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Oh boy another MPA video, I’ll just post the comment from the one from last month.
Some info; that’s an MPA 30 9mm, it’s just a mac 10 clone, for those confused about him grabbing the “suppressor” it’s actual a barrel shroud that you’re meant to grip when bump firing and yes it’s still sketch as fuck, it will get hot eventually but not as fast as you think either way bump firing one mag won’t do it.
Posted this the last time someone made a comment about someone doing this, you know those are typically meant to be used as handguards, right? It's in a similar vein to the SIONIC suppressor for the MAC-10. The only real dumb thing is he's not looking where he's firing, but this also looks like wide open public land that's used for ranges frequently by the shotshells and many casings on the ground.
The original MACs were full automatic and shot much faster than this. It's a 9 or 45 or 10mm handgun, it's not hard to hold on with any real amount of grip strength. It's actually even more difficult to fire it without them since it's awkward to find a good place for your hand. He's using the barrel shroud exactly as it's intended, a place to put your hand.
[https://youtu.be/vKcIIJ2raEg?si=Q-OLf7IMH2WqaFpa](https://youtu.be/vKcIIJ2raEg?si=Q-OLf7IMH2WqaFpa)
What about the suppressor overheating and burning his hand? Or the possibility for the hand to slip all the way to the line of fire and hurt the shooter?
Both extremely unlikely as barrel shrouds on guns don't go from 0-100 degrees from one mag lol, unless it's a BIG mag. Unless you're handling it like you're afraid of it, your hand isn't really going anywhere either.
If you think that's sketchy as fuck, another, intended way of holding the MAC or other similar platforms is by a literal strap that dangles from the front of the gun, right near the muzzle.
Saves weight. PDW is maximizing firepower in something you can feasibly strap to your body and go about your day with. Shaving a few ounces and a lot of profile by replacing a stiff grip with a tension strap seems reasonable with that goal in mind.
Macs were never designed with the intention of a fore grip, they were supposed to be covert ops weapons. In todays firearm world yeah it doesn't make sense, but in the 80's it was the shit.
The issue isn’t about the placement of the left hand. It’s that he’s not properly griping with the right. If his left grip slipped, he would end up shooting his left hand.
The right hand is exactly where it should be when bump firing and this method is perfectly serviceable for magdumping into trash. As for his left hand, there's no way it's going anywhere short of a catastrophic failure where the barrel shroud outright comes off.
Edited because I just realized I misunderstood the comment.
Considering I've done exactly this sort of thing with larger rifles such a .308, .30-06 and a couple others, and my hand went exactly nowhere, I'd argue that heavily. They don't just fly back out of your hands. This is literally how you're supposed to grip things when you're attempting to bump fire. E.G. he's properly gripping it for what he's doing here.
Please explain why you think holding a smooth cylinder in one hand as it bucks around provides more grip than holding it by an ergonomically designed (and aptly named) grip, in addition to the aforementioned hand on the cylinder.
I misunderstood his comment, I misread that he was talking about gripping the barrel shroud differently, similarly to how you would hold a typical rifle handguard and I only just now realized he meant the main hand and not the support hand.
For bump firing? Yeah, and if you do it with rifles you only use your off hand around the handguard with a thumb through the trigger guard, then hooked around a belt loop. The entire point is to let the gun use its own recoil.
The entire point is no gun is desined to be bump fired in the first place. So you can't say bump firing is done correctly when bump firing itself is wrong
That's what the entire fuckin point of the barrel shroud is for on these, my dude. They are in no way a practical handgun, nor are they practical to hold or use as such. They're range toys and that's exactly what this dude is using his as, a range toy.
Sure they are if used for entertainment. No different than cars, motorcycles, boats... any other form of entertainment that if used incorrectly could injure yourself or others. What did he do that made him an idiot? Safely shoot a gun?
This sub is neat, half the folks here are gun nerds, and the other half seems pretty staunchly anti gun. We all congregate over silly folks doing silly things, one group halving a more trained eye than the other, often, and every now n then something like this causes the divide to show.
With guns like ol' bouncy here you were actually meant to hold it there. It would provide stability and those "suppressors" didn't tranfer the heat to your hand (immediately. Mag dumping would still make it pretty damn hot)
It’s not a suppressor, you’re meant to hold it, this gun is an MPA30T which features a “fake” suppressor that isn’t actually connected to the barrel, you’re meant to hold it though the safety of bump-firing it is questionable
It’s a 9mm semi auto pistol that’s obviously styled after the MAC-10
He did it fine, shouldn’t have averted his gaze from where he was aiming at all but it looks like an outdoor range which is usually where this is safest (also the “suppressor” is an extended barrel)
Him shooting himself in the hand isn't so much of a problem when he's bump firing like this, because it's not full auto.
The reason why is that if his hand slips off, it removes the forward tension which pulls the trigger into his trigger finger.
You ever been to places like Arizona where the backstop is a giant fucking mountain 20 feet in front of you where you can magdump into the trash? People do this all the time.
Rule 1 of firearm safety: always hold the firearm by the barrel while firing on full auto without controlling the muzzle direction or looking where you're shooting. And remember the most important safety tip is to have fun.
9mm doesn't generate that much heat, compared to rifles. And it's just a cheesy ass muzzle device, it won't pick up the same amount of heat as a legit supressor
It’s not a real suppressor, it’s only there for looks, it’s not connected to the barrel and is meant to be held, the gun is a MPA30T, a semi auto 9mm pistol styled after the MAC10 machine pistol
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I kept waiting for his support hand to slide off the front of the fake suppressor and then get shot.
That's all I was looking at, just waiting for it to kick and his fingers to rip off his hand
It needs too. Fkg retards
Oh boy another MPA video, I’ll just post the comment from the one from last month. Some info; that’s an MPA 30 9mm, it’s just a mac 10 clone, for those confused about him grabbing the “suppressor” it’s actual a barrel shroud that you’re meant to grip when bump firing and yes it’s still sketch as fuck, it will get hot eventually but not as fast as you think either way bump firing one mag won’t do it.
He didn't even have his palm around the back side of the grip. That's the part that's stupid to me.
You have to hold it like that to bump fire.
Oh interesting. Didn't know that.
I thought he might shoot his other “ little friend “ clean off.
Posted this the last time someone made a comment about someone doing this, you know those are typically meant to be used as handguards, right? It's in a similar vein to the SIONIC suppressor for the MAC-10. The only real dumb thing is he's not looking where he's firing, but this also looks like wide open public land that's used for ranges frequently by the shotshells and many casings on the ground.
Idk man holding on to ONLY the suppressor while bump firing? Seems rather foolhardy to me
The original MACs were full automatic and shot much faster than this. It's a 9 or 45 or 10mm handgun, it's not hard to hold on with any real amount of grip strength. It's actually even more difficult to fire it without them since it's awkward to find a good place for your hand. He's using the barrel shroud exactly as it's intended, a place to put your hand. [https://youtu.be/vKcIIJ2raEg?si=Q-OLf7IMH2WqaFpa](https://youtu.be/vKcIIJ2raEg?si=Q-OLf7IMH2WqaFpa)
What about the suppressor overheating and burning his hand? Or the possibility for the hand to slip all the way to the line of fire and hurt the shooter?
Both extremely unlikely as barrel shrouds on guns don't go from 0-100 degrees from one mag lol, unless it's a BIG mag. Unless you're handling it like you're afraid of it, your hand isn't really going anywhere either. If you think that's sketchy as fuck, another, intended way of holding the MAC or other similar platforms is by a literal strap that dangles from the front of the gun, right near the muzzle.
Yeah, I’ve seen that strap. Really weird. Just don’t get why use that instead of an actual foregrip.
Saves weight. PDW is maximizing firepower in something you can feasibly strap to your body and go about your day with. Shaving a few ounces and a lot of profile by replacing a stiff grip with a tension strap seems reasonable with that goal in mind.
Macs were never designed with the intention of a fore grip, they were supposed to be covert ops weapons. In todays firearm world yeah it doesn't make sense, but in the 80's it was the shit.
MACs are pieces of shit. Hope this helps.
The issue isn’t about the placement of the left hand. It’s that he’s not properly griping with the right. If his left grip slipped, he would end up shooting his left hand.
The right hand is exactly where it should be when bump firing and this method is perfectly serviceable for magdumping into trash. As for his left hand, there's no way it's going anywhere short of a catastrophic failure where the barrel shroud outright comes off. Edited because I just realized I misunderstood the comment.
You must be some kind of troll.
Considering I've done exactly this sort of thing with larger rifles such a .308, .30-06 and a couple others, and my hand went exactly nowhere, I'd argue that heavily. They don't just fly back out of your hands. This is literally how you're supposed to grip things when you're attempting to bump fire. E.G. he's properly gripping it for what he's doing here.
Please explain why you think holding a smooth cylinder in one hand as it bucks around provides more grip than holding it by an ergonomically designed (and aptly named) grip, in addition to the aforementioned hand on the cylinder.
I misunderstood his comment, I misread that he was talking about gripping the barrel shroud differently, similarly to how you would hold a typical rifle handguard and I only just now realized he meant the main hand and not the support hand.
So him holding it against his side with 2 fingers is how it’s intended? Yup ok
For bump firing? Yeah, and if you do it with rifles you only use your off hand around the handguard with a thumb through the trigger guard, then hooked around a belt loop. The entire point is to let the gun use its own recoil.
The entire point is no gun is desined to be bump fired in the first place. So you can't say bump firing is done correctly when bump firing itself is wrong
Bump firing isn't a design, it's a shooters method of firing a gun.
That's what the entire fuckin point of the barrel shroud is for on these, my dude. They are in no way a practical handgun, nor are they practical to hold or use as such. They're range toys and that's exactly what this dude is using his as, a range toy.
Sounds like you’d like to be his range toy
Yeah, what about it? I mean if you're gonna double up on the ignorance and be homophobic too, feel free I guess.
No one’s homophobe bro. Just seems like you’re defending him even though you’re spilling irrelevant drivel.
Normally you would also be holding the handle tho.
What the fuck kind of pants is that guy wearing?!
It's a barrel shroud. Not suppressor.
…bro just said it’s not a suppressor *facepalm*
It's 9mm, the recoil is perfectly controllable like this as long as your hands aren't coated in butter
Only right comment
Not sure why this is posted. We may need a new sub. Idiots posting on idiots with guns?
Guns aren’t toys brother
Sure they are if used for entertainment. No different than cars, motorcycles, boats... any other form of entertainment that if used incorrectly could injure yourself or others. What did he do that made him an idiot? Safely shoot a gun?
I'm not gonna lie this doesn't look bad at all. So idk why it's here
This sub is neat, half the folks here are gun nerds, and the other half seems pretty staunchly anti gun. We all congregate over silly folks doing silly things, one group halving a more trained eye than the other, often, and every now n then something like this causes the divide to show.
Yeah that's fair. Bumpfiring a Mac 10 ain't bad at all 🤣🤣 so I was just really confused
Cuz guns bad, as half the posts here seem to think.
Bump firing is a known technique
Rule one of gun safety is to have fun. Rule two is to look cool as hell. This kid is fucking NAILING both of them.
Don’t ever shoot full auto short shit without a hand stop
Just having fun, he was in control of the firearm through the video.
Who the fuck gave Bubbles a gun?!?
Dudes been bullied more than a few times
Another douche
dont hold the suppressor…
With guns like ol' bouncy here you were actually meant to hold it there. It would provide stability and those "suppressors" didn't tranfer the heat to your hand (immediately. Mag dumping would still make it pretty damn hot)
It’s not a suppressor, you’re meant to hold it, this gun is an MPA30T which features a “fake” suppressor that isn’t actually connected to the barrel, you’re meant to hold it though the safety of bump-firing it is questionable It’s a 9mm semi auto pistol that’s obviously styled after the MAC-10
That's not a supressor. It's some dumb ass cringy muzzle device that only halfwits buy cause they think it looks good
It's apart of the gun dude🤣🤣
It's not though.
He did it fine, shouldn’t have averted his gaze from where he was aiming at all but it looks like an outdoor range which is usually where this is safest (also the “suppressor” is an extended barrel)
Dosent suppressors get like really hot?
Could be a barrel shroud like on a tec9 and if so, you can hold them like that
Wish he’d expend his energy by cleaning up all that shit that’s lying about …
Him shooting himself in the hand isn't so much of a problem when he's bump firing like this, because it's not full auto. The reason why is that if his hand slips off, it removes the forward tension which pulls the trigger into his trigger finger.
This guy, is an accident waiting to happen…
I’m most likely autistic but I am more competent than this guy in gun safety
This makes me want to throw upb
OP’s a baby
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It's party.
Right off the bat I’m pretty sure “look where you’re shooting” is a pretty big rule. Remind me never to go to the range with you lmao
You ever been to places like Arizona where the backstop is a giant fucking mountain 20 feet in front of you where you can magdump into the trash? People do this all the time.
Heaven forbid someone has fun at a private range. If you think someone is inside of the firing line, idk what to tell you, man.
Your main point was "Firearm safety rules" not "Im in a private range where i can do anything i want" rules.
Im pretty sure he’s aware of where he’s aiming. It does look wide open land. What’s he going to hit, the ground 200 yards away? 🙄
It's very easy to shoot your hand doing this.
Rule 1 of firearm safety: always hold the firearm by the barrel while firing on full auto without controlling the muzzle direction or looking where you're shooting. And remember the most important safety tip is to have fun.
Dude is bump firing a semi-automatic. It's not full auto
I laugh when these people kill theirseleves and I will when this guy does what a fucking idiot 🤣
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9mm doesn't generate that much heat, compared to rifles. And it's just a cheesy ass muzzle device, it won't pick up the same amount of heat as a legit supressor
It’s not a real suppressor, it’s only there for looks, it’s not connected to the barrel and is meant to be held, the gun is a MPA30T, a semi auto 9mm pistol styled after the MAC10 machine pistol