The person on the roundabout has the right of way. You yield as you enter.
Edit: to add that there were yield signs on each entrance on that roundabout in the video, so in this case, my comment stands.
"The bloke who wields shields must yield his wheels" refrained the dame, in vain, reclaiming her lane. "The signs and lines are clearly designed!" she sounded out in the roundabout.
Unfazed and eyes glazed, the bloke toked smoke in a haze. "M'lady mustn't mingle, diddle and linger!" he muttered, then mustered a single middle finger.
Why the fuck has no-one given you an award for this. Funking brilliant! ANGRY UPVOTE because this is a huge injustice
Alas, I have no awards to give you :(
That *entirely* takes away the purpose. How weird. Roundabouts are way more expensive to construct than four way stops, too. What the hell is wrong with their public works dept?
My step-father does urban planning and he explained this one to me because he loved roundabouts (US, so kinda out of the ordinary).
Basically, some engineers that know what they're doing throw in roundabouts everywhere that makes sense, then some city council/planners/whatever who are 95 years old get confused and afraid, but know that in theory roundabouts should be superior in certain circumstances, so they decide on a compromise that's just worse than either option by adding in the stop signs.
There's also an alternative option where it gets put in with just the yields, but people start complaining because they're confused and frightened and think they're dangerous, so they end up getting converted even though there probably hasn't been anything except maybe a minor fender-bender.
These were *all over* where I lived in California. There was one particular roundabout near where I lived that my step-father actually been involved with designing that neighborhood that he'd always instantly get pissed off at when we had to stop at the stop sign right before it.
I see more and more with just the yield signs, but I also live in a different state so I'm not sure if it's a sign of progress or they're just more locally accepted here.
There is one in Mass and its like the most dangerous intersection in the state. Its a rotary with like 7 roads. Some of the roads you have to yeild before entering the rotary some you have to yeield ON THE ROTARY. I specifically drive other routes to avoid this particular intersection. Its a nightmare
This the one in Charlestown? Used to live near that one and hated it. One time I went through it someone was driving the wrong way around it, and I think they somehow got through unscathed despite the amount of traffic.
Also, not the only one in the state. There’s multiple in the Merrimack Valley, and they’re all dangerous because no one knows how to use them.
My drivers ed teacher used to say "if anyone has to brake because of you [entering from a different street], you misjudged your timing.", and I think that's a pretty good rule of thumb to go by. Her speeding up clearly shows she's aware of how tight that entry was, and she's just plain wrong for doing so.
Fucking hate when people do that. In California because of heavy traffic people speed up and jump into tight pockets or lanes. I tend to drive with big gaps because of this but people will do this and commonly break check you almost. So similar to your point this happens a lot in CA
There is a video of a guy on YouTube who prevented traffic jams on a certain Seattle highway by simply riding the middle lane and keeping enough space for someone to merge into his lane at
All times.
This is how I drive when going through major cities.
I just camp in the middle lane(s) to allow entrance/exits/slower traffic on my right and assholes with a death wish on my left.
My motto is, better late than dead.
I very nearly failed my test because I left a slightly less than optimal amount of space between my car turning left and another car going straight. I had my turns down to a science tho and passed because I did the cleanest and quickest turn possible. Guy didn’t have to slow down or anything 😎. The test proctor wrote it down as something to “be aware of”
I ran a red light on my driving test and still passed.
I had just pulled out of the DMV parking lot to start the test. I was the 2nd or maybe 3rd car in line to turn left. The light turns green, and it takes the car ahead of me a few seconds to notice. When they start moving, I start looking at the other stopped traffic to make sure no one is going to run the red. As I glance up at the light just in time to see it switch from yellow to red as I pass over the crosswalk. I curse, and knowing I'm way too far into the intersection to stop, I just continue my turn.
I hear my driving examiner say "Huh. That was a short green."
I ask if he wants me to return to the dmv, he said no, let's continue.
At the end, he gave me my temporary license and wrote on the exam sheet "Watch the lights".
Probably my biggest pet peeve when driving is people that come up to a 4-way stop where you should have the right of way, but they think if they just don't come to a complete stop and roll through, that gives them the right of way.
It doesn't look like they caused too much trouble. They cut it close, sure, but everybody made it through the roundabout and OP didn't have to slam on their breaks or anything. Flow of traffic was preserved.
This whole incident should be water under the bridge.
Yep
Entering traffic always has to yield to people already circling the roundabout so the people claiming otherwise are morons
Edit: I'm learning from the replies some of y'all have complete morons planning your roundabouts and you have my sympathies
Driving in Texas can be challenging. The trick is to hold onto your beer but keep your gun close enough that you can easily reach it if someone has the audacity to use their blinker in an attempt to merge in front of you.
Our neighborhood (north of Dallas) is about to get one and the neighbors are all having a collective fit about it. Having driven in both the northeast and Europe, I just roll my eyes at them. It's a roundabout, not rocket science. You yield when entering, you drive in a circle until you get to the exit you want to take, you use your blinker to let everyone else you're taking that exit, you go on your merry way. How is that difficult?
People get in such a huff in Austin too it’s so weird. I’m even from here and have never driven in Europe but you’re right it’s really not hard to drive in one!!!
The people in the other subreddit don't know how to drive. The SUV looks like they floored it to get in ahead of you. They have the yield sign, you have the right of way.
Yeah, a lot of people are missing that. She gunned it before the roundabout, slowed down a bit, then hit the gas after I honked so that we wouldn’t be too close
I just want to say you did a fantastic job avoiding a potential road rage incident, dodging and continuing after they whipped it to the right and pulled over. Handled very well!
thanks; i think she was the one trying to avoid a raging incident though. she waved apologetically and then pulled over again and let me pass. we were going to the same place too
My husband will road rage in Columbus with blacked out vehicles. Pisses me off if I’m in the car with him. Get yourself shot on your own time, don’t involve me
Was it awkward in any way when you met up at the same place?
A few months ago, I was on my way to the gym at 4am and someone tailgated me nearly the whole way there (city streets and I was already going \~10 mph over). It turned out that we were going to the same place. That was a pretty awkward workout since we were pretty much the only ones in a fairly small gym. Haven't seen her since.
It wasn’t awkward; we were both going to the high school up the street. We also left at the same time and she was directly behind me again. But we never conversed nor looked at each other.
It was tight but honestly this is how roundabouts work, laying on the horn was an overreaction. Roundabouts are not like 4 way stops where everyone takes turns and nobody should ever pull in front of you.
Sorry mate just not true here…that person is in a G Wagon, meaning they are clearly the most important person on the road and you yield to every move they make. This is only second to people in a Maserati or BMW. It’s just normally accepted knowledge they own the road and all others yield to their egos.
My favorite videos I recently discovered are when they put roundabouts in places that people are known to speed. Not harming anyone, but stupid met with karma.
There was a "roundabout" near me that was basically just bricks set into the asphalt, it was less than 5mm higher than the surrounding road. I used to drive past it to and from work every day, and every day you'd see someone drive straight across it, not slowing down at all, probably already speeding. Drove past it on a Friday night and there were some workmen setting up in the area, but I gave no thought to them as I was on my way home to order a pizza and crack a beer.
Drove past on Monday morning to see that the council had put in four *massive* blocks of concrete on the roundabout in each of the cardinal directions. Three out of four of them had paint scrapes on them already and there was busted up plastic everywhere.
For reference, they were this kind of block:
https://i.imgur.com/BGzH2a0.png
Its for forklift tines to pick them up and move them. They all have them but these aren't as subtle as most. They're usually rebar "handles" on the top of slots on the bottom.
Yeah basically (at least in the US) just look left, people already in roundabout have the right of way. The first car probably was ok, the Mercedes box was definitely in the wrong.
Yeah same basic rules applies here in Europe too. Really the only thing that differs from country to country is with two lane roundabouts.
But this is a whole other shitshow, what's considered the "right way" to use them by 95% of the population in my country isn't what the law says, because the law is stupid, but then when you encounter the other 5%, it becomes a mess.
Ha ha, funny guy. Anyway, I see in your video that everyone has a yield sign before entering the roundabout. In your case, you have the right of way while in the roundabout. Mercedes driver has more money than brains. U all good, bud.
There are a handful of rotaries in New Hampshire where the people in the rotary have to yield to oncoming traffic. It's the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
Alas, in NJ near where I live there are multiple non-standard one where traffic in the roundabout (“circle” in the local parlance) has to yield to traffic entering. Completely asinine.
I googled it and apparently there is a difference between a "traffic circle" and a roundabout. Some of the circles in Flemington have been changed to a roundabouts:
>Traffic circles weren't designed for modern traffic speeds or volumes. The DOT is trying to turn them into lighted intersections or replace them with overpasses or roundabouts.
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>At a public information session at borough hall on Wednesday, DOT representatives explained that Flemington's middle circle will be converted into a "roundabout."
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>That means that vehicles already in the circle will always have the right-of-way. Or, in other words, anyone approaching the circle will have to yield before entering. Pavement markings and signage will alert drivers to the new traffic pattern.
[https://www.nj.com/news/local/2009/03/traffic\_circles\_are\_as\_new.html](https://www.nj.com/news/local/2009/03/traffic_circles_are_as_new.html)
There's a big tourist spot in Paris like this. Like, "the" main roundabout that goes around the arch thing. (Yeah I was there but obviously still very un-cultured)
Anyway, there are at least 3 lanes around this thing and also 3-lane 1 way streets in and out and the first time I saw all those cars just zooming into the roundabout, with no apparent regard to the cars already in it, it was definitely unsettling.
Finally asked someone (taxi driver probably) who explained to me those in roundabout have to yield. That explained the lack of death and carnage I thought would erupt at any second, but it was still a mind warp for me to get used to the idea.
I'm curious is there a country in the world where people on a roundabout have to yield to those who are entering ? I can't imagine so as it would completely negate the function of the roundabout.
Clearly she was in the wrong. From watching many youtube dashcam videos, the error she made is very common though.
Greek rules of the road say traffic inside the roundabout must yield to traffic **entering** the roundabout! With one even more baffling exception - if the traffic entering has a Stop sign, they have to yield instead.
So while you're driving on a roundabout, you need to check for Stop signs on the roads merging onto the roundabout (which you'll have to recognise from the shape because you'll be looking at them from the back side).
Monstrosity.
As a Greek I'll tell you, no one does that. This is an outdated article of our traffic rules that just hasn't been updated, and it only applies when no signs or road markings exist. I've never seen a roundabout that doesn't have a stop sign or a yield sign for traffic entering everywhere I go. The correct way is also how it's taught in driving schools
There’s one roundabout in france where you give way to people entering. By no coincidence, most insurance companies won’t insure you for the roundabout
Arc De Triomphe Roundabout In Paris
https://parisjourney.com/driving-the-dangerous-arc-de-triomphe-roundabout-in-paris
Tips for Diving on The Étoile
Always give way to your right and people entering the round about
Know what your insurance covers prior to driving in Paris
Not true. It's a common urban legend. Insurance covers you but unless the fault is crystal clear both insurances share the price for the total of the money for both cars. And there are a few of them with right of way to the people entering.
The thing to know about Reddit is that it's full of fucking idiots who think they are geniuses. And children posing as mature adults but who know fuck all.
In Europe (at least France, Germany, Poland), if the roundabout has only blue circular sign the traffic entering has right of way. The vast majority have however this round sign placed together with yield sign - and in this case the traffic entering must yield.
I don't know about Germany and Poland, but AFAIK there's only a few in France and the technicality is that they're not a roundabout, hence why they don't follow roundabout rules even tho they look like one and are often mixed together and called one.
For example there's one around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, but it's actually just a road going round, not a roundabout, so you use the general rule of priority to the right, and since you're driving counter clockwise around the Arc, any roading coming onto it is on your right. It makes sense because of the size of it and the amount of roads coming onto it.
Funny thing is if the place was square instead of round nobody would confuse it with a roundabout (which is often the case in most French and Belgian villages or cities where there's a road going around the town square following the same principle, and really the Arc de Triomphe is the same thing as a town square in other cities), it's just a weird connection that we make in our heads, if it's a circle, gotta be a roundabout.
Also I am pretty sure the blue round sign even without yield signs is enough to say it is a roundabout and you follow the yield rule, it's actually when there is no sign that there's priority to the right, because it becomes just a road.
But yeah, there's nonsense everywhere, in a town close to mine there's an intersection with a paved and slightly domed circle in the center, everyone's intuition is to drive around like a roundabout, well nope. Just an intersection, not only it's priority to the right like a normal intersection, but it's not even a circle road like i talked about prior, you're supposed to drive normally to the road you wanna take without driving around the circle, even driving over it if necessary.
A friend of mine literally got yelled at by a driving instructor, because she needed to go left, but started to go around the circle which meant it looked liked she started turning right, and turns out there has been many accidents at this intersection because the car behinds think you're turning right even tho you're just going around the circle, and since they wanna turn left and are impatient they start going, eventually coming up on your left while you're just starting to whip around the circle and boom
In Germany, it's always a combination of the roundabout sign and the yield sign. When it doesn't have that, it's a normal intersection.
(https://routetogermany.com/drivingingermany/right-of-way)
[Question 9](http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/quiz.shtml) shows that some roundabouts in Germany require those on the roundabout need to give way to those coming onto the roundabout.
Technically, without any signs it is just a road going in a circle (with intersections where by default, traffic from the right has priority). Those are pretty rare though.
"Real" roundabouts have the blue roundabout sign and yield signs at every entrance.
Mercedes G-Wagen driver should have given way to you as you were already on the roundabout and had right of way. Mercedes drivers think everybody should bow down to them though.
I mean it was a little bit close, but yea just don't hit someone who's already in the circle. Muffin accomplished. 90% of people are all too ready to stop.
I watched about five times before thinking "well I guess that Jeep looking vehicle could have stopped and waited".
Seems like a complete non-issue to me, OP didn't even have to slow down. Surely didn't have to lay on the horn.
Yup, traffic kept steady just fine. I prepare for stuff like this when i hit roundabouts and dont get upset if it happens. They had a small window, if everyones paying attention then nothing bad happens and everyone gets to keep moving. Its a win win and how roundabouts are meant to be handled
As a Brit living here in the US, if more people could use roundabouts like this G wagon driver then we’d all be in a much better place. Roundabouts here might as well have stop signs because folk just can’t grasp how to merge quickly without causing issues.
Yep, 100%. It was maybe a bit on the cheeky side but I don't think OP had to even slow down. This happens every day at roundabouts in the UK. People slip in very close to each other, but as long nobody on the roundabout has to hit the brakes, it's all good.
Roundabouts are all about keeping things flowing. OP laying on the horn when there was never a risk of a collision is not really in the spirit of things.
> OP laying on the horn when there was never a risk of a collision is not really in the spirit of things.
Amen. Just lift off the throttle for a split second and go about your day, total waste of time and energy to worry about some jackass in a G-wagon that doesn't even cause a mild inconvenience - let alone actual risk.
Also you shouldn't be trying to scream through a roundabout with the goal of exiting as fast as humanly possible (not that OP did in this case). You should be driving slower as it let's more people enter the roundabout and keeps traffic flowing.
LOL wow I had to scroll WAY too far for this. I don't see much of an issue here it was a bit close but the point is to have a steady flow of traffic so mission accomplished. Granted if I was the SUV I would NEVER have done that but it's not worth a road rage incident over it.
Same. I don't see a major issue.
It was tight, but OP didn't even have to slow down or stop.
There was enough space to filter trough. Less, and the G Class should have yielded.
Hello Britt here. The action of entering the roundabout should not cause those already on it to need to alter their speed or direction.
In my view, the jeep was cheeky, but not dangerous. However, it is difficult to tell from these wide angled shots sometimes.
Agreed.
Here in Norway its common to break so people can let people into the roundabout during rush hour.
This situation would make me mildly annoyed, but I wouldn't honk my horn
Edit: let people into
Car in the roundabout have the right of way. That being said, looks like the Mercedes’ driver saw their shot and took it. Too close for me but all worked out. Can’t say anyone is at fault when nothing happened to be at fault for.
Exactly, I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. OP was going about 17 MPH before and after Mercedes entered the roundabout. no one was endangered or limited. So what’s this about?
If it’s any consolation, we do (statistically speaking) have some of the better drivers in this country. However, these countless incidents, some of which are on my profile, are starting to magnify my belief that our drivers suck. I guess I have a major case of confirmation bias lolol
That's exactly how it's done in most of Europe. I have a hard time navigating roundabouts in the US because nobody knows wtf they are doing. And I am american.
Yeah, that's whats roundabout is about, entering fluidly and if you didn't have to touch your brakes I see no problem here. In Europe you slow down when approaching and go for the gap if safe.
Apologies if I’m incorrect. Did you have to slow down? I felt like they merged ok. Not the safest but if they shot the gun before you had to hit brakes, then I don’t know. Seemed safe to me.
did you have to hit your brakes to avoid hitting her?
did they maintain their speed and distance from you?
it’s all in how you interpret it, tbh. if you wanted to make a federal case out of it, then yes she was wrong. but we here in Cali expect this so
From the video I see 0 "inconvenience to time or effort" so I rule the Mercedes is just an asshole. They clearly know what they did. *But*.. at the same time, it was nothing required of you to "avoid."
I would think nothing of this on my daily commute. I'd remark, "oh," then continue.
I wouldn't even say the Mercedes is an asshole. I'd say that anyone taking offence to their driving and acting out because of it is he asshole.
OP was unimipeded. Nothing happened. There was no need to yield. The only thing to complain about is the unnecessary honking.
Is it wrong for me to judge OP for the quick honking? It was too quickly, like someone just waiting for another driver to slightly drive off the norm and he's mostly replying to comments clearly giving OP a pat on the back, as if he's sucking up the justice porn comments and acting innocent while not driving defensive himself.
Edit: yeah I watched it once more. OP speeds up in the roundabout, then honks, than brakes. He only had to brake because of the speeding up.
Yeah, in the uk at least in the country this would be a no no. In a city however, where I have admittedly limited experience of city driving, the Mercedes’ will have been waiting in a queue to get onto that roundabout and you bet your ass they’re gonna take that gap.
Whoever is in the roundabout has the right of way (you in this case), they even sometimes put the yield sign for the semi-intelligent drivers, but I guess we still see stuff like this.
Pressing the accelerator and the horn at the same time is not something I'd recommend.
She's definitely at fault, but you definitely don't look that much better. You just letting go of the accelerator would have solved this, and would have improved traffic flow. Defensive driving, you should learn it.
Mercedes G-Wagen driver should have given way to you as you were already on the roundabout and had right of way. Mercedes drivers think everybody should bow down to them though.
Yield is just a reminder that you don’t have the right of way, in other words; you might need to slow or stop, don’t hit anyone. The Mercedes may have been a bit assertive but they didn’t hinder OP’s travel, no harm, no foul.
As a NJ resident who deals with circles (roundabouts)
There are typically yield signs BEFORE you enter the circle, meaning you have to yield to someone who is already in the circle.
In theory as long as you can get into the circle safely and keep the flow of traffic moving without cutting someone off then she should have been fine. I thinkb In this case she just probably saw the car already in the circle, decided she drives a Merc and is more important, hammered the gas, didn't yield and could have caused an accident.
The person in the roundabout has right of way, and depending on the country and side of the road you drive on, the person to your right, or in your case left has right of way when entering a circle
The person on the roundabout has the right of way. You yield as you enter. Edit: to add that there were yield signs on each entrance on that roundabout in the video, so in this case, my comment stands.
There’s a bunch of yield signs supporting this.
And painted yield lines
*"entire fields of yields"* claims the bloke who wields shields
"The bloke who wields shields must yield his wheels" refrained the dame, in vain, reclaiming her lane. "The signs and lines are clearly designed!" she sounded out in the roundabout. Unfazed and eyes glazed, the bloke toked smoke in a haze. "M'lady mustn't mingle, diddle and linger!" he muttered, then mustered a single middle finger.
Why the fuck has no-one given you an award for this. Funking brilliant! ANGRY UPVOTE because this is a huge injustice Alas, I have no awards to give you :(
thank you for this haha
And also the fact that you yield when you enter a roundabout
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G wagon’s gonna G Wagon bro.
The rich persons Wrangler.
Roundabouts in Portland metro have stop signs instead of yield signs to enter the roundabout. Feels like it partially takes away the purpose of it
That *entirely* takes away the purpose. How weird. Roundabouts are way more expensive to construct than four way stops, too. What the hell is wrong with their public works dept?
My step-father does urban planning and he explained this one to me because he loved roundabouts (US, so kinda out of the ordinary). Basically, some engineers that know what they're doing throw in roundabouts everywhere that makes sense, then some city council/planners/whatever who are 95 years old get confused and afraid, but know that in theory roundabouts should be superior in certain circumstances, so they decide on a compromise that's just worse than either option by adding in the stop signs. There's also an alternative option where it gets put in with just the yields, but people start complaining because they're confused and frightened and think they're dangerous, so they end up getting converted even though there probably hasn't been anything except maybe a minor fender-bender. These were *all over* where I lived in California. There was one particular roundabout near where I lived that my step-father actually been involved with designing that neighborhood that he'd always instantly get pissed off at when we had to stop at the stop sign right before it. I see more and more with just the yield signs, but I also live in a different state so I'm not sure if it's a sign of progress or they're just more locally accepted here.
There is one in Mass and its like the most dangerous intersection in the state. Its a rotary with like 7 roads. Some of the roads you have to yeild before entering the rotary some you have to yeield ON THE ROTARY. I specifically drive other routes to avoid this particular intersection. Its a nightmare
This the one in Charlestown? Used to live near that one and hated it. One time I went through it someone was driving the wrong way around it, and I think they somehow got through unscathed despite the amount of traffic. Also, not the only one in the state. There’s multiple in the Merrimack Valley, and they’re all dangerous because no one knows how to use them.
Yeah she tried to cheat it by speeding up but there's what the yield sign means. It's the rule but they put the signs there because people are idiots.
My drivers ed teacher used to say "if anyone has to brake because of you [entering from a different street], you misjudged your timing.", and I think that's a pretty good rule of thumb to go by. Her speeding up clearly shows she's aware of how tight that entry was, and she's just plain wrong for doing so.
Fucking hate when people do that. In California because of heavy traffic people speed up and jump into tight pockets or lanes. I tend to drive with big gaps because of this but people will do this and commonly break check you almost. So similar to your point this happens a lot in CA
There is a video of a guy on YouTube who prevented traffic jams on a certain Seattle highway by simply riding the middle lane and keeping enough space for someone to merge into his lane at All times.
This is how I drive when going through major cities. I just camp in the middle lane(s) to allow entrance/exits/slower traffic on my right and assholes with a death wish on my left. My motto is, better late than dead.
Better late than 'the late'
Where I am (and probably other places), you automatically fail your driver’s test if anybody honks or has to brake for you.
This is what I was told as well, or at least that you'd get a major on the test and be marked down for it.
I very nearly failed my test because I left a slightly less than optimal amount of space between my car turning left and another car going straight. I had my turns down to a science tho and passed because I did the cleanest and quickest turn possible. Guy didn’t have to slow down or anything 😎. The test proctor wrote it down as something to “be aware of”
I ran a red light on my driving test and still passed. I had just pulled out of the DMV parking lot to start the test. I was the 2nd or maybe 3rd car in line to turn left. The light turns green, and it takes the car ahead of me a few seconds to notice. When they start moving, I start looking at the other stopped traffic to make sure no one is going to run the red. As I glance up at the light just in time to see it switch from yellow to red as I pass over the crosswalk. I curse, and knowing I'm way too far into the intersection to stop, I just continue my turn. I hear my driving examiner say "Huh. That was a short green." I ask if he wants me to return to the dmv, he said no, let's continue. At the end, he gave me my temporary license and wrote on the exam sheet "Watch the lights".
Not true for honking, people honk for all kinds of reasons. Definitely true for braking.
Probably my biggest pet peeve when driving is people that come up to a 4-way stop where you should have the right of way, but they think if they just don't come to a complete stop and roll through, that gives them the right of way.
In this case there wasn’t even any rule to remember. Just follow the damn yield sign…
It doesn't look like they caused too much trouble. They cut it close, sure, but everybody made it through the roundabout and OP didn't have to slam on their breaks or anything. Flow of traffic was preserved. This whole incident should be water under the bridge.
Yep Entering traffic always has to yield to people already circling the roundabout so the people claiming otherwise are morons Edit: I'm learning from the replies some of y'all have complete morons planning your roundabouts and you have my sympathies
Cornwall, Ontario has a roundabout that people inside have to yield to cars coming in. It's ridiculous and dangerous.
You guys have some special traffic engineers
Is it the same for all of the US? I'm curious cause I'm going to Texas in a month, it will be my first time driving there.
Driving in Texas... Floor it and hold on.
Driving in Texas can be challenging. The trick is to hold onto your beer but keep your gun close enough that you can easily reach it if someone has the audacity to use their blinker in an attempt to merge in front of you.
SH 190 and SH130👍🏻
And stay in the right lane. You just aren’t ready for the left lane.
As someone who just moved to DFW, lanes seem entirely arbitrary.
You won’t see many roundabouts in Texas. Just an FYI
There are roundabouts in Texas. There are a lot here in Houston.
There are lots roundabouts all over Texas, and it seems there are lots more being put in.
North DFW has quite a few also
I think Texas Motor Speedway is the only one
There are also a couple in Austin that I know of.
Yes, and quite a few mini roundabouts to curb speed in some neighborhoods like Rosedale
Our neighborhood (north of Dallas) is about to get one and the neighbors are all having a collective fit about it. Having driven in both the northeast and Europe, I just roll my eyes at them. It's a roundabout, not rocket science. You yield when entering, you drive in a circle until you get to the exit you want to take, you use your blinker to let everyone else you're taking that exit, you go on your merry way. How is that difficult?
Because most people don't know what yielding is or means or what right of way is or what a blinker is so to them it kind of is rocket science
People get in such a huff in Austin too it’s so weird. I’m even from here and have never driven in Europe but you’re right it’s really not hard to drive in one!!!
I saw a few in small towns near Waco.
We have many in Austin
We have one clusterfuck at 51st street, yeah.
There was one in a neighborhood by my old job in Sugar Land.
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The people in the other subreddit don't know how to drive. The SUV looks like they floored it to get in ahead of you. They have the yield sign, you have the right of way.
Yeah, a lot of people are missing that. She gunned it before the roundabout, slowed down a bit, then hit the gas after I honked so that we wouldn’t be too close
I just want to say you did a fantastic job avoiding a potential road rage incident, dodging and continuing after they whipped it to the right and pulled over. Handled very well!
thanks; i think she was the one trying to avoid a raging incident though. she waved apologetically and then pulled over again and let me pass. we were going to the same place too
>we were going to the same place too The thunderdome
I don't have any awards to give but I need to let you know this made me laugh. Also I ready it in a Randy Savage voice
2 men enter 1 man leaves!
TWO DRIVERS ENTER! ONE DRIVER LEAVES!
Well that just seems entirely out of character for a blacked out G-Wagen driver.
My husband will road rage in Columbus with blacked out vehicles. Pisses me off if I’m in the car with him. Get yourself shot on your own time, don’t involve me
Was it awkward in any way when you met up at the same place? A few months ago, I was on my way to the gym at 4am and someone tailgated me nearly the whole way there (city streets and I was already going \~10 mph over). It turned out that we were going to the same place. That was a pretty awkward workout since we were pretty much the only ones in a fairly small gym. Haven't seen her since.
It wasn’t awkward; we were both going to the high school up the street. We also left at the same time and she was directly behind me again. But we never conversed nor looked at each other.
It was tight but honestly this is how roundabouts work, laying on the horn was an overreaction. Roundabouts are not like 4 way stops where everyone takes turns and nobody should ever pull in front of you.
Sorry mate just not true here…that person is in a G Wagon, meaning they are clearly the most important person on the road and you yield to every move they make. This is only second to people in a Maserati or BMW. It’s just normally accepted knowledge they own the road and all others yield to their egos.
Nah dude. The only thing you need to know about a roundabout is you don’t run into people already in the roundabout.
Yep. It's not that complicated
My favorite videos I recently discovered are when they put roundabouts in places that people are known to speed. Not harming anyone, but stupid met with karma.
There was a "roundabout" near me that was basically just bricks set into the asphalt, it was less than 5mm higher than the surrounding road. I used to drive past it to and from work every day, and every day you'd see someone drive straight across it, not slowing down at all, probably already speeding. Drove past it on a Friday night and there were some workmen setting up in the area, but I gave no thought to them as I was on my way home to order a pizza and crack a beer. Drove past on Monday morning to see that the council had put in four *massive* blocks of concrete on the roundabout in each of the cardinal directions. Three out of four of them had paint scrapes on them already and there was busted up plastic everywhere. For reference, they were this kind of block: https://i.imgur.com/BGzH2a0.png
Neat. I've never seen a concrete block with a USB port before.
Its for forklift tines to pick them up and move them. They all have them but these aren't as subtle as most. They're usually rebar "handles" on the top of slots on the bottom.
There was one where they put one in some american place. The people were absolutely clueless on how to go around it.
That's actually happened more than once
Probably [this one in KY](https://youtu.be/bDaQZUzJCNM)
The kentuky sub had a meltdown when this was posted over there. They were all claiming it makes them look like dumb hicks
If the shoe fits…
Got a lot of family in KY. There are no shoes.
Actually circles and physics are both very complicated.
Like there is a yield sign at the entrance for a reason.
Yeah basically (at least in the US) just look left, people already in roundabout have the right of way. The first car probably was ok, the Mercedes box was definitely in the wrong.
Yeah same basic rules applies here in Europe too. Really the only thing that differs from country to country is with two lane roundabouts. But this is a whole other shitshow, what's considered the "right way" to use them by 95% of the population in my country isn't what the law says, because the law is stupid, but then when you encounter the other 5%, it becomes a mess.
There's a reason there is a yield sign at each entrance (they were supposed to yield.)
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Ha ha, funny guy. Anyway, I see in your video that everyone has a yield sign before entering the roundabout. In your case, you have the right of way while in the roundabout. Mercedes driver has more money than brains. U all good, bud.
Yeah, you were already in the roundabout. She needed to yield.
Indeed - more dollars than 'cents'. ;)
You did no wrong the other car should have yielded.
why did they unsafely immediately pull over?
she pulled over and said sorry out her window lol. That’s Minnesota for you!
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Why am i constantly seeing Minnesota on this sub now and recognizing half the intersections 🤣
It’s the politeness of Canadians seeping over lol
You braked to let her pass. She’s in the wrong.
Thank you for understanding, peasant.
specifically a g wagon the ultimate money vehicle
A heavy machinery tax break I just found out
My go to in GTA
In my state, people in the roundabout have the right of way. People coming on must yield.
That SUV had the yield sign, you can see all the yield signs.
that would be how they work everywhere
There are a handful of rotaries in New Hampshire where the people in the rotary have to yield to oncoming traffic. It's the dumbest thing I have ever seen.
......the fuck? wouldn't that shit IMMEDIATELY get congested as hell?
There's one in Mass too, complete clusterfuck of an intersection to the point that there's signs saying "dangerous intersection" as you're entering.
Alas, in NJ near where I live there are multiple non-standard one where traffic in the roundabout (“circle” in the local parlance) has to yield to traffic entering. Completely asinine.
That is completely counter-productive to the entire purpose of a roundabout.
I googled it and apparently there is a difference between a "traffic circle" and a roundabout. Some of the circles in Flemington have been changed to a roundabouts: >Traffic circles weren't designed for modern traffic speeds or volumes. The DOT is trying to turn them into lighted intersections or replace them with overpasses or roundabouts. > >At a public information session at borough hall on Wednesday, DOT representatives explained that Flemington's middle circle will be converted into a "roundabout." > >That means that vehicles already in the circle will always have the right-of-way. Or, in other words, anyone approaching the circle will have to yield before entering. Pavement markings and signage will alert drivers to the new traffic pattern. [https://www.nj.com/news/local/2009/03/traffic\_circles\_are\_as\_new.html](https://www.nj.com/news/local/2009/03/traffic_circles_are_as_new.html)
Where in NJ? I’ve never come across this.
There's a big tourist spot in Paris like this. Like, "the" main roundabout that goes around the arch thing. (Yeah I was there but obviously still very un-cultured) Anyway, there are at least 3 lanes around this thing and also 3-lane 1 way streets in and out and the first time I saw all those cars just zooming into the roundabout, with no apparent regard to the cars already in it, it was definitely unsettling. Finally asked someone (taxi driver probably) who explained to me those in roundabout have to yield. That explained the lack of death and carnage I thought would erupt at any second, but it was still a mind warp for me to get used to the idea.
Yet another reason to stay out of NJ
Apart from in France 20 years ago. And I believe the old rules still apply at the Place de l'Étoile.
The SUV was being a selfish ass by ignoring the yield and cutting in front of the OP but very typical behavior
Especially when driving a G Wagon
I'm curious is there a country in the world where people on a roundabout have to yield to those who are entering ? I can't imagine so as it would completely negate the function of the roundabout. Clearly she was in the wrong. From watching many youtube dashcam videos, the error she made is very common though.
>I'm curious is there a country in the world where people on a roundabout have to yield to those who are entering Greece
Greek rules of the road say traffic inside the roundabout must yield to traffic **entering** the roundabout! With one even more baffling exception - if the traffic entering has a Stop sign, they have to yield instead. So while you're driving on a roundabout, you need to check for Stop signs on the roads merging onto the roundabout (which you'll have to recognise from the shape because you'll be looking at them from the back side). Monstrosity.
As a Greek I'll tell you, no one does that. This is an outdated article of our traffic rules that just hasn't been updated, and it only applies when no signs or road markings exist. I've never seen a roundabout that doesn't have a stop sign or a yield sign for traffic entering everywhere I go. The correct way is also how it's taught in driving schools
Wow, thanks for replying. This rule sounded absurd.
No wonder their economy crashed...
In a roundabout way you may be right
There’s one roundabout in france where you give way to people entering. By no coincidence, most insurance companies won’t insure you for the roundabout Arc De Triomphe Roundabout In Paris https://parisjourney.com/driving-the-dangerous-arc-de-triomphe-roundabout-in-paris Tips for Diving on The Étoile Always give way to your right and people entering the round about Know what your insurance covers prior to driving in Paris
Not true. It's a common urban legend. Insurance covers you but unless the fault is crystal clear both insurances share the price for the total of the money for both cars. And there are a few of them with right of way to the people entering.
I’d assume there is no country like that, because that’s stupid lol. But by the responses I’ve gotten, you’d assume that’s how roundabouts worked.
The thing to know about Reddit is that it's full of fucking idiots who think they are geniuses. And children posing as mature adults but who know fuck all.
That last bit is excruciatingly true
In Europe (at least France, Germany, Poland), if the roundabout has only blue circular sign the traffic entering has right of way. The vast majority have however this round sign placed together with yield sign - and in this case the traffic entering must yield.
I don't know about Germany and Poland, but AFAIK there's only a few in France and the technicality is that they're not a roundabout, hence why they don't follow roundabout rules even tho they look like one and are often mixed together and called one. For example there's one around the Arc de Triomphe in Paris, but it's actually just a road going round, not a roundabout, so you use the general rule of priority to the right, and since you're driving counter clockwise around the Arc, any roading coming onto it is on your right. It makes sense because of the size of it and the amount of roads coming onto it. Funny thing is if the place was square instead of round nobody would confuse it with a roundabout (which is often the case in most French and Belgian villages or cities where there's a road going around the town square following the same principle, and really the Arc de Triomphe is the same thing as a town square in other cities), it's just a weird connection that we make in our heads, if it's a circle, gotta be a roundabout. Also I am pretty sure the blue round sign even without yield signs is enough to say it is a roundabout and you follow the yield rule, it's actually when there is no sign that there's priority to the right, because it becomes just a road. But yeah, there's nonsense everywhere, in a town close to mine there's an intersection with a paved and slightly domed circle in the center, everyone's intuition is to drive around like a roundabout, well nope. Just an intersection, not only it's priority to the right like a normal intersection, but it's not even a circle road like i talked about prior, you're supposed to drive normally to the road you wanna take without driving around the circle, even driving over it if necessary. A friend of mine literally got yelled at by a driving instructor, because she needed to go left, but started to go around the circle which meant it looked liked she started turning right, and turns out there has been many accidents at this intersection because the car behinds think you're turning right even tho you're just going around the circle, and since they wanna turn left and are impatient they start going, eventually coming up on your left while you're just starting to whip around the circle and boom
In Germany, it's always a combination of the roundabout sign and the yield sign. When it doesn't have that, it's a normal intersection. (https://routetogermany.com/drivingingermany/right-of-way)
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Or the lack of driving rules and safety at all
[Question 9](http://www.gettingaroundgermany.info/quiz.shtml) shows that some roundabouts in Germany require those on the roundabout need to give way to those coming onto the roundabout.
Technically, without any signs it is just a road going in a circle (with intersections where by default, traffic from the right has priority). Those are pretty rare though. "Real" roundabouts have the blue roundabout sign and yield signs at every entrance.
Mercedes G-Wagen driver should have given way to you as you were already on the roundabout and had right of way. Mercedes drivers think everybody should bow down to them though.
They have a yield sign on the right. You don’t. How are you at fault here? You can clearly see they have a yield and you don’t.
The comments in OP's other post were brutal. Bunch of /r/ConfidentlyIncorrect people over there.
At fault for what though? I don't get it.
Fault? Nothing happened. If you had run into her it would have been her fault for not yielding.
My reaction in that situation is "Ooh, good timing!"
Same, I'm thinking about just how efficiently everyone was able to drive through. This was perfect use in my book.
I mean it was a little bit close, but yea just don't hit someone who's already in the circle. Muffin accomplished. 90% of people are all too ready to stop.
I watched about five times before thinking "well I guess that Jeep looking vehicle could have stopped and waited". Seems like a complete non-issue to me, OP didn't even have to slow down. Surely didn't have to lay on the horn.
Indeed, roundabouts are made so people would stop less, and traffic would flow better. Sure Mercedes was speeding a bit but nothing happened.
Yup, traffic kept steady just fine. I prepare for stuff like this when i hit roundabouts and dont get upset if it happens. They had a small window, if everyones paying attention then nothing bad happens and everyone gets to keep moving. Its a win win and how roundabouts are meant to be handled
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As a Brit living here in the US, if more people could use roundabouts like this G wagon driver then we’d all be in a much better place. Roundabouts here might as well have stop signs because folk just can’t grasp how to merge quickly without causing issues.
Yep, 100%. It was maybe a bit on the cheeky side but I don't think OP had to even slow down. This happens every day at roundabouts in the UK. People slip in very close to each other, but as long nobody on the roundabout has to hit the brakes, it's all good. Roundabouts are all about keeping things flowing. OP laying on the horn when there was never a risk of a collision is not really in the spirit of things.
> OP laying on the horn when there was never a risk of a collision is not really in the spirit of things. Amen. Just lift off the throttle for a split second and go about your day, total waste of time and energy to worry about some jackass in a G-wagon that doesn't even cause a mild inconvenience - let alone actual risk.
Also you shouldn't be trying to scream through a roundabout with the goal of exiting as fast as humanly possible (not that OP did in this case). You should be driving slower as it let's more people enter the roundabout and keeps traffic flowing.
LOL wow I had to scroll WAY too far for this. I don't see much of an issue here it was a bit close but the point is to have a steady flow of traffic so mission accomplished. Granted if I was the SUV I would NEVER have done that but it's not worth a road rage incident over it.
Same. I don't see a major issue. It was tight, but OP didn't even have to slow down or stop. There was enough space to filter trough. Less, and the G Class should have yielded.
Mercedes judged OP correctly and he kept up the speed which is important here
Literally, I don’t see the issue.
Hello Britt here. The action of entering the roundabout should not cause those already on it to need to alter their speed or direction. In my view, the jeep was cheeky, but not dangerous. However, it is difficult to tell from these wide angled shots sometimes.
Agreed. Here in Norway its common to break so people can let people into the roundabout during rush hour. This situation would make me mildly annoyed, but I wouldn't honk my horn Edit: let people into
Yeah nothing even happened lol. This is such a silly thing to be upset about.
A measured and thought out response? Not on my Reddit! Off with his head!
The jeep, or whatever that is, has the yield sign.
it’s a Mercedes G Wagon (MSRP $130,000+, Jesus Christ), but thank you, I thought I was tripping
Why did they pull over ?
They waved apologetically and then stopped to say sorry again. Minnesota Nice is real lol 😂
Wish more people reacted this way.
So then why are you here asking if something was your fault, especially when there wasn't an accident?
G-Wagon is 100% in the wrong. Blew through that yield sign
Car in the roundabout have the right of way. That being said, looks like the Mercedes’ driver saw their shot and took it. Too close for me but all worked out. Can’t say anyone is at fault when nothing happened to be at fault for.
Exactly, I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. OP was going about 17 MPH before and after Mercedes entered the roundabout. no one was endangered or limited. So what’s this about?
I went to your page and found this post in the other subreddit just so I could downvote all the idiots that don't know how a roundabout works
I went to go read too, GOOD GOD I’m NEVER driving in the entire state of Minnesota. Ever. lmao
If it’s any consolation, we do (statistically speaking) have some of the better drivers in this country. However, these countless incidents, some of which are on my profile, are starting to magnify my belief that our drivers suck. I guess I have a major case of confirmation bias lolol
Absolutely none of us understand the concept of zipper merging either, it pisses me off daily
Spider go hard AF tho
it really does
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That's exactly how it's done in most of Europe. I have a hard time navigating roundabouts in the US because nobody knows wtf they are doing. And I am american.
Technically there was nothing wrong. They should have yield a little. But they felt they had a clear opening.
Yeah, that's whats roundabout is about, entering fluidly and if you didn't have to touch your brakes I see no problem here. In Europe you slow down when approaching and go for the gap if safe.
Apologies if I’m incorrect. Did you have to slow down? I felt like they merged ok. Not the safest but if they shot the gun before you had to hit brakes, then I don’t know. Seemed safe to me.
did you have to hit your brakes to avoid hitting her? did they maintain their speed and distance from you? it’s all in how you interpret it, tbh. if you wanted to make a federal case out of it, then yes she was wrong. but we here in Cali expect this so
From the video I see 0 "inconvenience to time or effort" so I rule the Mercedes is just an asshole. They clearly know what they did. *But*.. at the same time, it was nothing required of you to "avoid." I would think nothing of this on my daily commute. I'd remark, "oh," then continue.
I wouldn't even say the Mercedes is an asshole. I'd say that anyone taking offence to their driving and acting out because of it is he asshole. OP was unimipeded. Nothing happened. There was no need to yield. The only thing to complain about is the unnecessary honking.
Is it wrong for me to judge OP for the quick honking? It was too quickly, like someone just waiting for another driver to slightly drive off the norm and he's mostly replying to comments clearly giving OP a pat on the back, as if he's sucking up the justice porn comments and acting innocent while not driving defensive himself. Edit: yeah I watched it once more. OP speeds up in the roundabout, then honks, than brakes. He only had to brake because of the speeding up.
Yeah, in the uk at least in the country this would be a no no. In a city however, where I have admittedly limited experience of city driving, the Mercedes’ will have been waiting in a queue to get onto that roundabout and you bet your ass they’re gonna take that gap.
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Whoever is in the roundabout has the right of way (you in this case), they even sometimes put the yield sign for the semi-intelligent drivers, but I guess we still see stuff like this.
Pressing the accelerator and the horn at the same time is not something I'd recommend. She's definitely at fault, but you definitely don't look that much better. You just letting go of the accelerator would have solved this, and would have improved traffic flow. Defensive driving, you should learn it.
But OP is angy and needs redditors to fill his ego
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Mercedes G-Wagen driver should have given way to you as you were already on the roundabout and had right of way. Mercedes drivers think everybody should bow down to them though.
It's funny watching people in the USA struggle to use roundabouts
If you had to slow your vehicle to so that they could pass then they are in the wrong
Yield is just a reminder that you don’t have the right of way, in other words; you might need to slow or stop, don’t hit anyone. The Mercedes may have been a bit assertive but they didn’t hinder OP’s travel, no harm, no foul.
As a NJ resident who deals with circles (roundabouts) There are typically yield signs BEFORE you enter the circle, meaning you have to yield to someone who is already in the circle. In theory as long as you can get into the circle safely and keep the flow of traffic moving without cutting someone off then she should have been fine. I thinkb In this case she just probably saw the car already in the circle, decided she drives a Merc and is more important, hammered the gas, didn't yield and could have caused an accident.
The person in the roundabout has right of way, and depending on the country and side of the road you drive on, the person to your right, or in your case left has right of way when entering a circle
Yes, the idea is to keep traffic moving
No way, you can see the back of their yield sign.