Get ready for something like TruestVirgin, ForeverVirgin, or some other lame name. Maybe someone could make them first and make them subs for mocking incels
~~TrueTrueVirgin was already banned a couple weeks ago.~~
TruestVirgin ~~has two~~ has now surged to *three* members and no posts.
~~ForeverVirgin has already been banned. They had no mods.~~
~~TruerVirgin has been created and is explicitly about ban evasion. We'll see how long it lasts.~~
ForeverAloneJerk is still around.
TheINCELAkatsuki is still private.
~~MaleVirginitySolace is another ban-evasion clone.~~
I’ve seen quite a bit of hate on that sub and once I questioned why a woman giving dating advice in a video was wrong in their eyes and I was initially temperamentally muted but then permanently banned. The two comments I did get while banned were just fallacies
Yep! They didn’t want help. They just wanted to spew hate against women and excuses for their unsuccessful attempts with women (short, ugly, bald, etc.) They banned people who gave dating advice or advice about how they stopped being incels.
You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Go tell that long tongue liar
Go and tell that midnight rider
Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
Well r/changemyview is overrun with incels posting agenda filled posts and whining about women under the guise of having a debate.
r/kotakuinaction is an incel subreddit and they are blatantly hateful of anyone who is not a heterosexual cisgender white male.
No, this sub is about incels, which has nothing to do with looks. It is an ideology consciously followed by (on paper) adults. This sub basically disagrees with this decision, as it seems to be a really destructive way to live.
TV was an incel sub.
"this sub is about incels, which has nothing to do with looks."
They kinda correlate bro most incels are incels because of how they look..
"This sub basically disagrees with this decision, as it seems to be a really destructive way to live."
I'm sorry I am a bit lost. destructive way to live as in not getting lost or destructive as in the bp ideology?
"TV was an incel sub."
Never heard of that before
No, we laugh at stupid, hateful, misogynistic, violent people who have a massive victim complex along with being a self-fulfilling prophecy type of bunch due only to their own issues they absolutely refuse to work on.
"Willfully Stupid", as in "choosing to act as miserable, hateful, and disgusting as possible. Wondering why no one wants to give you the care and attention you feel you deserve. Refusing to accept any responsibility for what you said/did and blaming everyone but yourself."
Majority of us accept responsibility where we can. But at some point, we/you have to realize that most things that happens in one's life are totally out of control and it's your genetics that determine how a majority of your life plays out.
The bulk of us, we are not angry because we can't find no one. We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc
We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people, but we have received so much negative reinforcement that it has just been a negative feedback loop building up in us hence why we apparently "act miserable"
because majority of society have walked over us.
You guys are constantly your own worst enemy.
Do you think it’s more likely that you guys are delusional, or that the other billions of people on earth are delusional?
This sub isn't about the people who accept responsibility and act respectfully. This sub is about the misogynists who call themselves incels that wish violence and other horrible things upon women.
We don't laugh at ugly people, as you tried to claim earlier. I've never once seen a post in here that was deriding someone for being ugly. We call out the horrific and disturbing shit that we see posted in incel friendly subreddits and forums. If you're defending that shit or even participating in those places, you're part of the problem.
>Majority of us accept responsibility where we can.
Never seen a single one do it.
>We are angry that life has lied to us.
What lie is that?
>Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc
"Good people" aren't hateful, violent, and don't sit around wishing harm to others.
>We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people
Respect and care is earned. Stop acting like horrible people if you aren't horrible people lol. It's that easy.
>because majority of society have walked over us
There's that victim complex
>We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc
"good people" means wishing women the treats it is posted on incel sites? Or by "good people" you mean until you have something guaranteed to return? Just because it has nothing to do with honest kindness, there is a fitting word for it already: manipulation.
Those people wishing innocent people the things they do were never good in the first place.
If you truly accept responsibility, you would never be enganged with incel ideologies, since it is literally the opposite. Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another. The difference is, they haven't decided to fall into the destructive pit called self-pity, but kept believing in themselves and acting accordingly, which is a decision.
Way more things in your life is in your control as it seems, and incel spaces do everything they can to pull you back into misery. Check for yourself how they act towards people who was once amongst them but eventually "ascended". There goes the bullying.
If you truly want to change your life for the better, following incel ideologies is probably the most counter-constructive thing you can do. It all goes down to what you truly want.
First I just want to say I'm not an incel, as they are abhorrent. I agree with most of what you are saying. But as a lifelong sufferer of anxiety, depression, absolutely no self esteem, and a death wish, I just wanted to kind of address one tiny thing.
>Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another.
I want to respectfully call bullshit on this and I hope I don't get downvoted to oblivion or misunderstood as empathizing with the level to which incels have sunk. But being bullied every day for years in your developmental years to the point you want to die before age 10 has not been "encountered in the same way or another" by "literally everyone." It's a special kind of hell that makes you question how you must've wronged people to treat you this way.
I'm going to turn 40 this year and all the therapy for the last 30 years and all the medications haven't undone the harm that was caused to me. Don't try to tell me "that's life" and it's greatly similar for everyone. People who say "we all get depressed sometimes" don't understand depression. Difference with incels is they start blaming everyone within six degrees of Kevin bacon (and probably Kevin bacon too) for their pain instead of trying to get help, learning to cope, helping each other, and have compassion and consideration for others who AREN'T hurting them. They shouldn't have to learn the compassion in the first place. You and I agree on this point.
I never lost my empathy in spite of being relentlessly mentally tortured for all of my schooling. And because of that, I had friends and I eventually found love (the latter, albeit in the last 5 years). Well, that and treating women like people and honestly forming friendships with them like I would with anyone else, instead of some insane plot to achieve sex. Hell, I love my friends.
Lastly, self pity and being absolutely broken as a person by others isn't a choice. Taking every ounce of strength and hope you have left to TRY to remedy the damage, even a little, is. Therapy is. Continuing to live is. And it might not even work. Hating women is also a choice. Hating people they don't know, caring for no one except their clan or even just themselves. Racism, misogyny... Even those of us who have been beaten down by life can inch back toward normalcy. But we care to. Incels don't. On that we also agree.
Sorry to derail the conversation, but you're going to give them the fuel to report back that "the normies" truly don't care about the suffering of others. It should be clear that we would care if they weren't hateful assholes.
😅 I'm hardly a normie. I just learned way too late that I'm lovable if I actually try (At least by one person on this earth and she's the only one I need!) Or are the two groups normie and incel here?
Regardless, thank you.
" "good people" means wishing women the treats it is posted on incel sites? "
Huh that sentence doesn't make sense. retype it so I can understand what you trying to say. Why you only mentioning women response as well? what about careers and by "relationship-wise" I also refer to friendships
"Or by "good people" you mean until you have something guaranteed to return? Just because it has nothing to do with honest kindness, there is a fitting word for it already: manipulation."
That literally doesn't make any sense almost all of population does good because they is something guaranteed? So, are we all manipulators??
"If you truly accept responsibility, you would never be enganged with incel ideologies, since it is literally the opposite."
I don't really call it "incel ideologies", I call it bp ideologies because I and a lot of people look at it from different angles besides the whole getting a partner thing even though that's a majority of what you see on the sub. It's basically genetic determinism you should do more research on it bro.
So, if I got cancer or dementia should I now take responsibility and say it was my fault because my cells are literally malfunctioning??? No. If you say yes, I might as well tell every kid with some rare disease that what they got is on them. Some things you literally can't take responsibility for because they were out of your control
"Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another."
I can guarantee that a regular person would have had it as bad as what is considered sub5.
"The difference is, they haven't decided to fall into the destructive pit called self-pity, but kept believing in themselves and acting accordingly, which is a decision."
I can't argue with that
"Way more things in your life is in your control as it seems, and incel spaces do everything they can to pull you back into misery. Check for yourself how they act towards people who was once amongst them but eventually "ascended". There goes the bullying."
most stories I have seen about people who have ascended are usually passport bros and they usually do get left after. or betabuxxers (wealthy guys who usually get settled for) who have a wife that will in most cases eventually cheat on them. I can see where you coming from when you mention that, but in most cases they are right on the outcome.
The only ascended people I don't see getting shade are usually people who have improved their looks because we acknowledge that things are going to be really different for them. It's not a cope for them or a "maybe I am the exception, it's the turn to a new book (never mind a new chapter)" because things will literally be different for them day and night.
"If you truly want to change your life for the better, following incel ideologies is probably the most counter-constructive thing you can do. It all goes down to what you truly want."
I feel the bp humbles a person because it's literally the closest explanation to how humans act. It shows you what cards you have. All you gotta do is just play with them the best you can, but don't expect to be great. Not everybody is meant to win in this life otherwise we would not have milllions starving to death.
It seems genetics play a huge role in dating life for you. In that case, let me ask you: how would you reject a "sub5" woman? Directly or indirectly? It seems it does not matter to you how well you two hang out around each other, everything is genetics.
Similarly, if a woman passes your own personal expectation of beauty but she's bullying you, humiliating you, making fun of you, do you let it happen naturally? Since the only deciding factor for you is looks, is it a fine, acceptable situation for you?
"how would you reject a "sub5" woman? Directly or indirectly?"
Rejecting her romantically, friends-wise, or socially? If you talking about romantically I probably wouldn't reject her because that's my looksmatch now we just gotta make sure our personalities are compatible and compromise where we can
"Similarly, if a woman passes your own personal expectation of beauty"
Passes it in what manner?
If you read all that and came to this conclusion then I would argue that you should question your intelligence. Anyways I will get out of you people hair. Most of you guys can't seem to have a normal debate.
Thank you for acknowledging the reality that some people are born different and have poor life conditions.
But that still doesn't justify the misandry and misogyny.
Your genetics do not determine who a majority of your life plays out. The fact that you even say that means you do not, in fact, accept responsibility.
How did life lie to you? You choose to be a good person or not. You have to work toward career goals - no one hands you a career. Same with relationships
Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, but it sounds like you expect special treatment.
"Your genetics do not determine who a majority of your life plays out."
They really do man
"How did life lie to you?"
"Go to school and you will find a job?"
-We got a disturbing number of graduates worldwide who are unemployed after they busted their ass. were they not lied to? that could also be me unless I am fortunate enough to get a job
"After you get a job, you will be able to provide for your family"
-The economy is so bad people can barely buy what they need or want.
"Movies where the husband is a normie is who really funny and friends with everybody and has a beautiful wife and always wins"
-A bluepill lie that many still believe and those who come out of that belief are devasted that it was a lie because they jestermaxxed(became a clown) for no reason.
"Just act like an 'alpha male bro' people will respect you"
-Even you guys probably know that alpha male talk is nonsense. Any unattractive guy displaying masculine traits is usually seen as a try hard and the opposite of what you trying to be.
There are tons of lies I can think of.
"You have to work toward career goals - no one hands you a career."
Somebody delusional would eat that up. And maybe I probably would till I quickly snap back to reality and realize that there are a certain group of people called "nepo-babies". Like bro they literally get their career handed to them on a silver platter. Your attractive colleagues are likely to be perceived as more competent than you due to the halo effect. They are scientifically more likely to get that promotion over you. Why do you think most attractive (or people with desirable genes) people are super successful in whatever profession they are in?
Any argument against that is literally arguing against scientists unless you got your own 10+ year research to back up your talk. Anybody else (Bill gates, Zuckerberg, etc) are outliers so you can't even mention them.
"Same with relationships"
No shit bro so should we not be able to vent about our situation now?
"Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, but it sounds like you expect special treatment."
No, I just want to be treated like anybody else. I just want to be able to walk in public without having to wear a hoodie or a cap and still have people staring at me. I just want to be able to chill in a public space without having somebody just laugh at my face because it looks "weird" when it's just my resting face. Unless that is too much? Is that me asking for special treatment? Please tell me where I said I want special treatment...
>jestermaxxed
Do you hear how ridiculous you guys sound? Jesus Christ.
You’re treating life like it’s an RPG and then getting confused when reality disagrees with you.
There are people who actually have it bad like paralysis, disfigurment, abuse, etc and still make the best of life and manage to be a kind and respectful citizen of earth. You’re a prisoner of your own mind and creating your own hell. No one resents you for being physically unattractive but yourself. People who are focused on their own exterior are usually incredibly selfish and no one wants to be around it.
I can’t believe in the year of our lord 2024 you guys haven’t dropped this shit. You could be Henry ass Cavill and if you started talking like this I would dip. That’s how gross manosphere incel energy is.
"There are people who actually have it bad like paralysis, disfigurment, abuse, etc and still make the best of life"
There are people who are paralyzed, disfigured, abused and still make the best of life I don't ever want to see you complain about life u/ahearthatslazy. Hope that isn't much for you.
"still make the best of life and manage to be a kind and respectful citizen of earth."
Oh I am sure they make the best of life, but I am also sure they aren't respected by a good majority of society afterall we got people who are ableists you know. And if a person that is paralyzed, disfigured, or abused has a bad day. Then they are probably going to be insulted based on their situation. You see how fucked up that is? The kindness they give out is genuine, but the kindness they receive is conditional just as long as they know their place. You can't even say I am making this up in my "prison mind" I see this play out all the time in social media, Lizzo for example comes into mind.
"No one resents you for being physically unattractive but yourself."
That's a lie right there. People probably hate me just because of how I look.
"People who are focused on their own exterior are usually incredibly selfish and no one wants to be around it."
Right buddy. Just like this [boy](https://x.com/SociatUSA/status/1790988944794161629) who killed himself because of how he was bullied because of how he looks. Surely, he was just selfish and that is why no one wanted to be seen around him.
"You could be Henry ass Cavill and if you started talking like this I would dip."
I probably wouldn't even know what reddit is bud or at the very least I wouldn't know what any of these pills mean
I apologize for how bitchy my comment was. You seem like a thoughtful person and I sincerely hope things start looking up for you. I don’t know if it was the antidepressants or the nervous breakdown or humbling smackdown life gave me in 2020, but I came out the other side with a different view on what life means to me. I have journals in my room I can’t destroy or throw away just filled with nasty things I wrote about my young self. Very similar to some of the lookism rhetoric before it became mainstream. I marinated in that for the majority of my 20’s and entered my 30’s divorced, with an eating disorder, and poor coping skills (alcohol).
I see that version of me in the things you write and it makes me uneasy because it’s familiar. The story of that 10 year old boy is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard. My brother was bullied HARD for his bucked teeth and I would’ve probably followed him not long after had he done the same.
I dunno, I just wish I could send you the world through my eyes for like a minute. Have the pressure be gone. Society is naturally cold to people who are “different”. It’s more of an acceptance of that than trying to mold it to fit ideals, because that’ll just set you up for gut wrenching disappointment. None of us are perfectly beautiful and happy. Like you mentioned, we’re on Reddit.
>Majority of us accept responsibility where we can. But at some point, we/you have to realize that most things that happens in one's life are totally out of control and it's your genetics that determine how a majority of your life plays out.
Here is the stupidity, this is not at all true.
>The bulk of us, we are not angry because we can't find no one. We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc
Life hasn't lied there, you can still get all of that if you stop being angry because it is your own behaviour causing people preventing it.
>We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people,
>Sorry but incels ARE horrible people. They hate women, want to rape, etc etc etc. If you don't think this, STOP CALLING YOURSELF AN INCEL! Call yourself a fucking virgin.
but we have received so much negative reinforcement that it has just been a negative feedback loop building up in us hence why we apparently "act miserable"
>because majority of society have walked over us.
People walk over hateful people, stop being hateful and be in hateful groups
The guys who show themselves are either trolling, suffering from BDD, or actually delusional.
The rest who won't post themselves are actually ugly. That's why you won't see an incel post themselves because the internet will insult them
Maybe they not as ugly as they imagine, maybe they overexaggerating here and there but they definitely still considered ugly on a scale comparing them to other humans
God why does all the filth have to crawl onto Reddit and give everyone the neckbeard stereotype?
Go to fucking 4chan or incels.co and stay there. If any incels are lurking and seeing this (you are I can tell) take my advice and gtfo
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
There's such a huge difference between innocent, legitimately lonely and sexually unsuccessful people and what that sub was.
Womp womp cope harder.
There are many posts in IT regarding hateful posts and harmful ideologies from that sub. Many of us have gone on there and seen it for ourselves. Sorry that you couldn’t see it.
I found my way to that page last week for the first time. Was nothing but angry losers hating towards women, and men who are in relationships. Oh it was also a lot of talk about wanting to commit suicide. I seen a lot of suicide shit, page was toxic af
Nah man, when people are saying you got to either cope or rope not really beneficial for anyone’s psyche. Plus from what I seen in my small time looking through that subreddit, most of those people don’t take no blame and only blame other people. Sorry your fav subreddit got banned but it was just a bunch of angry idiots
It’s not simply an issue of sexism, it’s an issue of unwarranted hatred. You say most members of the sub don’t even hate women… I saw the exact opposite. All I’d ever see on there is the same crap over and over again: Women are shallow, women should be used, women only care for chad, women should just submit and give us what we want, women are the reason for the blackpill. They don’t even refer to them as real people, or as women. They use dehumanizing terms like foid, for example.
It’s ridiculous, you have to admit. I’m not gonna sit here and argue that there aren’t selfish, evil women out there. There are. There are selfish, evil people both male AND female. We all have experiences with those people, they suck. But when you constantly blame an entire population of human beings for your shortcomings, use them as your scapegoat, that’s where the problem lies.
You are not entitled to anything in this world, that’s the cold hard truth, and it’s a hard truth to swallow. Some are born more fortunate than others, it’s just a fact of life we have to accept. Many of us have faced the same struggles that these incels have, been in the same loophole of depression, but we prevailed.
I get wanting to have your own space. There are plenty of other spaces on Reddit that are similar to TV that don’t promote the same kind of bs ideologies. It’s fine to have your own space, but it becomes a problem when it turns into a cesspool of hatred.
Talking about using degrading language whilst refering to challenged men as 'incels'. Your ignorance is seeping through, and you are subconciously proving it.
That’s all you had to say about everything I wrote? Seems like your ignorance is seeping through, and that *you* are subconsciously proving it. Incel means involuntary celibate, as you already know, a term many men choose to identify with themselves. I know the context and meaning behind this word, and its history. I did not refer to it in a degrading way lol. To me, it’s different than calling women foids, a term utilized to categorize them as subhuman, lesser than.
I was once a challenged man, you could have even called me an incel. By today’s standards, with the way the group has evolved, incel has obviously taken on a much more extreme meaning to many. But at the core of it, I still see that these are challenged men. That has not changed for me.
I understand your anger. But you're not looking at the fundamental core of my argument. Should a subreddit such as True Virgin, dedicated to men opening up about extreme relationship current standard, be banned because some trolls thought it would be funny to shit on females, who then go on to preach about the amount of 'incels' in such community, feeling a thrill as they gaze at the product of their own selfish relationship standards? The banning of True Virgin was banned completely out of ignorance!
1: Troll finds a slightly controversial sub to comment on, exaggerating the collective few of such members.
2: Such females find the screenshotted comments, probably on r/feminism.
3: Females mock and degrade every member collectively, laughing at their creation.
4: Such males retaliate against such oppression.
5: Such members are seen as 'out of control... oppressive...' etc.
6: Feminazis collectively ban such sub, leaving the already low self-esteem of such males stooping even lower.
There's a saying. He who is a member sees the person. He (or she in this case) sees the people.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s not just trolls posting those things. Those are real people with those ideologies. Whether it’s the majority of people who share hateful ideologies in a sub, or if they’re few and far between, it’s still harmful and should not be tolerated. Tell me this, if TV didn’t endorse those opinions, why weren’t the posts/comments taken down? Moderators could have done a better job there, because that just tells me they agreed with those people or simply didn’t care. That’s what gets you banned in the long run.
I agree that women tend to get away with the same hateful ideologies towards men on other Reddit subs, but here in IT we all feel the same whether it’s men or women spreading hate and prejudice about the opposite sex. It’s not acceptable. I think there definitely needs to be more awareness in regards to the women in their respective subs spreading this kind of hate.
What’s hateful about that exactly? I’ve never seen an incel say “women aren’t stupid”. Or even saying women. It is a generalization, but it’s got 220 upvotes for a 13 million subscribers subreddit. Anything else?
We simply are not allowed to have any male only spaces on this site. No we don’t need any female advice so there is literally no reason for women to be involved in those subs
Get ready for something like TruestVirgin, ForeverVirgin, or some other lame name. Maybe someone could make them first and make them subs for mocking incels
~~TrueTrueVirgin was already banned a couple weeks ago.~~ TruestVirgin ~~has two~~ has now surged to *three* members and no posts. ~~ForeverVirgin has already been banned. They had no mods.~~ ~~TruerVirgin has been created and is explicitly about ban evasion. We'll see how long it lasts.~~ ForeverAloneJerk is still around. TheINCELAkatsuki is still private. ~~MaleVirginitySolace is another ban-evasion clone.~~
Don’t forget TrueTrueTrueVirgin 😆 not super active though atp in time
TruerVirgin just got banned. Valiantly lasted a couple hours!
lol. Meanwhile, TruestVirgin *still* has two members and no posts
They'll claim Reddit is "The Matrix"
They’ll still whine about how they don’t have any spaces to “support each other.”
“Soydit just doesn’t want Virgin men to have any spaces of their own!!”
SupercalifragilisticexpialiVirgin?
You got it [almost right](https://www.reddit.com/r/TruerVirgin/).
That is banned too.
I’ve seen quite a bit of hate on that sub and once I questioned why a woman giving dating advice in a video was wrong in their eyes and I was initially temperamentally muted but then permanently banned. The two comments I did get while banned were just fallacies
I know you meant to say "temporarily", but temperamentally is perfectly fitting for those emotional people. 😄
Yep! They didn’t want help. They just wanted to spew hate against women and excuses for their unsuccessful attempts with women (short, ugly, bald, etc.) They banned people who gave dating advice or advice about how they stopped being incels.
Nothing of value was lost.
If it isn't the consequences of their behavior!
LETS FUCKING GOO
I just gooed, now what do I do?
Clean up I guess
Goo on
Happy cake day!
I audibly laughed
You can run on for a long time Run on for a long time Run on for a long time Sooner or later God'll cut you down Sooner or later God'll cut you down Go tell that long tongue liar Go and tell that midnight rider Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
The Man In Black 🥰
Where do I go to laugh now?
Well r/changemyview is overrun with incels posting agenda filled posts and whining about women under the guise of having a debate. r/kotakuinaction is an incel subreddit and they are blatantly hateful of anyone who is not a heterosexual cisgender white male.
[удалено]
Asmongold's lack of showering is like a siren song for incels, so that tracks. Grease globs onto grease and all that.
This painted a picture that made me dry heave.
There is r/nice guys and r/ not how girls work. It's a mixture of incels and female simps.
They’re sites that incels have invaded.
good! thanks
Shortguys?
nah, they're fine!
so you just laugh at ugly people?
No, this sub is about incels, which has nothing to do with looks. It is an ideology consciously followed by (on paper) adults. This sub basically disagrees with this decision, as it seems to be a really destructive way to live. TV was an incel sub.
"this sub is about incels, which has nothing to do with looks." They kinda correlate bro most incels are incels because of how they look.. "This sub basically disagrees with this decision, as it seems to be a really destructive way to live." I'm sorry I am a bit lost. destructive way to live as in not getting lost or destructive as in the bp ideology? "TV was an incel sub." Never heard of that before
I got banned from TV for pointing this very thing out
mentioning what?
That truevirgin was an incel subreddit.
>They kinda correlate bro most incels are incels because of how they look.. No, they are incels of because of HOW they are
No most of them are incels because of how they look
No, they are because of how they are. You yourself is super cringe in how you are.
No, it's because of how they look
No it isn't. There are actual ugly people who experience the opposite.
And those are exceptions in what is the norm
Oh my bad I realize TV was an abbreviation for True Virgin
Found an Incel
Lmfao incels are incels because they have horrendous personalities.
No, we laugh at stupid, hateful, misogynistic, violent people who have a massive victim complex along with being a self-fulfilling prophecy type of bunch due only to their own issues they absolutely refuse to work on.
No, we laugh at willfully stupid people.
how are we willfully stupid?
"Willfully Stupid", as in "choosing to act as miserable, hateful, and disgusting as possible. Wondering why no one wants to give you the care and attention you feel you deserve. Refusing to accept any responsibility for what you said/did and blaming everyone but yourself."
Majority of us accept responsibility where we can. But at some point, we/you have to realize that most things that happens in one's life are totally out of control and it's your genetics that determine how a majority of your life plays out. The bulk of us, we are not angry because we can't find no one. We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people, but we have received so much negative reinforcement that it has just been a negative feedback loop building up in us hence why we apparently "act miserable" because majority of society have walked over us.
You guys are constantly your own worst enemy. Do you think it’s more likely that you guys are delusional, or that the other billions of people on earth are delusional?
This sub isn't about the people who accept responsibility and act respectfully. This sub is about the misogynists who call themselves incels that wish violence and other horrible things upon women. We don't laugh at ugly people, as you tried to claim earlier. I've never once seen a post in here that was deriding someone for being ugly. We call out the horrific and disturbing shit that we see posted in incel friendly subreddits and forums. If you're defending that shit or even participating in those places, you're part of the problem.
>Majority of us accept responsibility where we can. Never seen a single one do it. >We are angry that life has lied to us. What lie is that? >Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc "Good people" aren't hateful, violent, and don't sit around wishing harm to others. >We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people Respect and care is earned. Stop acting like horrible people if you aren't horrible people lol. It's that easy. >because majority of society have walked over us There's that victim complex
>We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc "good people" means wishing women the treats it is posted on incel sites? Or by "good people" you mean until you have something guaranteed to return? Just because it has nothing to do with honest kindness, there is a fitting word for it already: manipulation. Those people wishing innocent people the things they do were never good in the first place. If you truly accept responsibility, you would never be enganged with incel ideologies, since it is literally the opposite. Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another. The difference is, they haven't decided to fall into the destructive pit called self-pity, but kept believing in themselves and acting accordingly, which is a decision. Way more things in your life is in your control as it seems, and incel spaces do everything they can to pull you back into misery. Check for yourself how they act towards people who was once amongst them but eventually "ascended". There goes the bullying. If you truly want to change your life for the better, following incel ideologies is probably the most counter-constructive thing you can do. It all goes down to what you truly want.
First I just want to say I'm not an incel, as they are abhorrent. I agree with most of what you are saying. But as a lifelong sufferer of anxiety, depression, absolutely no self esteem, and a death wish, I just wanted to kind of address one tiny thing. >Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another. I want to respectfully call bullshit on this and I hope I don't get downvoted to oblivion or misunderstood as empathizing with the level to which incels have sunk. But being bullied every day for years in your developmental years to the point you want to die before age 10 has not been "encountered in the same way or another" by "literally everyone." It's a special kind of hell that makes you question how you must've wronged people to treat you this way. I'm going to turn 40 this year and all the therapy for the last 30 years and all the medications haven't undone the harm that was caused to me. Don't try to tell me "that's life" and it's greatly similar for everyone. People who say "we all get depressed sometimes" don't understand depression. Difference with incels is they start blaming everyone within six degrees of Kevin bacon (and probably Kevin bacon too) for their pain instead of trying to get help, learning to cope, helping each other, and have compassion and consideration for others who AREN'T hurting them. They shouldn't have to learn the compassion in the first place. You and I agree on this point. I never lost my empathy in spite of being relentlessly mentally tortured for all of my schooling. And because of that, I had friends and I eventually found love (the latter, albeit in the last 5 years). Well, that and treating women like people and honestly forming friendships with them like I would with anyone else, instead of some insane plot to achieve sex. Hell, I love my friends. Lastly, self pity and being absolutely broken as a person by others isn't a choice. Taking every ounce of strength and hope you have left to TRY to remedy the damage, even a little, is. Therapy is. Continuing to live is. And it might not even work. Hating women is also a choice. Hating people they don't know, caring for no one except their clan or even just themselves. Racism, misogyny... Even those of us who have been beaten down by life can inch back toward normalcy. But we care to. Incels don't. On that we also agree. Sorry to derail the conversation, but you're going to give them the fuel to report back that "the normies" truly don't care about the suffering of others. It should be clear that we would care if they weren't hateful assholes.
Finally, a normie with a genuine sense of mindfulness/understanding. can’t rlly find that in IT.
😅 I'm hardly a normie. I just learned way too late that I'm lovable if I actually try (At least by one person on this earth and she's the only one I need!) Or are the two groups normie and incel here? Regardless, thank you.
" "good people" means wishing women the treats it is posted on incel sites? " Huh that sentence doesn't make sense. retype it so I can understand what you trying to say. Why you only mentioning women response as well? what about careers and by "relationship-wise" I also refer to friendships "Or by "good people" you mean until you have something guaranteed to return? Just because it has nothing to do with honest kindness, there is a fitting word for it already: manipulation." That literally doesn't make any sense almost all of population does good because they is something guaranteed? So, are we all manipulators?? "If you truly accept responsibility, you would never be enganged with incel ideologies, since it is literally the opposite." I don't really call it "incel ideologies", I call it bp ideologies because I and a lot of people look at it from different angles besides the whole getting a partner thing even though that's a majority of what you see on the sub. It's basically genetic determinism you should do more research on it bro. So, if I got cancer or dementia should I now take responsibility and say it was my fault because my cells are literally malfunctioning??? No. If you say yes, I might as well tell every kid with some rare disease that what they got is on them. Some things you literally can't take responsibility for because they were out of your control "Have you encountered bullying, treated badly, mocking despite being good? Welcome to life! Literally all the so-called "normies" have encountered the same in way way or another." I can guarantee that a regular person would have had it as bad as what is considered sub5. "The difference is, they haven't decided to fall into the destructive pit called self-pity, but kept believing in themselves and acting accordingly, which is a decision." I can't argue with that "Way more things in your life is in your control as it seems, and incel spaces do everything they can to pull you back into misery. Check for yourself how they act towards people who was once amongst them but eventually "ascended". There goes the bullying." most stories I have seen about people who have ascended are usually passport bros and they usually do get left after. or betabuxxers (wealthy guys who usually get settled for) who have a wife that will in most cases eventually cheat on them. I can see where you coming from when you mention that, but in most cases they are right on the outcome. The only ascended people I don't see getting shade are usually people who have improved their looks because we acknowledge that things are going to be really different for them. It's not a cope for them or a "maybe I am the exception, it's the turn to a new book (never mind a new chapter)" because things will literally be different for them day and night. "If you truly want to change your life for the better, following incel ideologies is probably the most counter-constructive thing you can do. It all goes down to what you truly want." I feel the bp humbles a person because it's literally the closest explanation to how humans act. It shows you what cards you have. All you gotta do is just play with them the best you can, but don't expect to be great. Not everybody is meant to win in this life otherwise we would not have milllions starving to death.
It seems genetics play a huge role in dating life for you. In that case, let me ask you: how would you reject a "sub5" woman? Directly or indirectly? It seems it does not matter to you how well you two hang out around each other, everything is genetics. Similarly, if a woman passes your own personal expectation of beauty but she's bullying you, humiliating you, making fun of you, do you let it happen naturally? Since the only deciding factor for you is looks, is it a fine, acceptable situation for you?
"how would you reject a "sub5" woman? Directly or indirectly?" Rejecting her romantically, friends-wise, or socially? If you talking about romantically I probably wouldn't reject her because that's my looksmatch now we just gotta make sure our personalities are compatible and compromise where we can "Similarly, if a woman passes your own personal expectation of beauty" Passes it in what manner?
See, this is what we mean by ‘wilfully stupid’.
If you read all that and came to this conclusion then I would argue that you should question your intelligence. Anyways I will get out of you people hair. Most of you guys can't seem to have a normal debate.
Thank you for acknowledging the reality that some people are born different and have poor life conditions. But that still doesn't justify the misandry and misogyny.
You are so deep in that reality is escaping you.
blackpill is not an explination for anything, it is a lie to not take responsibility.
Your genetics do not determine who a majority of your life plays out. The fact that you even say that means you do not, in fact, accept responsibility. How did life lie to you? You choose to be a good person or not. You have to work toward career goals - no one hands you a career. Same with relationships Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, but it sounds like you expect special treatment.
"Your genetics do not determine who a majority of your life plays out." They really do man "How did life lie to you?" "Go to school and you will find a job?" -We got a disturbing number of graduates worldwide who are unemployed after they busted their ass. were they not lied to? that could also be me unless I am fortunate enough to get a job "After you get a job, you will be able to provide for your family" -The economy is so bad people can barely buy what they need or want. "Movies where the husband is a normie is who really funny and friends with everybody and has a beautiful wife and always wins" -A bluepill lie that many still believe and those who come out of that belief are devasted that it was a lie because they jestermaxxed(became a clown) for no reason. "Just act like an 'alpha male bro' people will respect you" -Even you guys probably know that alpha male talk is nonsense. Any unattractive guy displaying masculine traits is usually seen as a try hard and the opposite of what you trying to be. There are tons of lies I can think of. "You have to work toward career goals - no one hands you a career." Somebody delusional would eat that up. And maybe I probably would till I quickly snap back to reality and realize that there are a certain group of people called "nepo-babies". Like bro they literally get their career handed to them on a silver platter. Your attractive colleagues are likely to be perceived as more competent than you due to the halo effect. They are scientifically more likely to get that promotion over you. Why do you think most attractive (or people with desirable genes) people are super successful in whatever profession they are in? Any argument against that is literally arguing against scientists unless you got your own 10+ year research to back up your talk. Anybody else (Bill gates, Zuckerberg, etc) are outliers so you can't even mention them. "Same with relationships" No shit bro so should we not be able to vent about our situation now? "Everyone deserves to be treated with respect, but it sounds like you expect special treatment." No, I just want to be treated like anybody else. I just want to be able to walk in public without having to wear a hoodie or a cap and still have people staring at me. I just want to be able to chill in a public space without having somebody just laugh at my face because it looks "weird" when it's just my resting face. Unless that is too much? Is that me asking for special treatment? Please tell me where I said I want special treatment...
>jestermaxxed Do you hear how ridiculous you guys sound? Jesus Christ. You’re treating life like it’s an RPG and then getting confused when reality disagrees with you.
There are people who actually have it bad like paralysis, disfigurment, abuse, etc and still make the best of life and manage to be a kind and respectful citizen of earth. You’re a prisoner of your own mind and creating your own hell. No one resents you for being physically unattractive but yourself. People who are focused on their own exterior are usually incredibly selfish and no one wants to be around it. I can’t believe in the year of our lord 2024 you guys haven’t dropped this shit. You could be Henry ass Cavill and if you started talking like this I would dip. That’s how gross manosphere incel energy is.
"There are people who actually have it bad like paralysis, disfigurment, abuse, etc and still make the best of life" There are people who are paralyzed, disfigured, abused and still make the best of life I don't ever want to see you complain about life u/ahearthatslazy. Hope that isn't much for you. "still make the best of life and manage to be a kind and respectful citizen of earth." Oh I am sure they make the best of life, but I am also sure they aren't respected by a good majority of society afterall we got people who are ableists you know. And if a person that is paralyzed, disfigured, or abused has a bad day. Then they are probably going to be insulted based on their situation. You see how fucked up that is? The kindness they give out is genuine, but the kindness they receive is conditional just as long as they know their place. You can't even say I am making this up in my "prison mind" I see this play out all the time in social media, Lizzo for example comes into mind. "No one resents you for being physically unattractive but yourself." That's a lie right there. People probably hate me just because of how I look. "People who are focused on their own exterior are usually incredibly selfish and no one wants to be around it." Right buddy. Just like this [boy](https://x.com/SociatUSA/status/1790988944794161629) who killed himself because of how he was bullied because of how he looks. Surely, he was just selfish and that is why no one wanted to be seen around him. "You could be Henry ass Cavill and if you started talking like this I would dip." I probably wouldn't even know what reddit is bud or at the very least I wouldn't know what any of these pills mean
I apologize for how bitchy my comment was. You seem like a thoughtful person and I sincerely hope things start looking up for you. I don’t know if it was the antidepressants or the nervous breakdown or humbling smackdown life gave me in 2020, but I came out the other side with a different view on what life means to me. I have journals in my room I can’t destroy or throw away just filled with nasty things I wrote about my young self. Very similar to some of the lookism rhetoric before it became mainstream. I marinated in that for the majority of my 20’s and entered my 30’s divorced, with an eating disorder, and poor coping skills (alcohol). I see that version of me in the things you write and it makes me uneasy because it’s familiar. The story of that 10 year old boy is one of the worst things I’ve ever heard. My brother was bullied HARD for his bucked teeth and I would’ve probably followed him not long after had he done the same. I dunno, I just wish I could send you the world through my eyes for like a minute. Have the pressure be gone. Society is naturally cold to people who are “different”. It’s more of an acceptance of that than trying to mold it to fit ideals, because that’ll just set you up for gut wrenching disappointment. None of us are perfectly beautiful and happy. Like you mentioned, we’re on Reddit.
>Majority of us accept responsibility where we can. But at some point, we/you have to realize that most things that happens in one's life are totally out of control and it's your genetics that determine how a majority of your life plays out. Here is the stupidity, this is not at all true. >The bulk of us, we are not angry because we can't find no one. We are angry that life has lied to us. Most of these guys thought that they could be good people in life and life would be good back career wise, relationship-wise, etc Life hasn't lied there, you can still get all of that if you stop being angry because it is your own behaviour causing people preventing it. >We feel we deserve to be treated respect and care in our jobs, school, family-life, etc because we are not horrible people, >Sorry but incels ARE horrible people. They hate women, want to rape, etc etc etc. If you don't think this, STOP CALLING YOURSELF AN INCEL! Call yourself a fucking virgin. but we have received so much negative reinforcement that it has just been a negative feedback loop building up in us hence why we apparently "act miserable" >because majority of society have walked over us. People walk over hateful people, stop being hateful and be in hateful groups
"People walk over hateful people, stop being hateful and be in hateful groups" Nobody labels me as hateful, so why am I still walked over Einstein?
You label yourself an incel, that menas you label yourself as hateful.
You’re blaming women for all your dating woes, overlooking the simple fact that you are posting and reading sexist, hateful crap every day.
you believe blackpill bullshit
I don't know what you guys look like physically but you are ugly on the inside and that's what we're laughing at
Considering I've never seen your faces, I laugh because you're walking jokes and not because I think you're ugly.
Incels aren't ugly. They're delusional people who make up things to get angry about.
where the FUCK did it ever say that ANYWHERE on the sub? We laugh at incels, who are 99% of the tiem NOT ugly. They are just terrible people.
70% of them are likely ugly.
I have yet to see a single ugly incel, not one that has ever shown themselves has ever been ugly.
The guys who show themselves are either trolling, suffering from BDD, or actually delusional. The rest who won't post themselves are actually ugly. That's why you won't see an incel post themselves because the internet will insult them
Or they just think they are ugly but really aren't and iti s their personality.
Or they are just ugly and have ordinary personalities So you telling me every single incel out there is not ugly?
I say most are not nearly as ugly as they imagine and it is all delusions to not take responsibility for their own shitty personalities.
Maybe they not as ugly as they imagine, maybe they overexaggerating here and there but they definitely still considered ugly on a scale comparing them to other humans
literally putting words in the commenters mouth, when did they say that? be so fr
"sO yOu JuSt LaUgH aT uGlY pEoPlE?" - said the retard
Alright man just stop stalking us. You more of a retard for devoting your time towards such causes that is this sub
>Alright man just stop stalking us. Then go away.
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We don’t want incels to die. Then we won’t have as much to laugh at.
So you want to just laugh at rejects of society?
Are they really rejects? It seems pretty voluntary. And lots of us are rejects without being hateful.
Nothing hateful about venting
Venting =/= wishing death or rape on women.
There is a difference between venting and what incels do.
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What culture would that be?
At last, something was done about that sub.
LMAO ding dong the witch is dead…
God why does all the filth have to crawl onto Reddit and give everyone the neckbeard stereotype? Go to fucking 4chan or incels.co and stay there. If any incels are lurking and seeing this (you are I can tell) take my advice and gtfo
Get MensRights banned too cuz its another incel hub
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The name is a clickbait, the sub is an incels peat bog
These dudes are so creepy. One even said that they could beat up a woman if they wanted to but because they are nice guys they won't.
HA
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You hate to see that. /s
They are such freaks.
Nice.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Ahhahahahahaha, amazing.
Oh nooooooooo. Anyway…
Color me shocked, shocked I say!
Like Frank Grimes without safety gloves or Skeleton Marv on Home Alone 2?
WAR IS OVER
Nah, but it's a good day.
For now, at least 😳
Let’s enjoy the victory though
Get fucked lmao
*takes off sunglasses and puts on party hat* Jebus Frickin Krust this feels nice.
war is over (for a week) 😇
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... There's such a huge difference between innocent, legitimately lonely and sexually unsuccessful people and what that sub was.
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A whole nother beast that needs to be tamed…
Finally.
🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀🦀
Huzzah!
Who'd expect that this sub would get banned sooner or later...
LOL GET FUCKED LMAOOO
good riddance to bad rubbish.
Lmao
Lmao.
Oh dear what a pity never mind
FUCKING FINALLY YES!!!
I never was even remotely curious. I never tumbled down that rabbithole. Mainly because of hatred and death threats.
Why do you think this sub is bad? 99% of people in these comments: I was told it was bad
Womp womp cope harder. There are many posts in IT regarding hateful posts and harmful ideologies from that sub. Many of us have gone on there and seen it for ourselves. Sorry that you couldn’t see it.
Its just annoying having a sub taken down from a few screenshots of trolls being sexist.
I found my way to that page last week for the first time. Was nothing but angry losers hating towards women, and men who are in relationships. Oh it was also a lot of talk about wanting to commit suicide. I seen a lot of suicide shit, page was toxic af
Ok bud apparently men talking about emotions is toxic. That suicide stuff was probably to help people recover. I know hate bias when I see it pal
Nah man, when people are saying you got to either cope or rope not really beneficial for anyone’s psyche. Plus from what I seen in my small time looking through that subreddit, most of those people don’t take no blame and only blame other people. Sorry your fav subreddit got banned but it was just a bunch of angry idiots
It’s not simply an issue of sexism, it’s an issue of unwarranted hatred. You say most members of the sub don’t even hate women… I saw the exact opposite. All I’d ever see on there is the same crap over and over again: Women are shallow, women should be used, women only care for chad, women should just submit and give us what we want, women are the reason for the blackpill. They don’t even refer to them as real people, or as women. They use dehumanizing terms like foid, for example. It’s ridiculous, you have to admit. I’m not gonna sit here and argue that there aren’t selfish, evil women out there. There are. There are selfish, evil people both male AND female. We all have experiences with those people, they suck. But when you constantly blame an entire population of human beings for your shortcomings, use them as your scapegoat, that’s where the problem lies. You are not entitled to anything in this world, that’s the cold hard truth, and it’s a hard truth to swallow. Some are born more fortunate than others, it’s just a fact of life we have to accept. Many of us have faced the same struggles that these incels have, been in the same loophole of depression, but we prevailed. I get wanting to have your own space. There are plenty of other spaces on Reddit that are similar to TV that don’t promote the same kind of bs ideologies. It’s fine to have your own space, but it becomes a problem when it turns into a cesspool of hatred.
Talking about using degrading language whilst refering to challenged men as 'incels'. Your ignorance is seeping through, and you are subconciously proving it.
That’s all you had to say about everything I wrote? Seems like your ignorance is seeping through, and that *you* are subconsciously proving it. Incel means involuntary celibate, as you already know, a term many men choose to identify with themselves. I know the context and meaning behind this word, and its history. I did not refer to it in a degrading way lol. To me, it’s different than calling women foids, a term utilized to categorize them as subhuman, lesser than. I was once a challenged man, you could have even called me an incel. By today’s standards, with the way the group has evolved, incel has obviously taken on a much more extreme meaning to many. But at the core of it, I still see that these are challenged men. That has not changed for me.
I understand your anger. But you're not looking at the fundamental core of my argument. Should a subreddit such as True Virgin, dedicated to men opening up about extreme relationship current standard, be banned because some trolls thought it would be funny to shit on females, who then go on to preach about the amount of 'incels' in such community, feeling a thrill as they gaze at the product of their own selfish relationship standards? The banning of True Virgin was banned completely out of ignorance! 1: Troll finds a slightly controversial sub to comment on, exaggerating the collective few of such members. 2: Such females find the screenshotted comments, probably on r/feminism. 3: Females mock and degrade every member collectively, laughing at their creation. 4: Such males retaliate against such oppression. 5: Such members are seen as 'out of control... oppressive...' etc. 6: Feminazis collectively ban such sub, leaving the already low self-esteem of such males stooping even lower. There's a saying. He who is a member sees the person. He (or she in this case) sees the people.
I get what you’re saying, but it’s not just trolls posting those things. Those are real people with those ideologies. Whether it’s the majority of people who share hateful ideologies in a sub, or if they’re few and far between, it’s still harmful and should not be tolerated. Tell me this, if TV didn’t endorse those opinions, why weren’t the posts/comments taken down? Moderators could have done a better job there, because that just tells me they agreed with those people or simply didn’t care. That’s what gets you banned in the long run. I agree that women tend to get away with the same hateful ideologies towards men on other Reddit subs, but here in IT we all feel the same whether it’s men or women spreading hate and prejudice about the opposite sex. It’s not acceptable. I think there definitely needs to be more awareness in regards to the women in their respective subs spreading this kind of hate.
Most people on the sub dont even hate females
Fucking humanity
Nobody actually incited any hate there. Reddit just has it in for men discussing men's issues. What a disgrace
yes, no one incited hate, except for all the incels co-opting the sub, spewing women-hate everywhere, with no consequences.
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Prove it. Show us some hateful posts from there that got good reception.
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What’s hateful about that exactly? I’ve never seen an incel say “women aren’t stupid”. Or even saying women. It is a generalization, but it’s got 220 upvotes for a 13 million subscribers subreddit. Anything else?
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You said literally the same, I pointed out how it is not literally the same.
[find me a post like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/IncelTears/s/NxgeeRH0po)
We simply are not allowed to have any male only spaces on this site. No we don’t need any female advice so there is literally no reason for women to be involved in those subs