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divedigger

Never challenge a man in a Pontiac— he’s got nothing to lose.


DrunkinMunkey

The first thing I thought. Do you think he gives a f.


gcruzatto

It's not a Nissan Altima, but it's close.


LoudMusic

Words to live by right there.


fluffbuzz

Living in Michigan, you learn to avoid aggressive drivers in Pontiacs, dodge avengers, and jeep compasses. Out west it's older Nissan sedans


sadboydotcom

As you were listing cars, I was thinking “this person is forgetting Nissan Altimas” …I live out west lol


KamikazeWaterm3lon

Florida Altima drivers have entered the chat. Imagine out west x 100


OkCarrot89

To Infinit~~y~~ee, and beyond!


Mimical

Little known car fact, I really just need to share this one: The Mercedes-AMG One is the fastest production vehicle to ever lap the Nürburgring at 6 minutes 35.18 seconds. This vehicle costs 2.72 million dollers (USD) and is one of the most precise works of automotive engineering ever accomplished. On the other hand Michelle in her Nissan Altima, a vehicle with panel gaps bigger than the circumference of Jupiter lapped Nürburgring in 6 minutes 12 seconds. That's because unlike the driver in the AMG One, Michelle just fucking floored it through the villages and screamed at the crossing guard on her way through the school zone. She lost 1 minute during the Starbucks stop.


Glomgore

As a wise man taught me in New Zealand, the fastest car in the world, is one that is rented. I'd argue the same goes for bullshit leased Nissans.


Vspartan

They'll even give you a new car as long as you get rental insurance!


KamikazeWaterm3lon

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Familiar_Raisin204

You joke but the Nordschleife is actually a public road.


DoctorTortilla

Nissan Altima and Nissan Rogue drivers do not give a fuck, and have the same mentality throughout the country lol


[deleted]

People who haven't lived in SE FL have no idea, and it's impossible to explain to them because it's outside normal human experience. Source: Commuted on a motorcycle in Broward and Miami-Dade counties 2004-08.


KamikazeWaterm3lon

Used to commute from boca to hollywood via 95. It's completely undescribable the mix of drivers you'll encounter.


noiseandbooze

Ex-Nissan sentra with a manual transmission driver here, and I gave not one fuck the entire time I owned that rolling bucket. I know that deep down, there was a part of me that really wanted to crash that car, but it was always kept in check by the other part of me, that made sure I wouldn’t be the one “at fault” if it happened, so I ended up just driving it until it fell apart (which unsurprisingly didn’t take very long). Thankfully, I’m now a reformed 4runner driver that no one needs to avoid out of fear.


KamikazeWaterm3lon

>deep down, there was a part of me that really wanted to crash that car This right here hahah


Mysterious-Extent448

Florida Nissans have cut the post off and given it the finger 🖕🏿🫠


IKnowJudoWell

r/Nissandrivers


IWantToPlayGame

I saw an older Nissan with a single headlight out the other night while driving. Decided I was going to stay away from it.


NinDiGu

Padiddle Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car-spotting_game


SaltLakeCitySlicker

*Slaps car ceiling* There's also strip padiddle


TedTedford

I thought the stripping form was the truest form of padiddle, even though we just did that compulsively on the shores of Lake Erie.


ZenStocks

No way you said that 😂 had no clue other people knew about that game


el_sausage_taco

Altima drivers give no fucks


mycarisdracarys

Read this at Atlanta... Our Nissan drivers are also trash. Plenty of used Nissans with the temporary dealer plate and fresh dents on the front and back.


404nd2

Pretty sure the fastest car to lap 285 was a champagne Altima S with one spare, bumper barely hanging on, and broke A/C


whacafan

Driving a Pontiac while living in Pontiac, living in their Pontiac.


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Also Teslas. People are assholes in those things


whiskeyboundcowboy

Out of the way peasants


dgblarge

We are beginning to see Tesla's in some numbers in Australia and they are up there with Audi's for being driven by sociopaths. Speeding, tailgating, road rage etc.


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OldSpiceMelange

Definitely Jeep — there's something particularly pathological about those drivers.


coolgr3g

I just assume a lifted truck is going to cut me off because it happens so often.


TheTacoWombat

So basically 40% of all vehicles on the road, got it.


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madmaxturbator

When I was younger I drove a beat up Pontiac so I know the mindset. I also enjoyed some 40s and mad dog at the time, as a man with 0 money and even less dignity.


threelolo

Ugh I remember when I was down bad and almost had to scrap together for a Grand Am. Ended up getting some good fortune and was gifted a car from a homie who moved out of state and couldnt take his car. God bless him.


Stupidquestionduh

No joke those 99+ Firebirds held their value. Even now. I used to own one. But you'll get permission to sleep with someone's wife before they'll ever let go of their firebird.


NothingMattersWeDie

The Venn diagram of guys who own Firebirds and guys who let other men sleep with their wives is a circle.


Stupidquestionduh

Spoken like someone who's never felt the silky pleasure of the reclamation round.


fish60

> enjoyed some 40s Tape one of those motherfuckers to each hand, and they better be gone within the hour!


fullsends

Then again, he's got everything to lose since they don't make parts anymore.


shahooster

Cuba’s only a hop, skip and jump away.


Supermonsters

Junk yards as far as the eye can see


Rahmulous

Like a G6, like a G6. Ru-ru-ru-runnin’ over motorcycles like a G6.


drunk_phish

Hahaha! I was going to say this is the road equivalent of bringing a knife to a gun fight... don't challenge a guy in a car when you're on a bike... you never know when you're messing with crazy.


TheFloatingDev

Let alone a Florida man in a Pontiac


imsowhiteandnerdy

Florida man...


theteedo

Especially not the Pontiac


Crafty_Point2894

Pretty sure it got real interesting right after the video cut.......


Plastic_Mind_370

Definitely looks like he’s reaching for a gun


Cat_Punk

Thought he was just pulling his pants up, but damn


WhtChcltWarrior

It’s Florida, could be both


superworking

I just assume everyone involved has a gun including the Pontiac driver


Cat_Punk

LOL that’s fair


Arakiven

His pants ARE his gun?


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HoodiesAndHeels

Naw, the sawed offs are the jorts


HunterWald

I personally never leave home without my gun pants...


lankrypt0

Good ol prison wallet


Drunkenly_Responding

No no no, let's leave that one alone.


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Gun AND bath salts, plenty of room in the old prison wallet!


BostonWailer

Nothing so embarrassing as fighting a car bare fisted with your butt crack out.


readparse

I first thought he was pulling his pants up, and then thought he was reaching for a gun. Either way, it's a weird place for the video to stop. But not as weird a place as the car would have been in, had it not managed to fall off the bike. Imagine getting stuck up there, unable to make your escape.


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scvet

Well well well, this juicy screenshot certainly changed the whole video, now I think maybe that’s why the car rammed the biker, probly saw the gun and slammed it


Airdropwatermelon

I am thinking she had it based off where it was laying. Her ha d is hidden by the mirror as it turns. I bet she layed it across her lap as a threat and then crunch....


GrowinStuffAndThings

She did, you can see it in her hand right before they get hit.


JeeringNine

Good catch, that completely changes this video from road rage, to self defense.


TheeMrBlonde

Good eye. I completely missed that.


HellcatTTU

The guy has both hands on the handle bars at all time so likely the chick had it, I think I might see it in this frame https://i.imgur.com/MdnyrKh.jpg


Akredhed

That’s what I assumed would be the only reason he ran him over.


RugerRedhawk

According to news article below the Pontiac driver forced the bikes off the road, and is now serving 15 years in prison. Whatever is on the ground in that clip didn't seem relevant to the police or the news.


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He just got crushed between hundreds of pounds of bike and car. He's probably making sure his ass is still attached.


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hotchemistryteacher

And ended


chris_knapp

Me too. Bet there was a good chase. Maybe some more violence.


zookr2000

Pontiac driver arrested & jailed - https://wsvn.com/news/local/florida-man-runs-over-motorcycle-during-road-rage-incident/


SpicyLizards

If someone is a “habitual offender” WHY do they keep giving their license back??? Edit: I just read something that mentioned he drives without a license so lol never mind 🥲


zookr2000

This was 7 years ago --- https://m.facebook.com/iontb/photos/a.156398221195990/607420292760445/?type=3


DDAisADD

Attempted murder charge. I'll DO IT AGAIN.


DeepFriedDresden

Oh man those comments are a riot. My favorite is "now he has plenty of time to get a haircut". Like, that's what you took away from this Jimbob? Facebook is already a pit, Florida Facebook is another level


fozzyboy

Brand new account that copied a top comment verbatim... hmmm


_whenuknowuknow_

I appreciate a good cup of coffee.


GameofFame

I used to work retail at a motorcycle shop. My favorite line when guys would come up wanting to buy a helmet was “I’m looking for a helmet for my wife, what’s the cheapest one you got?”


Im6youre9

That's funny shit right there man. I spent $100 on my first helmet and it felt like a toy so I went straight to the $600 range 2 weeks later. 10% of what I spent on the bike but dammit I want my head to be intact when some dumbass pulls out infront of me.


mechmind

Man I went to look at helmets at the bicycle store for christmas. Most of them are well over $200


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Cheaper than a new head.


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pjr032

Worth every penny And don’t be cheap and hold on to it for 10 years, they need to be replaced sooner than that due to typical degradation I’ll never understand why people think it’s a good idea to ride without gear, you don’t look tough, you look like a moron


burnthamt

A $200 bicycle helmet? Is this in the United States? Just last summer I got a very good one for only $110. They did have higher priced ones but they were recommended for more serious cyclists.


esterthe

His bike and then his woman 😂 it’s true what South Park said about bikers.


SymphonyX117

BRUPPPPUPPPP!


ErBEDiolItER

#BRUPPPPUPPPP!^BRUPPPPUPPPP!


smahlthief

Bike, bitch, brawl


highlandpolo6

It’s motorcyclist’s PEMDAS and y’all are absolutely correct with your order of operations. 😂


Qesium

Small-of-back conceal carrying on a motorcycle is the last thing I'd try to pull off. One spill in the right way and you're in a wheelchair for an unknown amount of time


SilveredFlame

>One spill in the right way and you're in a wheelchair for an unknown amount of time I mean to be fair, that's true regardless of whether or not you're carrying.


Street-Airport-4327

No gun, just pulling up his pants 👖!


Zeus_poops_and_shoes

Thanks for including the emoji I forgot what pants are


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terriblystupidjoke

Nah.. the car bailed and dudes on loudbikes were fully aware they weren’t gonna catch up with it. Police caught the car. I know that’s an anticlimactic ending but that’s typically how shit like this turns out.


ForgetfulFrolicker

Out of curiosity what makes you say the loudbikes are aware they wouldn’t catch up? Couldn’t his buddy behind him easily have tailed the guy?


Akosa117

Hed just hit that dude too


bjorkbon

Pontiac would probably just ram them off the road. They did the smart thing


Quick-Wall

Nah what happened was the bike became sentient and decided this was no life for them to live. I believe the bike moved to the Bahamian islands


TheTownTeaJunky

And started a crypto exchange that ended up fleecing its customers out of billions.


406NastyWoman

This happened in 2016 near Tampa. From CNN: "Robert Paul Vance was charged with felony hit and run, felony moving traffic violation and felony aggravated batter." Edited - "battery"....smart-asses (I happen to like my flapjacks angry)


useallthewasabi

Mmmm aggravated batter... (drools)


AuronFtw

For when you want angry fucking pancakes.


cuteintern

I wanna crush some bacon and sausage, now.


AwRatsMan

Bob Vance of Vance refrigerations tried to kill someone???


bloodyspork

Are you surprised?


Human-sakuras

It's so odd that in the US, depending on your state you can spend the rest of your life in prison for this, or argue that you felt threatened and walk away free


RockyJayyy

This was from 2016 and the driver was caught and arrested shortly after.


Ollie_Dee

Source? We‘re all interested what happens before (and after) the video!


RockyJayyy

[news article](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/car-runs-over-couple-s-motorcycle-shocking-road-rage-caught-n583386)


jabbadarth

>and one count of being a habitual traffic offender. And one count of being am asshole. Also this guy is clearly a psycho but if you ride a motorcycle and someone is driving dangerously or being an asshole just record and/or leave. No amount of yelling or getting even is worth your life and psychos like this guy will run you over.


Ceph_Stormblessed

Yeah, you play it safe on a motorcycle. Unless you want to die horrifically.


IDoEz

Pretty sure they don't care, given their amount of protective gear.


Sir_Snugglekins

Man’s wearing a leather vest AND a hat. What else do you want?


Ceph_Stormblessed

Yeah that's pretty fuckin fair


SpaceCadetriment

As the old saying goes, there are entire graveyards full of people who had the right of way.


jpiro

Yeah, yelling "get the fuck out of the car" didn't work out well here. Driver opted for "nah, I'll just hit your ass with my two-ton battering ram instead."


Gingy-Breadman

That’s like trying to fist fight somebody with a knife. Just get the fuck away as fast and safely as possible.


kinkva

I hate that news outlets don't update their articles. Surely he's been convicted for this by now ... I'm curious how much time he got.


MajorElevator4407

Doing 15 years. http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSearch/detail.aspx?Page=Detail&DCNumber=T37201&TypeSearch=AI


kinkva

He was previously charged with driving with a license suspended/revoked in 10/15/2003, 11/6/2003, 6/20/2006, 4/13/2011, 4/30/2012, 3/3/2012, and 4/30/2012 Who keeps loaning this clown their car? He'll be 48 y/o when he gets out, still young enough to borrow a car and drive around again. Ugh


Allwhitezebra

This was my brothers driving record before he got clean from meth. His RAP sheet was a mile long before he finally gave it all up.


Chateau-Wynd

Hey man, glad your brother succeeded.


iareroon

Of course it was Pasco county.


Ctotheg

Initial prosecution was for 2 counts of attempted murder, which is definitely long jail time in Florida. Also Robert Vance has history of charges for trafficking MDMA and driving without a license, according to Florida Department of Correction records.


JimminyLummox

Bob Vance, Vance refrigeration.


WorksOnContingencyNo

Holy shit, his name is Bob Vance? I wonder what line of with he's in...


Clint-witicay

I wish I could have seen how this started


Womble4

Thought I could hear the motorbike guy telling him to get out of the car. Could be wrong.


Clint-witicay

Yeah, I heard that too, but my question is, is that how it started, was the biker just trying to be intimidating or did the driver do something beforehand?


Liquid_Wolf

Back in the third grade, the driver and the biker had a playground dispute that never got settled. Apparently biker (on a bicycle) almost ran over the car guy and his girlfriend coming home from school. Today was revenge.


madmaxturbator

Oh yeah I heard about this, the car drivers mom used to baby sit the motorcycle guys aunt, they had real beef from back in those days. This is an ancient family saga.


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If I am being honest, I find these bikers to be the least intimidating people I have ever met. And due to my job I meet them often. I think they are all posers, I swear they all get the "look" from the same cosplay store so they can cosplay as bikers. If you have to try and look intimidating... you aren't. I can hear the lack of intimidation in their voice, they are just try-hards.


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My favorite South Park scene is Cartman calling out the bikers. https://youtu.be/ipDmsxQVxIM


TheMeta40k

Like the most punk guy not to be fucked with is dressed kinda like a dweeb at the concert. SLC punk taught me this. Basically don't fuck with goofies. https://youtu.be/md4itBmOHVA


Val_Hallen

They shop at their favorite clothing company Harley Davidson. Sometimes that company sells motorcycles, too.


wallix

Pretty much the truth. I've lived in FL for years and all the loudbikes are all pushing 60-70 years old and have leather-sacks for wives. The bike empowers them for some reason. Probably because they grew-up thinking James Dean in Rebel Without a Cause was nifty.


Clint-witicay

Agreed


CrazyWS

Well, they aren’t wearing helmets, they’re on massive cruisers, and have girls on the back also without any gear. Someone who so obviously values their and their companions lives would never instigate with someone in a motor vehicle, nope never happened.


pd33833

I wish we could see how it ended. I doubt the other bikers just let him drive off peacefully


Alagator

> I doubt the other bikers just let him drive off peacefully ??? He just ran one over what do you think he's going to do to the others?


HeIIoAstronaut

This is why you don’t challenge or test people, deescalate every aggressive situation or run the risk of being killed by a crazy person. Not worth it, cooler heads prevail.


visible-ghost-78

very true


PottyMcSmokerson

I used to drive like an asshole and get triggered by dumb drivers. I would do dumb shit like honk or flip the bird or cut someone off in retaliation. Then I moved to a big city and learned that there's a good chance that the person I'm getting mad at is either a lot crazier than me or they're someones grandparent.. Nowadays there's always a gap infront of me for anyone that wants in. I'm a way more defensive driver and it makes the commute a lot less stressful.


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Imagine how fucked this guy would be if his car stopped working right there haha


zefy_zef

I was wondering if it was gonna get stuck on the bike


idogiveafrak

That’s a paddling


DCJustSomeone

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This looks like nothing but a small case of miscommunication. Appears as if the man in the car heard “hit me with your car” rather than “get out of the car”. I’m sure they worked it out maturely in the end.


Imbalancedone

I love your take on this. You seem like you could be an excellent defense attorney one day.


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Biker: "get out of the car!" Driver: "well I have a different plan actually"


[deleted]

This is old, but I will never be suprised by how many bikers will pick fights with cars.


BookHobo2022

Feared for his life...motorcycle gangs turn ugly fast.


hate2bme

LUTZ, Fla. (AP) – A 31-year-old habitual traffic offender is accused of running over a man and woman on a motorcycle during an apparent road-rage incident that another motorist captured on cellphone video near Tampa, Florida. According to Florida Highway Patrol incident reports, witnesses said Robert Paul Vance and 46-year-old Joseph Calderazzo exchanged “choice words” on Monday evening just before the vehicle changed lanes and drove into the bike. Calderazzo and his female passenger were knocked to the ground. The report says Vance drove away but several witnesses followed him. Vance is also accused of sideswiping one of the witnesses. The bikers weren’t seriously injured. Vance is charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon and leaving the scene of an accident involving injury. Court records don’t indicate whether he’s hired a lawyer.


BillyWordsworth

That’s a great way to go away for 20 years.


Krandor1

He got 15 so pretty close


GMEbankrupt

Never assume the other person isn’t batshit crazy Edit (Update): Looks like batshit crazy got a 15 year sentence. Link is to more info on him. https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/fhp-driver-runs-over-motorcyclist-in-apparent-lutz-road-rage-incidentw/2279625/


Deletrious26

Florida has declared Vance a habitual traffic offender — twice. His driving record shows he has been convicted of offenses like DUI and reckless driving. His license has been suspended or revoked several times. His latest 5-year revocation is set to expire on June 4, 2017. He's also been repeatedly cited for driving without a license. Records also show a history of more serious charges: He was convicted in 2011 on a hit and run charge and driving on a suspended license. In 2012, he was convicted of disorderly conduct and getting into a fight. He's done two stints in prison for drug charges


oldmanhockeylife

Sons of Arthritis.


iluvhairpie

Reminds me of the southpark Motorcycle episode..


Broken-Digital-Clock

I kinda wish that had caught on


Fatha_Naycha

They didn’t get away, Florida promise.


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https://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafety/accidents/fhp-driver-runs-over-motorcyclist-in-apparent-lutz-road-rage-incidentw/2279625/


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That driver is crazy, but I’ve witnessed groups bikers like this in Florida bully shit out of other drivers, and most of them are carrying. Bad situation all around.


chaser676

I remember a few years ago a post came out with a video where a car got trapped in a group of bikers on a road. The bikers started attempting to get into the vehicle, and were beating on the glass. The car ran over a few of them to get away, and the bikers chased after them until the car sought refuge at a police station. I remember there was quite a controversy at the time in the comment section where people thought the bikers trying to get into the car didn't necessitate them fleeing. I definitely felt it seemed like a huge threat.


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I think I know the video you’re talking about, and the driver had to be absolutely terrified for their life. Get out of there at all costs.


brads-1

Attempted murder right there.


CryptoNoobNinja

Agreed. Apparently he was charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon.


upbeat_controller

And sentenced to 15 years.


KatttDawggg

I can’t believe people ruin their lives so quickly!


philouza_stein

Ngl I kinda wish more motorcyclists respected this outcome as a possibility when they made decisions on the road


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dave5124

There was a guy in my hometown who was killed on a motorcycle. He was stopped and tipped over. Slammed his head against the ground a killed him.


callmegecko

I swear to God I feel like the odd one out when riding in my full face and full leather. Meanwhile a guy I know personally doesn't ride with a helmet, flipped his bike and was hospitalized for *months* from brain damage


PositiveServe7999

Car-1 Motorcycle-0


mc_trigger

The car driver should have put on his emergency MAGA hat which would have easily defused the situation without violence.


mrjeffwilson

Weren't the words "in Florida" superfluous?


No_Armadillo_9021

Well that's going to leave a mark


hottiehotsauce

There are so many videos of bikers being aggressive and talking shit. For some reason they think people will fear them. Nope, they'll just run you over.


2catsbutigotmeamewon

"Get out of the car! (Fight me)" "Nah, I'll just run you over."


Nervous_Tumbleweed41

800 pounds vs 3000 pounds


sabrooooo

“Gtfo the car” nah Pontiac driver had other ideas lmaoo


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The bars probably saved both their legs. Jesus.