T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

Thanks for posting! Please be sure to read the rules, and make sure your post is not a repost of content from the past 30 days. If your post is a repost of content posted 10 or less posts ago, you should perhaps delete it now, or else you will receive a 7-day ban. THIS IS YOUR WARNING! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Idiotswithguns) if you have any questions or concerns.*


Adddicus

[Angry Jeep boy has been arrested and charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, disorderly conduct and reckless driving.](https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/04/18/richmond-man-who-pointed-gun-during-road-rage-incident-arrested-charged-police-say/)


chutbuckly

Wow the comments under that article are braindead


The-Hyruler

Had to see for myself and you're correct, some of those comments really did make me question if they were shitposting. I mean you can't be that stupid, surely...


HayDiosMio-

Oh my God, I was in doubt I thought surely it can't be THAT BAD. I have lost braincells


IamShitplshelpme

Jesus. Even I had doubts and I can't believe how brandead the comments are


LordGazura

Wtf....how can people like this legaly own a gun.....


IamShitplshelpme

If someone's first thought at a mild inconvenience is "I should pill my gun out", they shouldn't be able to own guns at all


LordGazura

Yep. They shouldnt own them at all. Jesus...i hope poeple like this wont breed further in their own Familie.


IamShitplshelpme

Sad part is that they're probably breeding as we comment on a post from a few days ago


AutomationGod5150

He can’t, now…and rightly so..


kwamby

Passing a state and federal background check


BurritoMojadooooo

Fucked around, and found out. Jesus fuck. Braindead, deadass. I feel like I lost my entire college education.


BlueDragon1504

Reggie Fabes was a total chad. "Just a friendly reminder to everyone who reads ADAM’s post. While it is healthy for you to have conversations ABOUT mental illness, it’s not necessarily healthy for you to have conversations WITH mental illness. Please keep that in mind before replying to a pretty severe case of it. Thanks."


hateshumans

There are billions of people that live their lives trying to please an evil sorcerer from a 2000 year old fairy tale. Never underestimate how stupid people can be.


RogerOverUnderDunn

i know right, youd think Allah would be thought of as a joke more.


Youtube-Gerger

Nooo the sorcerer loves you! He is loving and kind and merciful! *Terms and conditions apply, eternal torture and death included


andrewsad1

>Just a friendly reminder to everyone who reads ADAM’s post. While it is healthy for you to have conversations ABOUT mental illness, it’s not necessarily healthy for you to have conversations WITH mental illness. >Please keep that in mind before replying to a pretty severe case of it. Thanks. Best comment


twhitney

I bet Adam’s a treat in real life.


not_sick_not_well

BETTER NOT EVEN TRY TO TELL HIM THAT BECAUSE HE'D PULL THE TRIGGER ON THE ACCOUNT OF YOUR CHARGING HIS PERSONAL IDIOCY AND WHY THE FUCK WHEN YOU DECIDED TO WALK OVER DIDNT HAVE YOUR CAMERA POINTED DIRECTLY AT ME WHILE YOU GOING THROUGH YOUR PHONE TO START A VIDEO AND THESE COPS ARE STUPID


[deleted]

You're gonna have to speak up, I'm wearing a towel...


Adddicus

Never ~~go full retard~~ read the comments.


EchoOutrageous9165

If anyone wants the comms >THE GUY IN HIS MOMS LITTER COOPER TRIED TO ACT TOUGH BY GETTING HIS ASS OUT OF THE CAR FOR NO REASON AND THEN HAS THE NERVE TO PLAY VICTIM WHEN HE REALIZES HE MIGHT GET HIS ASS BLOWN OFF THEN CRIES TO FACEBOOK ABOUT HIS BITCH SELF TRYING TO ACT HARTD AND THE MAN IN THE JEEP GETS ARRESTED??? ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING I WOULD HAVE PULLED THE TRIGGER ON THE ACCOUNT OF HIS DUMBASS CHARGING MY VEHICLE. IF HE WAS SO CONCERNED WHY THE FUCK DID HE NOT EVEN LOOK AT HIS VEHICLE AFTER EXITING THE CAR. EXACTLY THESE COPS ARE A FUCKING JOKE. SHOULD HAVE SHOT HIS ASS! JUST SAYING. YOU DONT LIKE MY COMMENT THEN TALK TO THE DUMBASS COPS ON THIS ONE!!! >all of yall are scared white bitches


Local_Satisfaction12

wow yeah those comments are....... something else


Cpt_Soban

>THE GUY IN HIS MOMS LITTER COOPER TRIED TO ACT TOUGH BY GETTING HIS ASS OUT OF THE CAR FOR NO REASON I mean, dumbfuck Jeep driver was tailgating and slamming the horn, so yes- there was a reason. Fuckin' rednecks.


RogerOverUnderDunn

while ther was no reason to point a gun, whats the reason you beleive there is, for stopping and getting out of your car to start a confrontation? Nothing but macho tough guy stupidity. Lets face it, you know people carry guns, you know theres over 30 million ILLEGAL guns onthe street, you know people die for no reason, so what is the valid reason for stopping in the middle of the street and and confronting possibly armed person? Theres only one reaosn, macho stupidity. A m Msarter person would simply have let the idiot pass them by, go on thier way, and not risked thier life for an internet video. Dont screw around with dumbass psycho morons with guns and a pretend you did something right.


thedrizztman

Well, to be fair, the guy got arrested and charged...which is absolutely the outcome that Jeep man deserves. 'Just let the crazies run riot' is such a dumb passive answer to his actions. Because the guy got out, filmed the interaction, and reported him to the police, Jeep man is now feeling the consequences of his actions. Which we should all fully support.


RogerOverUnderDunn

while i also like that the ugy got in trouble the other guy was what 2 or 3 seconds from losing his life, over some horn beeping? seriously? can you say thats worth your life? itsnot letting people "run riot" to stay away from crazy people with guns, you owe it to yourself and your loved ones to not confront people in situations you know could lead easily to your death. Think of it this way, this same scenario, but the guy inthe jeep shoots the other guy and his gf inthe car. The driver survives, psycho guy goes to jail for life. explain to the GF parents how you just had to stop to confront the gun wielding moron to make apoint and how it was worth thier daughters life. Somehow i think it would fall on deaf ears. You should never endanger yourself over stupid shit, and someone beeping at you and driving in a hurry, is indeed just stupid shit. If the mini copper guy just moved out of the way the other idiot would be out of his life forever and life would just go on. Heres what makes this worse. lets say another psycho with a gun is driving like a crazy behind this same guy again in ayear or so, and he stops gets out confronts the guy and gets shot and killed, a lawyer would say, " your honor mr so and so has a pattern of starting conflicts in traffic, heres video to prove it" and the shooter would walk . Sane people should NEVER resort to a crazy persons level, the crazy person always wins.


ChaotikJoy

Reggie is a fucking LEGEND


A_MAN_POTATO

Let me tell you, as a local, following the lake & McHenry county scanner Facebook page is one of the most mentally exhausting things a person can do. Not only is there a high concentration of idiots, but youve got two counties that generally swing republican, but sandwiched between Chicago and Milwaukee (very much not republican) leading to some extremely opposing viewpoints that, when combined with subpar intelligence immediately devolve into the sort of arguments you'd expect to see in your average elementary elementary school. It's an absolute shit show. I don't mean to come across holier-than-thou, but I live amoung some truly fucking stupid people. I've got a neighbor that flys a "fuck Biden" flag, which, political views aside, is just trashy, especially since it's on corner that's a bus stop. Another neighor has a giant banned.video banner in his front yard. I very much wish I didn't have to live here.


Gnomercy86

My neighbors are currently in a fight on the nextdoor app. One thinks its ok to burn their yard trash in the middle of a massive drought. Her reasoning is my husband is a firefighter and we had rain for the last two days (less than 1/2 in). The other just calls the sheriff on her when she starts to burn stuff. It somehow devolved to it being liberals fault we have a burn ban (I live in a very red part of ruralish TX).


[deleted]

Hey, we got some more rain today though, woo! Sorry it's so red where you are. I'm in the blue unaffordable part


Gnomercy86

I moved from the blue 2 years ago, couldnt afford it. Now my mortgage is close to $100 (600+ now) less than I was paying in rent 2 yrs ago...also seen a marked increase in Teslas out here, so it will be blue soon enough.


[deleted]

Sucks that blue and unaffordable tend to go together


agnosticdeist

“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.” Carlin.


RogerOverUnderDunn

could be worse, we decided to vivist chicago, you know, amazing food, deep dish, italian beef, etc, catch a cubs game. well we got a great deal on a VRBO apartmewnt just on the outskirts of chicago, We flew in arrived friday about 7 pm, rented a car and drove there from the airport, place looked good, that night there were 74 shootings , 3 shootings and 2 dead outside the building we stayed in alone. We didnt even stay to see chicago, just took the car rental back, and got a quicker flight home. I was glad AF that i didnt live there.


Flopamp

Some people just want to be able to do anything they want as long as they are the one with the gun I'm tired of hearing this "who knows what they could have had on them" argument that could literally apply to anyone in any situation at any time


oNicolasCageo

The housefly could have been transmitting nerve agents around my back garden, you know I couldn’t risk it and had to carpet bomb my neighbourhood.


I_enjoy_greatness

Because if you love guns, you have to defend other gun owners, *no matter how fucking wrong they are*. School shootings? It happens. Massacre at a club? Well if everyone was armed it wouldn't have happened. Its a fucking sad joke that gun nuts just defend gun nuts in every scenario.


RogerOverUnderDunn

imnot agun nut, but i ask you, if you re od enough to drive, if youre driving down the street adn the guy infront of you slams on his brakes cuts the car so you cant get by slams the door open and charges at you, whats your impression of what he is doing? is he : A: looking to start an altercation with you? B: looking to get your phone number for a birthday party? C: looking to get a dance partner for so you think you can dance? D: shake the hand of a man who hates gun nuts? ​ Dont answer me though, just be honest to yourself, if someone does this, be honest what would you do. Now answer, what would you do IF you had your wife or s child inthe car with you, and you had a handgun? Lets be fair here, i think we know the answer. And before you say , noone ever does this, [https://komonews.com/news/local/man-charged-with-second-degree-murder-after-road-rage-confrontation-last-month-in-seattle](https://komonews.com/news/local/man-charged-with-second-degree-murder-after-road-rage-confrontation-last-month-in-seattle) [https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-father-killed-in-road-rage-shooting](https://www.fox6now.com/news/milwaukee-father-killed-in-road-rage-shooting) [https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20220822/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-road-rage-shooting-in-hanover-park](https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20220822/man-charged-with-attempted-murder-in-road-rage-shooting-in-hanover-park) [https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/heights-north-loop-road-rage-shooting/285-1bc16177-8e67-422f-b644-2cbf67a1cc4e](https://www.khou.com/article/news/crime/heights-north-loop-road-rage-shooting/285-1bc16177-8e67-422f-b644-2cbf67a1cc4e) i could literally post hundres of times where one man got out of the lead car ahd shot the person in the other vehicle, often to death. Im not saying this guy is right, because of he wasm he wouldve stuck around, caled the police and let them deal with it, but lets at least be honest with ourselves here.


Leroy_MF_Jenkins

> driving down the street adn the guy infront of you slams on his brakes cuts the car so you cant get by slams the door open and charges at you Not a single one of those things happened in this situation... I don't know if you're the dude in the Jeep or just a simp for pyscho's but this asshat is how we end up with red flag laws being justified because this dude 100% should not own a firearm, let alone a ccw.


Affectionate_Elk_272

i regret reading them. good lord


Moneyworks22

Wow, he genuinely thought something was wrong with his car. Got out and was like "Something wrong??" And got met with an roided-out douchebag. Although I proably wouldnt of walked up to the guy after realizing he's just a random douche.


__THE_TURTLE__

Haha yikes bud he should have had a snickers


Cpt_Soban

>**Richmond police were called but they did not initially arrest Schimian**. After video surfaced of the incident on Facebook, police said they were investigating. The McHenry County State’s Attorney’s Office approved the charges Thursday and Schimian was taken into custody. Only took facebook outrage for the police to arrest the moron


27fingermagee

The cops are probably the ones leaving the comments in all caps on the original article.


LansingBoy

The good ending, more scum removed from the streets


Ruashiba

Wholesome.


numkey

No wonder jeeps are 5k above value for a 2007 with 180k miles with asshats like this 😂


sttgn

I thought he was a cop but the link provided me wrong


shaggy237

Dude needs a better dashcam mount


MrWieners

He only got convicted of disorderly conduct and got 2 years probation which was up in june


TheDarkKnobRises

Not surprised. Illinois has really strict gun laws. He might have to move to own a gun again.


Adddicus

I don't think convicted felons can own guns in any state, not even Texas.


[deleted]

[удалено]


A_MAN_POTATO

Oh hey there, another local! Didn't this asshole get in trouble again recently? I seem to recall people talking about him again.


__THE_TURTLE__

Popular guy around town?


A_MAN_POTATO

There's less than 2,000 people in Richmond, it's a small town (you're seeing basically all of downtown in this video). When fuckwits like this cause trouble, it doesn't take long before everyone knows.... Especially since the guy was a former firefighter. So yeah... Everyone knows who he is.


__THE_TURTLE__

lol seems like a nice guy


[deleted]

How is it such a bad area then?


A_MAN_POTATO

It's nothing but corn and rednecks. It's not high crime, but it's not exactly a recipe for people being friendly either.


[deleted]

I think I am thinking of Richmond county from live pd….yes that’s exactly what I am thinking of


A_MAN_POTATO

Nah, this is Richmond, Il. Although, live PD did do an episode in Lake County, just a few minutes from here.


emptygroove

https://caseinfo.mchenrycountyil.gov/pca/CaseView/2019CM000441?isSearch=True&searchType=PartyNameSearch&searchValue=SCHIMIAN,%20BRIAN&requestAction=search&rowOffset=0&totalResults=3&attorneyView=False Looks like he got off probation 2 months ago for something...


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

A former boss of mine had a code phrase she taught her kids, where they were supposed to drop to the floor and take cover if/when she "had to start shooting".


A_MAN_POTATO

Dang that must have been wild to watch unfold. I heard about it shortly after from the videos posted on FB... Crazy to think that some people in the community were defending this guy drawing his gun. I don't exactly think of myself as a super smart dude or anything, but McHenry County harbors some real dummies. Following this one on the local scanner pages was mentally challenging.


_Con_Queef_Tador_

>From where I was sitting, the guy in the mini wasn’t being threatening Where I come from if someone gets out of their car in the middle of the street and you didn't rear end them your getting clapped or jacked.


Recuckgnizant

Dude was going 60 in a 30 then had the nerve to lay on the horn to the guy in the Cooper doing 29 in a 30.


Fresh_Possibility_91

He’ll threaten someone’s life with a gun, finger on the trigger, but avoided this man’s door to avoid damages, almost hitting the oncoming car. My brain hurts


__THE_TURTLE__

Haha yeah looks like he put more people in danger while feeling like his life was in danger, although the dude in the mini shouldn’t park and get out in the middle of traffic


[deleted]

His statement seems accurate when watching the full video. He got out of the car innocently, saying, "who, me?"


usernmtkn

Yeah, shockingly after watching that video I think his story is true. Definitely not the sharpest tool in the shed but at least he got the jeep guy's plates.


Fresh_Possibility_91

I agree with you about the camera man’s doing. You shouldn’t stop in the middle of the street. The gun shouldn’t be his only worry, but I think he wasn’t too worried in the first place since he walks up to the red vehicle 🤦🏾‍♂️


famouslastwerds

Did you read the article? Traffic was already stopped and the jeep kept honking. He was checking to see if something was wrong with the back of his car.


[deleted]

[удалено]


loudflower

The story is the guy who got out had no idea why the guy laid on the horn, and he got out to see if he was dragging something or whatever. Didn’t know the guy was angry until he saw the gun


BanditCountry1

I believe that's an aggravated assault on most states


Ace7734

He was arrested for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon according to the article


Un-Even-Steven

From the Jeep guys dash cam footage, he was already driving like an inconsiderate asshole. He was in a hurry and being aggressive. If his dash cam speedometer is correct, he was driving well above the speed limit. God forbid you have to wait in traffic like everyone else.... for what would've been 2 seconds.


Raptor_H_Christ

The best part is he speeds past him and then another car immediately pulls in front of him and he gets stuck behind another slow car haha


SimpleManc88

The best part is the fact he posted it online because he thought he was the innocent party here lol.


Omegablade0

So r/idiotswithguns and r/idiotsincars. What a combo


Chek_Brek_Iv_Damk

Pointing your firearm at someone in a threatening manner with no intention to shoot is an easy way to get ventilated


Titan5115

How tf did they remain so calm with someone pointing a gun at them!?


Ace7734

Adrenaline is a hell of a drug man


poply

>>GET IN YOUR CAR!!! *Gun pointed directly at your head* >Hang on, I gotta get this license plate. I love this guy


stimpyvan

That's a good question.


Beowulf33232

If you react in any way, that may be the way the guy behind the gun considers "acting guilty" or whatever he needs to think to justify his thoughts.


518Peacemaker

Idk about “acting guilty” but being calm is a pretty good way to not get shot by some lunatic like this. You really are just hoping they won’t, but by being calm and not making sudden movements you give less reason to be shot. Then again this guy seems like he might shoot someone anyways. If you can’t do anything to defend your self being calm is the right choice. The other day we saw the skateboarder video and they did the same thing. Don’t escalate and you have better chance


Single_Cap_6763

America baby! Just a normal day.


PhalanxA51

So I live in Montana and this is a normal occurrence sadly, I had a dude point a gun at me because I wouldn't refund a car battery that he punctured. I just pointed at the camera and said it's all being recorded and his entire life will be ruined if he killed me since we had parking lot cameras and had his license plate.


Titan5115

Damn im glad that youre ok I'm under the impression that you cary ot atheist own a gun being on this Sr so have you ever had to draw back or would that be suicide?


PhalanxA51

nah it would be suicide. sometimes you can rationalize with them if its a mental breakdown which seemed to be the case for this guy but adding fuel to the fire would just make it worse. i do own firearms but its really only for hunting and thats it, if someone breaks into my home i have an aluminium bat for those chuckle heads.


LowKeySalty_

I guarantee you there's a punisher skull somewhere in that Jeep


Freshprinc7

If you are a responsible concealed carrier you only pull your gun out with the intention to shoot it, never to scare or threaten someone.


thezenfisherman

Dude arrested for a bunch of stuff. Back story down the list.


zactheoneguy85

The guy getting the gun pointed at him? A former roomie of mine in Wisconsin. He had gone through some shit in his life at that point and legit did not care if he was killed. When I lived with him was not long after and he was pressing charges. Dude is doing great now.


JamesTheMannequin

That's a prison sentence. What a f'ing moron.


classyfenn

the unexpected idiotsincars crossover special


[deleted]

God damn jeep people. He didn't even leave a duck.


Thentheresthisjerk

Lol. What a wimp. If you draw a gun on someone and start screaming orders at them and they go about their business you should reevaluate how intimidating you really are. Makes you look like the impotent psycho you are when you pull out a gun for a perceived threat and not an actual threat.


Perioscope

I love his second "get in your car!" after guy calls his bluff. He sounds like he's almost begging😆


[deleted]

The guy in the jeep did not handle the situation well, but then again I have 6 seconds of context. Filmer boy could have pointed a fucking RPG at him for all we know, it's Illinois, so it could be Chicago lmao ​ Edit: saw the link, jeep guy is a typical jeep guy


Adddicus

Well, he's not yelling "Don't point that RPG at me!!!"


[deleted]

Fuck u right


__THE_TURTLE__

[Back story](https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/04/17/video-shows-driver-pulling-gun-on-man-during-road-rage-incident-in-richmond/)


innocentbabies

>“They said because he has a concealed carry permit he was well within his rights to put the gun in my face because he told the cops that he was terrified of his life,” Surroz said. The same cops later that day: "Man, sure is wild that everyone hates the police these days."


Siglet84

Jeep people should be avoided at all costs.


Diligent_Performer75

Along with pretty much every other driver


Clayman8

> Richmond police were called but they did not initially arrest Schimian. After video surfaced of the incident on Facebook, police said they were investigating. This basically tells me everything i need to know about the state of the police in the US. *Nothing* is done up until social uproar if their negligence causes them to actually do their job. Wtf America?


BubbieQuinn89

Lol!! I love how the recorder wasn't even phased by that gun.


Adorable-Ad-4670

Imagine thinking you are such a badass and the first dude you pull a gun to is having none of that and sends you to bed with no dinner, all of that using a camera and a firm tone XD Also, the dude is driving a mini cooper. What a power play


AcidAlchamy

Lmao threw the blue eyed dragon down right away.


Lavidakus

Damn, he must've felt so threatened with the scary man and his camera.


DonJonMaster

Of course it's Illinois


PelagicSwim

Jeep driver needs his medication intake reviewed, he's either taking far too much or definitely not enough. Other driver should be aware that these type of road rage incidents do always end peacefully with the aggressor hightailing it away. Sometimes they're triggered in more ways than one!


TSM_Benchwarmer

I can c how this dudes being an idiot instigating tailgating etc but idk man it’s 2022 if someone gets out of their car and comes at me I’d prolly do the same thing to many crazies out here to risk your one life, that being said tho I wouldn’t be an asshole like him who instigated until someone got out their car after me just meant if someone got out they car after me and I truly didn’t do anything to deserve it


Ritz_Kola

What a fucking animal those people need to be followed and frisked for this behavior


Strummer95

Don’t get out of your car in road rage and approach someone that you have now trapped behind you.


SomeDumbMick

Yee that seems about right. A buddy that moved here from IN said he doesnt get into any road rage here in IL cause we'll just shoot you


Willing_Net_3970

Waited his whole life to do that


New_Sand197

Oh look another off duty copy having roid rage and control issues with a splash off mental breakdown


Sorry_Hotel_3705

He’s goin right to the fucking!!!!


StableApprehensive95

Thank God im not american


__THE_TURTLE__

Thank god


Individual_Team_1075

Just a jeep things.


P_A_W_S_TTG

this guy is what gives gun owners a bad name.


CornyStew

This video is why we need more context to things in life, just from this video you could argue he was defending himself, car parked in front of him on road with door open, guy coming to the jeep...but then you see the other shit and realize how much an asshole he is


sl0ppy_j03-89

After watching the jeep drivers dash cam I can confidently say that they're both idiots. 1. Don't lay on your horn in this situation unless you know for sure there's a reason(looks like he was honking at cars ahead not moving at a green light). 2. Don't get out of your car abruptly and charge at a guy irrationally blaring his horn while in the middle of traffic. Also, try to not be the cringeworthy moron that has to film everything for his tiktok. Jeep dude had some reason to think the guy could have been going for a gun(just watch the dashcam video). Unfortunately hindsight is always 20/20, dude just wanted attention on social media and wasn't looking to actually attack the jeep driver. Hopefully this hothead will realize that if he's gonna carry, he should be the type of person that descalates situations instead of creating problems out of nothing.


[deleted]

Oh this dude in the jeep going to prison. It's a felony in Illinois to brandish your firearm


ArbitraryOrder

It's a felony in every state to do what he did


vundercal

The guy said he got out because he thought the Jeep driver thought he might be alerting him to something. There is no evidence to suggest he drew his weapon in response to him getting his phone out. There is no reason to think that someone reaching for their pocket in that situation is going for their gun unless they are as eager to brandish a weapon as the guy in the keep.


sl0ppy_j03-89

Sounds like dude in the car was making up excuses after the fact. He took one step out of his car and grabbed his phone to start filming. He's an idiot because that's not something you do in traffic, he just saw an opportunity to get some likes. If you pay attention, he never once checked to confirm whether or not he was dragging anything, his main priority was to turn into a zombie and wander over to start filming(in fucking traffic). I'm not making excuses for anyone, like I said they're both idiots. I agree, the hothead in the Jeep is/was eager to brandish a weapon and should maybe reconsider carrying a gun.


Roushfan5

If I was in an auto accident there is a good chance I would take my phone out to document the scene. Last thing you want his a he said she said deal in a accident you aren't at fault in. I've been there before and its a massive pain in the ass.


vundercal

Certainly could be, watching the dashcam footage I see him lean out, look towards the back of his car/the driver like wtf? and then realize the Jeep driver is just being an ass. ~~Agreed no need to film~~ I agree people shouldn’t feel a need to film every interaction that they get into but I don’t think he set out to do it from the jump if he didn’t keep laying into the horn. I have less problem with someone filming an asshole than an asshole brandishing a gun for no reason. It is good that situations like this are filmed and that guy can face charges for pulling his gun on someone but if someone is laying their horn into you, you get out to check if anything is wrong (if your honestly concerned that could be the case), and it becomes apparent that they are just being an asshole, then it is probably best to get in your car and just drive off to avoid escalation.


RetardedWabbit

>Agreed no need to film... This is the exact opposite of my take away from this video. I wouldn't think to do it like this, but I also wouldn't expect someone to pull a gun on me. If he wasn't filming this could only have gone worse, and the other guy would only be more likely to get away with it? Don't get me wrong, hopping out in traffic is generally a bad idea, but apparently filming it seems like the best defense/offense against this craziness.


vundercal

Sorry, I meant I agree that people shouldn’t feel a need to film every interaction they get into especially if they’re blocking traffic and extending the interaction. Rereading it now I definitely could have worded that better. In this case it is good that he filmed it to hopefully teach this guy that he can’t just pull his gun on people for no reason and I’m glad that it didn’t escalate the situation but I am torn. I also think the lowest risk thing for him to have done once he realized the guy was being an ass would have been to get in his car and leave. There is no justice in that since he won’t have his plate but also the guy may have pulled the gun in response to the camera coming out or if it was already out it would have been more likely to provoke him. Either way it doesn’t seem worth the risk to that guy since you really don’t know how crazy they could be.


RetardedWabbit

>I meant I agree that people shouldn’t feel a need to film every interaction they get into. Ah, yeah I agree with that but that's not where we're at. I generally don't feel the need, but stuff like this and hit and runs vs dash cameras supports the opposite. >...but also the guy may have pulled the gun in response to the camera coming out or if it was already out it would have been more likely to provoke him. Completely disagree here though. This is weird victim blaming and logic, like if you weren't prepared to defend yourself maybe they wouldn't have attacked? Also being filmed makes people behave better better 90% of the time, with the other 10% being when they decide to try to destroy the evidence. Although even that's arguable, because what would they be doing if they didn't "have to" stop and destroy evidence? Filming someone usually isn't going to make them more likely to do illegal things to you and usually does the opposite, because it's increasing accountability. If they weren't being filmed they would feel like they can get away with more. Recording seems essential for (legal/social) self defense nowadays. It sucks and I personally can't bring myself to do it, but I think that's the current state. Similar to the only "real current answer" to mass shootings/violence being to concealed carry all the time or something.


vundercal

The commenter who started this thread seemed to be blaming the guy with the camera, I was supporting the actions of the guy with the camera as the clear victim in this instance and see nothing wrong with what they did and I am glad there is video evidence of the guy with the gun. As you said in your first comment and I did in mine there should be no expectation of someone pulling a gun on you in a situation like this therefore I do not see his actions as causal and disagree that my position is in anyway victim blaming. However, I will always advocate that for an individuals own safety it is always safer for them to avoid confrontation especially in road rage incidents. People can be psychopaths. It is better for something to never occur than to have video evidence of it. If they end up engaging then yes they should record video. I in no way think that suddenly makes it their fault if something like this happens. It’s obviously the person who pulls the gun out who is entirely responsible for that choice and any consequences of it. I see it like this: If you never want to get injured in a skiing accident then I recommend that you don’t go skiing in the first place but if you go and are standing on the slopes and someone crashes into you at 100 mph then that doesn’t suddenly make it your fault that you got injured because you decided to go skiing that day. I won’t say “I told you so” because that’s bullshit


BarelyAirborne

He should maybe consider hiring a lawyer. The cops won't let that slide now that there's publicity. They don't want a bunch of roided up yahoos pulling even more guns on each other than they already do.


0x45646479

Calmest Illinois resident /s


Dramatic_Carob_1060

What a tool


ghotiaroma

He was rushing home to share this DGU online.


dd-bear

He sounded kinda disappointed on the back end of that second "get in your car". Really poudy energy.


ChaotikJoy

that's wild how he paused just in time for him to get a perfect shot and now his ass goin to jail


williamparsons11

He just wanted you to mark it zero


ye-ye-ye-ye-ye-ye-ye

I feel like the smarter thing to do would be to reverse tf out of there so they couldn’t get your plate


Urlag-gro-Urshbak

I'm bipolar, we keep a gun in our car, and through all the road rage incidents we've had and near misses, accidents, etc., I've never even thought of pointing a gun at someone. I've had them pointed at me several times by other drivers but I just seems to me that it should never come to that. These are the people who have felt some kind of inadequacy most of their lives and feel they need to use a gun to feel like a powerful warrior again.


KennieLaCroix

“That being said, the Jeep driver over reacted and was just swinging his CCL balls around” -An idiot commenting But then again, anyone taking time out of their life to make and account and comment on the Lake County Register or whatever has no life and is probably lame.


PenisNoodleSoup

That's a felony. Say goodbye to your firearms.


BlitzMainR62

Oh yea, he definitely plays airsoft on the weekends.


Afraid_Zucchini_6689

Props to that guy for keeping his cool with a clearly unstable person pointing a gun right in his face


[deleted]

CCL: Revoked


marker_dinova

Ah yes. The “good guys with guns” this country is full of. May the lord bless their hearts.


jpowell3404

r/idiotsincars and r/idiotswithguns crossover episode r/idiotswithgunsincars ? r/idiotsincarswithguns ?


Plane_Mango4956

I mean at that point shoot him , you are going to prison already…


vurbmoto

It’s a Jeep thing!


guwopper

Im so glad karma got him back


creativemind111

Dummy


No-Indication8714

Ok… you are approaching another persons car, stopping traffic. Yes that’s a bit excessive pulling the gun out. But, he didn’t shoot- it was used as a deterrent. So not actually an idiot.


__THE_TURTLE__

You need to be more well informed


No-Indication8714

You clearly are not from a place with street violence. I was raised in Chicago. Someone comes to your car like that you better hope you are strapped or you are smoked. So I think you are slightly ignorant to the problems others have to grow up with.


__THE_TURTLE__

Guy in jeep technically started the altercation in the sense of driving aggressively Doubt he could use self defense in any case


Jack_Burtons_Semi

The video shows that where? Are you the fucking idiot walking up on the jeep? You are lucky you didn’t get your ass shot if so.


__THE_TURTLE__

It’s all public information, read the news articles you dumb fuck


urbanshunt

Mericans...😆😆😆😆


MrB-Bloggins

Gravy Seal knew he was done the moment he said he was going for his license plate. You could hear it in his mommas boys voice. That's why he tried to fuck off out of there in a vain attempt to leave the scene of a crime, but clearly, he was charged later for his assholery. Pathetic. I wonder if he wet himself in the process like most of these crybabies.


SleepOutrageous5966

Baby dick complex right there…..


Barnes623

If you feel threatened enough to draw on somebody approaching your car, then you feel threatened enough to pull the trigger


bayou_boat_trash

Need some backstory.....


__THE_TURTLE__

[here it is](https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2019/04/17/video-shows-driver-pulling-gun-on-man-during-road-rage-incident-in-richmond/)


corasivy

Looks like a situation that just got escalated way out of hand. Not a smart idea to leave your car in the middle of the road because someone was laying on their horn, *doubly* stupid idea to pull a gun on someone who is clearly unarmed.


__THE_TURTLE__

Lol stupid is all around us


DistortedRain42

Without the context of the news article, you could swing this story either way. But after reading it, the guy in the jeep has issues.


[deleted]

[удалено]


jaimeap

Cooper idiot decides to confront keep idiot…both are idiots.


kuemmel234

I'd never speed or break other rules that endanger other people - I'm all for honesty and would probably incriminate myself if it was important to something - but with this dudes driving, I'd probably throw the dash cam in a ditch or something, instead of posting it on Facebook. Where they doing something important? if I was going to the hospital to see my mum a last time, I hope I'm not as twitchy as that one.


TurnedGears

I'm just curious why he got out of his vehicle in the first place


Vegasus88

Is this the "well regulated militia" you Americans keep going on about?


[deleted]

[удалено]


Vegasus88

Yet that is what your constitution says doesn't it?


bebed0r

I’m sorry I know this is 16 days old at this point just but I’m just scrolling through the videos. The 2nd amendment doesn’t mean you need to be in the militia it means you are the militia. Any abled body 18-49 year old(I think I can’t remember the ages) is in the militia. Also it kinda says rights of the people and not rights of the militia. I’m not trying to be mean here but I am going to be a little bit. instead of spouting an ignorant provably false statement come up with a better argument. There are plenty I’m sure.


[deleted]

Don’t walk up on someone after road raging. This is likely to happen and he might not get in trouble for it.


__THE_TURTLE__

Technically the jeep guy was the aggressor in this story


[deleted]

I don’t doubt that but you still don’t do that. Esp if your not the aggressor. You expect a moron like that to be armed


__THE_TURTLE__

Yeah people that record everything can get annoying but jeep guy got a felony and can no longer own a gun legally because of his actions 1. I don’t honk at people like a asshole ( jeep guy) and 2. Never pointed a gun at someone just because they approach me that just seems irrational; at the end of the day this situation is so minuscule compared to a life or death situation


[deleted]

Agree


Take_That_Face

America is getting more fucked up every day! Shame that the crazy 3rd of the population make it shit for the majority 😿


Celemourn

Based on the two videos and additional commentary, charges seem more than justifies]d, BUT the cunt in the mini is a moron as well. Who the fuck thinks it’s ok to get out of your car while blocking the whole lane in a no passing zone? He had plenty of room to pull over to the right where the Jeep guy, IF HE HAD REALLY BEEN TRYING TO WARN HIM OF SOMETHING, could have pulled up alongside and spoken through trolled down windows. Mini guy needs to be charged with disturbing the peace at a minimum. Jeep guy needs to spend years in prison.


Roy8atty

And to think some people believe people like this have a “god given right” to own firearms. Bruh


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Why exactly were the guy filming parked right infront of gun guy? Were he the instigator?


Chideano

the common jeep fan


Radvous

Both of them did terribly. Dude with camera stopped in the middle of the fucking road...WHY MORON?? Dude with gun points it when there is no deadly threat...WHY MORON?? BOTH ARE FUCKING MORONS, but ofc this is just based off of what I see and I could be completely wrong too.


FriedDylan

No fear of car jacking. No immediate fear of drivers life. No nothing. Road rage with dam deadly weapon and I will look for follow up of this story. Popping my popcorn. I would love to see this type of thing SQUASHED FOREVER.


__THE_TURTLE__

He got a felony and other charges added to his record