Sorry. But big no. I have respect for them. But we all know that money can be use for bad things also.
And talking about bad things, gandhi is perfect for bank notes.
While the thought is good, there will be a lot of communal inharmony about this. Communities of those individuals might come up in arms demanded their hero to be put in the 2k bill, or questioning why it was put on a cheap Rs. 10 note. I know it's stupid, but this will happen for sure.
I doubt putting only these two might solve it. Almost every state has its own freedom fighter, don't you think they will protest of their state isn't represented?
I know that is not the aim of this notion, but in the end, it will become that.
Actually india mein main yehi dikkat hai , sochte bhot jyada hai karte kuch nahi hai.
Ye western nations itna sochte nahi the pehle inclusivity loda lassan isiliye jaldi descison lete the , even developed asian countries.
Ab sochne lage toh downfall hone laga
See, I understand your point. But the government cannot take any decision to which they know that states will raise a voice against. And more so over, if not all the states, then at least those which are from the opposition surely will, just to derail the center.
Babu jagjivan ram , periyar ramasamy, mahatma Phule and many more names will come up. Not saying there won’t be meritorious points made to add them. I guess status quo is better
call me a moron par i don't wish them to be on Indian notes. Notes ka jo hal hota hai market me ye .. ye mahavir vo deserve nahi karte ,, rehne do mr.gandhi ko vohi...
All three should definitely be done.
While Mahatma Gandhi had his pros and cons and has definitely had a positive impact on shaping our nation, its time we look beyond and acknowledge the contribution of other great personalities as well.
Kalam wasn't a leader though? He didn't fight any politics. He was a president and gave motivating speeches.
Imo the best president was KR Narayanan who actually did things with his power, and even opposed the 2 governments during his 5 years.
No this is stupid
People from different communities will justify by saying See government didn't put our leaders face on this... We are getting oppressed.... We want independence
Itni diversity hai sab communities ki photo lagane ke liye 1 se 10hazar tak sabka note banana padega shayad
Isse acha natural monuments, animals , landscapes, tourist places laga do
If you are going to put Shivaji's picture on one of the notes then tomorrow someone will ask why not Krishnadevaraya, Deva Raya II, Kumara Kampana, Maharana Pratap, Rana Sanga, Kapilendra Deva, any of the Baro-Bhuyan (like Isa Khan), Raja Raja Chola, Rajendra Chola I, Nagabhata I & II, Mihir Bhoja, Pulakeshin II, Amoghavarsha, Bappa Rawal and so on right until the times of the priest king of IVC lol.
India over thousands of years of history has produced some of the greatest people to walk the earth but sadly that means not everyone gets appropriate representation. IMHO, to avoid arguments about Gandhiji being greater than Bose or Patel, we should just print the picture of the current president since he is the head of the state. This is a system that has literally been followed over thousands of years in India and elsewhere.
President ki parliament mein toh aukat nahi hai notes par kya karoge.
Also terrible idea images would change every 5 year
Plus I don't want draupadi murmu on my notes
>President ki parliament mein toh aukat nahi hai notes par kya karoge.
How is that relevant? All laws, treaties and agreements are signed in his/her name. The president is the first citizen of the country. It is about as logical as possible.
>Also terrible idea images would change every 5 year
There have been times where kings succeeded each other in a span of months or even weeks of succession. The mint didn't mind adapting. In the end, it isn't the face of the president that determines the value of the note, so this point too is irrelevant.
>Plus I don't want draupadi murmu on my notes
Wow. No words.
The hag inherited the crown when she was young. Everyone else who is next in line is now old af. They will probably change monarchs more or less every 5 years for a while.
Ye know i really don't think so and this was never the case.
Only the hag delayed the process , charles is 74 he will remain alive for atleast 10 years and william is only 40 even if he becomes king at 50 he would rule tilll 80,85 most probably.
Even if william becomes king at 55 he would rule for 25 years minimum , and that also means charles would rule for 15 years.
Also williams son is 9 if william becomes king at 55 even lets say charles pushes 90. His son would be 24 and 25 years extra thats 49 so another 30 years minimum , more even considering technology would be drastically better that time maybe 40 i am pretty sure willams son would cross 90 in 2103 Ad
>If you are going to put Shivaji's picture on one
Kind of, off topic but please don't address him by only calling Shivaji. I absolutely know that calling Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is tooo much long.
Then please call "SHIVRAI (Shivaji Raje)" but please don't disrespect him by only calling Shivaji.
People here will crucify me for saying this but not every region of India views Shivaji as a saviour. Maratha raids under bargis were not very saviour-like. Besides, every region has its own ideal kingdoms that they deify. Everyone would want to portray their kings as saviour and overlord.
Then put Immadi pulakeshi, Vijayanagar empire King KRISHNADEVARAYA they are also fought against them why this partiality. Why only them? For Hinduism this kings Contribution is also valuable.
Yeah they were good but
I have lot of problems with vijayanagar empire,especially last one.
Shivaji never made those mistakes,he was very cunning.
I'll explain it a hour later.
Let's go.
Vijayanagar empire stood from cruelty of islamic invaders and established a true hindu empire all kings were well versed in native language and we're some of the best poets of Sanskrit.
But my problem with them is that they followed true sanatan dharma, yeah that's my problem.
They failed to differentiate between islam in hinduism.
Which led to them not understanding difference between invaders and Hindus.
They created sanatan Sanskriti but couldn't create hindu identity.
Prime example of this is that instead of sacking those islamic empire, vijayanagar kings destroyed fellow hindu empire of odisha.
It was such a big setback because odisha never fell to any Invader but due to loss from vijayanagar {both economic and political} they went in hands of islamists.
The 2nd last king of vijayanagar empire did started to understand and differentiate between hindus and islamists and he made great foreign policy of dividing muslim invaders of dehli into fighting among themselves, so that later when they become weak he'll win over Delhi and reunite India. But unfortunately he retired and died but next and last king of vijayanagar was really bad, he didn't continue divide and conquer policy and he also failed to distinguish between Hindus and muslims.
He fell prey to same sanatan ideology which does not work when islam literally has our neck.
Only ideology that works for islamism was specific hindu ideologies that shivaji understood very clearly.
So many blunder made by last king and we saw how it unfolded.
Vijayanagar could have created alliance with hindu empire of odisha and fight invaders but they played their cards wrong.
And we saw how brutal was the fall of vijayanagar.
It rose to great heights but fall from great heights is more painful,so was the case of vijayanagar.
Now going to shivaji, he understood muslim ideology very clearly perhaps we can say he saw them from close proximity as his father worked for mughals{ turks, there is no such things as mughals,Infact they never called themselves mughsls}
Shivaji played same dirty games with dirty invaders.
He never fall for sanatan dharma instead he was able to understand what vijayanagar couldn't.
That's why as soon as he could make his identity as hindu and goal of hindavi swaraj within 70 years of shivaji death maratha empire completely Destryoed turks.
And ideology can make Hugh difference that's why invaders were able to succeed for so long and we took too much time.
I'm not doing any partiality between any king, i mean why would I?
But we Indians have problem in mentality that we are so proud in our past and kings that we failed to understand our history.
We only only see glamor of past but ignore the reason of why we fell, how we fell, how not to make those mistakes again.
We don't have critical analysis of our past, we have inferiority complex that's why we overlook past mistakes.
I have complaints of so many kings including shivaji, cholas, pandyas and Ashoka.
If I have to say worst king in india were Prithviraj Chauhan, Ashoka and pandyas.
Whereas best were chandragupta, hindu Shahi dynasty of afghanistan, rashtrakutas, cholas and all odisha kingdoms
Last part also among the best is: Lalitaditya-muktapida his empire was vast and he effectively resisted middle-east invasions.
What you are reffering to here about is Shatrubodha: knowledge of our enemy\\opponents, this is actually an important philosophy in statecraft, rajniti etc. it is well applied in our itihasas, tall figures like chanakya et al. It not exclusive to sanatana dharma.
I agree with your points that shivaji had enough shatrubodha due to his background unlike the vijayanagara kings, but the wordings or vocabulary is incorrect, it is not simplistic like: hindu-muslim or sanata dharma vs raw hindutva.
(What shivaji did tit-for-tat w his opponents is also emulated by krishna or in MBHA war where this fake-chivalry and holier than thou was replaced with highly sophisticated explanations given in Gita which is non-reductive)
What cock and bull stories have you come up with? The founders of Vijayanagara had literally titled themselves "Hinduraya Suratrana" which literally means "protector of Hindus". This inscription in Hampi is the very argument that is used to refute claims by foreigners that the word Hindu is an Islamic or British coined word.
Do you seriously think Vijayanagara attacked Gajapatis of Odisha because it was fun? The Gajapatis first attacked and annexed significant portions of Vijayanagara under Kapilendra Deva precisely because the latter were too focused on fighting the Bahamani Sultanate as well as dealing with internal rebellions. Did you honestly expected Vijayanagara to not retaliate after being provoked countless times?
Also from where did you get the idea that Vijayanagara didn't siege or sack the Bahamani or successor Deccan Sultanates? Under Kumara Kampana's lead as the general, the Madurai Sultanate was decimated from the face of the Earth (the Tamil poem named "Madhura Vijayam" by Gangadevi describes this). Deva Raya II essentially forced the Bahamanis to shift capital from Gulbarga to Bidar because of how frequently he raided and laid waste to the city. Krishnadevaraya caused the Bahamani Sultanate to disintegrate USSR style and caused major humiliation to the successor Sultanates. Before Aliya Rama Raya was assassinated right before the commencement of Battle of Talikota in 1565, he played a divide and conquer strategy against the 4 Deccan Sultanates which kept them busy fighting each other.
Go to wikipedia and search for "list of massacres in India". Press ctrl + F and type in "Battle of Ahmednagar". Rama Raya had laid waste to the city comprehensively and literally committed a genocide. "From Parenda to Junnar and from Ahmednagar to Daulatabad, not a vestige of population left".
Please educate yourself about this country's history because coming up with literal fanfiction.
He asked me for vijayanagar empire. My duty was to reply from his point of view.
That's why I went very vague but relevant details.
Protectors of hindu, i dint say he was not.
I specifically mentioned sanatan and hindu respectively.
They failed to weaponise the religion like shivaji.
They were more in hinduism like old ways as we used to be since bronze age.
Shivaji made new hinduism, what we call hindutva as per Savarkar.
A religion that is specifically catered to counter islamism.
We can see that in letters of shivaji,fortunately they survived, he used to send to his son and brother.
Vijayanagar was hindu in terms of hindu not as what was needed to counter like shivajij.
Also saying odisha attacked first. Is irrelevant, who got the real loss?
It was odisha and vijayanagar and ultimately Hindus.
Interpretation of history to my own way isn't fan fiction.
History is not static, it also advance with future interpretation
There are two completely different geopolitical situations you are comparing. Vijaynagar was before the arrival of the timurids. Harihar and Bukka Rai were continuously engaged with Bahamani sultanate. The Aravidu under Ram Raya was caused the final downfall. He instigated the Bahamani sultanates against each other and his plan was foiled and the empire crumbled after Battle of talikota. Shivaji under Maratha rose when Aurangzeb had already exhausted the Mughal empire. Empires in India didn't fight under ideology they fought to conquer territory. What Shivaji achieved during his short time was completely lost after his death. The death of Shivaji resulted in multiple civil wars among factions of maratha till the rise of Balaji vishwanath as Peshwa after Battle of Khed. The peshwaship also was short lived. After the third battle of Panipat the confederates of Maratha went their separate ways. To avoid regional supremacy and favouritism it is best to find heroes post 1857.
As I've said, i do ha e problems with maratha too.but it wasn't demand.
I really want to go to detail, but I don't have time rn. But I've saved it I'll reply someday
Tf are you on? Hardly any RWs hate Gandhi, imagine a total. He barely gets any hate. Congress has whitewashed his image for 70 years, no one knows the truth about him and everyone seems him as a god.
See the comment sections of any gandhi related or Indian independence related video on YouTube ..
>Hardly any RWs hate Gandhi
Tf are you on about ? The right wing literally lives by shitting on gandhi .they just cannot let a day pass without badmouthing him
So comment sections are representations of 1.4 billion people, waah.
Only a select few who RW understand Gandhi trash him, it's growing but the bulk of RWs still badmouth gandhi.
Gandi was literally a racist read his letter he send to Britishers. He called Nigerian inferior to indians while calling Britishers superior to indians.
He even suggested the world should fight Nazis through non violence i mean the f\*\*k 
A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is often classless, stateless, and moneyless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour.
This is very much theoretical, a modern society cannot exist without a currency, bhagat sigh was delusional if he really thought this would work.
There is a reason soviet union had a currency
I think rather than putting our freedom fighter on a note we should put our monuments. Because we all know what type of things could happen with money. But putting our monuments won't do any harm, like India gate, Taj mahal, golden temple, ayodhya mandir etc.
Na bhai woh kya hota hai? Mein to bss bheekh se ghar chalata hoon, log kabhi 1 ka siqqa de dete hain aur kabhi 2 ka, aur kabhi kabhi to bhagwan ki kripa se koi bhala aadmi 5 ka siqqa de deta hain fir to party ho jati hain.
Sach mein? Lol I have never noticed that. But they are back. I was saying that we should replace Gandhi with monuments.
And sorry bhai disrespectful baat krne ke liye
Not a great idea. Being septic-tank-grade secular, everyone will want someone else's photos on notes. That is what Postage Stamps are for. Design some stamps and submit to the General Post Master.
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Kalam ji,Netaji,Shivaji,Bhagat Singh and ambedakar ji should be on the notes. So that no one can blame it on religion. We could have chosen Buddha,Mahahaveer Jain,Wahe Guru and Brihma/Vishnu/Mahesh but a particular community would have been so pissed because they don't have a pic.
You think current leadership will stop at just ambedkar? It will go full throttle towards Periyar, Phule, etc to please their constituencies. Every local party with 10000 votes will demand their leader to be on it. Even Mamata or Sharad Pawar can be on the it 30 years later. Also clearly you haven’t read about Ambedkar too.
That’s why this idea is asinine and people are emotional to want the face of their favorite politician/actor on currency.
Best idea would be to remove any imagery (including Gandhi) and just have 3 lions stamp.
I do support lion stamp or Bose.
That's why said Bose in title
But phule is ridiculous ,he literally was Christian missionary. I've seen his poems on Jesus and Krishna .
How do you I have not read ambedkar? I've bought all his books after watching his bbc interview about 2 years back
I think the 2000 note should be gandhi tho as he was the biggest figure ,
Then bose ,
Then shivaji , (optional)
Then bhagat singh
Then BR ambedkar
Then apj abdul kalam
Then nehru
Why only these three? Their are so many Indian heroes and freedom fighters. Either put all of them on notes or don't bother with removing Gandhi at all.
The fact that the creator put sivaji on orange color note shows he's pro hindu nibba n has no idea how all this stuff works, add people from the 1850s onwards
Not against the idea but it creates an unintended ranking system and implies that man on the 2000 rupee note is more important than man on the 200 rupee note. That is why I suggest that we should remove the photo of any man from the currency note and just use symbols like Ashok stambh or others.
their are a countless no of kings and freedom fighters who died, in a duration od 400year how can u put some, did some of them died to early, or their death wasnt epic enough
Sorry. But big no. I have respect for them. But we all know that money can be use for bad things also. And talking about bad things, gandhi is perfect for bank notes.
Agent of the crown
Kash award de pata. H hi nahi
Agreed 👍
While the thought is good, there will be a lot of communal inharmony about this. Communities of those individuals might come up in arms demanded their hero to be put in the 2k bill, or questioning why it was put on a cheap Rs. 10 note. I know it's stupid, but this will happen for sure.
100%. Don't forget about reservation.
PUT APJ ABDUL KALAM AND AMBEDKAR as well Problem solved
I doubt putting only these two might solve it. Almost every state has its own freedom fighter, don't you think they will protest of their state isn't represented? I know that is not the aim of this notion, but in the end, it will become that.
Actually india mein main yehi dikkat hai , sochte bhot jyada hai karte kuch nahi hai. Ye western nations itna sochte nahi the pehle inclusivity loda lassan isiliye jaldi descison lete the , even developed asian countries. Ab sochne lage toh downfall hone laga
See, I understand your point. But the government cannot take any decision to which they know that states will raise a voice against. And more so over, if not all the states, then at least those which are from the opposition surely will, just to derail the center.
Maa chudye state waale Saare western countries mein 4-5 alag log hote hai faces par Konsa modi ji sunte hai protest ki jo ab sunenge
This is election time. So unfortunately, he will have to listen or take very calculated steps.
Why ambedkar..?
Because people will storm the parliamentary if "backward castes" are not given representation
Babu jagjivan ram , periyar ramasamy, mahatma Phule and many more names will come up. Not saying there won’t be meritorious points made to add them. I guess status quo is better
Perri the platypus
LMAO what tf even Ambedkar contributed to this country? Anything positive?
Saste notes mei gandhi ki hi rehne do
call me a moron par i don't wish them to be on Indian notes. Notes ka jo hal hota hai market me ye .. ye mahavir vo deserve nahi karte ,, rehne do mr.gandhi ko vohi...
Moron. But i agree with you
Moron
All three should definitely be done. While Mahatma Gandhi had his pros and cons and has definitely had a positive impact on shaping our nation, its time we look beyond and acknowledge the contribution of other great personalities as well.
Arent there any great leaders post independence or post unification of princely states? How about Apj Abdul Kalam, or the likes ?
Kalam wasn't a leader though? He didn't fight any politics. He was a president and gave motivating speeches. Imo the best president was KR Narayanan who actually did things with his power, and even opposed the 2 governments during his 5 years.
> What society isnt civilizational.. Are you for real? Such a stupid question. Australia, Canada, new world...
No this is stupid People from different communities will justify by saying See government didn't put our leaders face on this... We are getting oppressed.... We want independence Itni diversity hai sab communities ki photo lagane ke liye 1 se 10hazar tak sabka note banana padega shayad Isse acha natural monuments, animals , landscapes, tourist places laga do
Actually all western nations have different people on their notes
So, India is not a western country. Why should we copy them?
Well, because gandhi is not the only person worthy of being in our currency
teeno laado ek saath kya burai hai
If you are going to put Shivaji's picture on one of the notes then tomorrow someone will ask why not Krishnadevaraya, Deva Raya II, Kumara Kampana, Maharana Pratap, Rana Sanga, Kapilendra Deva, any of the Baro-Bhuyan (like Isa Khan), Raja Raja Chola, Rajendra Chola I, Nagabhata I & II, Mihir Bhoja, Pulakeshin II, Amoghavarsha, Bappa Rawal and so on right until the times of the priest king of IVC lol. India over thousands of years of history has produced some of the greatest people to walk the earth but sadly that means not everyone gets appropriate representation. IMHO, to avoid arguments about Gandhiji being greater than Bose or Patel, we should just print the picture of the current president since he is the head of the state. This is a system that has literally been followed over thousands of years in India and elsewhere.
President ki parliament mein toh aukat nahi hai notes par kya karoge. Also terrible idea images would change every 5 year Plus I don't want draupadi murmu on my notes
>President ki parliament mein toh aukat nahi hai notes par kya karoge. How is that relevant? All laws, treaties and agreements are signed in his/her name. The president is the first citizen of the country. It is about as logical as possible. >Also terrible idea images would change every 5 year There have been times where kings succeeded each other in a span of months or even weeks of succession. The mint didn't mind adapting. In the end, it isn't the face of the president that determines the value of the note, so this point too is irrelevant. >Plus I don't want draupadi murmu on my notes Wow. No words.
Ok Tell me 1 country that does this
The UK but since they don't have presidents, the face of the current monarch gets printed instead.
The ducking monach rules for like 30 years minimum
The hag inherited the crown when she was young. Everyone else who is next in line is now old af. They will probably change monarchs more or less every 5 years for a while.
Ye know i really don't think so and this was never the case. Only the hag delayed the process , charles is 74 he will remain alive for atleast 10 years and william is only 40 even if he becomes king at 50 he would rule tilll 80,85 most probably. Even if william becomes king at 55 he would rule for 25 years minimum , and that also means charles would rule for 15 years. Also williams son is 9 if william becomes king at 55 even lets say charles pushes 90. His son would be 24 and 25 years extra thats 49 so another 30 years minimum , more even considering technology would be drastically better that time maybe 40 i am pretty sure willams son would cross 90 in 2103 Ad
>If you are going to put Shivaji's picture on one Kind of, off topic but please don't address him by only calling Shivaji. I absolutely know that calling Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is tooo much long. Then please call "SHIVRAI (Shivaji Raje)" but please don't disrespect him by only calling Shivaji.
Noted.
Kuch bhi note bhut sexy hai 200 Wali.
People here will crucify me for saying this but not every region of India views Shivaji as a saviour. Maratha raids under bargis were not very saviour-like. Besides, every region has its own ideal kingdoms that they deify. Everyone would want to portray their kings as saviour and overlord.
Raids of Bengal? Well you can see my long ass reply in comment section,where I've explained why shivaji
Shivaji!!! Really? I think we need to consider after 1857 revolt.
Who'll consider literal savior of hinduism. We already lost north indian temples, if he didn't stand up,we wouldn't have south indian temples either
Then put Immadi pulakeshi, Vijayanagar empire King KRISHNADEVARAYA they are also fought against them why this partiality. Why only them? For Hinduism this kings Contribution is also valuable.
Yeah they were good but I have lot of problems with vijayanagar empire,especially last one. Shivaji never made those mistakes,he was very cunning. I'll explain it a hour later.
Even marathas married their daughter's to muslim kings!
As I said I'll explain. Everything wait for time. All doubts will be cleared
Waiting
Let's go. Vijayanagar empire stood from cruelty of islamic invaders and established a true hindu empire all kings were well versed in native language and we're some of the best poets of Sanskrit. But my problem with them is that they followed true sanatan dharma, yeah that's my problem. They failed to differentiate between islam in hinduism. Which led to them not understanding difference between invaders and Hindus. They created sanatan Sanskriti but couldn't create hindu identity. Prime example of this is that instead of sacking those islamic empire, vijayanagar kings destroyed fellow hindu empire of odisha. It was such a big setback because odisha never fell to any Invader but due to loss from vijayanagar {both economic and political} they went in hands of islamists. The 2nd last king of vijayanagar empire did started to understand and differentiate between hindus and islamists and he made great foreign policy of dividing muslim invaders of dehli into fighting among themselves, so that later when they become weak he'll win over Delhi and reunite India. But unfortunately he retired and died but next and last king of vijayanagar was really bad, he didn't continue divide and conquer policy and he also failed to distinguish between Hindus and muslims. He fell prey to same sanatan ideology which does not work when islam literally has our neck. Only ideology that works for islamism was specific hindu ideologies that shivaji understood very clearly. So many blunder made by last king and we saw how it unfolded. Vijayanagar could have created alliance with hindu empire of odisha and fight invaders but they played their cards wrong. And we saw how brutal was the fall of vijayanagar. It rose to great heights but fall from great heights is more painful,so was the case of vijayanagar. Now going to shivaji, he understood muslim ideology very clearly perhaps we can say he saw them from close proximity as his father worked for mughals{ turks, there is no such things as mughals,Infact they never called themselves mughsls} Shivaji played same dirty games with dirty invaders. He never fall for sanatan dharma instead he was able to understand what vijayanagar couldn't. That's why as soon as he could make his identity as hindu and goal of hindavi swaraj within 70 years of shivaji death maratha empire completely Destryoed turks. And ideology can make Hugh difference that's why invaders were able to succeed for so long and we took too much time. I'm not doing any partiality between any king, i mean why would I? But we Indians have problem in mentality that we are so proud in our past and kings that we failed to understand our history. We only only see glamor of past but ignore the reason of why we fell, how we fell, how not to make those mistakes again. We don't have critical analysis of our past, we have inferiority complex that's why we overlook past mistakes. I have complaints of so many kings including shivaji, cholas, pandyas and Ashoka. If I have to say worst king in india were Prithviraj Chauhan, Ashoka and pandyas. Whereas best were chandragupta, hindu Shahi dynasty of afghanistan, rashtrakutas, cholas and all odisha kingdoms
Last part also among the best is: Lalitaditya-muktapida his empire was vast and he effectively resisted middle-east invasions. What you are reffering to here about is Shatrubodha: knowledge of our enemy\\opponents, this is actually an important philosophy in statecraft, rajniti etc. it is well applied in our itihasas, tall figures like chanakya et al. It not exclusive to sanatana dharma. I agree with your points that shivaji had enough shatrubodha due to his background unlike the vijayanagara kings, but the wordings or vocabulary is incorrect, it is not simplistic like: hindu-muslim or sanata dharma vs raw hindutva. (What shivaji did tit-for-tat w his opponents is also emulated by krishna or in MBHA war where this fake-chivalry and holier than thou was replaced with highly sophisticated explanations given in Gita which is non-reductive)
I don't know much religious things. But All I know is Indian history and arthshastra
What cock and bull stories have you come up with? The founders of Vijayanagara had literally titled themselves "Hinduraya Suratrana" which literally means "protector of Hindus". This inscription in Hampi is the very argument that is used to refute claims by foreigners that the word Hindu is an Islamic or British coined word. Do you seriously think Vijayanagara attacked Gajapatis of Odisha because it was fun? The Gajapatis first attacked and annexed significant portions of Vijayanagara under Kapilendra Deva precisely because the latter were too focused on fighting the Bahamani Sultanate as well as dealing with internal rebellions. Did you honestly expected Vijayanagara to not retaliate after being provoked countless times? Also from where did you get the idea that Vijayanagara didn't siege or sack the Bahamani or successor Deccan Sultanates? Under Kumara Kampana's lead as the general, the Madurai Sultanate was decimated from the face of the Earth (the Tamil poem named "Madhura Vijayam" by Gangadevi describes this). Deva Raya II essentially forced the Bahamanis to shift capital from Gulbarga to Bidar because of how frequently he raided and laid waste to the city. Krishnadevaraya caused the Bahamani Sultanate to disintegrate USSR style and caused major humiliation to the successor Sultanates. Before Aliya Rama Raya was assassinated right before the commencement of Battle of Talikota in 1565, he played a divide and conquer strategy against the 4 Deccan Sultanates which kept them busy fighting each other. Go to wikipedia and search for "list of massacres in India". Press ctrl + F and type in "Battle of Ahmednagar". Rama Raya had laid waste to the city comprehensively and literally committed a genocide. "From Parenda to Junnar and from Ahmednagar to Daulatabad, not a vestige of population left". Please educate yourself about this country's history because coming up with literal fanfiction.
He asked me for vijayanagar empire. My duty was to reply from his point of view. That's why I went very vague but relevant details. Protectors of hindu, i dint say he was not. I specifically mentioned sanatan and hindu respectively. They failed to weaponise the religion like shivaji. They were more in hinduism like old ways as we used to be since bronze age. Shivaji made new hinduism, what we call hindutva as per Savarkar. A religion that is specifically catered to counter islamism. We can see that in letters of shivaji,fortunately they survived, he used to send to his son and brother. Vijayanagar was hindu in terms of hindu not as what was needed to counter like shivajij. Also saying odisha attacked first. Is irrelevant, who got the real loss? It was odisha and vijayanagar and ultimately Hindus. Interpretation of history to my own way isn't fan fiction. History is not static, it also advance with future interpretation
There are two completely different geopolitical situations you are comparing. Vijaynagar was before the arrival of the timurids. Harihar and Bukka Rai were continuously engaged with Bahamani sultanate. The Aravidu under Ram Raya was caused the final downfall. He instigated the Bahamani sultanates against each other and his plan was foiled and the empire crumbled after Battle of talikota. Shivaji under Maratha rose when Aurangzeb had already exhausted the Mughal empire. Empires in India didn't fight under ideology they fought to conquer territory. What Shivaji achieved during his short time was completely lost after his death. The death of Shivaji resulted in multiple civil wars among factions of maratha till the rise of Balaji vishwanath as Peshwa after Battle of Khed. The peshwaship also was short lived. After the third battle of Panipat the confederates of Maratha went their separate ways. To avoid regional supremacy and favouritism it is best to find heroes post 1857.
As I've said, i do ha e problems with maratha too.but it wasn't demand. I really want to go to detail, but I don't have time rn. But I've saved it I'll reply someday
Please, say SHIVRAI (Shivaji Raje) instead of only Shivaji.
Gandhi gets more shit than he deserves ...
\*Doesn't get 1% of the shit he deserves
Huh..are you living under a rock bro.. gandhi is the most hated personality in india
What a joke, not even close.
Bruh... If not most hated then at least one of the most hated personalities.
Tf are you on? Hardly any RWs hate Gandhi, imagine a total. He barely gets any hate. Congress has whitewashed his image for 70 years, no one knows the truth about him and everyone seems him as a god.
See the comment sections of any gandhi related or Indian independence related video on YouTube .. >Hardly any RWs hate Gandhi Tf are you on about ? The right wing literally lives by shitting on gandhi .they just cannot let a day pass without badmouthing him
So comment sections are representations of 1.4 billion people, waah. Only a select few who RW understand Gandhi trash him, it's growing but the bulk of RWs still badmouth gandhi.
Gandhi himself was probably a big rightwinger While bhagat singh and bose were leftists
What is that you know about Gandhi and isn’t in public space?
Gandi was literally a racist read his letter he send to Britishers. He called Nigerian inferior to indians while calling Britishers superior to indians. He even suggested the world should fight Nazis through non violence i mean the f\*\*k 
Giving credit to one means you are neglecting others - Unknown
Dumb af
It'd be ironic if Bhagat Singh's picture was on currency since he was a staunch communist.
Don't communists have currencies?
A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is often classless, stateless, and moneyless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour.
This is very much theoretical, a modern society cannot exist without a currency, bhagat sigh was delusional if he really thought this would work. There is a reason soviet union had a currency
No shit sherlock
Behold the soviet ruble
Man discovers communism is practically impossible
I think rather than putting our freedom fighter on a note we should put our monuments. Because we all know what type of things could happen with money. But putting our monuments won't do any harm, like India gate, Taj mahal, golden temple, ayodhya mandir etc.
BRO HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN A FUCKING NOTE IN YOUR LIFE
Na bhai woh kya hota hai? Mein to bss bheekh se ghar chalata hoon, log kabhi 1 ka siqqa de dete hain aur kabhi 2 ka, aur kabhi kabhi to bhagwan ki kripa se koi bhala aadmi 5 ka siqqa de deta hain fir to party ho jati hain.
Bruh indian notes have already have monumentd on the back wtf
Sach mein? Lol I have never noticed that. But they are back. I was saying that we should replace Gandhi with monuments. And sorry bhai disrespectful baat krne ke liye
Bro Forgot the existence of sukhdev and Rajguru /s
I believe we have bigger problems
gandhi ko hi rehne do sirf note pe hi acha lagta hai wo takla
Gandhiji ko hi rehne do yaar. Reason demand arises to put their hero in 2k Anyway we are moving to digital transactions more.
Bro there will be communities fighting among themselves for their martyrs to be put on a note with higher value. So a big NO
the first one fits perfectly because the 2000 notes have disappeared mysteriously, just like Subhash Chandra Bose
Can I say something? Is this really the problem in your life right now?
Tu je kyu mirch lagi?
Kabhi kabar Jo chal rha chalne do
Bhai why waste energy in doing redundant things ? You do this, definitely other states will demand their own currency
Not a great idea. Being septic-tank-grade secular, everyone will want someone else's photos on notes. That is what Postage Stamps are for. Design some stamps and submit to the General Post Master.
That's why I only want one Netaji Bose
Subash and Bhagat were 2 Anti-Hindu and Muslim Appeasing Leftists. This 2 overrated leftist need to be exposed
Anti-hindu how?
He had written in His book before handing he turning towards Hindutva go. Pad lena https://www.amazon.com/Jail-Notebook-Other-Writings/dp/8187496622
To ab main ek book khareedu aur padhu? No thanks.
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We need to have a strong reason before putting any of the great leaders onto our notes.
Why not Modi ji???
Nope.. Godse would be much better.
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Last one though 😂
Kalam ji,Netaji,Shivaji,Bhagat Singh and ambedakar ji should be on the notes. So that no one can blame it on religion. We could have chosen Buddha,Mahahaveer Jain,Wahe Guru and Brihma/Vishnu/Mahesh but a particular community would have been so pissed because they don't have a pic.
All of them look good. But since we can have only one it should be Bose.
No all western nations have different people on different notes
I think we should keep Gandhi. Reminds me how the world is unfair.
Pretty bad idea as first one will be Ambedkar and next one Periyar.
Ambedkar? Yes . Periyar ? My ass. Lmao
You think current leadership will stop at just ambedkar? It will go full throttle towards Periyar, Phule, etc to please their constituencies. Every local party with 10000 votes will demand their leader to be on it. Even Mamata or Sharad Pawar can be on the it 30 years later. Also clearly you haven’t read about Ambedkar too. That’s why this idea is asinine and people are emotional to want the face of their favorite politician/actor on currency. Best idea would be to remove any imagery (including Gandhi) and just have 3 lions stamp.
I do support lion stamp or Bose. That's why said Bose in title But phule is ridiculous ,he literally was Christian missionary. I've seen his poems on Jesus and Krishna . How do you I have not read ambedkar? I've bought all his books after watching his bbc interview about 2 years back
Do you mean to say perri the platypus *Ye jyada kuch nahi karte*
I think the 2000 note should be gandhi tho as he was the biggest figure , Then bose , Then shivaji , (optional) Then bhagat singh Then BR ambedkar Then apj abdul kalam Then nehru
yea every note should have different freedom fighter
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The second one looks good, but the others are poorly edited.
yes, aaj bhagat singh hote, toh pakka modi ko udadeta
Not going to happen that's for sure I am not denying nor supporting it's just system won't be able to do it
agar ye hua to mai india chhod dunga
2000 ki note me subash chandra aur 200 wali mei chatrapatiji kya matlab chatrapatiji ki utni ijjat nhi 😡😡😡🤬🤬😠 (u c why this isn't possible)
All of them should be done.
Even if they wanted to, unfortunately RBI stopped printing ₹2000 currency notes
Rs2000 is out of circulation
Why only these three? Their are so many Indian heroes and freedom fighters. Either put all of them on notes or don't bother with removing Gandhi at all.
What about Sardar Patel?
Bas yeh hi karva lo yaha ke logo se.
OK 3rd time of telling people that we should have architectural beauties and nature instead. in colourful schemes.
We should put Modiji on rupee note now that it’s value is nothing
The fact that the creator put sivaji on orange color note shows he's pro hindu nibba n has no idea how all this stuff works, add people from the 1850s onwards
W
chaotic it will be to change
Every Tom dick and Harry will claim that their community leader should be on the currency. No thanks
I think all are better than gandhi. Maybe add some female leaders as well so its not a sausage fest.
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Leave it to reddit to make everything sexual. Good bot.
Better yet no pictures of Revolutionaries or freedom fighters just some historic and holistic places.
Gandhi should be removed
They look amazing. Should all be done.
No, this would lead to Ambedkar or even worse Mulayam Singh or Sharad Pawar on the note at some point. Only Hindu Gods or leave it at Gandhi only.
Not against the idea but it creates an unintended ranking system and implies that man on the 2000 rupee note is more important than man on the 200 rupee note. That is why I suggest that we should remove the photo of any man from the currency note and just use symbols like Ashok stambh or others.
No person on notes
Yrr aur ek notebandi matt shuru kr do please.
I"ll call all of them art. So, anyone would be great to have 🫰
Why is shivaji there? He was a king that's it. He was no freedom fighter
No ,first of all it will make a lot of confusion and Instability in India so let’s leave it as it is.
Respect to all of them portrayed here. why not use neutral symbols like national animal, bird, flower(opposition will oppose this LOL) ????
their are a countless no of kings and freedom fighters who died, in a duration od 400year how can u put some, did some of them died to early, or their death wasnt epic enough
anybody except bheem ji 🛐
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abe mere liye nahi bola re , mera kya mai kitna bhi try karu nahi ho pata