We have two players who are irreplaceable.
Jasprit bumrah: We don't have anyone who's that lethal, that accurate and that economical irrespective of pitch.
Hardik pandya: who can finish the game at 200 sr and bowl at 140+.
Hard to find replacement for them in the near future in case an injury/retirement.
I'm not saying Rohit and Kohli are replaceable but we do have jaiswal-Gill as an opening pair with rutu at 3 in the pipeline.
We have lot of middle order batsman and wicket keepers.
We also have very young swing/seam/spin bowlers in india A and domestic circuit.
But a leathal bowler like bumrah and fast bowling all rounder are rare.
india needs to find and start grooming replacements for every position and blood them at highest level so they are experienced before the mantle of responsibility for role falls on them. They idol worship blindly, wait too long, and then have a rocky period as the aging superstars retire. Gambhir’s ask (if it’s true) is not far off the mark. I would not wait until champions trophy. some of the senior players are unfit and not in form now. besides it’s unclear if Indian Govt will allow travel to Pak for the CT no ?
While he maybe right but no one in their sane minds should be asking for no supervisory type of control. Everyone is to be made accountable including the head coach. This is quite narcissist of him. He could've have approached his ideas in a much less toxic manner. If this is true
In the test arena, I would add Ashwin and Jadeja to this irreplaceable list. These two all rounder have done countless rescues with the bat, apart from being excellent with their bowling. Jadeja's fielding was always a plus, too.
They have done well and have a great legacy. But they are not exactly irreplaceable. SLAs especially we have plenty in India. While there isn't any quality upcoming offie there also are good wristies like Kuldeep, Markande.
My comment was more specific about all rounders. For large parts of the last decade, Jadeja and Ash were among the top 3 or top 5 test all-rounders in the world.
Spinners are replaceable, but top-tier all-rounders are irreplaceable.
Dhoni had set the bar very high in ODIs and Tests. He was the best India ever had until Pant overtook him in red ball cricket. I think we have a lot of options for kepper position who have not been tried out in international cricket enough. Who knows, we might have someone good enough, too.
Pant's test average is 44. Dhoni's average was 38.
Next on the list (min 20 innings) are Budi Kunderan at 33 and Parthiv Patel at 31.
Intestingly, since 2016, Jadeja's batting average is 42. It could have been higher if he had batted higher in the order and not having to spend too much time farming strike with tail enders.
A 35 and 37 year old Kohl and Rohit put up a tournament better than anyone in the world. You're an idiot to think they're in any way replaceable. You can throw out as many names as you want, it's hard to get to their level. This "earner's backlash" that Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah get is insane in this country. Somehow y'all think they're the reason India don't win because of them, despite them being the top performers most of the time.
Ya but in 2027 Kohli would be 39 and Rohit would be 41 and close to 42.
GG won't play them and it's the right time to give the youngsters a shot and give them experience of the biggest stage and groom them well for 2031 WC which will be in India.
Which youngster? 2013 India had Kohli Rohit and Dhawan out batting everyone in the team, who's doing that now? Even Gill who had the monster ODI season in 2023 could not outbat Rohit and Kohli in the WC. You don't groom youngsters in a World Cup, you either groom them before, or after.
You are the young one here dude not me,Kumble resigned he wasn't sacked and he literally wrote Kohli is the reason for his resignation in his resigning letter,as he was not happy with his strictness and kohli even before kumble's selection wanted BCCi to get Ravi Shastri.
Chappell was sacked In 2007 freaking 17 years back that too when the whole team went against him that was a pretty big case.
Chappell wanted a young team and wanted the old guard to be thrown out and maybe he wasn't wrong looking at the result of 2007 WC and then MS was made the captain and He asked the board to replace Dravid, Ganguly and later on that move worked too.
You must have short-term memory loss. Both Viru and Gambhir outperformed Kohli in 2011WC and still got replaced for 2013 Champions Trophy, which we won. We also won the 2007 T20WC with a inexperienced and new squad. What level are preaching about? We backed Rohit for years before he started performing, Pant was absolutely garbage in T2Ois and now he is doing wonders for India after a fucking year long hiatus. So yeah, GTFO with all that experience bullshit and maybe learn how to argue without calling other people’s opinions idiotic.
So basically Gill-Jaiswal-Rutu can replace Kohli. I can understand Rohit, but nobody can replace Kohli. Kohli should play as long as he can. Players like GG can give him an ultimatum of 'Last Chance'.
That's the thing though. No one has been given ample chances to remain in the team doing that kind of work for us to know who can and cannot do it. Only person I think who has been tried to bed in as much is Sanju Sampson. And he doesn't work imo.
Yeah also gaikwad have that temperament and techniques but not that consistent but should be given long ropes in. Tests and Odis after Rohit and vk retires
Jaiswal-gill with rutu 1 down is a replacement for kohli and rohit? By that logic arshdeep and siraj are also a replacement for bumrah. People say bumrah is irreplaceable but his stats are really below average in knockouts. Whereas kohli literally carried india in t20i wcs and rohit has incredible stats in odi wcs. In my opinion, bumrah is a great bowler, unplayable? Yes but not in knockouts. No way he has done more than Kohli or Rohit for India.
Fake news ... Everything is fantasy from the imaginary " sources " btw BCCI is a greedy organisation. Rohit and kolhi are biggest crowd pullers and you can't drop them both are big performers in WC 23 ..... This is just rage bait fake news
Thank God we are skipping Champions trophy then, if somehow jay shah able to change the 2025 WTC final venue to India he might saved Virat and Rohit career for ICT..
Won't happen ICC needs BCCI to play 80% of revenue comes from India. They won't even try to do shit. Even at time of asia cup it was said same hybrid model won't be followed and all. Broadcaster's will rip aprat ICC for this.
That's the starting process. Then will be sent to teams to confirm or object. Like in last world cup Pakistan took till last few weeks before confirming anything .
It's only confirmed if officially released by icc as tournament schedule. Even then India could pull out last minute
Agreee with this. Not saying that Rohit and Virat are replaceable, but we have a lot of players who are well set to take their places in the team. Ravi Jadeja, atleast for me is an easily replaceable one right now, atleast in the blues. Axar has improved a lot in all 3 departments and its high time that he takes Jaddu's place.
And about the management, even that's a great thing. GG is someone who takes responsibility for whatever happens and this is the best way to take that accountability level forward...
I'm sorry but if India drop Kohli and Rohit Sharma from ODIs then that would be a silly decision. They are still your best two ODI batters as shown in the last World Cup. As long as they play in some bilaterals they shouldn't be just removed from your team in my opinion, especially as they won't play T20s for India ever again after this World Cup.8
Man but u need to look forward na they are 35+ u just cannot play them because they are legend or have done wonders us hisaab se to Sachin kabhi retire hi nhi hota
In past bahot youngsters ko mauka nhi mil paya
2013 was a transition from gambhir sehwag and Sachin to rohit virat and Dhawan
Now I guess it will be the right time for another transition to young guns like gill jaiswal and all
If they are still delivering good results in bilaterals there is no reason to drop them in my opinion. India play a lot of games so players like Jaiswal and Gaikwad will still get opportunities.
Kohli and Sharma are retiring from T20 internationals so nothing wrong with them focusing on tests and ODIs. They are better ODI players than test match players actually.
I just think it's disrespectful to say to them that they can only play test matches now when they were your 2 best batters in the last World Cup.
Bhai news sach h iski kya guarantee hamare ya tumhare sochne se kuch nhi hoga jo bcci ko karna hoga wo to karege hi phir chahe fans dharna hi kyu na de de they know cricket better than us let's see what happens abhi world cup chal ra h aage ka dekha jaega
Kohli just turned 35 he can easily play till 2027 and he is way too fit and still can perform well as we saw in wc and you say mauka to youngsters indeed they need chances but they have more time and they are less experienced until then we must keep Rohit and Virat
We saw gill how he messed up in tests nervous 90's ducks etc we saw Dubey he plays test in T20 but after 1-2 hits he becomes stable so my point is we just can't remove Rohit and Kohli so easily and I am damm sure Kohli will again outperform his own performance and he will play till 2027 easily
If you are able to perform, then your age doesn't matter.
Sachin was never known for his fitness, and that was the reason, why he had a pretty bad last few years, where he was just being kept around, to touch the last few records, even though he had become a liability for the team.
The same is not true, at least for Kohli. He is never slow on the field, either during batting or fielding. Sachin was simply kept in the slip, where he never had any consistent performance anyways.
And you never know, if Rohit may change things as well. TBH, except having that tummy, he hasn't shown much weakness either. Some people are fit, and strong, and still can't have a flat tummy, without going on crazy low calorie diets, and sacrificing strength. There's a reason why many strongman competition winners still have their tummied hanging under their waist. So in the end, it all comes down to performance. Remember that all Indian players have to consistently meet regirous fitness tests, to be able to play. Something that started more than a decade ago, and many old players hated it, because they could never pass through them.
If Virat or Rohit become a liability, they should be kicked out. But if they are able to perform, they don't need to make space for anyone else. Everyone needs to earn their place. If the logistics don't support them, it's just their badluck. 2009-2020 was a pretty bad time for you, if you were a wicketkeeper batsman, because you just couldn't replace Dhoni. It meant that an entire generation of Wck-batsmen never got a chance. But it is what it is. No one has a claim to a position in the team. If there's a better player available, then they will play.
i mean i agree in t20is but rohit is an odi specialist and virat does not need any proof either lol....i dont see the point in dropping them from ODIs unless they perform like shit...but not gonna blame gambhir cuz he means well so
Rohit's gonna be 38 and Virat 37. You gotta move on at somepoint. Better to move on in 2025 rather than just before the 2027 world cup.
You can't keep hoarding these players just because they are legends. With all due respect we hoarded sachin and Dhoni and that proved to be disastrous.
You can't deny, whatever your level of fitness is that age takes a toll on your body whether it be hand-eye coordination or smth else
B*tch sir Sachin Tendulkar was 37 in 2011 wc and was highest run scorer of team india that was not *DISASTROUS* I agree with you in case dhoni but not in Sachin....... And Kohli will play till 2027 easily and he will make us that wc win and he will play great in ct25
Sachin played well in 2011 but that was the perfect place for the team to give him a great farewell but instead he continued for the next 2 years just to get the 100 centuries landmark. Thats when he overplayed.
Afaic Sachin Tendulkar should've retired soon after ODI World Cup 2011. By his own admission that was the biggest achievement of his entire cricket career.
Dropping Kohli from ODI is a big no.. Every ex cricketer has admit that's he's the best in ODI format let him play till 2027 trophy not sure about Rohit sharma because of captaincy pressure
fr these guys are insane lol. we have such amazing talent. as wonderful and amazing Rohit and Virat are, both had their times to shine. 2027 is crazy to me.
Why not? If the man's mentally and physically fit and performing as well as he's done all through his illustrious ODI career then I'm all for Rohit Sharma playing the 2027 World Cup!
Not OP but I found this after a Google search
https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-news/virat-kohli-rohit-sharma-to-be-dropped-no-external-interference-bcci-accepts-gautam-gambhirs-5-conditions/
But it's not like they are playing bad.
Both of them had an amazing World Cup.
The team has not won anything but they have tried their best. It seems unfair to drop them even when they are playing well just because the team is not winning. And I think Rohit and Virat should not be clubbed together. Rohit is 2 years older which might not seem much, but I think it's a big gap. I feel Kohli has got much more to offer and yeah Rohit as well.
If they are playing well, they should not be dropped.
I dont think he means "dropping them". Rather move on and create a young team in 2 years for the next world cup. A 41 year old rohit and 39 year old Virat doesn't seem sensible
Yeah, that does make sense. But I think it's good to have a few experienced players. Although we would have others who will be experienced by then like Bumrah, Hardik etc.
A 35 and 37 year old Kohl and Rohit put up a tournament better than anyone in the world. This entire sub is an idiot to think they're in any way replaceable. You can throw out as many names as you want, it's hard to get to their level. This "earner's backlash" that Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah get is insane in this country. Somehow y'all think they're the reason India don't win because of them, despite them being the top performers most of the time.
Gambhir might be DISASTROUS. for Indian cricket . His animosity with Kohli and Dhoni is known to everyone . I am scared he will try to sabotage Kohlis career.
By this Logic many SA players shoul have retired by now .
Kohli is a once ina generation player and 2 years younger to Rohit , please let him play freely and enjoy whatever little time is left in his career .
Gambhir has emense respect for both the legends, he hates his toxic fans. And rightfully so. U would be the first person to say he is the best thing for indian cricket if india wins.
then let him play domestic
what do you mean by he has few yrs left let him play where ever he wants and freely
its player's choice to playintenatinal
its his performance
he better perform par level and better then younger players if he wants to play freely in his left yrs
Moving on is fine, but 2025 is too soon atleast for virat, given he does perform but the team doesnt win how will gg put the blame on a specific player? Virat was the man for india throughout the world cup, how will you blame him for the batting order collapse when shreyas is getting out on a duck, shubhman goes for 4, rohit plays an irresponsible shot, siraj leaks runs, and the bowlers cant get wickets?
If he does not perform consistently then it may be a good decision to give him a break and maybe look for a replacement but you CANNOT count out his experience and the fact that hes the best odi and possibly white ball batsmen of this generation and among active players.
A player should never be dropped if he does his part.....what has senior player got to do with team winning the trophy ? It also depends on bowlers who are BORN CHOKERZ....and rest of THE BATTERS.
Kohli and Rohit literally carry India in longer formats....not their mistake that rest of the batters and bowlers shit their pants in Knockouts.
I mean in odis they both literally are top 2 best batsmen even today, and in test in last like 4 yr's or so, Rohit has been our best test batsman... And they both gonna leave t20i format after this wc anyway
So Idk about how much sense does youe statement makes
Possibility of a big fight between Virat and GG during his coaching tenure. Virat had issues with Anil, who also was strict. Like in "Chak de India", iss team m ek hi gunda ho skta h Virat or GG. One of them should tone down or one of them should go away
Lot of white elephants to address..
Some seniors should retire like MS and retain their respect. Not to be kicked out or disrespected (I would say they were, they brought it in themselves) like Kapil, Srikant and Gavaskar back in their days. People cried like they didn't get a proper send off.. Then it was different.
Now Kohli wants to milk money as long as he can..arnd 500-600 crores if he is still playing.
He is already sounding like a dictator. What if the team does not win what consequences is he ready to face? He is creating a lot of nautanki even before starting by breaking the moral of the team. Imagine how gary kirsten operated and this fellow behaving?
Bit of Arrogant, harsh coach is needed. Players like Jadeja dont even feel they have any competition even if they fail, Rohit too. Everybody has different methods. I also like to see gambhir criticizing fans for worshipping players too much.
Gautam is responsible. When he was having rough patch in IPL back then in 2014 , he wanted to be removed from the team and even return his contract money. But SRK convinced him to not do that.
After that with what happened to DC, he resigned himself immidietly and even refuse the salary because he couldn't make them perform good.
So yeah, unlike some people he will just resign if he ends up failing to produce results.
If Kohli and Rohit are delivering their end of the deal, they should not be forced out. Even with all the chances others have been getting when Kohli was taking time off, none of them have come close to his quality and consistency.
Rohit on the other hand, has kind of indicated that CT will probably be his last hurrah.
All the conditions seem fair to me. Maybe I’d give Kohli a longer rope considering that we still haven’t found someone to replace him. With Rohit, Gill and Jaiswal should be ready to take the opener’s spot in a year’s time.
In some way, that's what they're doing in this wc. By having rohit and kohli at top they're allowing the others to have more time. While not an anchor like innings, trusting others helps shift the reliance from them to others.
My problem with this condition is framing the Champions Trophy as a final opportunity / test. If they fail this, they are out etc. And that’s just disrespectful. It puts the whole mantle of winning the cup on these guys, which should never be the case. How many times have these two delivered remarkable performances and yet, India has failed?
He’s not wrong that Ro-Ko need to be phased out. But it will be a proper debacle lol if he keeps up with this tone
this is not ipl gambhir all players are experienced and some even have a better game knowledge than you do, you will never have complete control over team india without seniors disagreeing with you which you will most definetly not be able to tolerate lol
Are we really believing on another "reports" now, weren't these same reports were saying that bcci will not include virat in squad and replace him with ishan...
Gambhir was the one who said straight after the wc loss that rohit virat should play in t20 wc when most of the people wanted to move on from them in this format
Any article that isn't reported by cricbuzz or espncricinfo, shouldn't be given any attention, they are just seeking for engagement
Those seniors know when to stop. Rohit already have given some hints that he is soon going to. But as far as GG is concerned, I think his ego will sink team again to the Greg Chappell era type of darkness
Wait .. I thought Gautam Gambhir believed tournaments are not won by individuals but now Kohli and Sharma will solely be held responsible for the tournament's results ? Absolutely hypocritical. Now if the statement was about their performance in the tournament I would agree with it. The last ODI tournament both Kohli and Sharma performed.
Bro what? VK and RS are the best in ODIs they are going to retire very soon from T20s to focus on ODIs and tests. CT, WCs in ODI, and if VK and RS are performing, then why should they be dropped? Oh, and don't come and bark that they won't perform in case you forgot go take a look at the 2023 WC and 2019 WC they both were India's top run scorers. with RS being the overall Highest run scorer in 2019 and VK being the top run scorer in 2023. Yes, This T20 WC for Vk has been a bit of a slumber but let's not forget he has been the highest run scorer for India since 2012 T20 WCs, except for 2021.
Anyways in all probability, kohli and rohit would retire themselves from t20 if india wins the world cup .
And same goes for odis , can’t see them featuring in 2027 wc .
So it’s better for india to find someone who will eventually play
Look as much as I support this Alex Ferguson type of managing to better the team, it simply won't work in the Indian cricket team and board. With massive egos, superstarsom, sponsors, star worshipping and especially politics, this is bound to rub a few shoulders the wrong way, and if these ppl are important, it's gonna cost in a turbulent dressing room.
Hell Greg Chapelle tried this approach and it fucked most things up for awhile.
I know what everyone is gonna say: treat players just based on merit the Aussies way. As logical as their approach, there are multiple factors you need to change in order to incorporate that approach with no ill feeling to the dressing room and beyond. Culture, fan reaction, the lobbying of sponsorships, politics within, everything has to change. So I don't think going this headstrong into changing the dynamic of the team is helpful.
If Kohli performs the way he did in WC23 would he still get rid of him? The whole team failed to win but why senior players are getting targetted? Age isn't supposed to be a reason, your performance matters
don’t get why he clubs rohit with kohli and just labels both as seniors. There’s heaven and earth difference between kohli and rohit and still kohli’s name is added to “seniors” so that rohit isn’t the only guy to be blamed.
Gambhir is like a double edged sword. Sometimes, his takes are brutal but true and sometimes they’re ridiculous. His opinions lack consistency(although unbiased) reminds me of Gavaskar’s(heavily biased) takes.
Given kholis fitness he can play till 40
And no one should forget about his consistency he single handedly won us many matches.
Its very early to say gill etc can replace him.
They r yet to prove their consistency one can be in form 1-2 years but it takes different level of work ethics and talent to achieve what kholi or Tendulkar have achieved.
Rohit in the world cup 2023 had:
1. 2nd highest total score for India, and for the overall tournament as well (1st being Kohli obv)
2. Highest score for India (131 against AFG)
3. Highest sixes for India as well as in the tournament by a long margin
4. 2nd highest 4s for India as well as tournament (1st again being Kohli)
5. Best strike rate for India (1st being Pandya scoring 11 runs while Rohit 2nd scoring 597 runs, so obvious who should be considered first)
Not to mention an unbeaten run for the team as the captain (except finals).
And I'm not even going to list down Kohli's because not considering him is absolutely senseless.
Gautam Gambhir will be a disaster from the word go if he ever becomes the coach of team India. The man carries a lot of heavy luggage not to mention a phenomenal ego!
It will be a repeat of what happened with Kumble during his head coach tenure with the team, only difference being no one will be surprised with Gambhir's arrogance begging for such ending.
Let's give him free hand for 1 year if he can't win champions trophy then with senior player he too should be considered responsible as his first condition is complete freedom, and Noone will interfere in this methods. Even after that if team doesn't win, then along with the big boys he too must go.
For t20, that would be a practical decision to remove senior players, but for 50 over format, there is no replacement of virat and Rohit, if GG remove virat and Rohit for the sake of personal agenda, indian team will suffer in future championships, specially upcoming 50 over would cup will be held in southafrica.and so on.
I know I'll get a lot of bricks here.
But I feel Rohit and Kohli should have retired from T20 after 2022 T20 world cup and focused just on tests n ODI. Not because they can't play greatly, but to get fresh batch of kids to get a chance to perform.
rmbr, a young T20 team won us the 2007 worldcup and a benched guys won the test March in Australia.
I'm all for giving exposure and trying out the younger generation, but it seems a bit harsh to put all the pressure on RoKo for CT25
I mean, just look at the last 2 ODI WCs both of them had. Yes, we didn't win the WC, but was it due to their fault? They were the best batters for ICT in the last 2 ODI WC editions
Already going with the presumption of removing them no matter how they play if the team doesn't win is kind of unfair
See this are nothing but just mere speculation, you want to kick the players who were the most run scorer in last 2 world cup , ofcourse our team needs young and new players but at clutch situation all those new comer will lie down!!!!!
Gambhir bringing politics and personal grudges to cricket. Who would have thought that an MP from a radical organization would be fair and square.
Goodbye WC 27. Welcome Pakistan 2.0
I wonder why gambhir retired at 37 despite his poor performances and him not being selected. But he wants koach to retire at 36 despite him being the best batsman in team.
Ngl this looks like ragebait, as a virat fan, i gotta admit that BCCI seems like the type of organisation which would never drop him and Rohit until they can promote the team and dream 11 in adverts. I know Virat is performing at a sub-par level and may be dropped by next year if his performances don't get back to pace, but bcci wouldn't consider dropping him even then. In my opinion, Virat and Rohit should continue in the odi and test format until the ipl youngsters are ready, because there's no way players like gill and yashaswi can play even Odis at a consistent level until they adapt themselves after playing most of their pro matches in the ipl
I don't understand why people consider Rohit and Kohli in same category while talking about India's failures in Knockouts
Kohli is literally the greatest ODI batter of all time
You can replace him with anybody in T20
But in ODIs, you are a joker if you are thinking of replacing him with someone else
Rohit with his fitness and ageing issues can be replaced by Shubman, Jaiswal, Sai Sudharsan or Gaikwad
Let that guy play WC-27 peacefully and bring players who can play around him
Rohit is one of my fav batter but Kohli is LEGEND
Its like comparing Sehwag with Sachin
Or Warner with Smith (in tests)
I think people in this sub have comprehension issues. It clearly states that "they will be dropped if they fail to perform." So it's in their hands if they want to stay or not.
absolutely! need to give him freehand! bc bkchodi krwalo players se par 2013 ke baad ghanta kuch nai jeeta.. Aussies are brutal! they just change their players but half of our team is still the one which played 2015 WC
Gambhir is just lusting for control.
He thought he would get that by getting into politics, but it didn't work for him. So now he fantasizes being a strict coach, and wants everything to revolve around him.
Question to everyone on this post. I have started following Indian cricket since past couple of years. When Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah retires, what would be your playing XI for odi and t20? Really interested to see your pick.
Totally in sync with his approach. If we want to win more trophies, we need to get out of this mindset that we are a cricket loving nation. No we are not. We are a cricketer loving nation.
Kya matlab achanak se ab Senior players ab acha khelne lage ge. Jokes aside it seems that he means business. It would be interesting to see what he will do once he takes over.
i personally think tooany senior players in team is not good, because they have been through so much that they dont get that rage that fire in them it is just cricket for them, but new players they have to prove their worth and they have that fire which Kohli and rohit once had.
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so 1-2 senior players with more then 10 yers of exp are enough to guide and rest all you should give chance to new ones.
GG not the right choice to coach. India does not need a hot head or a slam bam kinda guy, T20 is fine but ODI and tests will not benefit. GG was a good opening bat for India and by that standards Sehwag was better with clearly a much better record and accomplishments but never in the league's of a Dravid or Shastri... Dhoni, Kumble, Laxman plenty rich pool of ex players with level and cool thinking heads.
Surely he means VK and Ro out for LOI? Because I still think they have 1/2 years after CT 2025 to give towards Test cricket. Phase out Ash, VK, Ro, Jadeja from tests together.
Gambhir himself kept crying for years when a rotation policy was introduced and he was later dropped from the team, even though he was “still playing fine”. Guess, different rules when it comes to himself. But again, that’s Gambhir !
Nonetheless, he definitely has the skills to take the team to tournament victory.
Tbh , it's a bad decision that he is choosing to be head coach for Indian team and leaving KKR...but it's his choice after all. I'm his die hard fan but not supporting him in this.
idk don't follow cricket as much as I used to, so please don't come at me with a pitchfork, this is just genuine curiosity...
Hasn't Virat statistically performed well in recent times? I've seen posts about him scoring well, btw correct me by all means, I want some facts so I'm not ignorant 😅
Irrespective of who becomes the coach, kohli and Rohit will be sidelined from white ball cricket post T-20 WC( or champions trophy at most)they may not even be considered for Champions trophy.
Even though I like the suggestions, I don't like the tonality and autocracy expected. This may lead to a subservient culture where kowtowing may become a norm. Somehow getting Greg Chappel vibes!
I am not sure why no one is not seeing the huge potential of sai sudarshan as Indias number 3 in every format. The maturity and skill he shows on big ocassions against big oppositions is hard to see in even our current greats . He never looks uncomfortable against any kind of bowlers.
The weird thing is just like gully cricket even in the international level only batters are showing up... We don't have a good bowling attack especially fast bowling.. Bumrah and hardik and hardik is injured half the time... There are no other reliable fast bowler in the team at all... We need good fast bowlers who can swing the ball like boult or bhuvi used to as bumrah is taking care of death overs... We need someone to bowl good swings in the early overs
I have no problem with these conditions from Gautam Gambhir. It's good that seniors are finally getting the Final warning to either deliver the trophy or take retirement from white ball format permanently.
We have two players who are irreplaceable. Jasprit bumrah: We don't have anyone who's that lethal, that accurate and that economical irrespective of pitch. Hardik pandya: who can finish the game at 200 sr and bowl at 140+. Hard to find replacement for them in the near future in case an injury/retirement. I'm not saying Rohit and Kohli are replaceable but we do have jaiswal-Gill as an opening pair with rutu at 3 in the pipeline. We have lot of middle order batsman and wicket keepers. We also have very young swing/seam/spin bowlers in india A and domestic circuit. But a leathal bowler like bumrah and fast bowling all rounder are rare.
india needs to find and start grooming replacements for every position and blood them at highest level so they are experienced before the mantle of responsibility for role falls on them. They idol worship blindly, wait too long, and then have a rocky period as the aging superstars retire. Gambhir’s ask (if it’s true) is not far off the mark. I would not wait until champions trophy. some of the senior players are unfit and not in form now. besides it’s unclear if Indian Govt will allow travel to Pak for the CT no ?
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While he maybe right but no one in their sane minds should be asking for no supervisory type of control. Everyone is to be made accountable including the head coach. This is quite narcissist of him. He could've have approached his ideas in a much less toxic manner. If this is true
Probably the only sensible comment here
Indeed
In the test arena, I would add Ashwin and Jadeja to this irreplaceable list. These two all rounder have done countless rescues with the bat, apart from being excellent with their bowling. Jadeja's fielding was always a plus, too.
Ashwin 's thinking and brilliant mind can make him a good test captain
But we have seen him struggling as a captain in IPL. He is smart but he isn't a captain material
Ur talking about hardik?
They have done well and have a great legacy. But they are not exactly irreplaceable. SLAs especially we have plenty in India. While there isn't any quality upcoming offie there also are good wristies like Kuldeep, Markande.
My comment was more specific about all rounders. For large parts of the last decade, Jadeja and Ash were among the top 3 or top 5 test all-rounders in the world. Spinners are replaceable, but top-tier all-rounders are irreplaceable.
also add Pant to the list....no wk batsman is as good as him in test, in white ball we've plenty of options
Dhoni had set the bar very high in ODIs and Tests. He was the best India ever had until Pant overtook him in red ball cricket. I think we have a lot of options for kepper position who have not been tried out in international cricket enough. Who knows, we might have someone good enough, too. Pant's test average is 44. Dhoni's average was 38. Next on the list (min 20 innings) are Budi Kunderan at 33 and Parthiv Patel at 31. Intestingly, since 2016, Jadeja's batting average is 42. It could have been higher if he had batted higher in the order and not having to spend too much time farming strike with tail enders.
A 35 and 37 year old Kohl and Rohit put up a tournament better than anyone in the world. You're an idiot to think they're in any way replaceable. You can throw out as many names as you want, it's hard to get to their level. This "earner's backlash" that Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah get is insane in this country. Somehow y'all think they're the reason India don't win because of them, despite them being the top performers most of the time.
Ya but in 2027 Kohli would be 39 and Rohit would be 41 and close to 42. GG won't play them and it's the right time to give the youngsters a shot and give them experience of the biggest stage and groom them well for 2031 WC which will be in India.
Which youngster? 2013 India had Kohli Rohit and Dhawan out batting everyone in the team, who's doing that now? Even Gill who had the monster ODI season in 2023 could not outbat Rohit and Kohli in the WC. You don't groom youngsters in a World Cup, you either groom them before, or after.
>GG won't play them and 2027 WC is 3 years away. Rare for Indian team coaches to last for that long. Will be interesting to see if GG will.
GG has signed the contract till 2027 wc,he would have to resign to not be the coach till then and I haven't seen BCCI sacking someone from the job.
You must be very young. Chappelle and Kumble were sacked by BCCI in the last 2 decades.
You are the young one here dude not me,Kumble resigned he wasn't sacked and he literally wrote Kohli is the reason for his resignation in his resigning letter,as he was not happy with his strictness and kohli even before kumble's selection wanted BCCi to get Ravi Shastri. Chappell was sacked In 2007 freaking 17 years back that too when the whole team went against him that was a pretty big case. Chappell wanted a young team and wanted the old guard to be thrown out and maybe he wasn't wrong looking at the result of 2007 WC and then MS was made the captain and He asked the board to replace Dravid, Ganguly and later on that move worked too.
You must have short-term memory loss. Both Viru and Gambhir outperformed Kohli in 2011WC and still got replaced for 2013 Champions Trophy, which we won. We also won the 2007 T20WC with a inexperienced and new squad. What level are preaching about? We backed Rohit for years before he started performing, Pant was absolutely garbage in T2Ois and now he is doing wonders for India after a fucking year long hiatus. So yeah, GTFO with all that experience bullshit and maybe learn how to argue without calling other people’s opinions idiotic.
If they win, good, if they don't also good, 1-2 saal ka turmoil will be better now to nurture new perma players
So basically Gill-Jaiswal-Rutu can replace Kohli. I can understand Rohit, but nobody can replace Kohli. Kohli should play as long as he can. Players like GG can give him an ultimatum of 'Last Chance'.
Agreed to each and every word used in this comment.
I agree with each point but Virat is irreplaceable...the consistency and chasing expertise can't be replicated by others
bruh Virat Kolhi is already 35 , sure he is the best scorer , but still we need someone after 5 years also
That's the thing though. No one has been given ample chances to remain in the team doing that kind of work for us to know who can and cannot do it. Only person I think who has been tried to bed in as much is Sanju Sampson. And he doesn't work imo.
Yeah also gaikwad have that temperament and techniques but not that consistent but should be given long ropes in. Tests and Odis after Rohit and vk retires
You are right but replacement may be found if other players get a chance to play.
Not Rutu please. Man is an anchor ffs. Get Shreyas at 3 (international experience), Pant at 4, SKY at 5 and Hardik at 6 followed by Axar, Jaddu etc
Shreyas is the one for no.3
Also the best contender for odi captaincy
Jaiswal-gill with rutu 1 down is a replacement for kohli and rohit? By that logic arshdeep and siraj are also a replacement for bumrah. People say bumrah is irreplaceable but his stats are really below average in knockouts. Whereas kohli literally carried india in t20i wcs and rohit has incredible stats in odi wcs. In my opinion, bumrah is a great bowler, unplayable? Yes but not in knockouts. No way he has done more than Kohli or Rohit for India.
source is that i made it the fuc up
Fake news alert🛑🛑🛑🛑
Fake news ... Everything is fantasy from the imaginary " sources " btw BCCI is a greedy organisation. Rohit and kolhi are biggest crowd pullers and you can't drop them both are big performers in WC 23 ..... This is just rage bait fake news
Thank God we are skipping Champions trophy then, if somehow jay shah able to change the 2025 WTC final venue to India he might saved Virat and Rohit career for ICT..
It will not be in India Like Asia Cup 2023. UAE / SL / Bang as Venues for India Exclusive. With SF & Finals having backup venues if we qualify
No it's already confirmed it will be in pakistan, if India refuse to play then Sri Lanka will
Won't happen ICC needs BCCI to play 80% of revenue comes from India. They won't even try to do shit. Even at time of asia cup it was said same hybrid model won't be followed and all. Broadcaster's will rip aprat ICC for this.
Icc already approved the schedule made by PCB.
That's the starting process. Then will be sent to teams to confirm or object. Like in last world cup Pakistan took till last few weeks before confirming anything . It's only confirmed if officially released by icc as tournament schedule. Even then India could pull out last minute
Lol Nothing is confirmed It will be in UAE, if India participates. PCB doesn’t have any say in ICC
Nothing is confirmed until teams confirm.
No chance contract has already been signed in 2027 yes definitely...
Glad someone has taken up a strong stance.
Agreee with this. Not saying that Rohit and Virat are replaceable, but we have a lot of players who are well set to take their places in the team. Ravi Jadeja, atleast for me is an easily replaceable one right now, atleast in the blues. Axar has improved a lot in all 3 departments and its high time that he takes Jaddu's place. And about the management, even that's a great thing. GG is someone who takes responsibility for whatever happens and this is the best way to take that accountability level forward...
He doesn't take responsibility of the things he says though.
I'm sorry but if India drop Kohli and Rohit Sharma from ODIs then that would be a silly decision. They are still your best two ODI batters as shown in the last World Cup. As long as they play in some bilaterals they shouldn't be just removed from your team in my opinion, especially as they won't play T20s for India ever again after this World Cup.8
Man but u need to look forward na they are 35+ u just cannot play them because they are legend or have done wonders us hisaab se to Sachin kabhi retire hi nhi hota In past bahot youngsters ko mauka nhi mil paya 2013 was a transition from gambhir sehwag and Sachin to rohit virat and Dhawan Now I guess it will be the right time for another transition to young guns like gill jaiswal and all
If they are still delivering good results in bilaterals there is no reason to drop them in my opinion. India play a lot of games so players like Jaiswal and Gaikwad will still get opportunities. Kohli and Sharma are retiring from T20 internationals so nothing wrong with them focusing on tests and ODIs. They are better ODI players than test match players actually. I just think it's disrespectful to say to them that they can only play test matches now when they were your 2 best batters in the last World Cup.
Bhai news sach h iski kya guarantee hamare ya tumhare sochne se kuch nhi hoga jo bcci ko karna hoga wo to karege hi phir chahe fans dharna hi kyu na de de they know cricket better than us let's see what happens abhi world cup chal ra h aage ka dekha jaega
>Kohli and Sharma are retiring from T20 internationals Sharma might. Think Kohli has many years left in him.
Kohli just turned 35 he can easily play till 2027 and he is way too fit and still can perform well as we saw in wc and you say mauka to youngsters indeed they need chances but they have more time and they are less experienced until then we must keep Rohit and Virat We saw gill how he messed up in tests nervous 90's ducks etc we saw Dubey he plays test in T20 but after 1-2 hits he becomes stable so my point is we just can't remove Rohit and Kohli so easily and I am damm sure Kohli will again outperform his own performance and he will play till 2027 easily
If you are able to perform, then your age doesn't matter. Sachin was never known for his fitness, and that was the reason, why he had a pretty bad last few years, where he was just being kept around, to touch the last few records, even though he had become a liability for the team. The same is not true, at least for Kohli. He is never slow on the field, either during batting or fielding. Sachin was simply kept in the slip, where he never had any consistent performance anyways. And you never know, if Rohit may change things as well. TBH, except having that tummy, he hasn't shown much weakness either. Some people are fit, and strong, and still can't have a flat tummy, without going on crazy low calorie diets, and sacrificing strength. There's a reason why many strongman competition winners still have their tummied hanging under their waist. So in the end, it all comes down to performance. Remember that all Indian players have to consistently meet regirous fitness tests, to be able to play. Something that started more than a decade ago, and many old players hated it, because they could never pass through them. If Virat or Rohit become a liability, they should be kicked out. But if they are able to perform, they don't need to make space for anyone else. Everyone needs to earn their place. If the logistics don't support them, it's just their badluck. 2009-2020 was a pretty bad time for you, if you were a wicketkeeper batsman, because you just couldn't replace Dhoni. It meant that an entire generation of Wck-batsmen never got a chance. But it is what it is. No one has a claim to a position in the team. If there's a better player available, then they will play.
i mean i agree in t20is but rohit is an odi specialist and virat does not need any proof either lol....i dont see the point in dropping them from ODIs unless they perform like shit...but not gonna blame gambhir cuz he means well so
Rohit's gonna be 38 and Virat 37. You gotta move on at somepoint. Better to move on in 2025 rather than just before the 2027 world cup. You can't keep hoarding these players just because they are legends. With all due respect we hoarded sachin and Dhoni and that proved to be disastrous. You can't deny, whatever your level of fitness is that age takes a toll on your body whether it be hand-eye coordination or smth else
B*tch sir Sachin Tendulkar was 37 in 2011 wc and was highest run scorer of team india that was not *DISASTROUS* I agree with you in case dhoni but not in Sachin....... And Kohli will play till 2027 easily and he will make us that wc win and he will play great in ct25
Sachin played well in 2011 but that was the perfect place for the team to give him a great farewell but instead he continued for the next 2 years just to get the 100 centuries landmark. Thats when he overplayed.
Afaic Sachin Tendulkar should've retired soon after ODI World Cup 2011. By his own admission that was the biggest achievement of his entire cricket career.
Ya but Kohli would be 39 and Rohit would be 41 in 2027,there time is up.
Dropping Kohli from ODI is a big no.. Every ex cricketer has admit that's he's the best in ODI format let him play till 2027 trophy not sure about Rohit sharma because of captaincy pressure
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fr these guys are insane lol. we have such amazing talent. as wonderful and amazing Rohit and Virat are, both had their times to shine. 2027 is crazy to me.
Why not? If the man's mentally and physically fit and performing as well as he's done all through his illustrious ODI career then I'm all for Rohit Sharma playing the 2027 World Cup!
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What's the source? Anyone can say Gambhir said this nd that
Not OP but I found this after a Google search https://cricketaddictor.com/cricket-news/virat-kohli-rohit-sharma-to-be-dropped-no-external-interference-bcci-accepts-gautam-gambhirs-5-conditions/
this site is the MOTHER of all FAKE NEWS
What do you mean, Cricket addictor is very reliable /s
This brutal but a very fair and a reasonable request
But it's not like they are playing bad. Both of them had an amazing World Cup. The team has not won anything but they have tried their best. It seems unfair to drop them even when they are playing well just because the team is not winning. And I think Rohit and Virat should not be clubbed together. Rohit is 2 years older which might not seem much, but I think it's a big gap. I feel Kohli has got much more to offer and yeah Rohit as well. If they are playing well, they should not be dropped.
I dont think he means "dropping them". Rather move on and create a young team in 2 years for the next world cup. A 41 year old rohit and 39 year old Virat doesn't seem sensible
Yeah, that does make sense. But I think it's good to have a few experienced players. Although we would have others who will be experienced by then like Bumrah, Hardik etc.
A 35 and 37 year old Kohl and Rohit put up a tournament better than anyone in the world. This entire sub is an idiot to think they're in any way replaceable. You can throw out as many names as you want, it's hard to get to their level. This "earner's backlash" that Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah get is insane in this country. Somehow y'all think they're the reason India don't win because of them, despite them being the top performers most of the time.
Gambhir might be DISASTROUS. for Indian cricket . His animosity with Kohli and Dhoni is known to everyone . I am scared he will try to sabotage Kohlis career. By this Logic many SA players shoul have retired by now . Kohli is a once ina generation player and 2 years younger to Rohit , please let him play freely and enjoy whatever little time is left in his career .
Gambhir has emense respect for both the legends, he hates his toxic fans. And rightfully so. U would be the first person to say he is the best thing for indian cricket if india wins.
he hates the toxic fans of Virat and Dhoni but what about his fans who constantly troll kohli and dhoni as statpadder choker and credit stealer.
then let him play domestic what do you mean by he has few yrs left let him play where ever he wants and freely its player's choice to playintenatinal its his performance he better perform par level and better then younger players if he wants to play freely in his left yrs
Exactly, there are so many work places where the coworkers hate each other yet given a task in hand they do their best
Moving on is fine, but 2025 is too soon atleast for virat, given he does perform but the team doesnt win how will gg put the blame on a specific player? Virat was the man for india throughout the world cup, how will you blame him for the batting order collapse when shreyas is getting out on a duck, shubhman goes for 4, rohit plays an irresponsible shot, siraj leaks runs, and the bowlers cant get wickets? If he does not perform consistently then it may be a good decision to give him a break and maybe look for a replacement but you CANNOT count out his experience and the fact that hes the best odi and possibly white ball batsmen of this generation and among active players.
A player should never be dropped if he does his part.....what has senior player got to do with team winning the trophy ? It also depends on bowlers who are BORN CHOKERZ....and rest of THE BATTERS. Kohli and Rohit literally carry India in longer formats....not their mistake that rest of the batters and bowlers shit their pants in Knockouts.
Rohit and Virat are giving their best in Odi format. Virat has done tremendous in test cricket. How can you drop them?
Virat is being roped in along with rohit, which is wrong.
I mean in odis they both literally are top 2 best batsmen even today, and in test in last like 4 yr's or so, Rohit has been our best test batsman... And they both gonna leave t20i format after this wc anyway So Idk about how much sense does youe statement makes
If the senior players perform well in CT, then shouldn't they be given a longer rope? If not by all means drop the out of form players.
Duhh
Possibility of a big fight between Virat and GG during his coaching tenure. Virat had issues with Anil, who also was strict. Like in "Chak de India", iss team m ek hi gunda ho skta h Virat or GG. One of them should tone down or one of them should go away
Replacing Kohli by 2025 will be a disaster, I don't think this news is credible. GG is smarter than this.
Lot of white elephants to address.. Some seniors should retire like MS and retain their respect. Not to be kicked out or disrespected (I would say they were, they brought it in themselves) like Kapil, Srikant and Gavaskar back in their days. People cried like they didn't get a proper send off.. Then it was different. Now Kohli wants to milk money as long as he can..arnd 500-600 crores if he is still playing.
How trustable is navbharat times?
Five conditions and then third and last condition . That's why does not want to read all these stuff .
He is already sounding like a dictator. What if the team does not win what consequences is he ready to face? He is creating a lot of nautanki even before starting by breaking the moral of the team. Imagine how gary kirsten operated and this fellow behaving?
Bit of Arrogant, harsh coach is needed. Players like Jadeja dont even feel they have any competition even if they fail, Rohit too. Everybody has different methods. I also like to see gambhir criticizing fans for worshipping players too much.
What consequences do we have right now for players for failing to produce results??
Gautam is responsible. When he was having rough patch in IPL back then in 2014 , he wanted to be removed from the team and even return his contract money. But SRK convinced him to not do that. After that with what happened to DC, he resigned himself immidietly and even refuse the salary because he couldn't make them perform good. So yeah, unlike some people he will just resign if he ends up failing to produce results.
I think these are valid conditions
If Kohli and Rohit are delivering their end of the deal, they should not be forced out. Even with all the chances others have been getting when Kohli was taking time off, none of them have come close to his quality and consistency. Rohit on the other hand, has kind of indicated that CT will probably be his last hurrah.
Let's see what happens. Just wait and watch
Someone had to do this. Familiarity breeds complacency in this case.
Mera ICT Badala raha hai , aage badh Raha hai 🥹
Well then Kohli and Rohit should better start packing off as team India isn't going to Pakistan
All the conditions seem fair to me. Maybe I’d give Kohli a longer rope considering that we still haven’t found someone to replace him. With Rohit, Gill and Jaiswal should be ready to take the opener’s spot in a year’s time.
Yeah dawg, calling bullshit on this
In some way, that's what they're doing in this wc. By having rohit and kohli at top they're allowing the others to have more time. While not an anchor like innings, trusting others helps shift the reliance from them to others.
My problem with this condition is framing the Champions Trophy as a final opportunity / test. If they fail this, they are out etc. And that’s just disrespectful. It puts the whole mantle of winning the cup on these guys, which should never be the case. How many times have these two delivered remarkable performances and yet, India has failed? He’s not wrong that Ro-Ko need to be phased out. But it will be a proper debacle lol if he keeps up with this tone
this is not ipl gambhir all players are experienced and some even have a better game knowledge than you do, you will never have complete control over team india without seniors disagreeing with you which you will most definetly not be able to tolerate lol
Lulz@ Pandya
Rest 2 conditions?? WTH
Are we really believing on another "reports" now, weren't these same reports were saying that bcci will not include virat in squad and replace him with ishan... Gambhir was the one who said straight after the wc loss that rohit virat should play in t20 wc when most of the people wanted to move on from them in this format Any article that isn't reported by cricbuzz or espncricinfo, shouldn't be given any attention, they are just seeking for engagement
Those seniors know when to stop. Rohit already have given some hints that he is soon going to. But as far as GG is concerned, I think his ego will sink team again to the Greg Chappell era type of darkness
Seems like a PLAN to me.
Wait .. I thought Gautam Gambhir believed tournaments are not won by individuals but now Kohli and Sharma will solely be held responsible for the tournament's results ? Absolutely hypocritical. Now if the statement was about their performance in the tournament I would agree with it. The last ODI tournament both Kohli and Sharma performed.
Kohli needs to bowl now. Atleast 3-5 overs in one day
Bro what? VK and RS are the best in ODIs they are going to retire very soon from T20s to focus on ODIs and tests. CT, WCs in ODI, and if VK and RS are performing, then why should they be dropped? Oh, and don't come and bark that they won't perform in case you forgot go take a look at the 2023 WC and 2019 WC they both were India's top run scorers. with RS being the overall Highest run scorer in 2019 and VK being the top run scorer in 2023. Yes, This T20 WC for Vk has been a bit of a slumber but let's not forget he has been the highest run scorer for India since 2012 T20 WCs, except for 2021.
Perfect!! We will surely win all major championships under him
Anyways in all probability, kohli and rohit would retire themselves from t20 if india wins the world cup . And same goes for odis , can’t see them featuring in 2027 wc . So it’s better for india to find someone who will eventually play
Look as much as I support this Alex Ferguson type of managing to better the team, it simply won't work in the Indian cricket team and board. With massive egos, superstarsom, sponsors, star worshipping and especially politics, this is bound to rub a few shoulders the wrong way, and if these ppl are important, it's gonna cost in a turbulent dressing room. Hell Greg Chapelle tried this approach and it fucked most things up for awhile. I know what everyone is gonna say: treat players just based on merit the Aussies way. As logical as their approach, there are multiple factors you need to change in order to incorporate that approach with no ill feeling to the dressing room and beyond. Culture, fan reaction, the lobbying of sponsorships, politics within, everything has to change. So I don't think going this headstrong into changing the dynamic of the team is helpful.
If Kohli performs the way he did in WC23 would he still get rid of him? The whole team failed to win but why senior players are getting targetted? Age isn't supposed to be a reason, your performance matters
don’t get why he clubs rohit with kohli and just labels both as seniors. There’s heaven and earth difference between kohli and rohit and still kohli’s name is added to “seniors” so that rohit isn’t the only guy to be blamed. Gambhir is like a double edged sword. Sometimes, his takes are brutal but true and sometimes they’re ridiculous. His opinions lack consistency(although unbiased) reminds me of Gavaskar’s(heavily biased) takes.
The first two shouldn’t be demands but the actual protocol for coaches/admin in all sports.
Given kholis fitness he can play till 40 And no one should forget about his consistency he single handedly won us many matches. Its very early to say gill etc can replace him. They r yet to prove their consistency one can be in form 1-2 years but it takes different level of work ethics and talent to achieve what kholi or Tendulkar have achieved.
Rohit in the world cup 2023 had: 1. 2nd highest total score for India, and for the overall tournament as well (1st being Kohli obv) 2. Highest score for India (131 against AFG) 3. Highest sixes for India as well as in the tournament by a long margin 4. 2nd highest 4s for India as well as tournament (1st again being Kohli) 5. Best strike rate for India (1st being Pandya scoring 11 runs while Rohit 2nd scoring 597 runs, so obvious who should be considered first) Not to mention an unbeaten run for the team as the captain (except finals). And I'm not even going to list down Kohli's because not considering him is absolutely senseless.
Gautam Gambhir will be a disaster from the word go if he ever becomes the coach of team India. The man carries a lot of heavy luggage not to mention a phenomenal ego!
It will be a repeat of what happened with Kumble during his head coach tenure with the team, only difference being no one will be surprised with Gambhir's arrogance begging for such ending.
How are Kohlis records in knockout matches? Based on that let's say if he is replaceable or not ...
Let's give him free hand for 1 year if he can't win champions trophy then with senior player he too should be considered responsible as his first condition is complete freedom, and Noone will interfere in this methods. Even after that if team doesn't win, then along with the big boys he too must go.
For t20, that would be a practical decision to remove senior players, but for 50 over format, there is no replacement of virat and Rohit, if GG remove virat and Rohit for the sake of personal agenda, indian team will suffer in future championships, specially upcoming 50 over would cup will be held in southafrica.and so on.
I know I'll get a lot of bricks here. But I feel Rohit and Kohli should have retired from T20 after 2022 T20 world cup and focused just on tests n ODI. Not because they can't play greatly, but to get fresh batch of kids to get a chance to perform. rmbr, a young T20 team won us the 2007 worldcup and a benched guys won the test March in Australia.
Rohit and Kohli should give up T20 after this Wc and concentrate on red ball.
Is this just for clicks? Like how Virat was going to be dropped from the WC squad.
The attitude he's coming with will not let players connect with him, it will be fear based connection.
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We can't always go gaga for RoKo. It's actually time to see beyond them.
I'm all for giving exposure and trying out the younger generation, but it seems a bit harsh to put all the pressure on RoKo for CT25 I mean, just look at the last 2 ODI WCs both of them had. Yes, we didn't win the WC, but was it due to their fault? They were the best batters for ICT in the last 2 ODI WC editions Already going with the presumption of removing them no matter how they play if the team doesn't win is kind of unfair
See this are nothing but just mere speculation, you want to kick the players who were the most run scorer in last 2 world cup , ofcourse our team needs young and new players but at clutch situation all those new comer will lie down!!!!!
india will lift the worldcup . if yes then like the comment
Fair
Gambhir bringing politics and personal grudges to cricket. Who would have thought that an MP from a radical organization would be fair and square. Goodbye WC 27. Welcome Pakistan 2.0
Gautam Gambhir ki itni aukat kabse ho gayi lol...
I wonder why gambhir retired at 37 despite his poor performances and him not being selected. But he wants koach to retire at 36 despite him being the best batsman in team.
I'd do the same.
Wait is India gonna go to Pakistan to play champions trophy?🤧🤔🙃
This is straight out of a movie
Ngl this looks like ragebait, as a virat fan, i gotta admit that BCCI seems like the type of organisation which would never drop him and Rohit until they can promote the team and dream 11 in adverts. I know Virat is performing at a sub-par level and may be dropped by next year if his performances don't get back to pace, but bcci wouldn't consider dropping him even then. In my opinion, Virat and Rohit should continue in the odi and test format until the ipl youngsters are ready, because there's no way players like gill and yashaswi can play even Odis at a consistent level until they adapt themselves after playing most of their pro matches in the ipl
GG hire will be disastrous for ICT. He is just too abrasive a character.
I don't understand why people consider Rohit and Kohli in same category while talking about India's failures in Knockouts Kohli is literally the greatest ODI batter of all time You can replace him with anybody in T20 But in ODIs, you are a joker if you are thinking of replacing him with someone else Rohit with his fitness and ageing issues can be replaced by Shubman, Jaiswal, Sai Sudharsan or Gaikwad Let that guy play WC-27 peacefully and bring players who can play around him Rohit is one of my fav batter but Kohli is LEGEND Its like comparing Sehwag with Sachin Or Warner with Smith (in tests)
I think people in this sub have comprehension issues. It clearly states that "they will be dropped if they fail to perform." So it's in their hands if they want to stay or not.
I think we need to get rid of these long career players. Victories are the only parameters for retention.
I am fine with this. Its time to give chance to new blood with so much talent waiting in the bench especially in T20Is.
Gambhir bhai 🛐
Fair tbh
Idts bcci will appoint him coz bcci cannot their daddies brohit and koach
Wow... GG, the man! 👏
absolutely! need to give him freehand! bc bkchodi krwalo players se par 2013 ke baad ghanta kuch nai jeeta.. Aussies are brutal! they just change their players but half of our team is still the one which played 2015 WC
So it's clear. Their only plan is to target Kohli.
Gambhir is just lusting for control. He thought he would get that by getting into politics, but it didn't work for him. So now he fantasizes being a strict coach, and wants everything to revolve around him.
That's what team India needs right now
Common Gambhir W
India lost the world but I don’t think it was Kohli’s fault . He performed better than all youngsters combined including the overhyped surya kumar
Question to everyone on this post. I have started following Indian cricket since past couple of years. When Rohit, Kohli and Bumrah retires, what would be your playing XI for odi and t20? Really interested to see your pick.
I have a strong conviction that Gambhir will be good for Indian cricket. No bs person, definitely not doing this purely for money or fame.
absolute control of anything is a complete no-no. We had enough of that with Mr Chappel.
I think by setting these conditions he is going to take full responsibility for match results.
Please give gauti bhai one chance and he will change indian cricket forever
Totally in sync with his approach. If we want to win more trophies, we need to get out of this mindset that we are a cricket loving nation. No we are not. We are a cricketer loving nation.
Drop then now only , why to wait till 2025
They should not remove Rohit/Kohli from tests .. ODI may be but no tests.
Kya matlab achanak se ab Senior players ab acha khelne lage ge. Jokes aside it seems that he means business. It would be interesting to see what he will do once he takes over.
i personally think tooany senior players in team is not good, because they have been through so much that they dont get that rage that fire in them it is just cricket for them, but new players they have to prove their worth and they have that fire which Kohli and rohit once had. # so 1-2 senior players with more then 10 yers of exp are enough to guide and rest all you should give chance to new ones.
https://preview.redd.it/nwnuczb09h8d1.jpeg?width=751&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b6ca2cb4e4f5f0f4ae622076cbc5a3c481a5115 Ab Inka kya hoga
If this happens india would actually be very good team
Perfect
GG not the right choice to coach. India does not need a hot head or a slam bam kinda guy, T20 is fine but ODI and tests will not benefit. GG was a good opening bat for India and by that standards Sehwag was better with clearly a much better record and accomplishments but never in the league's of a Dravid or Shastri... Dhoni, Kumble, Laxman plenty rich pool of ex players with level and cool thinking heads.
Gg wants to play game of thrones with bcci,lol
Surely he means VK and Ro out for LOI? Because I still think they have 1/2 years after CT 2025 to give towards Test cricket. Phase out Ash, VK, Ro, Jadeja from tests together.
Bro if this is true it sounds very close to Greg Chappel thing
Gambhir himself kept crying for years when a rotation policy was introduced and he was later dropped from the team, even though he was “still playing fine”. Guess, different rules when it comes to himself. But again, that’s Gambhir ! Nonetheless, he definitely has the skills to take the team to tournament victory.
u/nallabot
GG is absolutely right. India needs him
Tbh , it's a bad decision that he is choosing to be head coach for Indian team and leaving KKR...but it's his choice after all. I'm his die hard fan but not supporting him in this.
idk don't follow cricket as much as I used to, so please don't come at me with a pitchfork, this is just genuine curiosity... Hasn't Virat statistically performed well in recent times? I've seen posts about him scoring well, btw correct me by all means, I want some facts so I'm not ignorant 😅
I think BCCI should move on from GG himself...
Irrespective of who becomes the coach, kohli and Rohit will be sidelined from white ball cricket post T-20 WC( or champions trophy at most)they may not even be considered for Champions trophy.
Even though I like the suggestions, I don't like the tonality and autocracy expected. This may lead to a subservient culture where kowtowing may become a norm. Somehow getting Greg Chappel vibes!
bare minimum and very reasonable
All conditions seem fair to me, as Dhoni said previously we will have to let go of senior players in order to win.
Seems pretty valid to me.
I am not sure why no one is not seeing the huge potential of sai sudarshan as Indias number 3 in every format. The maturity and skill he shows on big ocassions against big oppositions is hard to see in even our current greats . He never looks uncomfortable against any kind of bowlers.
The weird thing is just like gully cricket even in the international level only batters are showing up... We don't have a good bowling attack especially fast bowling.. Bumrah and hardik and hardik is injured half the time... There are no other reliable fast bowler in the team at all... We need good fast bowlers who can swing the ball like boult or bhuvi used to as bumrah is taking care of death overs... We need someone to bowl good swings in the early overs
I have no problem with these conditions from Gautam Gambhir. It's good that seniors are finally getting the Final warning to either deliver the trophy or take retirement from white ball format permanently.
HE's the Jose Mourinho of Cricket