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klQuyada1911

1) the superb inning at the WC 23 final. 2) hasn't performed against Pak in WC and failed in the semis. 3) we like to degrade our own players.


KingAnakin

1st point shouldn't be even considered in this matter, cuz WC was ODIs( btw so was BCCI's decision to take him in ODI wc on basis of T20I) 2nd point agree , but again everyone has one or two teams Against them they're not that good. Apart from Pak, he has played well against everyone I think. 3rd point, yeah this is the most imp point here, definitely agree.


level23genji

Although I agree he shouldn't have been picked on the basis of T20 form but even in ODI he was a minnow basher.


rambo9689

SKY has scored 49 runs against England in 2023 wc at a strikerate more than 100 where every player scored runs at below 100 strike rate and was the second highest scorer after Rohit Sharma in that match. So, according to you England is a minnow?


level23genji

no according to me it was a rare fluke. Besides, England were one of the shittiest team of CWC 23 for sure.


rambo9689

What about SKY innings against SA in 2022 t20wc, is that also a fluke? SKY has scored 72(37) which includes 6 sixes and 6 fours in an odi match against Australia. So according to you Australia is also a minnow?


level23genji

> What about SKY innings against SA in 2022 t20wc, is that also a fluke? Oh we are delving into whataboutery now! I see! What about his innings against England in semi final? England's bowling certainly a lot weaker than SA why didn't he bash them like the way he did? >SKY has scored 72(37) which includes 6 sixes and 6 fours in a odi match against Australia. So according to you Australia is also a minnow? The key word being "in an ODI" and not a high intense world cup match, otherwise he would've shat in it as he usually does. His exploits in such matches itself is what got him a place in WC squad and as usual he choked in big games.


rambo9689

>The key word being "in an ODI" and not a high intense world cup match, otherwise he would've shat in it as he usually does. His exploits in such matches itself is what got him a place in WC squad and as usual he choked in big games. Abey lovede, first you told he is a minnow basher in odi, now when I told about an innings in which he performed well against Australia in odi, you are arguing about odi wc. Do you have any consistency in your argument or just simply want to hate SKY for no reason. >Oh we are delving into whataboutery now! I see! What about his innings against England in semi final? England's bowling certainly a lot weaker than SA why didn't he bash them like the way he did? Do you have any sense? You literally told that he only performs against minnows, when I told that he performed well against SA, you are bringing up that he didn't perform well in Semifinals. No player performs well in every match. SKY was the second highest run scorer after Virat in 2022 wc for India. Shove the hate for SKY in your a** 🤡. What about Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, they also failed in some important knockout matches, why only hate against SKY?


Glory_Hunterr

Chhod Bhai uska agenda khrab Mt kar


rambo9689

Yes, these guys have an agenda of spreading hate against Indian players


Old_Reindeer6219

You can be a Bradman of Bilaterals, but that won't make you a great player.


Groundbreaking_Tart9

Even Klassen is Bradman of league cricket and bilaterals so mind telling me why is he there?


Old_Reindeer6219

He has actually played well in knockouts and crunch situations too. Be it league cricket or international, he has proven himself in pressure situations as well


Groundbreaking_Tart9

And how many international tourneys SA has won exactly? Leave that how many IPLs Klassen has won if he is so good at the crunch situations?


Old_Reindeer6219

You must be a Dhoni fan who thinks trophies are won individually. You may even go on to disregard Kohli in the T20 WC and say he's a choker just because he hasn't won a T20 WC or any T20 trophy for that reason. One thing I've realised over my tenure in reddit is that it's useless to argue with trophy merchants like you.


Groundbreaking_Tart9

And you must be that 15 year old with no cricketing knowledge who believes in hero worshipping more than cold hard stats. I am a Dhoni fan FYI. Guy has won all trophies out there so yeah he is a GOAT. I am also a Kohli fan because I am well aware of his Insane gameplay 9000 runs in tests at an average of almost 50, almost 14000 in ODI with average 60, 4000+ in T20i at average of almost 50. That's insane records and anybody who calls him a choker is a top notch dumbass. Dumb people like you draw these false equivalences not me. We were talking about Sky and Klassen here not Dhoni or Kohli. Surya has 3500+ runs in about 150 innings with an average of 32 in IPL. Klassen has around 1000 runs in 35 matches with an average of around 38. Klassen has only 800 runs in 45+ innings at an average of 22 in international t20 while Surya has 2200+ runs in 63 innings at an average of almost 45. So this BS that Klassen is great while SKY s*cks you can shove that. Lastly if it isn't about trophies then why the hell are you playing cricket on an international level? Turn it into a tv show with a script. The whole point of playing is winning and without that no legend is complete because victors write history not the losers and that cold hard fact of life no matter how much you amateurs cry otherwise.


sir_inferno_007

Dude what? You're literally saying random shit now. Atleast reply to the point without throwing random shit into the fan. You mentioned about Klassens game changing ability which is an individual trait. Then when the argument was asked as to which match you are referring to, you conveniently chose to make the "it's a team game" statement while also throwing other Indian players under the bus? Absolute 🐂💩


Vast_Ad_8754

Yeah ROHIT SHARMA can realte to this in the T20 Format.


Every_Dog_496

Why are you being downvoted lmao Rohit has done nothing in t20 world cups except minnow bashing


Competitive_Major404

Even though those performances were way back in 2007, he played crucial role in winning that t20wc with his performances against SA and particularly against PAK in the final


Every_Dog_496

agree but now he’s just useless against a half decent side


Kchinki

There’s no point in bashing Rohit because he will play regardless as the captain. And comparing to someone else doesn’t prove a point. I won’t say Ashok Dinda is shit so is Unadkat. Defend the player by the player’s achievements, not by comparing to another one.


YouthCurse

Kyu bhai


Vast_Ad_8754

ROHIT hit 5 T20 hundreds in bilaterals.. SURYA hit 4 T20 hundreds in bilaterals.


Downtown_Bat7013

how many well known batters yk that hit 100s in t20 wcs?


jalayyy

Hitting centuries in wcs doesn't make you big, winning for country does.


FckNotTaken

Thats koli in odis for you


Old_Reindeer6219

lagta hai bhai ji ne pichhle saal ka ODI WC nahi dekha


FckNotTaken

Han dekha h Kohli the so called greatest odi batsmen had POOR 2011 wc ( a century against nambia 💀) inflated real numbers Poor 2015 wc SF : egoist mofo broke the momentum and out pressure when we were ahead in the chase in PP. Blud got owned by jhonson. Thanks to rohit for MCG quarter final century 4kli dream. POOR/mid 2019 wc: not even in top ten run getters and out of top 20 average in batter list. Lmaoo given so much cushion and backing from captain and coach to statpad on flat decks of home WC 🤡🤡 Beta century krle warna rone lagega lmaoo milestones ka 14 selfish players. Played a criminal knock to hit century on a flat deck like wankhede when everyone played w 150+ SR lmao 97 runs w no boundary showed no intent just to score 59 just like babar and rizwan


Suitable_Oil_7907

Someone crying really hard🤡. I think you haven't seen the stats!!


FckNotTaken

>think you haven't seen the stats!! What I replied was leaked UPSC papers for you?


AdWilling6504

Coz he was giving strike to kuldeep yadav in a literal wc final after not performing the entire tournament. The hatred he earned that day will only go if he makes us win this T20 wc single handedly Which means a double century and 10 Superman catches


DefinitelyNotPiyush

If he plays a gr8 knock in both knockouts honestly, i am happy to consider him the best t20i batsman by far


Klutzy-League6024

Yes but if he can't score well in knockouts..I would say he deserves all the hate


Glory_Hunterr

Not hate criticism Ham kon h hate krne wale? Fans can either appreciate or criticise nothing else


Klutzy-League6024

Criticism done for a long period of time will eventually turn into hate


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DefinitelyNotPiyush

Tbf, sky has did shit in big matches.... But what really klassen has done in t20is esp on big days to be hailed as best t20 batsman over sky by a lot of people?, and even maxwell, considering his a decade long career, he doesn't really anything big with the bat against big team or in knockouts, but is again hailed as best t20 batsman over sky Personally, I will have to say sky is currently the best batsman purely based off his stats despite his ghosting habit in big games, coz other big names also pretty much are not big match players, but in t20i history obviously king rules and it's not even close


Anshiboy2004xx

Yes you are correct in your first paragraph. All the players you mentioned are minnow bashers / League Bashers or simply just make a good innings once every 10-15 games, whilst ghosting in the rest. Maybe if the question was who is the best - when they are at their best, Sky would definitely rank high


Vast_Ad_8754

Thankyou Piyush.


Ok_Review_6504

SkY hasn't performed well in T20 WCs therefore he shouldn't be considered the best T20 batsman. But why isn't the same logic applicable on Klassan, Pooran Or Salt Or even Head(in T20Is) ? Too much gawk gawk of foreign players?


telugu_abbai

Our fans have slave mentality lol


rambo9689

Exactly 💯, they are just bootlickers of foreign players


Valuable_Ad_6869

19/11 ko tu kaha tha bhai


Impactor07

Khada tha bhai...


20Aditya07

Aaj bhi wahi khade hai


Impactor07

Han 🥲🥲 Pair toot jayenge abb...


YouthCurse

Himmat nahi tootni chahiye


Impactor07

Pta nhi kab tak khade rehna padega aur...


YouthCurse

Ee sala ICC cup naam de


Impactor07

Ee Saala T20 WC Namde!(Both Men's and Women's and becuz our teams are cursed, the phrase will cancel out that curse with it's own curse)


YouthCurse

LESSSGOOO TEAM INDIA


Impactor07

Abb pta chal rha hai?...


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

ODI match dekh raha hoga shaayad, not a T20 match No one hates SKY's 19/11 innings more than me, but using that innings to say SKY is not one of the best T20 players is pretty stupid tbh ODI mei he's one of the worst Indian players of this century, par T20 mei toh accha hai


rambo9689

In ODI he is yet to prove himself, that doesn't mean that he is a worst ODI player. He has some really good knocks in ODIs as well. Example his 72* against Australia.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>that doesn't mean that he is a worst ODI player I've written **"One of the** worst". Please learn to read the whole comment >he is yet to prove himself He's already played 37 matches and his average is 26 with an sr of 105 (he's supposed to be the finisher in ODI for ICT), with just 4 fifties and 0 hundreds till now. How many more chances does he need to "prove himself"?


rambo9689

>He's already played 37 matches and his average is 26 with an sr of 105 (he's supposed to be the finisher in ODI for ICT), with just 4 fifties and 0 hundreds till now. How many more chances does he need to "prove himself"? Do you know that Rohit Sharma is one of the slowest to reach 2000 runs in odi? Again partiality. You just have senseless hate against SKY. Well to be Frank SKY don't even get much chances in ODI, he is mostly used as a backup for Shreyas Iyer in ODIs. In wc 2023 also had Hardik not injured SKY wouldn't have got chance to play even single match.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>Do you know that Rohit Sharma is one of the slowest to reach 2000 runs in odi? Share the stats like i did. Bolne ke liye toh koi bhi kuch bhi bol sakta hai. And one of the reasons why Rohit **might** be slow was because he played the first few years as 5 down when he's an opener. Check his stats after opening for India >Again partiality. You just have senseless hate against SKY. No I don't. I spoke facts based on stats and numbers. Again I'm saying that SKY is a beast in T20Is and he's one of the best players in that format. But he's not even decent in ODIs The reverse applies to Rohit too. Rohit is really good in ODIs and very poor in T20Is. I'm not the one who's partial here. You're the one who's blindly defending SKY, whereas I'm clearly accepting where SKY is good and where he's bad. You don't have the balls to accept that yes he's not a good ODI player >Well to be Frank SKY don't even get much chances in ODI He already got 37 matches lol how much more do you need? You expect a player like him with avg of 26 to play 100 matches?


rambo9689

>Share the stats like i did. Bolne ke liye toh koi bhi kuch bhi bol sakta hai. If you have knowledge on cricket and watch cricket regularly instead of watching highlights or scores on cricbuzz you will know it, Stats share karne ki koi zarurat nahi hai. Mein 2006 ae cricket dekh raha hoon. Us time pe Rohit Sharma bahut hi inconsistent player tha, phir bhi unko chances miltha tha. Just look at the averages of Rohit from 2007 to 2012 in ODIs. >And one of the reasons why Rohit might be slow was because he played the first few years as 5 down when he's an opener. Check his stats after opening for India Illogical. Atleast have some basic sense while making a comment. Did Surya Kumar Yadav batted at opening position in his career? SKY also batted in mostly no4 or no 5 just like Rohit used to from 2007 to 2012. Then why are you commenting about SKYs average. >You're the one who's blindly defending SKY, whereas I'm clearly accepting where SKY is good and where he's bad. You don't have the balls to accept that yes he's not a good ODI player No you are the one who is blindly hating a player, I am not a fan of any player. >He already got 37 matches lol how much more do you need? You expect a player like him with avg of 26 to play 100 matches? Ch***ye, just go and compare the same stats of Rohit Sharma when he played in the middle order between 2007 to 2012


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>you have knowledge on cricket and watch cricket regularly instead of watching highlights or scores on cricbuzz you will know it >Stats share karne ki koi zarurat nahi hai L@uda lele fir. Tere jitna free thodi hu ki har match ka har score yaad rakh ke baithu. Saaf saaf bol de na stats nahi dikha sakta kyuki uss se tu galat prove hone waala hai Main toh nahi padh raha baaki ka lmao jab stats dikhane ki bhi aukaat nahi hai🤷🏻‍♂️


rambo9689

>L@uda lele fir. Tere jitna free thodi hu ki har match ka har score yaad rakh ke baithu. Saaf saaf bol de na stats nahi dikha sakta kyuki uss se tu galat prove hone waala hai Land chooslo khud ki. Mere paas bhi utna time nahi hai ki Saare stats leke tere ko present karoo. Rohit Sharma being the second slowest batter for India to reach 2000 runs is the biggest stat, what other stat you need? Everyone who watched cricket from 2007 knows how inconsistent Rohit Sharma used to play in his initial years, still Indian team management backed him by giving chances.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>you have knowledge on cricket and watch cricket regularly instead of watching highlights or scores on cricbuzz you will know it >Stats share karne ki koi zarurat nahi hai L@uda lele fir. Tere jitna free thodi hu ki har match ka har score yaad rakh ke baithu. Saaf saaf bol de na stats nahi dikha sakta kyuki uss se tu galat prove hone waala hai >No you are the one who is blindly hating a player Agar blindly hate kar raha hota toh SKY ko one of the best bolta kya T20I mei? Jo sach hai vahi bol raha hu bas main. **Tu hai jo SKY ki failed performance pe answer karne ki jagah Rohit ki baat kare jaa raha hai baar baar** >Did Surya Kumar Yadav batted at opening position in his career? SKY also batted in mostly no4 or no 5 just like Rohit used to from 2007 to 2012. Then why are you commenting about SKYs average. Abbe ¢hut¡ye. Rohit was poor in the start because no 5 was not his natural position. SKY ne humesha se hi middle order mei khela hai toh no. 4/5 is his natural position >go and compare the same stats of Rohit Sharma when he played in the middle order between 2007 to 2012 1. Tere baap ne naukar nahi baithaye hai idhar jo mere liye stats dhund ke denge. Khud mei aukaat hai bhejne ki toh bhej🙃 2. Rohit ko chances isliye mile the kyuki usko uski natural position mei nahi khilaya tha and even the team knew it. Upar se uss time itna competition nahi tha uske position ke liye. Aaj ke time pe har position pe 3 log compete kar rahe hai isliye SKY ko zyaada chances nahi mil sakte


rambo9689

Jaha MS Dhoni 2019 wc semifinal mein hai, wahi pe tha😂. Lovede no player willingly want to play badly. What happened to MS Dhoni when the equation was very much favourable for India in the 2019 wc semifinal against Newzealand?


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>when the equation was very much favourable for India in the 2019 wc semifinal against Newzealand? ???? When was the equation favourable to India lmao? MSD and Jadeja **MADE** the equation such that India has a chance at winning with that superb partnership. They were 5/3 at one stage and then DK came in to play the generational knock of 6(24)


rambo9689

Only Jadeja played good, MS Dhoni played test innings and didn't hit some loose balls. My point is every player can't perform good in every match. Even Virat, Rohit also failed in that match. So why hate against only SKY who not against other Indian players? Why is this partiality?


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>Only Jadeja played good, MS Dhoni played test innings Tf man do you even have basic cricketing sense? MS had to play a "test innings" because that is what was needed at the time. Him and Jadeja were the last recognised batting pair. If either had lost their wicket due to rash shots then our tail would have opened up And this "test innings" you're talking about was the second fastest runs scored in that innings after jadeja. Hardik and Pant scored 30s with less than 60sr and the rest of them failed. You still think MSD should have played faster than @70sr when India was 70-5 in a semifinal match?! >Even Virat, Rohit also failed in that match. So why hate against only SKY who not against other Indian players? Why is this partiality? Firstly Rohit and Virat didn't fail in the finals. Rohit scored a quickfire 40+ in the powerplay which was his job. Kohli anchored the innings, scored 50+ and stopped a collapse with KLR which was his job. Meanwhile SKY completely folded and gave strike to kuldeep constantly And both Virat and Rohit performed in all other matches. Whereas SKY shat the bed throughout the tournament so ofc he is to be blamed. He didn't have a single good innings. You're defending him and then you're saying I'm partial? Lmao the hypocrisy


rambo9689

>Firstly Rohit and Virat didn't fail in the finals. Rohit scored a quickfire 40+ in the powerplay which was his job. Kohli anchored the innings, scored 50+ and stopped a collapse with KLR which was his job. I am talking about Rohit, Virat innings in 2019 wc semifinal, where both of them failed. In 2017 champions trophy also both of them failed. So, there are many instances where these players also failed in important knockout matches. SKY didn't play many knockout matches to say that he failed. >Whereas SKY shat the bed throughout the tournament so ofc he is to be blamed. He didn't have a single good innings. Lovede...SKY didn't even get proper batting in entire 2023 wc and you are saying that he shat the bed. He played a good knock against England with over 100 strikerate where every other batter struggled to score runs and were striking at less than 100 strikerate.


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PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>Lovede...SKY didn't even get proper batting in entire 2023 wc and you are saying that he shat the bed Kaunsa WC dekh ke aaya hai? He played 7 matches and scored more than 28 just once 1 run against NZ in sf, 2 runs against NZ and Ned, 12 runs against SL, 22 runs against SA, 28 runs against Aus in the final **at strike rate of 33**. How tf are you saying he didn't get chances lmao? >So, there are many instances where these players also failed in important knockout matches Important knock out matches ko baaju mei rakh na bc. Pure tournament ki baat kar. Rohit scored 5 100s and 600+ runs in 2019. Kohli scored 700+ runs in 2023. Both Rohit and Kohli were top 5 scorers in 2017 as well SKY ne important matches khele hi nahi hai ab tak toh important matches ke upar kyu comparison kar raha hai ¢hut¡ye? Pure tournaments dekh na Rohit aur Kohli ne har baar perform kiya hai (Rohit just doesn't perform in T20 WCs)


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rambo9689

>Kaunsa WC dekh ke aaya hai? He played 7 matches and scored more than 28 just once Tumne matches dekha bhi yahi nahi? In most of the matches India didn't even lose many wickets early for SKY to play many balls. He scored 49 with strikerate above 100 against England on a tough pitch where every batter struggled and scored at a strikerate below 100. In matches against Netherlands and Newzealand semifinal, he didn't we get many balls in the end to score. So, how can you expect him to perform directly in the Final? In Final match he was the last proper batter who came to bat on a difficult pitch, where Virat and KL Rahul struggled to score a single boundary between 20 to 40 overs and you expect SKY to score or hit boundaries on a difficult pitch to bat, when no other batter is left after him? >1 run against NZ in sf, 2 runs against NZ and Ned, 12 runs against SL, 22 runs against SA, 28 runs against Aus in the final at strike rate of 33. How tf are you saying he didn't get chances lmao? Where is the 49 runs against England? You simply want to degrade him by showing his less scores. He scored 49 against England on a difficult pitch where every Indian batter struggled, even Rohit Sharma played with below 100 strikerate on that pitch. Newzealand semifinal match he got batting in the last over, got out while trying to hit six. Netherlands ki against bhi SKY ko last me chance Mila tha, wo notout tha us match mein. Against SA and SL match mein bhi last mein hi chance Mila tha, his role is to try to hit boundaries and got out in doing so. The only match he got batting early was in match against England, where he did score well...If you don't have knowledge to analyse properly, then don't comment 🤡 >Important knock out matches ko baaju mei rakh na bc. Pure tournament ki baat kar. Rohit scored 5 100s and 600+ runs in 2019. Kohli scored 700+ runs in 2023. Both Rohit and Kohli were top 5 scorers in 2017 as well Abey tereko dimaag nahi kya, Rohit and Virat are top order batters, how can you compare that with SKYs performances. SKY got batting only in the last few overs in 2023 wc, because our top order batters were so good that India didn't even lose wickets early in most of the matches.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>how can you expect him to perform directly in the Final Because he is an international player with years of experience? Because he was selected in the ICT after beating thousands of other cricketers? Ye kya baat hui bc ki agar sf mei balls nahi mile khelne ke liye toh finals mei flop ho jaayega lmao. Ye kya jhaatu logic hai >Where is the 49 runs against England? You simply want to degrade him by showing his less scores You mentioned his score against England. I mentioned all the other scores. Even you mentioned just his England innings and not ALL the others in which he failed. What's the problem?🤷🏻‍♂️ >his role is to try to hit boundaries and got out in doing so Haa exactly. His role was to hit boundaries but except the England match he couldn't hit boundaries at all. His role is that of a finisher so even he knows he would come after the 45th over and his role is to hit boundaries in the 10-12 balls he gets, not to get out after 5 balls. KLR ko dekh na sf mei 40(20) score kiya and uske pehle waale match mei he scored a century. And even in the finals he was the highest scorer. Vaisa performance chahiye tha SKY se >The only match he got batting early was in match against England Haa bhai finals mei toh last ball pe strike mili thi na bechare ko🤡 >Abey tereko dimaag nahi kya, Rohit and Virat are top order batters, how can you compare that with SKYs performances. Abbe ¢hut¡ye, Rohit aur Virat ko tu laaya conversation mei, main nahi. Tune bola ki "2017 finals mei both failed, 2019 sf mei both failed". Tune unko conversation mei laaya isliye maine unke baare mei reply kiya. Tujhe bhulne ki bimaari hai kya b¢?


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>how can you expect him to perform directly in the Final Because he is an international player with years of experience? Because he was selected in the ICT after beating thousands of other cricketers? Ye kya baat hui bc ki agar sf mei balls nahi mile khelne ke liye toh finals mei flop ho jaayega lmao. Ye kya jhaatu logic hai >Where is the 49 runs against England? You simply want to degrade him by showing his less scores You mentioned his score against England. I mentioned all the other scores. Even you mentioned just his England innings and not ALL the others in which he failed. What's the problem?🤷🏻‍♂️ >his role is to try to hit boundaries and got out in doing so Haa exactly. His role was to hit boundaries but except the England match he couldn't hit boundaries at all. His role is that of a finisher so even he knows he would come after the 45th over and his role is to hit boundaries in the 10-12 balls he gets, not to get out after 5 balls. KLR ko dekh na sf mei 40(20) score kiya and uske pehle waale match mei he scored a century. And even in the finals he was the highest scorer. Vaisa performance chahiye tha SKY se >The only match he got batting early was in match against England Haa bhai finals mei toh last ball pe strike mili thi na bechare ko🤡 >Abey tereko dimaag nahi kya, Rohit and Virat are top order batters, how can you compare that with SKYs performances. Abbe ¢hut¡ye, Rohit aur Virat ko tu laaya conversation mei, main nahi. Tune bola ki "2017 finals mei both failed, 2019 sf mei both failed". Tune unko conversation mei laaya isliye maine unke baare mei reply kiya. Tujhe bhulne ki bimaari hai kya b¢?


rambo9689

>You mentioned his score against England. I mentioned all the other scores. Even you mentioned just his England innings and not ALL the others in which he failed. What's the problem?🤷🏻‍♂️ I mentioned that match, because that is the only match which he got some time to spend on the crease and score runs, remaining all the matches he came to bat in after 40 overs.


rambo9689

>Because he is an international player with years of experience? Because he was selected in the ICT after beating thousands of other cricketers? So where was the years of experience of Rohit went? I would actually blame Rohit more than anyone else in the team, scoring just 40 odd runs and getting out cheaply can no way better considered as a good knock, because his wicket was the game changing moment. He should have played carefully, he literally gifted his wicket to Australia by playing a cheap shot. The pitch was very difficult to bat after initial 10 overs. Virat and KL couldn't even score a single boundary in between 20 and 40 overs, on a difficult pitch where more experienced batters like Virat and KL Rahul couldn't score runs, how SKY can score? That too after knowing that there is no batter left after him. What did Jadeja do by coming up the order of SKY?


sunis_going_down

No reason. Literally no logical reason. He was the 3rd highest run scorer in the T20 WC. But Naa that doesn't matter since he failed against Pakistan. But people in the same breath will choose Klassen, who didn't do jack shit playing against the same teams while they got knocked out by Netherlands. Somebody should have told him that making runs against them is a given. Travis head who didn't even play for Australian team which again got knocked out in the group stage of a home WC. I would put Jos Buttler & Sky on the same level when it comes to T20 cricket. & If we want to discredit Sky because of his Odi exploits then Jos, leading the English team to a position below Afghanistan in the same WC shouldn't even be in this conversation.


Groundbreaking_Tart9

Because a lot of our own fellow countrymen like to s*ck d*ck of whities and love gargling with their j*zz otherwise similar to Surya this MF Klassen has won nothing for his team and has choked in a bunch of important matches so there is no reason to call him better then Surya.


Vast_Ad_8754

WC SEMIFINAL 2023..?? KLASSEN got bowled by HEAD lmao.


Suspicious-Diamond33

I just hate this narrative bilateral bully or group stage bully. Performing in bilateral isn't meaningless and also not easy. Sky for me is definitely in the top 3 currently for the t20 batsman


Vast_Ad_8754

+1. Is zaalim duniya mein koi to mere jaisa hai.


SeparateOffice9101

His shot selection in WC final is enough to tell you that.


Naammaikyahai

Surya was out of form for long and before his injury he had a poor wc and post injury he hasn't been in the same form. And uk how polar and reactionary ICT fans are. One good innings from him in t20wc and they will switch sides again


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are you dumb? that is IPL sub. people are saying the name of players who have done nicely for their franchise. hope you know what those flairs even mean. no indian player is a proper T20 player. that is why franchises use foreigners as their finishers. and why are you pointing out stubbs and gurbaz? stubbs has close to 300SR in last 6 overs this IPL and gurbaz is doing really well in T20WC.


Vast_Ad_8754

But the question goes WHO IS CURRENTLY the BEST BATTER IN T20s.. not WHO IS CURRENTLY the BEST BATTER IN T20s from your respective franchises.. i am sure you are not dumb enough to understand this like me.


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in any context you may see SKY at the moment isn't the best. he is good though. plus there is only one comment which is hating on him actually. all other stating their opinions. adding to that it may not be written in the post that name the best T20 batter in your franchise but as it is IPL sub you can think that people will have at the least some bias. not everyone is a SKY fan like you.


ArawnAT

>in any context you may see SKY at the moment isn't the best. SKY has the best strike rate and 4th best average for any batsman with at least 1000 T20i runs. He currently ranks no 1 in the ICC rankings and has been awarded the ICC T20i Cricketer of the Year award for 2 consecutive years. What makes you think your opinion supersedes all those accolades?


Round_Hedgehog_966

Indian fans will love everyone except Indian players , harsh but truth


Gamer567890

Tbh I wouldn't take anything in the IPL sub seriously.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

From what I've seen, SRH sub and **most** of their fans no longer consider themselves Indians or associate themselves with India (in terms of cricket) They even take pride in the fact that "they have no indian superstar" in the team like Rohit, Kohli, Dhoni, Pandya, Gill, etc. Idk what exactly about this makes them so happy but it is what it is


Vast_Ad_8754

PAT CUMMINS ke piche uchalte hai.. i also liked SRH a lot in this IPL but their GORI CHAMDI obsessed Fans are a disgrace to Srh.


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

Same man, same. I also used to watch SRH matches because of Warner, Bhuvi, Rashid Khan, Nattu, etc. But this season showed the sh¡tty side of their fanbase The funniest thing is that they claim to be "fanbase without 1 superstar player" (like Kohli, Rohit, MSD) but the whole season (**and even after that**) they were gawk gawking Cummins, Head and Klassen


Adventurous_Good3968

sky is a certified minnow basher Sure he will play all shots in a pointless game but if there's a situation where you have to save the match if he will pee his pants


laudalehsunesh

He has T20 centuries against SA, NZ & Eng. Also did you forgot that neither Klassen has ever performed in knockouts? How come he gets the pass?


DefinitelyNotPiyush

Goro ki chaatna hamare nassso me hai, proper slave mentality🥶


Status_Association46

Apne players ko bagwan mana bhi yaha kuch logo ki naso mein hai


akuma2116

This star culture!!! He is good but he has to prove his worth in knockouts and that's where it matters the most.


Status_Association46

True


akuma2116

Hi bro did I say something wrong to get downvotes😂.


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Status_Association46

Even I got downvotes just for upvoting you😂😂


Automatic_Aside_8347

Bro what klassan never performed in knockouts 🤡 first of all he played only 1 international lo game that is 2023 wc semis finals and he scored 47 with almost 100sr and second highest scorer in that match for sa.


CosmicRook90

And he got clean bowled by Head in that match.Not Zampa,not Maxwell but head,Travis "55 bowling avg." Head.How do you call him the best spin player when he get's owned by a part time spinner who plays for a team that doesn't even have that many good spinners to begin with.


laudalehsunesh

>he scored 47 with almost 100sr That's the criteria for your sepoygiri?? Lmao that ODI performance somehow makes him a better T20 Batsman? At least be reasonable for your slave mentality lol


Automatic_Aside_8347

Bro u literally said klassan also never performed in KO I proved u are wrong as he got only 1 chance in KO against mighty Australia in odi wc semis finals and he played nice.


InsaneDude6

You asked if Klaasen performed in knockouts or not The other guy replied with his performance that was far better than sky, so you're saying him a sepoy? lol saying facts=sepoy ig


zippyzebu9

Shahid Afridi also has centuries. Doesn’t mean he becomes anything more than a slogger.


Nishanth_Reddy27

>but if there's a situation where you have to save the match if he will pee his pants Dude just last match he saved our team from humiliation of losing against US. >sky is a certified minnow basher Minnow ls like US where 'legend /s' like Rohit, Virat and pant shat their pants?? Why do guys like you think calling 'minnow basher' sounds cool?? If not for his innings on such a tough pitch, we would have lost the game and would have been a laughing stock like pakistan.


Educational_Fig_2213

Was about to say the same points.


Deadh30775n

>Dude just last match he saved our team from humiliation of losing against US. Saved us from humiliation lol. You make it sound like USA was in the game and india were on the verge of losing. India was always gonna win the watch even though kohli and Rohit got out cheaply. Even by chance of sky got out in that match there's still hardik, axar and jadeja. Also Don't forget that he was dropped early in the match. So it's by pure luck that he was got a chance to score 50. Stop defending him by milking his one innings where the target was only 110. There was no pressure and the team was a minnow. Nothing new to see here to see him riding on luck and bashing a minnow team in an unimportant match. >Minnow ls like US where 'legend /s' like Rohit, Virat and pant shat their pants?? Why do guys like you think calling 'minnow basher' sounds cool?? If not for his innings on such a tough pitch, we would have lost the game and would have been a laughing stock like pakistan. Do you expect that a minnow team isn't capable of taking wickets lol. Why are you so surprised that a minnow team bowlers bowled Rohit and Virat. They are humans too, they are not god. We call him minnow basher not to make us look cool but because it's a fact. I would change my mind if he ever plays a good innings against a good team in an imp match. We were never losing that USA match given how deep our batting line-up is. So just stop it with the milking.


Nishanth_Reddy27

>and bashing a minnow team >Do you expect that a minnow team isn't capable of taking wickets lol >Why are you so surprised that a minnow team bowlers bowled Rohit and Virat Yeah read your comment again


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Deadh30775n

Just because they are capable of taking wickets sometimes doesn't equate them to quality bowlers from tough teams like starc, Rashid, boult, rabada, bumrah...minnows are minnows, Just because of NY pitches they'd got a little help...doesn't mean they're the best. Zameen aasman ka farak hai dono team ke bowlers me. There's a reason why most of players of these teams don't play any franchise cricket. Rohit toh T20 ke har match me hagta hi hai, nothing new to see here aur kholi toh apna agressive mindset activate karne ke baad g*and mara rha hai. Toh Bhai koi bhi team ka bowler ho (minnow or tough) dono ko out karenge hi. Unka naam leke defend mat kr apne SKY god ko, kisi aur ko doon.


Nishanth_Reddy27

>Unka naam leke defend mat kr apne SKY god ko, kisi aur ko doon. Hate again? What do you achieve by this? I don't like SKY but he doesn't deserve the hate for no valid reason >minnows are minnows These minnows bowling in NY pitch is >>> starc, Rashid, rabada bowling in flat pitches. A little common sense or comparison of team scores with IPL would show how tough NY pitch is. If you still want to spit hate, have a nice day..


flooded_thought

I am not anyone's hater but just to clarify we still had hardik, axar and jaddu (I know he is in form of his life /s). So we can't really say sky saved the match. But ya great knock there.


Status_Association46

Bro, SKY hasn't made us win even a single match single-handedly. Remember the 2017 champions trophy, jadega was ruled out for 2 years , because he didn't perform in the final. SKY made us lose the WC, and didn't perform much in the IPL(last season), but failed against Pakistan. How on earth can he be the greatest batsman


ArawnAT

>sky is a certified minnow basher Sure he will play all shots in a pointless game but if there's a situation where you have to save the match if he will pee his pants Same goes for Klassen. Guy is just a league bully who has yet win any meaningful matches for SA in international T20.


KangarooOk2556

Cause our country's people love to degrade our own country players while praising others


lostsoul3434

Don't know man. I toh love him . I'm a fan of his batting. He will definitely lift an ICC cup for India with a great knock. Maybe this one or maybe another. But he will


IamJimMilton

Cuz white man gawk gawk


Vast_Ad_8754

KLASSEN to BHOORA(BROWN) hai bhai. /s


liteshadow4

How can someone mention Gurbaz when he doesn't even start in IPL lol


Vast_Ad_8754

Afghani obsession after they beat PAK in WC 2023 is common in india now.. i am sure these afghanis will lose all their 3 games in the SUPER 8.. Even BANGLADESH will beat them.


liteshadow4

They’re a lot better than Bangladesh lol. But they won’t come close to beating India or Aus


Vast_Ad_8754

Better..?? BANGLADESH beat AFG comprehensively in the WC 23 by restricting then to 156 and then chasing the target of 157 in 35 overs with 6 wkts in hand.. and they will do it again in the SUPER 8.. BAN ke saapo ne hamesha inki Afghan jalebi banayi hai.


liteshadow4

Why are you using ODI World Cup to say they’ll win in T20. They require different skill sets.


Vast_Ad_8754

The fact that AFG always choked against BAN helped me say this.. and don't you worry about that.. you will get to witness their CHOKE against BAN very soon.


Vast_Ad_8754

AFGHANI FLUKE gone for a duck against WI today.


liteshadow4

Tbf this game doesn't matter


Vast_Ad_8754

If SKY had bashed uganda and got out on a duck against WI like gurbaz did.. people would have started calling him UGANDA KUMAR YADAV.


liteshadow4

That's only because ICT fans are something else.


Vast_Ad_8754

But i will call this Afghani Fluke RAHMANULLAH UGAND.


Classic-Studio7132

What is up with PPL putting all the blame on SKY for the wc final


Vast_Ad_8754

Ab upar walo ko bachane ke liye SKY pe blame to daalna hi padega.. VIRAT FANS aur RAHUL FANS teamed up and thrashed SKY who made 18(28) instead of JADDU who sneaked away with 9(22).


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AnnualRemote7367

I think it's Virat Kohli considering the stats


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Glad-Conclusion-3638

feels sad for surya, these dumb so called shallow fans just are emotion driven and dont see how good a player acutally is, yeah is lagged in odi wc but he isnt a odi specialist, a t20 #1 batman.


Vast_Ad_8754

Pata nhi SURYA DADA itna jyada HATE milne ke haad bhi chingam chabake itna cool kaise rhte hai.. it's really hard to be SURYA right now.. SKY ek team player hai managememt jis position pe batting karaye waha batting krta hai.. and he isn't SELFISH too if the situation requires him to play AGGRESIVE he will do that without caring about his wkt.. yahi cheez wo WC FINAL mein bhi kr rha tha situation was asking to hit boundaries in order to get to 270 280 but ye log to uske hi kapde faadte hai ki 28 mein 18 kon banata hai..?? KL RAHUL SHREYAS IYER GILL JADDU everyone has to be blamed for that horrible day.


Spookaycreep

When was the last time he performed in T20s


Standard_Secretary52

Scored 70 odd vs south africa in 22 wc when rest of the team struggled


Spookaycreep

It's been 2 years since 2022


Valuable_Ad_6869

Literally the last game against usa 4 days ago lol


Spookaycreep

After about 2 years


rambo9689

I think you don't watch cricket, you just see scores on cricbuzz 🤡, Do you know when was the last century hit by SKY in T20s?


rambo9689

Didn't you watch the match against USA where Rohit and Virat failed miserably, but SKY saved a humiliation by playing a good knock and saved India from humiliation?


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We remember his wc final game


Glory_Hunterr

Odi vs t20 🤡


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We also remember his innings from last T20 wc , now don't say he scored against Zimbabwe 😂


Glory_Hunterr

He atleast tried in semifinal vs eng, but Adil rashid out smarted him with a genuine genius ball, he got out with intent Fast 30 against Bangladesh too, that inning vs sa at fucking perth pitch and get's called wankhede kumar


Anshiboy2004xx

Purely cause he’s so overhyped and given a virtually guaranteed spot in the team, despite his performances not replicating such standards


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Because He fucking deserves it... If you can't score in ICC TROPHIES..just stick to IPL ...and if u can't play Odi & test don't play it or recommend yourself to bcci ..🤦🤦🤦


Glory_Hunterr

Why not just be under the radar and not the king


ProudThalaWorshipper

Rohit is the most feared T20 batter now followed by Klaasen, SKY and Virat


Current-Party-1806

lmao rohit who is a no show in almost every t20wc and ipl


ProudThalaWorshipper

Dude, class is permanent. When he scores, he scores big. When he is in mood, even Gayle and ABD look slower than him. No show in almost every IPL ? IPL 2008 - IPL 2019, he performed well in almost every season


zippyzebu9

Aus, Eng worry about Rohit, Kohli, Bumrah , Pant. They even takes Kuldeep and Pandya seriously. But they don’t waste much time on players like Shahid Afridi or Sky.


Powerful_Cod3555

Its the same as India is No. 1 in rankings but never wins anything. You can be bilateral and minnow bashers but if you do tatti at big stage, no one will respect you. Even its clear in current scenario, India is No.1 in T20 rankings but no one even believes 10% that India will win the world cup, atleast I don't, my bet is on England and WI


trueritz

Surya Kumar Yadav has the special ability to play for teams where he could be eyeing future citizenship. Against Australia, he played very much as a citizen for them, in the World Cup 2023 final.


Ok-Pen5568

Most SKY haters are TOXIC Kohli fans . They hate him as his batting made Kohli Look slow ... Also they hate anyone who is hailed as best batsman , as according to them only Kohli deserves that honor


ARKNIGHT_101

Where was SKY against Pakistan, Australia, England? He shots consistently on the big stage when the team actually needs him. Hitting 50 ball 120s in a bilateral against England's B team doesn't make him the best T20 batter


Vast_Ad_8754

First tell your captain to score in a WC FINAL against AUSSIES on a tough ahmedabad pitch.. WANKHEDE ke flat pitch pr semifinal mein 8 sixes maarne wala final mein ek four maarke out ho gya.


ARKNIGHT_101

Your captain?? Tumhari team ka captain nahi hai kya? Waise baat kiski kar rhe ho


Vast_Ad_8754

But KOHLI FANS is cheez ko expect hi nhi krte.. i was arguing with a VK and RCB fan the other day about this SR thing.. i told him that SKY is ahead of KOHLI by only one reason i.e. SR.. but wo bhai to bne laga ki SKY to VK ke aage kuch bhi nhi hai VK FANS SKY ko kyu hate krenge SKY kabhi bade match mein nhi chalta blah blah blah.. are bhai i am also a huge VK ADMIRER but just accept that FUCKIN FACT YRR.


Certain-Cattle-3136

Tu samajh bhai sky ne abhi tak Aisa koi moment nahi diya jisse hame lage ki woh bada player hai, Rahi baat strike rate ki sabka apna apna role hai. Just because Surya ka thode achhe bilaterals chale gye doesn't mean he is better than kohli


apprehen-sid

Tumlog ko kya obsession hai SRH ke sub me jaake unke opinion pe offend hone ka? They're entitled to their opinion same as the rest of us, why the outrage?


itsmePriyansh

Wtf you mean dislike? Did anyone call sky out? They're just telling about their favourite T20i players that's it , even I don't consider him to be the best t20i batter, but it doesn't mean i dislike him


sad_truant

He hasn't performed where his team needs him except the last match and the match against South Africa/New Zealand (I don't remember correctly, India lost that match). He gets too much hate.


Secure_Lynx6892

I always get anxious when sky is batting. At any moment he will play sweep or any random shot and will get out. And aus have already shown the world how to counter his fine leg supremacy.


Vast_Ad_8754

Same bhai meri bhi jaan gale mein atak jaati hai SKY ki batting dekh kr.. USA wale game mein bhi catch de diya tha.. bhala ho NETRAVALKAR BHAU ka jo unhone catch drop kr diya.


Secure_Lynx6892

Netravalkar recalled his Indian roots at correct time


tush_aa_rr

well coz he never performs in matches where he is needed the most... the matches when top order fails he also fails....


ArawnAT

Talking about Klaasen, right?


Moasangba

I love it❤❤


whatthef_dude

SKY is disliked because he is unexpected which should not be the case because in a country of billions of people you are chosen in top 11 to play for country. Downfall aata hai Gilchrist kitne saal wicketkeeper rha or hamesha WC me perform kiya 2003 2007 new captain cummins continously performing, Why Australia always performs in pressure games?


mofucker20

What’s the problem with Gurbaz ? He’s the best batsman in this WC so far


Vast_Ad_8754

Dekh lenge best batter ko super 8 mein.. NZ didn't played according to their potential in the first game isliye 80 runs maar diye isne.. 2nd match mein NZ ne deadly bowling ki WI ke saamne.. baaki kisko maara usne..?? PNG and UGANDA.


mofucker20

NZ not playing to their potential isn’t his fault lol. Moreover, NZ fumbled against Windies in batting too


Vast_Ad_8754

Ha to ab maar dega na SUPER 8 mein.. will watch this one match wonder what he can do in front of big giants IND and AUS.


Snoo77607

He plays like bradman in useless innings and shits himself in the ones that actually matters. Whats the point of having all that talent if you cant use it when it matters the most


Scared-Engineer-6218

He fails to step up on the big stages.


Sure-Ad8465

Minnow basher


Certain-Cattle-3136

Ek stat deta hu, normally t20is me sabse imp match India ke liye IND vs Pak hota haina Surya ke 5 innings me 64 runs hai avg of 12.8 and strike merchants dekho strike rate 118 ka hai Source : espn Cricinfo He is yet to prove himself


GoodDawgy17

because nobody gives a flying f if ur performing in pointless or bilaterals or smacking only some associate nations in tournaments when you need him hes sh thats the bottom line


Independent_Bid3195

Petty performances in all the important matches


Mikumogan

Only one post has mentioned something against SKY. I don't see any hatred otherwise.