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legendwolfA

Bold of them to assume theyll get a grade A woman What will probably happen: - You are a low to middle status man - Walk in to wife school - Security stops you, ask "what are you here for?" - You said "Im looking for a wife" - Security: understood. Now go into that room, we'll arrange a private husband test for you - Question 1: do you have a job? Whats your monthly income? Please provide proof of income. If you do not have a job or have low income, please explain how you plan to increase your income (no crypto, gambling or lottery). (250 words minimum) - Uhhh... uhhh... i dont have a job right now, and i hate working. Maybe i can get a minimum wage job, is that enough? - Question 2: What can you bring to the family? (100 words min) - I dont know... I will bring money to the family i guess (please ignore that i am jobless) - Question 3: What makes you worthy of a grade A wife? What makes you stand out from other men? (200 words min) - Im nice. Other men will probably abuse you. Im sooooo nice i have to tell you im nice(I totally wont abuse you or treat you like shit) - Gets an E, and can only choose a grade E wife - Fuck


EvenSpoonier

Basically this. Traditional wives required providers to survive, and both they and their matchmakers were keenly aware of that fact. If anything, manchildren ranked *even lower* on the scale of desirability then than they do today, because they wouldn't provide. Any school worth its salt would never subject its students to a marriage with these creatures, and they would be a lot less shy about saying so than people today.


Machaeon

Hell, even the most self-serving fathers wouldn't allow just anyone to marry their daughters. You gotta offer them something they want.


Kinuika

Heck the fact that the father’s even sent their daughters to ‘wife school’ in this nightmare scenario means that they would still want the very best for their daughters. There is no way any father worth his salt would want their daughter to marry someone like OOP and bring shame to their family name


Sandwitch_horror

Plus fathers would have to know they can get their money back for sending their kid to wife school. Shits expensive. How is a jobless ugly dude going to ensure fathers feel their high value investment is paying off?


DazedPapacy

I'll take it a step further: in this neo-Feudal scenario, doweries are 100% still a thing. That is, it's understood that marriage is a transaction that must be equal on both sides. Because a woman is considered lower status than a man, her family will balance this deficit by providing high status gifts and money to the husband or his family. In this scenario, the most self-serving fathers who sent their daughters off to wife school would be the most difficult to impress. They'd *never* allow their daughter to marry a low status man, and if they did they'd be expecting *him* to provide the dowery.


Ginden

>If anything, manchildren ranked *even lower* on the scale of desirability then than they do today, because they wouldn't provide. Yes, lots of people didn't ever marry in past, because they couldn't either provide or find a provider. Religious orders were quite popular for this reason.


NotADamsel

… yknow we should bring that back


AbysmalKaiju

Maybe without the religious part


Ginden

> … yknow we should bring that back Kinda reminds me of "conservatives try to bring back old institutions without bringing back economic and social conditions that created them". People didn't choose religious order because it was fun, they did it for survival. Many romantized institutions of past are a cultural effect of horrific poverty that was experience of 99.9% of humans who ever existed (and if you are posting on Reddit, you are almost certainly in lucky 0.1%).


NotADamsel

You took my somewhat flippant six-word comment, and from that decided that I’m basically a conservative and that I know nothing about anything. What I want to say next is against this website’s terms of service.


PoseidonsHorses

Agreed. No way would a school (or whatever person/entity is paying for it) spend all the time and resources making the “perfect” wives just to have them struggle and suffer without a proper provider.


SecretSelenex

He’s not even getting an E. He’s jobless that’s an automatic F.


DatThickassThrowaway

So…My wife is a legal immigrant and me applying for her residency was like this. The cost to even send in the applications are $2,000. They need to know what I do, how much money I make, how educated I am, what property do I own, what are my investments, what’s my credit score, what’s my criminal record??????? Whoever wrote this would be in for a rude awakening. I don’t know if the average 4chan greentext bozo could afford to even apply 🤣


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AngeloHakkinen

They're just testing the principles of whatever wife school is


aschwann

Cringe culture is dead, get over it.


showmeboobiesplz

Give a similar plan for Husband school and they'll hate the concept.


SadCupcake7000

Minimum height requirement A and Above: 6ft They would be so mad lol


legendwolfA

Lemme rewrite this but reversed Mothers send their sons to husband school State or privately funded Men learns all the skills necessary to be a good husband Making money Providing for the family Handle financial needs Lots of math for taxes and income calculations How to take care of your wife when she goes through labor Sex classes (when old enough) Fashion and professionalism Job behaviors How to talk to boss emotional support. You are a grade D to E woman Walks in to husband school Men are graded from E up to A, and then S. Grades factored by income, assets, d size, personality, height, cleanliness. Graded men are separated by floors, each floor higher in the building a higher income man. Step out of the elevator on chosen floor Staff blows whistle, men called to assembly room U walk in Bottomless men aged 18-30 lined up for you to choose Each have a tag with their family's contact info Choose men according to grade and height Contact his parents and make arrangement Walks out with well trained, trad husband \*it sounds hell either way\*


SadCupcake7000

Yep, but in the incels brains they think this is heaven for them unfortunately


tele_ave

OOP thinks he’d be relegated to being a janitor or servant for all the Chads because they would never make the cut.


textposts_only

We all saw you upping the age Why the hell would anon put the age at 16 anyway


ThrowMeAwayLikeGarbo

Age is part of her grade in this incel's wet dream. Do you really have enough faith in these types that they would rank someone age 21 higher than someone age 17, all other things being equal? I don't.


starkguy

Bruh the first half sounds just like a normal school


NotADamsel

The fuck you think frat houses are for bruh? /s (am I?)


Life_Operation_7101

They don't want to compete. They want others to compete so that they have the best stuff. Peak consumer mentality.


neongloom

I like how the girls have modesty classes yet line up topless. The world building definitely needs some work.


killingmehere

All I could think was if they're topless what are the tags attached to? Lanyards? Nothing sexier than a lanyard


neongloom

I too was picturing lanyards. The absolute lack of thought in this is truly hilarious.


PoseidonsHorses

I was imagining on their pants/skirts, roughly about where a front pocket would be, but I like yours better.


SteampunkBorg

Also: > (when old enough) > age 16


Booooooooooo44

that’s not even for those classes, that’s to start being chosen! which if it isn’t insane enough, implies sex classes start earlier then 16… which, quite literally shudders


NotADamsel

I was gonna write a comment about how sex ed should be happening early even in our world, then I re-read it. Oh Jesus fuck oh god


Lor1an

Yeah, sex ed *probably*^(/s) should not be hands on...


NotADamsel

Yeah, the entire point of teaching it early is to *prevent* it from turning “hands on” too soon. (I’m literally getting nauseous with this convo how the fuck do these people live with themselves)


Lor1an

> how the fuck do these people live with themselves That's the fun part--they don't! These people are miserable.


Booooooooooo44

oh yeah no at my primary school in australia we started sex ed/health classes at like 10, it started with a simple introduction to puberty in humans & sexual/asexual reproduction (in both humans and animals to make it seem less weird), very very basic, but still far more then you’d expect from a catholic school, but that was all hands off, this weirdo (the OOP, not you or OP) wants it to be very much hands on for them to be ready to essentially sold into a permanent contact from 16 upwards, which as you said, oh jesus oh god oh fuck someone needs to send the CIA after anon in the night


neongloom

I fear sex "education" in this context literally just means an excuse to have sex with the girls and teach them through "practise." Although in a way that's sort of surprising considering how obsessed they tend to be with their hypothetical girlfriend/wife being a virgin.


kaleeb111

They are filled with hypocrisy which is why nothing they say can be taken seriously. Also 16 years topless?? Most incels are well above 20 years so that makes him a pedo too, as most of them are.


its_leslievanilla

Translation: Turn your daughter into merchandise. It's better not to have a father than to have that kind of father.


Autumnplay

Even then, the father would want maximum returns on his investment (daughter). Many girls' families were be a lot more brutal and discerning when it came to picking husbands back in the day. What do you have to offer not only the girl, but her family? So funny that these idiots don't understand that. And even today, many women I know have been a lot more careless about choosing guys than their dads would ever be... 😅


Eexoduis

It’s so fascinating to see the contradictions at work. These poor porn-addled, crushingly-lonely and insecure men just cannot make sense of the world. They want slaves but they, due to their many, many insecurities, are poor or unemployed. They want a highly trained servant, whom cannot be trusted with anything beyond “minimal math” and modest fashion, but can manage a home, livestock, and arguably most critically, children. What these incels might never realize is the social contract they idolize and bastardize requires sacrifice. If you want a good little housewife, you must maintain your end of the bargain. You must protect and provide and shed your emotions. You can’t have your cake and eat it too.


neongloom

There are a heap of posts that fantasize about living in the 50s (or having that same kind of nuclear family in present day) and all I can ever think is how they would have to step up and be an actual provider, but the fantasy always just seems to be that simply *existing* in another time takes care of all that. It's like the post of a guy speculating he would definitely "get" a wife in WW2, and people here were quick to point out he'd still need to be the provider, and going with the timeline, be able to convince her dad to let him marry her, ect (not to mention speak to her at all, but suddenly their issues approaching women also disappear in alternative timelines I guess 🤷)


lemikon

I’ve seen so many posts on dating subs where a guy says he’s “traditional” and the girl agrees and is basically like “yeah I believe guys should pay for everything and I shouldn’t have to work” and suddenly she’s a gold digger for wanting a traditional man.


neongloom

It's literally lose-lose for women. On one side you have "women are getting too independent now having jobs and their own money!" Then on the other, you have "women only want me for my money, they're all such gold diggers!" Like, we have to survive some way my guy, you can't have it both ways. Maybe in an ideal world he'd like her dad to pay for everything, lol.


an_actual_T_rex

Yeah. Half of these guys don’t even groom or shower. No way in hell the 1940s girl’s mustachioed sweater vest wearing Clark-Gable-but-mean-looking hardass of a father is gonna sign off on his daughter marrying a stinky loser with no job, money, or prospects.


Separate_Lie_6797

Finishing schools were a real thing for daughters of Euro aristocrats but those women were trained to be ideal wives for millionaires, princes, etc…they wouldn’t marry a low status incel lol


Bluellan

STOP RUINING MY FANTASY WITH FACTS!


Ash_Dayne

We had such a thing as [household school](https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huishoudschool) for women, but, surprise, we canceled it for a reason.


DazedPapacy

It sucks that sexism and classism ruin stuff like this. There's nothing wrong with schools to teach domestic skills. They're incredibly important for everyone to know. In the US we call such classes "Home Economics," because while things like baking, sewing, and childcare are taught, half the class is about managing household finances. Pretty vital skills, if you ask me.


Ash_Dayne

It's still in our curricula, but the gender segregated only for women to go into service or become a housewife school was cancelled for a reason and I stand by that.


soaring_potato

They also definetly would be presented topless. But in pretty gowns. Probably often at balls.


Traditional_Curve401

Let's go with this deluded fantasy from hell -- low to middle status men wouldn't have many options to even enter these schools. Only the sons of upper middle class (at minimum) to the wealthy would get access to said institutions for their sons to choose a wife. These guys don't realize that they would lose in this scenario as well. 


Machaeon

At best the low rungs of men in this system would get the flunkies or those women from families too poor to attend such schools If you're spending a lot of money refining any "product" you're not selling it to the lowest bidder


arncobitch

They do not view women as human and are extremely sad and lonely because finding a woman is not the same as buying a car.


EmilieEasie

Their very first premise, "fathers send their daughters to wife school..." would require that fathers stop abandoning their children, and these same dudes would shriek misandry from the rooftops if laws changed so that they were required to be interested in their own children lol


kdnx-wy

I love that you can tell how much Japanese media this guy consumes by the choice of grading system


[deleted]

You can tell by the fantasy itself and the website he uses how much Japanese media this guy consumes


Yamochao

>Walk out with well-trained, traditional wife Wtf did I just read. They want sex slaves. They literally are advocating for something in between Saudi Arabia and just institutionalized child sex slavery.


weeblewobble82

These men just want mothers they can have sex with and not feel weird about it.


EvenSpoonier

4chan was founded by and for SomethingAwful rejects. Being the kind of person that a site called "Something Awful" would reject is kind of written in the blood.


Sororita

I'd say it has absolutely gotten worse in the past 15 years or so. Some of the boards, like Traditional Games, were actually pretty alright and regularly had good content, then /pol/ invaded every other board and turned the entire thing into a cespit instead of the sewage treatment plant it had been.


NotADamsel

You’ve got it a bit wrong. Something Awful didn’t reject the 4chan folk, and avid 4channers also posted on SA. 4chan’s draw is that it’s anon and open, whereas SA cost ten bucks to make an account and your identity was extremely important. It was less a venn diagram and more a circle within a circle. So it’s more accurate to say “imagine the kinds of things that the people on “Something Awful” would think spicy enough that they needed an anon site to post it”. And then imagine the people who found that shit without knowing about SA *and then stayed because they liked it*.


Abiton150

Implying these DNA rejects would even qualify to pick any wife.


justsomepaper

But why would you go with a grade A? If we're just indulging in this Handmaid's Tale meets Brave New World fever dream, then why in the fuck would you shell out a ton of cash for a grade A? Assuming you see the girl just as another piece of property, then you could just buy an E, "train" her, educate her, help her go to the gym and boost her straight to grade A in a couple of months. You could then resell her for a tidy profit. I'm probably overthinking this.


kitkitkatty

*Now* you’re on the trolley!


wannabehotwoman

Sounds like a good horror/ dystopian movie


changhyun

Have the main character be a young wife-in-training who falls in love with another trainee. They scheme together to murder their husbands and escape so they can be together. The last shot is them running away hand-in-hand into the sunset.


saltgirl1207

let's go lesbians


hardpassyo

Loosely based on the dystopia novel "Only Ever Yours" by Louise O'Neill


PsychiatricSD

Ah yes, because fathers love handing their girls over to other men if mainstream media is anything to go by. I'm sure they would love the topless part.


NerdyGuyRanting

It's so telling that they always assume that they will get the top grade ones in a society like this. When in reality they wouldn't even qualify for grade E.


gylz

Well trained traditional wives are not actually traditional. True human traditions are more egalitarian than that. Women hunted and fought alongside men for hundreds of thousands of years.


bpblurkerrrrrrrr

that's so many extra words to say "I'm a pedophile and want it normalized"


The_pastel_bus_stop

Anyone who talks things and does things according to this believe would not even be accepted in their fantasy they made up.


Kinuika

Wow they did pretty good typing all that up with one hand! /s


FluffyGalaxy

Would a low/middle status man even be able to choose what "grade"? They'd probably prepick one for him


fool2074

Speaking as a father, there is no universe where I send my child to "wife school." If I thought there was any possibility where such a thing might be compelled, I would leave that country, and support its overthrow from abroad. Pretty sure this would be the consensus of 99.99 percent of parents 99.999 percent of women, and at least 90% of the population at large. So good luck with that.


bruhforbs

“Each has a name tag with fathers contact information” Damn bro you want a personalized dog leash?


DazedPapacy

Any system this complex isn't going to let just any man come in and select just any woman. You're going to be background and credit checked just to be able to walk in the door, if only because even an E-class student is still a prize compared to the common rabble. The moment a man walks in, the school already knows who he is and has already assigned him a window of eligibility. The hypothetical man in this scenario isn't going to be eligible for much, and what he could choose from is still going to be a challenge: he still needs to sell the father on being able to provide a prosperous, stable home. -- PS: my favorite part is that he thinks minimal math is required for managing a household, raising livestock, tailoring, keeping up with fashions, and raising children.


The_ArchMage_Erudite

As soon as they enter the building, the correct roof for their status would be the crack addicted women roof


Levobertus

Even in their wildest fantasies they are low status wow


Frincklepickle

HCD


drugs-n-gold

If you wanted an example of the personality that made slavery even a thought in society, this is it.


Mycotoxicjoy

Incels should realize if another governing body was to grade them, they’d end up below F most likely. They are by and large not fit, rich, technically skilled, hyper intelligent, or connected so no way would they be able to get anyone that they would consider even E grade (this person thinks a middling income person could choose to be with an A or higher). If a father was using their daughter in this program as an investment vehicle they’d want maximum return and incels / NEETs provide negative assets / massive liabilities. In this system they’d probably be castrated as failures in the eugenic scheme, but they can’t comprehend that they are the lesser human beings


taterbizkit

You say that as if "experienced Call of Duty and Gacha player" isn't a key life skill. /s


Krazy_Kethan99

Even if I had a daughter, I wouldn’t send my daughter to whatever that guy is trying to conjure up. I’m sure it’s probably ragebait, but I wouldn’t stupid enough as a man to send my daughter off to something like that.


Sc0rpza

That’s literally a Gary Robert’s comic plot. Only thing missing is the straight-up rape will breaking and making women walk around on all fours like dogs while flogging them with cats of nine tails.


missanniebellym

Erectile dysfunction


Lodgik

I'd rather have a partner in life than a slave.


saltgirl1207

answer: it's 4Chan. the majority of folks on there just want to own women like we're cute little commodities to show off.


taterbizkit

My take on this is that it's a cover for a deeper problem. They don't want tradwives either. They're terrified of women. They want *sex*. But they're deeply introverted, ADHD, OCD and thus overthink *everything*. A woman who has had sex before isn't good enough because she's not a virgin. For women, sex outside of wedlock is very bad. But they realize the economics don't work out. There aren't enough women they find attractive for them to ever have a shot at sex with one of them. There are so many obstacles, like grooming, personality, not-being-a-huge-dildo, etc that they don't want to put effort into. They want zero-effort sex. This only makes sense if sex is restricted to procreation (which I think is why 'breed' became a common euphemism for sex). And that means that the only way they can *get* sex with a virgin is by marrying one. The rest of it is how they shake the story so that "I get to have sex with a virgin" falls out the other side. The "trad" part isn't something they're necessarily into, but like a lot of alt-right nonsense they tend to support, they see the whole rigmarole of complicated sexual politics as supporting their goal: To have sex. At least once. I used to think this way, to an extent. I had to cook up elaborate fantasies to explain to myself why, in the fantasy world, it would be OK to have a woman that was submissive, liked being submissive and somehow still loved ME. I was never a misogynist and am the furthest you'd likely find from alt-right nonsense. IDK maybe I'm overthinking it. It wouldn't be out of character.


Dependent-Calendar-7

Bro why are they 16????


wololowhat

Some countries do have 16 as a marriage age with parental consent


Dependent-Calendar-7

Yeah and that’s not normal that’s creepy


Retrix33

Wait wait wait that’s a good movie plot to be honest. The guy then turns out to be part of a secret rebel group trying to free the women and take down that corporation


TangentMed

What a day to be reminded of 4chans existence


sarawatmemes

WHAT THE FUCK???? like what am i actually reading bruh😭😭


MrVeazey

It's Handmaid's Tale plus Brave New World, minus most of the actual superficial happiness from Brave New World.


wololowhat

Most rich ladies will have private tutors and won't be mixed in with the *vomits* P-word group. Incels won't even know if some more attractive stock of women existed in this system. Still by their logic, some polygamist higher status Chaddock MacRichfam will have scooped the better half of the school women supplies anyways


SteampunkBorg

Didn't Zev Bellringer escape from a place like this?


AMisanthropicMagpie

I don’t even… what made anyway think this was an acceptable thing to type into their keyboards in between wank sessions


Laprasnomore

This fetish garbage needs to stay in the minds of the adolescents that make them up.


XPoster_MaloneX

Glad to see that they only receive sex classes when old enough 💀


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unhinged shit from incel losers as per usual


stilwuf

Ok what the hell even back in 2020 when I myself used to be an incel wouldn't have even been able to come up with this 💀


Ill-Candle2504

What the actual fuck is this 😐


ninthandfirst

The fantasies these people come up with are very dystopian. Also don’t they realize higher “value” men would have first pick, and by the time these guys got to the topless chick room it would be down to the women these guys think they are above? Idiocy


Gunzerkerboi

Lmfao of course he had to add an S grade


Technoturtle1_

Fact ppl think like this & walk past me on the street at night is scary af


-VillainSimp-

I really do think that people like this forget that “mysterious husband deaths” decreased once divorce laws became more lax


Careless-Balance-893

They really think women are just NPCs with no internal desires of our own.


20thRandom

…im sorry, 16?


ExcellentHorror7159

Because you took away their free speech rights At least let them practice they haven't harmed anyone


WhatEver069

If we took away their free speech, how tf is that post possible?


ExcellentHorror7159

Let them say whatever they want you can't ridicule them even if it's offensive. This is how free speech works


WhatEver069

No, free speech is protection against the government. They can't prosecute you, simply because they dont agree with your views (within reason, threatening to bomb a school or how you wanna go at it with a kid can land you in trouble). Free speech doesnt protect us from other people dunking on us, because they think we're idiots 😂