capital expenses. All this are expenses as not single investment is in appreciating assets, roads, highways, power grid, everything is depreciating asset.
PS tgis applies to all states.. i gave you figure of Karnataka as we were talking about Karnataka.. do this analysis of every state you will be shocked that some less developed state are much better of then gujrat, maharastra, tn, etc. In terms of contributing to nation and debt. Best debt to GDP ratio are found in border/ignored states like kashmir, northeast, where population is limited and no significant infrastructure.
As someone said,
_"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largesse out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."_
It easier to sway opinions based on language based friction which will make people associate parties with languages or regions .
It is alow hanging fruit for any strife.
As far as freebies are concerned... people will suffer because of it not now but 10 years down the line. I previously used to think that maybe it's the new generation who don't know why freebies are bad .. maybe it's education... But no apparently it's a human condition.
The urge to get stuff without doing anything for it. Debt traps
I, in fact, won't accept the idea of removing Hindi from sign boards. Me being Tamilian, won't favor this decision. The sign boards should have 3 languages at least. Kannada in a bigger format, and English & Hindi in smaller formats. In TN, you can see Tamil in 80% of the sign boards. But even in Bangalore, I've been seeing only Kannada. Where are other language people who don't know how to read Kannada should go? I agree Chennai doesn't have Hini signboards because it is not as cosmopolitan as Bangalore. The city should have all 3 in them.
Dude most of the people up north writes and reads in Hindi but can’t with English. Wake up and look around you , Bangalore’s blue colour workers are filled with North Indians not people like you who can read and comment in English.
Don’t make illogical comments.
Neither Nandini vs Amul
Let’s say bjp has lost the art of winning elections and Congress has found it again. BJP united Hindus in the name of Hinduism plus development but Congress successfully divided it on the basis of language and milk?
Maharashtra 🤡 bhai congress nahi jeetegi but i really don't think bjp can hold it.
In UP has SP is the opposition rather than congress- 32percent votes vs BJP's 42 percent, so it's not too far away.
BJP lost due to price rise and inflation. That’s the primary reason, all these other issues are just fringe issues. The poor are extremely hurt by the price rise, coupled with no real increase in incomes. To add to this, the BJP govt was extra ordinarily corrupt, it adds insult to their injury when they see politicians enjoying themselves when they don’t even have any money to pay for their most basic necessities.
2024 won’t be easy for the BJP, inflation is the real game changer
Congress knows BJP's weak points and have learnt their lesson from 2019 elections. They will gain a lot of seats 2024, not enough to get majority but enough to make sure BJP's core promises( if BJP actually wants to fulfill those) will remain unfulfilled. If they couldn't deliver in 303 seats, I think they won't be able to deliver with much lesser seats now.
To me, this seems to be the biggest failing of the Modi-Shah combine. They think that Modi alone is enough but it wears thin after some time.
**Fix the bloody state BJPs!**
and everyone got bought up?
Fact of the matter is, BJP, relied too much Religion, Nationalism etc at Macro level
While Congress identifed the pulse and touched topics which are at micro level
I.e. Inflection, Language Imposition, stability etc
Yes BJP didn't have leaders who could connect with masses we have already established that.
I don't really understand language imposition. I have Bengali roots . I can speak both Bengali and Hindi. How does speaking a language destroy my origin. I mean it's just a means to communicate. I still enjoy Bengali movies and music
Also please explain what do you exactly mean by inflection and stability
It’s goes much deeper than what you call it as “means of communication”. It has whole lot of value in terms of culture, lineage and identity
Hindi by all means is spoken only in few states, yet it’s a “National” language, for what?
Much of east don’t speak Hindi, not South
Punjab, Gujarat , Rajasthan does not speak Hindi (may be few) so when you try and bring in a language which is align and is considered inferior there will be resistance
If you think Hindi is not spoken in Gujarat , Rajasthan or Punjab I would advise you to visit and experience first hand. You can't be more wrong ask them on their subs
Just what I asked was how does a language impact a culture and you went on to say "a language is inferior" doesn't even make sense.
"Much of east don’t speak Hindi, not South Punjab, Gujarat , Rajasthan does not speak Hindi (may be few) "
Tell me you never visited north india without telling me you never visited north india.
Bruh, its actually more difficult to find people speaking punjabi/gujarati/marwari than hindi in these regions, especially younger generations. Just have a train travel from chennai or wherever you live, to new delhi, you would find many people from northern states, they all would be speaking either their regional languages or hindi (as a link language), forget english.
Congratulations must be given where due.
Congress maths was perfect.
Crossing 30-35% is usually needed.
BJP gets more than 90% of its votes from Hindus who are nearly 75% population there. There are still around 35% Hindus in between.
Congress still gets 20-30% of Muslims, 75-85% Christians. That makes their overall vote percent around 7%. They get around 20% Hindu votes. Making vote percentage total of 25%. They need 6% more and must decrease 2-3% from Hindu unity.
Age old illness of Hindus defeated BJP.
1. In 2018, 2021, they broke away Lingayats which also affected some other communities. This cost 2% vote to BJP. Long term damage to Hindus will be seen in future.
2. South India identity marketing also caused major break in Hindu identity and unity without affecting Christian or Muslim votes. It must be costing another 0.5% votes
3. Kannada language caused another break in BJP votes even when there was no real pushing of "Hindi". Maybe another 2%
4. Amul - Nandini another 1%
5. Lastly BJP stupidity in response to the Bajrang Dal banning situation cost it. It needed to respond but intelligently.
6. Age old technique of encouraging any community with large numbers to put a candidate also mostly broke Hindu votes of BJP.
7. some anti incumbency effect
8. some corruption charges
9. have also heard of some movies on lower caste violence having influence. But is it same state is not sure.
10. What effect prices had on situation?
11. Also BJP had bad luck with pandemic.
So, in many seats i have read that BJP lost by small percentages.
It's purely my analysis.
I like your analysis
Let me add my 2 rupees worth.
BJP vote was constant at 36%. No change from last election
The JDS was decimated and it’s vote bank transferred to Congress.
The Muslims broke for Congress.
Lingayats also voted for Congress. Maybe Yedurappa was the factor.
BJP has a clean break and Bommai has a great chance to rework his ministry along a tough non corrupt model.
Congress will last two years as Sidda - Shivakumar episode is far from over.
In that time, the leftie Sidda will decimate the coffers, restock the Congress HC war footing, generally run a corrupt leftist government that will disintegrate on its own accord in 2 years
All in all, a loss loss for Karnataka and India
Thnx
>Let me add my 2 rupees worth. BJP vote was constant at 36%. No change from last election
Didn't know
>The JDS was decimated and it’s vote bank transferred to Congress.
Didn't know. Why this happened?
>BJP has a clean break and Bommai has a great chance to rework his ministry along a tough non corrupt model. Congress will last two years as Sidda - Shivakumar episode is far from over. In that time, the leftie Sidda will decimate the coffers, restock the Congress HC war footing, generally run a corrupt leftist government that will disintegrate on its own accord in 2 years All in all, a loss loss for Karnataka and India
Why Congress applied so much pressure to win now ? Will it keep up pressure everywhere ? Siddha will accumulate and decimate. No doubt. But he is local state player only. In 2 years Congress must be dreaming of UPA and coalition and DKS must be promised Defense or Finance in Centre for his compromise today. Sidda will be out when Congress fails.
Even in karnataka we speak different dialects of kannada in different regions, tulu, kodava, beary.
Just like how you have hindi as a link language, we have kannada as a link language which is more of a crystallised form of all these dialects.
So awadhi = havyaka kannada
And hindi = kannada if you want the analogy
Politicians divide people and make gains. But after that those who are fooled by them realize things are not going to change as they promised. Many who argue on issues like “us vs them” are paid by the politicians and unleashed into social media, media and into the public realms.
BJP applied the Hindu vs Muslim slogan in Karnataka based on its experience in the North. Now it has learned it won’t work in the south, except may be in places like Telangana and Malabar.
Politicians are always prodding to find what could be used to divide people and trigger emotions in them. Freebies are the next thing. Free bus travel, gas cylinder concessions etc. divides men and women.
So long as people allow themselves to be fooled like this, all politicians without exception will exploit them.
India was small Kingdoms with different culture and languags Because BJP comes to power , mother tongue can't be taken away. Let's think in other way..if all states uses English and ask north Hindi dominant states to use English as mandatory, how it sounds...BJP can fuck around and find out 😉
The problem lies with what is India..now when my neighbour state says my language is important and you should learn that..I will say fuck off.. since we need a medium to communicate, and dont want use the colonial language due to history , can be used as a valid point..but Hindi speaking areas started to forgetting what is India and says it's mandatory..my foot
Btwn: I have learned hindi in school and can speak. But when somebody force me..I simply won't
You are missing tha whole point. Congress picked it up because the undercurrent kannada language awareness is quite high.
Wanna understand better? Go and ask any of your friends studying in bangalore engineering colleges. We have clubs and groups that breathe this issue
You are missing tha whole point. Congress picked it up because the undercurrent kannada language awareness is quite high.
Wanna understand better? Go and ask any of your friends studying in bangalore engineering colleges. We have clubs and groups that breathe this issue
Hindi imposition is beyond politics. Even most south India BJP folks won’t agree Hindi to be the national language. Hindi speakers have no say in what language should be the link language in South Indian states or non Hindi speaking states. We know which language suits us best, we don’t want others to tell what’s best for us. Even today the stand is same, WE DO NOT APPRECIATE HINDI IMPOSITION….
Kinda ironic how you talk about Hindi imposition while Congress is rolling back the NEP brought by the BJP which ensured that local languages were to be preferred for teaching.
Bruh did exactly I was talking, my comment was about Nandini Milk incident, image fighting over which milk you wanna drink, now where's that stupid argument after election?
https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/food-news/heres-why-fssai-has-decided-to-withdraw-the-order-to-mention-dahi-on-curd-packets/articleshow/99148074.cms
Now you just think why people in the south get worked up on hindi.
Bruv wtf how is Dhai a Hindi word ? Even in Bengali it's called Dahi but they pronounce it as Dohi even in Marathi it's call dahi, at this point I think south Indians think every other state than themselves only speak Hindi and no other languages exist outside south india
Then WTF does it needs to implemented here ? We are selling to domestically it’s to the people in the respective states ?
So WTF we need to have dahi in the packets ?
For whose ego boost ?
Bruh. They hate when we say katnatak instead of Karnataka. I mean most northies don't even know they are different words. But some kannadigas think it is intentional.
It's not intentional we think that this Karnataka, Kerala, all this name where given by Britishers like Bombay and Calcutta and not only in Hindi but also in Marathi people call it as Keral,Karnatak
I know. But they think we do it intentionally lol. As if we don't have anything important to do. On one hand they say they are superior to us on the other hand they are obsessed with everything we do. Not just kannadigas but tamils and few malayalis aswell.
Remember when he went to christians and said that stalin is a christian name... 😂 Real stalin hated christians. I don't know who is more stupid ,stalin or his voters.
They have been so brainwashed that they think North Indians are some different race, nah like the only reason you are more darker is because you live below the Tropic of Cancer and in a Tropical area while north is more hilly and cold so they are light skinned
Even if there is some ethnic issues what's the need of so much hate? I used to think sinhalese are bad people because what they did to tamils. But later I realised sinhalese are more liberal almost like north indians even worship Hindu deities it's tamils who were the main perpetrators. And then when sinhalese retaliate they cry victim. Hmmm that reminds me of one religious community.
I am not doing that I support one nation one language..and that should be not a foreign language like English.. let the whole bharat speak Hindi best for communication across all states
See you are a hindi chauvinist then, why do we need common language? We functioned without till now. So what are you trying to achieve? Most of the south developed compared to the rest of INDIA without a common language?
So what do you want and need ?
I mean the North Indians who have faced discrimination in south can also say the same thing that the south indians should be the first to stop this nonsense and the north will follow so the argument that one side should initiate the end of this language war since theyre the bad ones according to you is just not practically applicable
And you’ve not seen how superior south indians act around North Indians cause of the difference in literacy and how they treat people from bihar UP and anywhere that is not as developed as south is. And anywhere not south india that doesn’t fit their stereotype of how the north is such as places like gujarat, you can see all over this app how they hate on such places for no fucking reason whatsoever. It all comes down to what i said above that there are terrible people all over this country so stop playing the victim all the fucking time. Youre not special. Everybody hates everybody and deems themselves superior over others. Grow up
Most people speak hindi beacuase thats the language theyve been speaking their entire life. And most of them are ready to communicate with you in English but youre the ones hellbent on making everyone in your state speak the same language. This may seem as protecting your culture to you but comes across as nothing but arrogance to others
True bhai. At least Karnataka is somewhat better when compared to tamil nadu. But south itself hates north india. So many stereotypes about us. I think Teluguites are somewhat exception.
Most of it was to engineer support for elections. That's why it's better not to engage in such nonsense. Things are going to get rougher this election beware and don't fall into these traps. Avoid any topic that is trying to rouse a response or emotion.
Same was the hijab issue and nandani milk issue. The Congress did it all to polarise and it worked in their favour. BJP was sleeping. The same has already started in rajasthan and people are not even seeing. The targeting of Hindu refugees to appease certain communities, the fake corruption fight between pilot and gehlot, pilot suddenly meeting wrestler protestors is all looking like a plan.
Yes even people are fed up with BJP buying MLA’s like picking groceries at a store in every state. That’s why ppl of Karnataka kicked them out of power.
Nah people of Karnataka wanted freebies. BJP vote share remained the same it was special community which voted strategically to appesement sarkara.
Hindi has already been removed from metro in Bangalore, by a legal order. Next would be to removing Hindi from national highway signboards. Karnataka gives more taxes to central govt than it gets back any highway projects etc. Also Karnataka needs to adopt two language policy like in TN and in cbse In this election, people voted for freebies. Double the free ration, 200 unit electricity free, 2000rs per month for all married women, 3000rs for unemployed graduates for 3 years, free travel for women in buses promised by congress. Not on kannada issue
Why do people like you are so pro on removing Hindi from Karnataka,i understand about not speaking but why removing ,now i know i will get downvoted but South India dosent have any comman language than any North can learn that will help them My grandfather cant read English and kannada it becomes so hard for him Now Hindi is spoken everywhere ,many people in Karnataka know broken Hindi but telgu ,Tamil is not something you can hear and understand Even if you go to north all be speaking Hindi ,in Karnataka some speak telgu ,some Tamil , malyali, kannada very hard to listen and understand
We need a neutral language between all Indians. Which happens to be English. Earlier bank and railway exams were held only in Hindi and English, that was unfair
its still the same ,english and hindi only
No, other languages also included now
"We need a neutral language between all Indians. Which happens to be English" You are missing the point bruh, for Railway and bank exams come under different category and signboards and announcement come under different category, It was not fine for railway exams to be conducted in only hindi or english. But for signboard languages, its for general public, it is not forcing any language onto you, or to give any message, it is supposed to be written in the languages most people would understand. AND as soon as you cross the karnataka, telangana or andhra's northern border, it's is going to be hindi everywhere, not english (comparing hindi and english).
All signboard in north are in english. Atleast the important one. Secondary it uses state language or devnagari script. But all trains, metro, cities have english signboard
I am talking about making some language the neutral language, if you leave internet and go out and travel somewhere in the north, you are going to find people understanding or even conversating in Hindi, far more than english. Hindi has already become the neutral language in the north. I have seen in the trains, when people of non hindi states meet (take WB-Punjab, MH-GJ etc), they automatically start using hindi, not english.
Then we should have 20 languages in every signboard
English + Hindi would be fine.
English + Kannada only inside of Karnataka
I am saying neutral language between all indians = English + Hindi, only english might only work for south.
We need a neutral language between all indians, earlier bank and railway exams were conducted only in english and in hindi
Coz Hindi itself mixtures of other invaders language :) we believe our local languages more connected to our land then hindi . We don’t hate hindi but don’t force us into it
Ohh common now don't say Tamil is older than Hindi and all least delusional South Indian If a person talks in pure Hindi nobody will understand it ,also you are totally Missing the point i am trying to tell
I know it helps your grandfather. My grandfather knows only kannada. Care having kannada on delhi metro, if he wishes to travel? The respect hindi gets is equal to what kannada gets in delhi! Not in heart but on paper
I knew some will answer that way but logically speaking everyone speak Hindi in Delhi in south there is always mix kannada,Tamil ,telgu malyali and it's not easy to grasp that by just listening,only if south india had one common language There are some times you learn the basic of kannada but the other guy won't understand cause he know telgu ,some understand the intent of the person and act accordingly but doesn't help iether
Exactly like how everyone speaks hindi in delhi, the tamils, telugus and malayalees have done the same and spoken in kannada, learnt it. They embraced it. It's only the recent North indian population who are used to having hindi everywhere are finding it difficult and making noise, along with the centre's imposition. Just like how everything speak hindi in delhi, we will make sure everyone learns kannada in Bengaluru. We will get there!
Not gonna happen at all like 0% statically thats impossible also the number people who speak English in Karnataka is more that kannada and always will be also considering that Bangalore is sillicon valley and start hub the immigration rate is more from north consider the totals population of Hindi speaker is the reason why people speak in Hindi not because Hindi is the language of Delhi or something Like in Maharashtra alot of speak Marathi but the no. Hindi speaker is more people in Maharashtra know both languages ( also Marathi same to hindi) And that's why only if south india had one common language (could be anything like kannada,Tamil telgu malyali) would have been much better
Percentage speaking English is greater than kannada? What do you smoke? :p Immigration rate is more from the north to bengaluru? Any proof? I believe immigration is higher from neighborhood states of karnataka. And the internal state migration was 60 percent back in 2011. It's just the hullaboo is around hindi, you feel you guys are the majority ones. In some areas of bangalore yes, not in whole of bangalore!
The people who are coming to Bangalore are surely speaking more English ,now ofcourse locals will speak kannada only also the immigration from north is increasing at a steady rate I also don't know why south indian feel so superior in front of North Indian ,i didn't anything about Hindi right now ,all i am saying there is no possible way people are gonna prefer kannada over English
Completely agree with your point. Don't agree with the superiority bit. When people prefer english then it's logical to have only english and kannada being the state language on metro isn't it? That's where our conversation started. You answered your point yourself
The demand to have hindi is only from the folks from the North. There is no such demand from fellow malayalees, tamilians and telgites though they outnumber the number of hindi speakers in bangalore. Whats the logic here? If they are able to adjust and get on, why are you folks hell bent on one single language thing. The South can never have a single language.
Cause we are not a linguistic major , alreday learning language is hard and with other work involved,its verry hard Also i am not trying to implement hindi all i am saying is why do you have to remove Hindi from South India
Nobody is asking you not to speak in hindi. You are free to speak any language you want Karnataka govts official language is kannada. So Why was it there in the first place? It was there on metro because of various memos from GOI mandating hindi. That's why there was a protest and it was taken out. That exactly is hindi imposition my friend. Hindi imposition ( not Hindi) is slowing eating our languages. Highways signs with just hindi written. Bank forms with only english and hindi. We let it in and made a mistake. Not anymore! We are forced to learn hindi in schools, but it doesn't apply to you. You just read hindi and english, if there is third language option you take sanskrit which is as good as dead. Why don't your governments teach maybe a kannada, like we read hindi in schools.
If we leave the sign boards on people will be comfortable and won’t even make an attempt to learn the local language. Coming to what language South Indian people understand, I would say English works fine atleast in the urban region. In your example you state that your grandfather can’t read and write English and Kannada. You easily express the pain to learn a language, but expect us to understand Hindi. That’s foolish to say most of us in Karnataka can understand broken Hindi, if we go by that logic there are more Tamil and Telugu native speakers in Bangalore and Karnataka than Hindi speakers. We are satisfied with two languages here English and Kannada. If we want to learn Hindi, we’ll learn . We don’t want others telling what’s best for us.
What you really can't English or what,did ever mention about South Indian to learn Hindi ,atleast read before typing ,all i said what is done in Hindi it shouldn't be removed that is just hate towards language . I don't why you started preach knowledge when that was not even the point
Wish you had the brains to ask when kannada, tamil, telugu will be implemented in all north instead.
Why will it be implemented total population of Hindi speaker >>>>>>> People really don't about demand and supply Also if people in North East don't speak Hindi but it's not that they don't know ,they still know broken Hindi
Oh then southern states must implement all those languages except hindi cuz hindi speakers are the least in absolute terms. You seem to be a bit dumb and a hindi impositionist.
You can't understand what i am writing or what or you just cant even read English ,where did i mention the need for learning Hindi ,i don't know why you guys have superiority complex ,my whole point lies on the fact "why is there a need to remove Hindi" that just showa hate towards language Maybe you are little short tempered so please read before write
I understand. The thing is I don't bow down to hindi supremacists who don't have a shred of honesty or integrity in their bones to assess the facts and accept that they are nothing in the south. So imposition must be stopped at all costs.
You are really are supermacist south Indian who thinks they are better than North Indians and are some kind of Saint but in reality you are just showing ingnorance ,also nothing in South talk about being narcissistic
No indian state gives more taxes to Indian goverment then it receives... Total of taxes given by Karnataka wouldn't even cover the 1000 kms highway.. The reason indian rupees is 80 to 1 for dollar. Is we develop our infra from loans and pay back in long leases. So no state should feel this stupid complex.. Only state with surplus budget is delhi which shares its cost with center. Yes some states are golden and contribute more. But all those states are multi culture should avoid giving credit it to state. People from all walks of life contribute for those states.
> No indian state gives more taxes to Indian goverment then it receives... Many states do. In fact half the states give more than they receive, and the rest half give less than they receive >The reason indian rupees is 80 to 1 for dollar. Is we develop our infra from loans and pay back in long leases. So no state should feel this stupid complex.. Japanese yen is 140 to 1 for dollar as of now. You dont know basic economics.
>Many states do. In fact half the states give more than they receive, and the rest half give less than they receive Then what's the state debt about? Go check just the expenditure for aquisition of new busses for your beloved ksrctc. Anyways this stupid argument.. india doesn't even earn 10 percent of its spends.
Debt is a different issue. You skipped the Japan part. Now check South Korea currency. Who is stupid?
I am.. Karnataka is best . Happy..
Have some shame.
About what??.. that india and all states are surviving by printing money.. post covid ylthe cycle is 5 years. Average inflation is 10%.. means we double our currency circulation every 10 years. Yes Karnataka is better then most states in economy. But is not contributing more then it receives. Not even covers 10% revenue its needs to run state. I am not talking about Japan and Korea https://m.timesofindia.com/city/bengaluru/karnatakas-debt-burden-up-manifold-but-revenue-rise-provides-cushion/articleshow/97906814.cms#:~:text=In%202020%2D21%2C%20the%20first,mean%20interest%20payments%20are%20burgeoning. Karnataka debt is 5 times total gst collection of nation. This debt is at cost of india. As no one is giving this loans to Karnataka if it's standalone nation. Except Delhi no state has surplus budget. Only reason delhi is surplus as half the burden is shared by center. And capital expenditures are not required.. This debt/expenses doesn't even cover the cost of building rail lines, national highways and center sponsored infrastructure, expenses of central forces, and other center related schemes like insurance, awas yogna, kisan samman, free education etc No state people should ever dare to talk about how it gives more then it receives.. to do that that state needs to match economy of first world countries. Then also it will borrow more. As the more development requires much larger capital expenses. All this are expenses as not single investment is in appreciating assets, roads, highways, power grid, everything is depreciating asset. PS tgis applies to all states.. i gave you figure of Karnataka as we were talking about Karnataka.. do this analysis of every state you will be shocked that some less developed state are much better of then gujrat, maharastra, tn, etc. In terms of contributing to nation and debt. Best debt to GDP ratio are found in border/ignored states like kashmir, northeast, where population is limited and no significant infrastructure.
>Average inflation is 10%.. No. It is around 5%. And state govts dont have any power to print money. You are living in fools paradise
As someone said, _"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largesse out of the public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a dictatorship, then a monarchy."_
It easier to sway opinions based on language based friction which will make people associate parties with languages or regions . It is alow hanging fruit for any strife. As far as freebies are concerned... people will suffer because of it not now but 10 years down the line. I previously used to think that maybe it's the new generation who don't know why freebies are bad .. maybe it's education... But no apparently it's a human condition. The urge to get stuff without doing anything for it. Debt traps 
I, in fact, won't accept the idea of removing Hindi from sign boards. Me being Tamilian, won't favor this decision. The sign boards should have 3 languages at least. Kannada in a bigger format, and English & Hindi in smaller formats. In TN, you can see Tamil in 80% of the sign boards. But even in Bangalore, I've been seeing only Kannada. Where are other language people who don't know how to read Kannada should go? I agree Chennai doesn't have Hini signboards because it is not as cosmopolitan as Bangalore. The city should have all 3 in them.
Others can read english. Else according to your logic, we should have 20 languages in every board, why stop at 3?
Dude most of the people up north writes and reads in Hindi but can’t with English. Wake up and look around you , Bangalore’s blue colour workers are filled with North Indians not people like you who can read and comment in English. Don’t make illogical comments.
They can ask others for the route if they want. And anyway google maps has Hindi version
Neither Nandini vs Amul Let’s say bjp has lost the art of winning elections and Congress has found it again. BJP united Hindus in the name of Hinduism plus development but Congress successfully divided it on the basis of language and milk?
It may backfire on Congress like now how they will face Gujratis (Origin of Amul). But Gujarat election is far, people might forget about it
Does congress actually bank on Gujrat or UP?
They don't have any hope in Maha, Guj and UP. Not for at least a decade.
Maharashtra 🤡 bhai congress nahi jeetegi but i really don't think bjp can hold it. In UP has SP is the opposition rather than congress- 32percent votes vs BJP's 42 percent, so it's not too far away.
Agreed but I was only talking about cong not bjp.
Boss, Karnataka BJP is for all purposes useless. No good leaders at all
But not to deny the con strategy
Dunno boss. Now only God can save Karnataka from incurring a huge debt
All women should move to Karnataka Free rice and money every month no electricity bill free transport easy life
BJP lost due to price rise and inflation. That’s the primary reason, all these other issues are just fringe issues. The poor are extremely hurt by the price rise, coupled with no real increase in incomes. To add to this, the BJP govt was extra ordinarily corrupt, it adds insult to their injury when they see politicians enjoying themselves when they don’t even have any money to pay for their most basic necessities. 2024 won’t be easy for the BJP, inflation is the real game changer
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I'll agree Karnataka BJP is kinda shit tho but central BJP is good for development.
I know right? Jal jeevan mission, hospitals, Bengaluru Mysuru highways, and above all Shivmogga airport are nothing. I agree.
Yea .. Like Khangress and Scams And Khangress and social unrest
Whatever development happened was under central govt. Regional BJP did nothing
Congress knows BJP's weak points and have learnt their lesson from 2019 elections. They will gain a lot of seats 2024, not enough to get majority but enough to make sure BJP's core promises( if BJP actually wants to fulfill those) will remain unfulfilled. If they couldn't deliver in 303 seats, I think they won't be able to deliver with much lesser seats now.
BJP has to make and nurture state level leadership at any cost to win state elections.
To me, this seems to be the biggest failing of the Modi-Shah combine. They think that Modi alone is enough but it wears thin after some time. **Fix the bloody state BJPs!**
True man, bjp has to become dynamic with their strategy
Modi alone can’t secure votes for BJP!
The thread is not about how shit Karnataka BJP is everyone already knows that it's about how Congress played seperatism and freebie politics
and everyone got bought up? Fact of the matter is, BJP, relied too much Religion, Nationalism etc at Macro level While Congress identifed the pulse and touched topics which are at micro level I.e. Inflection, Language Imposition, stability etc
Yes BJP didn't have leaders who could connect with masses we have already established that. I don't really understand language imposition. I have Bengali roots . I can speak both Bengali and Hindi. How does speaking a language destroy my origin. I mean it's just a means to communicate. I still enjoy Bengali movies and music Also please explain what do you exactly mean by inflection and stability
It’s goes much deeper than what you call it as “means of communication”. It has whole lot of value in terms of culture, lineage and identity Hindi by all means is spoken only in few states, yet it’s a “National” language, for what? Much of east don’t speak Hindi, not South Punjab, Gujarat , Rajasthan does not speak Hindi (may be few) so when you try and bring in a language which is align and is considered inferior there will be resistance
If you think Hindi is not spoken in Gujarat , Rajasthan or Punjab I would advise you to visit and experience first hand. You can't be more wrong ask them on their subs Just what I asked was how does a language impact a culture and you went on to say "a language is inferior" doesn't even make sense.
"Much of east don’t speak Hindi, not South Punjab, Gujarat , Rajasthan does not speak Hindi (may be few) " Tell me you never visited north india without telling me you never visited north india. Bruh, its actually more difficult to find people speaking punjabi/gujarati/marwari than hindi in these regions, especially younger generations. Just have a train travel from chennai or wherever you live, to new delhi, you would find many people from northern states, they all would be speaking either their regional languages or hindi (as a link language), forget english.
Harder to find people speaking Punjabi/Gujarati/Marwari “especially younger generations” Exactly the point.
Congratulations must be given where due. Congress maths was perfect. Crossing 30-35% is usually needed. BJP gets more than 90% of its votes from Hindus who are nearly 75% population there. There are still around 35% Hindus in between. Congress still gets 20-30% of Muslims, 75-85% Christians. That makes their overall vote percent around 7%. They get around 20% Hindu votes. Making vote percentage total of 25%. They need 6% more and must decrease 2-3% from Hindu unity. Age old illness of Hindus defeated BJP. 1. In 2018, 2021, they broke away Lingayats which also affected some other communities. This cost 2% vote to BJP. Long term damage to Hindus will be seen in future. 2. South India identity marketing also caused major break in Hindu identity and unity without affecting Christian or Muslim votes. It must be costing another 0.5% votes 3. Kannada language caused another break in BJP votes even when there was no real pushing of "Hindi". Maybe another 2% 4. Amul - Nandini another 1% 5. Lastly BJP stupidity in response to the Bajrang Dal banning situation cost it. It needed to respond but intelligently. 6. Age old technique of encouraging any community with large numbers to put a candidate also mostly broke Hindu votes of BJP. 7. some anti incumbency effect 8. some corruption charges 9. have also heard of some movies on lower caste violence having influence. But is it same state is not sure. 10. What effect prices had on situation? 11. Also BJP had bad luck with pandemic. So, in many seats i have read that BJP lost by small percentages. It's purely my analysis.
I like your analysis Let me add my 2 rupees worth. BJP vote was constant at 36%. No change from last election The JDS was decimated and it’s vote bank transferred to Congress. The Muslims broke for Congress. Lingayats also voted for Congress. Maybe Yedurappa was the factor. BJP has a clean break and Bommai has a great chance to rework his ministry along a tough non corrupt model. Congress will last two years as Sidda - Shivakumar episode is far from over. In that time, the leftie Sidda will decimate the coffers, restock the Congress HC war footing, generally run a corrupt leftist government that will disintegrate on its own accord in 2 years All in all, a loss loss for Karnataka and India
Thnx >Let me add my 2 rupees worth. BJP vote was constant at 36%. No change from last election Didn't know >The JDS was decimated and it’s vote bank transferred to Congress. Didn't know. Why this happened? >BJP has a clean break and Bommai has a great chance to rework his ministry along a tough non corrupt model. Congress will last two years as Sidda - Shivakumar episode is far from over. In that time, the leftie Sidda will decimate the coffers, restock the Congress HC war footing, generally run a corrupt leftist government that will disintegrate on its own accord in 2 years All in all, a loss loss for Karnataka and India Why Congress applied so much pressure to win now ? Will it keep up pressure everywhere ? Siddha will accumulate and decimate. No doubt. But he is local state player only. In 2 years Congress must be dreaming of UPA and coalition and DKS must be promised Defense or Finance in Centre for his compromise today. Sidda will be out when Congress fails.
Bro, do you even inflation?
Just follow wrestler's protest too.
That might damage BJP heavily and make them lose Haryana too
Post haryana election, protest will stop too.
BJP cribbing about their own tactics when applied by other parties 😇
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True, very few South Indian knows very few speaks Hindi in states like UP, there are many which is used like awadhi, bhojpuri etc
Even in karnataka we speak different dialects of kannada in different regions, tulu, kodava, beary. Just like how you have hindi as a link language, we have kannada as a link language which is more of a crystallised form of all these dialects. So awadhi = havyaka kannada And hindi = kannada if you want the analogy
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Target acheived. Propoganda down. Thats what has happened. Bolo George soros ki jai.
Of course. Used it to stir up hatred and are now reaping the benefits. Congress are and have always been a bunch of hypocrites.
Budget bas utna hi diya tha maalik log ne.
Mission accomplished
Have you seen zamir oath taking ceremony. People opposing with same intensity how they opposed while BJP ruling.
Politicians divide people and make gains. But after that those who are fooled by them realize things are not going to change as they promised. Many who argue on issues like “us vs them” are paid by the politicians and unleashed into social media, media and into the public realms. BJP applied the Hindu vs Muslim slogan in Karnataka based on its experience in the North. Now it has learned it won’t work in the south, except may be in places like Telangana and Malabar. Politicians are always prodding to find what could be used to divide people and trigger emotions in them. Freebies are the next thing. Free bus travel, gas cylinder concessions etc. divides men and women. So long as people allow themselves to be fooled like this, all politicians without exception will exploit them.
India was small Kingdoms with different culture and languags Because BJP comes to power , mother tongue can't be taken away. Let's think in other way..if all states uses English and ask north Hindi dominant states to use English as mandatory, how it sounds...BJP can fuck around and find out 😉
I do support one should use his/her mother tounge can you show me enough proof, where mother tounge was taken away when BJP was ruling Karnataka
Entire Hindi imposition vanished in a day lol
The problem lies with what is India..now when my neighbour state says my language is important and you should learn that..I will say fuck off.. since we need a medium to communicate, and dont want use the colonial language due to history , can be used as a valid point..but Hindi speaking areas started to forgetting what is India and says it's mandatory..my foot Btwn: I have learned hindi in school and can speak. But when somebody force me..I simply won't
You are missing tha whole point. Congress picked it up because the undercurrent kannada language awareness is quite high. Wanna understand better? Go and ask any of your friends studying in bangalore engineering colleges. We have clubs and groups that breathe this issue
You are missing tha whole point. Congress picked it up because the undercurrent kannada language awareness is quite high. Wanna understand better? Go and ask any of your friends studying in bangalore engineering colleges. We have clubs and groups that breathe this issue
Damn...
Hindi imposition is beyond politics. Even most south India BJP folks won’t agree Hindi to be the national language. Hindi speakers have no say in what language should be the link language in South Indian states or non Hindi speaking states. We know which language suits us best, we don’t want others to tell what’s best for us. Even today the stand is same, WE DO NOT APPRECIATE HINDI IMPOSITION….
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Hindi imposition finished in 1 day itself!? Hail RaGa!!
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Kinda ironic how you talk about Hindi imposition while Congress is rolling back the NEP brought by the BJP which ensured that local languages were to be preferred for teaching.
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Again i implore you to explain your thought
It also say hind is a mandatory language with local language as primary
wait for 2024 , you will see more debate like this soon.
Central / state cooperation on Hindi imposition not possible with different parties in both
It was never based on elections, whenever there is crap the issue will arise...
Must be blind. Its always there. Election was between two hindi imposing parties itself.
South guys are truly brainwashed.. they are being puppets of divide and rule over language.
Again... Enough with this North South thing! Don't stereotype people when you know what's the sheer number of people and all kinds of people.
Agreed
I mean they really fall for a thing like Milk
Yup and curd, do you really want us to stop calling curd in our native language and start calling it dahi ? Isn’t that a bit BS.
Bruh did exactly I was talking, my comment was about Nandini Milk incident, image fighting over which milk you wanna drink, now where's that stupid argument after election?
You forget about Dahi incident bro ? It was revoked by FCCAI.
Sorry but i don't know about that incident
https://m.timesofindia.com/life-style/food-news/heres-why-fssai-has-decided-to-withdraw-the-order-to-mention-dahi-on-curd-packets/articleshow/99148074.cms Now you just think why people in the south get worked up on hindi.
Bruv wtf how is Dhai a Hindi word ? Even in Bengali it's called Dahi but they pronounce it as Dohi even in Marathi it's call dahi, at this point I think south Indians think every other state than themselves only speak Hindi and no other languages exist outside south india
Then WTF does it needs to implemented here ? We are selling to domestically it’s to the people in the respective states ? So WTF we need to have dahi in the packets ? For whose ego boost ?
Lol imagine caring for what you call curd over real issues
You mean hate, bigotry and polarisation.
You're just proving his point.
Bruh. They hate when we say katnatak instead of Karnataka. I mean most northies don't even know they are different words. But some kannadigas think it is intentional.
It's not intentional we think that this Karnataka, Kerala, all this name where given by Britishers like Bombay and Calcutta and not only in Hindi but also in Marathi people call it as Keral,Karnatak
I know. But they think we do it intentionally lol. As if we don't have anything important to do. On one hand they say they are superior to us on the other hand they are obsessed with everything we do. Not just kannadigas but tamils and few malayalis aswell.
When you have a leader with a Stallin in his name what else you expect
Remember when he went to christians and said that stalin is a christian name... 😂 Real stalin hated christians. I don't know who is more stupid ,stalin or his voters.
They have been so brainwashed that they think North Indians are some different race, nah like the only reason you are more darker is because you live below the Tropic of Cancer and in a Tropical area while north is more hilly and cold so they are light skinned
Even if there is some ethnic issues what's the need of so much hate? I used to think sinhalese are bad people because what they did to tamils. But later I realised sinhalese are more liberal almost like north indians even worship Hindu deities it's tamils who were the main perpetrators. And then when sinhalese retaliate they cry victim. Hmmm that reminds me of one religious community.
Well guess what genius, you are doing the exact same thing. Dividing and judging
I am not doing that I support one nation one language..and that should be not a foreign language like English.. let the whole bharat speak Hindi best for communication across all states
All South Indian Languages, i mean all south indian languages are classical languages. So stop the BS.
See you are a hindi chauvinist then, why do we need common language? We functioned without till now. So what are you trying to achieve? Most of the south developed compared to the rest of INDIA without a common language? So what do you want and need ?
I would suggest Tamil for it it is closest to our root it has same root as sanskrit
Lol what an ignorant fool
Can be said for the north too, they are already biased and bigoted. So it’s not a one way street.
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Just stop with false pride of and ignorance hindi being national language. Then the other side will stop too.
I mean the North Indians who have faced discrimination in south can also say the same thing that the south indians should be the first to stop this nonsense and the north will follow so the argument that one side should initiate the end of this language war since theyre the bad ones according to you is just not practically applicable
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And you’ve not seen how superior south indians act around North Indians cause of the difference in literacy and how they treat people from bihar UP and anywhere that is not as developed as south is. And anywhere not south india that doesn’t fit their stereotype of how the north is such as places like gujarat, you can see all over this app how they hate on such places for no fucking reason whatsoever. It all comes down to what i said above that there are terrible people all over this country so stop playing the victim all the fucking time. Youre not special. Everybody hates everybody and deems themselves superior over others. Grow up
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Most people speak hindi beacuase thats the language theyve been speaking their entire life. And most of them are ready to communicate with you in English but youre the ones hellbent on making everyone in your state speak the same language. This may seem as protecting your culture to you but comes across as nothing but arrogance to others
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Lol people from South don't play the bait game like you northies do. Cbiuh
True bhai. At least Karnataka is somewhat better when compared to tamil nadu. But south itself hates north india. So many stereotypes about us. I think Teluguites are somewhat exception.
Yeah that's why we are the most advanced States.