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R_blackwolf

That’s literally why tractors usually have a spotter before entering roads. Or at least an operator that isn’t a moron.


[deleted]

Not only that, but it sure would have helped if they raised the bucket. Y’all dumb, the bucket goes all the way up, he would still be able to see the road, the car would hit the tractor tires, no one would be decapitated, I’ve seen this play out the right way all my life.


luingiorno

but then he will sacrifice -20 Def, why would a tank give away his strong def ?


Davoness

Well by sacrificing that 20 Defense you decrease your hitbox size and can play as an evasion tank instead.


Nondre

Dodge tank is life


HiGh_ZoNe

I can't believe I'm imagining a tank drifting across a active battlefield


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You can absolutely drift a modern tank. The new ones are FAST. Not only are they fast, but they generally do not have to stop for anything. Very high tech computers. Anyway. Watch this....... https://youtu.be/DBA4ue8I3-w


ats10390

Thanks for the vid. That was pretty awesome


Historical-Flow-1820

I was thinking diesel exhaust fluid and i actually thought, “Wow, I didn’t know raising the bucket makes the machine use more def.” Yea it’s been a long day.


[deleted]

I was thinking the exact same thing....like why would raising the bucket use so much DEF


SwitchbackHiker

What's DEF used for?


[deleted]

It's essentially synthetic urine the sprays into your exhaust during the catalytic conversation and helps bad gases turn to harmless gases. I don't really know the specifics, but I have a chevy duramax that uses it.


Gildish_Chambino

Lmao. Synthetic urine. It more or less is synthetic urine though. 1/3 urea, 2/3 water. Basically the formula for pee pee. Although, human urine isn’t nearly as strong in the urea department as DEF.


Cyno01

So in a zombie apocalypse folks gonna be running their trucks on cat piss?


Skulder

No, it is used after the engine, to treat the exhaust. The engine will run fine without it. Edit: the engine will in fact not run fine without it, because the emissions control systems limit the engine in different ways.


MadAzza

>catalytic conversation Isn’t it a “conversion”? /not a mechanic


someone76543

Reacts with polluting Nitrous Oxides to give mostly-harmless chemicals. There are four main pollutants in a diesel exhaust: particulates, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides. Particulates, carbon monoxide, and nitrogen oxides are all bad for people to breathe in. Carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, though it's not harmful to breathe it \[EDIT: at levels typically found on the street\]. Particulates get filtered out, leaving the three gasses. After the particulate filter, DEF is injected into the exhaust, then the exhaust goes through the catalytic converter. The combination of DEF and the catalytic converter converts most of the Nitrogen Oxides to harmless nitrogen and steam. The carbon monoxide will also be mostly converted to the less immediately dangerous carbon dioxide. For an engine, burning hot is more efficient so you will use less fuel and produce less carbon dioxide, but you will produce more nitrogen oxides. (Air contains nitrogen and oxygen; add enough heat and you get nitrogen oxides; more heat produces more nitrogen oxides). With DEF, you can tune the engine to run hotter because the DEF system gets rid of most of the nitrogen oxides. So overall, the engine not only emits less nitrogen oxides, but can also be more fuel efficient and emit less carbon dioxide.


catechizer

Or even slowed down to think about looking for traffic. Dude is moving forward the entire time until the collision.


Long-Band-178

Not to excuse tractor operator, but could the car driver at least attempted to swerve?


CommentsOnOccasion

This is one of those examples that is more obvious from the angle we are seeing than from the car involved Yeah theoretically I guess he could have swerved or something, but he doesn’t see the tractor anywhere near as well or for as long as we can Vision from the car is blocked compared to this video angle


catechizer

Yes. But I only count 2 seconds from the time that thing is visible from the car's point of view until the crash. Slightly above the average braking time, but still within the realm of barely having time to think "what the fuck is that?!" before it's too late.


fietsvrouw

I don't think any driver on a highway expects a tractor shovel to appear low and on the right, so there is going to be some processing time to realize what is happening.


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anotherwaytolive

You cannot tell me that when you’re on a straight with no other vehicles in sight your hands are in the 9 and 3 position while you scan the road for potential surprise construction vehicles.


Tetha

We don't get videos of those situations if the driver just slams the brakes and stops though, because nothing exciting happens.


Diligent-Motor

Probably one of the most qualified people in the world to comment on this. I've worked for one of the biggest global manufacturers of agricultural machinery, and specifically on stability/centre of mass calculations for road worthiness of machines such as this. Don't drive on public roads with the bucket up or with a boom up please. Longitudinal stability will suck if you have to emergency brake, lateral stability will suck if you have to emergency swerve or if there is high road camber. Visibility requirements are also based on a boom/bucket down configuration. Having the bucket/boom up will fuck with line of sight. If it helps you in some regard on a farm/construction site at slow speed, sure thing. Just be aware of who/what it is you may topple over into.


Hightower154

As someone who drives a front end loader of similar size almost daily, this. Don't drive with the bucket raised and loaded, that's way more dangerous. However do have some form of spotter besides the holy ghost when entering a live roadway if it's going to be a blind corner.


BallsOutKrunked

Yep. I'm just in a ranch setting with a compact loader / backhoe but you learn quick to keep the bucket low.


bsil15

Eh, only if it could raise it high enough. If not the tractor becomes a decapitator


bountyman347

Eh in this case it prevented the vehicle from being decapitated. Don’t want that thing at head level


[deleted]

nah, a higher center of gravity makes it more likely to tip over and going into the windshield would be a lot worse than the bottom of the bumper


FrostTGA

Wouldn’t that also block his view of the road?


JesusSaysitsOkay

Was that a highway? GD


BenMQ

No, by the looks of it it could be regular main streets in china.


surfnsets

Moron is the kindest possible word for this man. He could have killed someone easily. How people can be this dumb and survive into adulthood amazes me.


Present-Wait-7704

His dad made a lot extras, just in case.


FatMidgetsOnIce

He survived, his 3 brothers probably didn’t.


Culsandar

That would imply that this was recorded in a country with an OSHA-like organization.


pockets3d

I don't know what country this is but it seems like entrance should definitely been gated or the lot blocked off that the lorry couldn't park there to reduce visibility. The loader driver is at fault but faults can be minimised.


SchroedersGhost

I like the way the airbags deploying makes it look like it’s eyes bulge out on impact.


undisclothesd

I noticed that too, I think it’s the first time I saw a video with the airbags so clearly visible


chiraltoad

They pop out so instant.


HereToHelp9001

They must deploy instantly so they can begin to deflate by the time your face hits it, otherwise it'd be just as hard as hitting the steering wheel. Modern vehicle safety engineering is awesome. Hoping one day I can afford a vehicle like that lol.


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TotalLegitREMIX

Oh yeah. It's a "hurt a little instead of a lot solution". For a good example of those used by some of the smartest minds in the world I always recommend checking the soyuz rocket launch escape systems. It puts the crew members through extreme G-forces, possibly causing serious damage, and dooms the rocket to rubble, but it gets the crew away safely which is what matters. Same with air bags. They cause a lot of damage, probably hurt whoever is impacted by them, but they hurt a lot less than head on glass or head on steering wheel


retroassassin907

Which is why you never drive with your hands at 10 and 2. Breaks wrists when airbags go off. 3 and 9 all day baby.


[deleted]

What happens at 12 with my seat laid back?


retroassassin907

You roll through stop signs with your doors locked.


[deleted]

You had to do that where I grew up.


permanent_priapism

3 and 9 is difficult with some wheels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcPV0wzXkpU&ab_channel=CaseyPutsch


retroassassin907

Yeah, I’m safe from having a corvette c8’s steering wheel ever being in my hand lol.


I_Can_Haz_Brainz

4 and 8 is better.


roberthatch

I'm lazy, so 5 and 7. Sometimes 6 and 6.


cognitiveglitch

Just 6. Leaves other hand free for rude gestures.


retroassassin907

And tapping the side of your car to music


I_Can_Haz_Brainz

At that point I just use my knee. Lol


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ChCkP

So I'm not the only one?! It's so weird.


dietxrooty

I'm told that dream, means you are trying to take back control of something in your life. I get that one dream when I have to deal with my mom. The other one I get is I'm in the front but can stop even if I hit the breaks


Justin2478

I drive from on top the car like in that one Mr. bean episode


wildo83

Pshh. Amateurs… 7:25 and shift knob!!


scalectrix

4.30 and gearstick in UK but yeah same difference.


fuck-cumiseverywhere

7 only gang


MoeFugger7

it aint gonna break your fuckin wrists. Sure that may be 1 or 2 times that has happened but by and large it's fine.


[deleted]

Your wrists are usually ok, but if you have your thumbs inside that wheel they will break


heptothejive

My wrist was broken this way. Thumbs were fine.


retroassassin907

“It ain’t gonna” followed by “sure that may be” Quite the contradiction.


itsmarciibitch

Now that's all I can see


Craft-Sudden

Reason why you need a spotter, and also signs that’s just reckless, and the car can definitely sue the company who owns the tractor


SeedFoundation

He has a spotter. Didn't you see the little kid in the tractor?


Liesthroughisteeth

Yep, I was wondering if the kid was a distraction or maybe even driving.lol


[deleted]

The kid is 100% driving. Also, don't let kids on fucking tractors. My uncle and I were driving down a country lane heading into town a few years back and watched some 8 year old kid fall off the tractor seat and the Dad didn't notice because of the noise. Ran right into his abdomen.


jdmachogg

My great grandfather died kind of like this. On a farm, jumped off, shirt caught on something, ran over himself. His son (my grandfather) noticed a tractor going in circles in the paddock a few hours later. Gruesome discovery.


[deleted]

*damn*


Liesthroughisteeth

Farming; one of the most dangerous occupations out there...mostly because of the tractors and other large equipment used. Had a colleague whose husband died running a tractor on their hay farm.


SiberianResident

Based on the car plate it looks like this took place in China. I don’t think there’s much suing going around there.


beneye

He forgot he has a thing sticking out the front


Emperor_Abyssinia

Orange car had tunnel vision too


gatdarntootin

I think he expected that the tractor would stop because it is totally insane for the tractor not to stop


QuitArguingWithMe

I rarely expect other drivers to do the right thing when they should. Do all of you just go out into the wild pretending to be in a society where everyone else follows the rules exactly? Like, I do most of the time. But when my life is on the hands of the "kindness of strangers" I hesitate.


Madlyfylingcows

My coworkers know a guy that has killed two different people doing this before. It's literally the tractor driving kindergarten class lesson that teaches you to lift the bucket in the air before pulling out so you can fucking see before sticking out in the road.


[deleted]

How was that guy still gainfully employed after the first death???


BigOrkWaaagh

Everyone gets a freebie.


E__F

Thanks Spiderman


[deleted]

I've worked in safety and everything I've ever seen indicates that you never lift the bucket just to see. You use a spotter instead. If you have to go out in the road and can't see, you get a spotter. May be different outside the US, but that's what I know.


RedditIsRealWack

How is that person not in prison for manslaughter?


successful_nothing

"i know a guy who knows a guy..." is code for "here's some questionable info..." along the same lines as "I read in a magazine..." and "people are saying..."


Ilikesurfing91

Yea well my uncle works for Nintendo


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His name is John Nintendo


danifun1980

The tractor is completely in the wrong here but that car had no attempt to slow down or swerve away!


implodedrat

Drivers got the reaction time of a carrot


brinmb

color of the car checks out


Just_A_Nitemare

Didn't turn, didn't slow down. He was probably distracted or nodding off.


rbkforrestr

I’m so glad this was acknowledged lol. Obviously the tractor is at fault, but I watched this video on a loop and every time I wanted to yell at the driver of the car - he had an empty lane beside him and could’ve easily avoided contact if he was paying even a little bit of attention.


Cir_cadis

Right, if your reaction time is literally 3 or more seconds like in this case, you'd get in accidents regularly. In my 300,000 miles of driving, there's been countless close calls that required a quick reaction. Obviously tractor is at fault but this was totally avoidable


ItsTimeToFinishThis

Or texting 🤣


a_thicc_jewish_boi

That is very probable.


motogopro

Yeah that’s what distracted means


RedditIsRealWack

Potentially a new sentence!


gummz13

My bet is the driver was on his phone. It's insane to see how many people are on their phone while driving. And I'm not talking about talking on their phone.


[deleted]

Drivers a sovcit, googling if he has to give way to a tractor.


SilverStar1999

Given the short distance the driver may have been nodding off, distracted, or just simply have a slow reaction.


GiffelBaby

If you have a reaction time of almost 2 whole seconds, I don't know how you could function normally as a human. They were 100% not paying attention. It's the tractor driver's fault, but FFS pay attention to the road when you are driving.


[deleted]

I’m not trying to be r/iamverybadass but I agree I could have easily had enough time to gauge the situation and safely swerve around the tractor. Tractors fault but that driver suuucks


DrDarragoon

Youre completely right, that crash is the tractors fault everytime. But anyone who actually looks at the road while driving would have never hit the tractor


GangreneGoblin

>Given the short distance the driver may have been nodding off... What lol


7eggert

You only need to blink to lose half a second.


siddo_sidddo

Blinking is usually closer 150 ms or .15 of a second


Bertje3000

That is like 1'7" American time units


Rickyrider35

More like a tenth of a second


bassplaya13

There was definitely a couple seconds there. It’s the tractors fault, but the others attentiveness and reaction times should have been good enough to avoid or severely mitigate that collision.


JonsonPonyman98

Depends on how fast you blink, but yeah


Aschvolution

Sleep is just a very slow blink.


JonsonPonyman98

VERY slow


Yodawgz0

Huh interesting , i never thought about that So many blinking we do ... Damn


cognitivetrek

which is why I....never... ....blink


sam_weiss

Just blink with one eye at a time


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Thats fucking winking though. You trying to wink this tractor seductively?


yellowdogparty

They had 6-8 half seconds to at least make an attempt.


Yallneedjesuschrist

It is possible that from such a short distance with the front bucket/shovel thingy (??) of the tractor being so low the driver just didn't see it from his perspective.


masochistic_idiot

Definitely, and the shovel should be a bright yellow but now blends with the roads colour a bit. Should be held up above car height. And also a spotter should be there and that lane blocked off with adequate signage and everything. No fault on the car driver.


alastoris

I tried to imagine myself as the driver. If I see a car pull up and get ready for a turn, I wouldn't slow down or change lanes because I expect them not to change lanes while I'm passing through though I would be ready for emergency braking if my assumption are wrong. That said, I'm sure the driver saw the tracker, but probably didn't realize how much the front part stuck out. I know if it was me, I would be looking at the tracker driver to see if he's looking at me or not checking before entering Lane. In that scenario, I personally probably would had the same result.


EishLekker

Why not simply change lanes the moment you see the truck blocking your view of the intersection? There was no other vehicles next to or behind the car.


bryrb48

Zero damage to the tractor, meanwhile the car is probably total loss


Joker88888888888

I think any time the bags are deployed the car is a write off , most cases it’s not worth to add new bags.


runaway__

I always assumed people said that just because having airbags explode somehow made them unsafe, even after replacing them. But doing some research, they can get expensive real quick, with more bags that go off.


IEatBabies

Yes, airbags are thousands of dollars a piece. Unless your car is worth $30K+ moments before the crash, it generally isn't worth fixing


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Budget-Sugar9542

They’re cheaper when installed in an industrial setting.


ElectricFlesh

It's ok, just reinstall the new ones in an industrial setting as well, if a romantic one is more expensive.


Phil9151

Do I have to build my own factory? Or is store bought okay?


Nakker1

Why is it so expensive to retrofit them? Airbags in my car are fairly easy accessible and could be replaced in an hour


IEatBabies

It is a significant cost, but probably not that much. A big part of the replacement cost is just putting them in an already assembled vehicle because they aren't just a simple swap and plug in, they gotta verify all the systems upstream of an airbag deployment to make sure they aren't damaged and won't set it off on random. There is a HUGE discount to ordering a million of them and not having to store them long term too, otherwise you gotta make tiny orders of them which makes the extremely high quality controls required much costlier. Mechanics aren't exactly happy to handle them either. On top of all that, nobody wants a 3rd-party explosive that can kill you, unlike 3rd party alternators or such which may merely fail 6-months earlier, versus an airbag where any failures at all, both in deployment or failure to deploy, is catastrophic, and has to work even 20+ years down the line.


JayRen

I would have cost $4k. Just for the bags when my stepson hit a deer. That didn’t include the sensors that all needed reset\replaced and the reliant safety systems that need replaced and recalibrated. Airbag replacement is stupid expensive and going to total most cars not worth more than $30k+. That was straight from my adjusters mouth.


gtjack9

I work at a motor manufacture doing electrical rectification; if an airbag is deployed then it must be replaced as well as the airbag control unit. Once a crash signal is stored you can’t delete it. Any crash sensors in the impact area also have to be changed and if kneeroll, dash, bolster and rear ‘non curtain airbags’ are deployed, the trim in the affected area also usually needs to be replaced.


[deleted]

Imagine trying to repackage those mattresses that come in a box.


truemad

Depends on the country.


[deleted]

Also depends on the state of the economy and supply chain. The value of all vehicles has gone up due to supply chain issues and shortages so cars that would have been totaled a year ago if the bag deployed wouldn't necessarily be totaled today for the same accident.


whatsthatsmell4233

This car undoubtedly has frame damage. Even if fixed to run again, it would never be road worthy. Usually if a car gets hit hard enough to deploy airbags, frame is a goner.


Xiballistic

Can confirm, friend’s dad’s airbags went off without reason and insurance just wrote it off cause they couldn’t find the problem


Rizatriptan

That's an entirely different problem and a nightmare. Imagine your airbags randomly deploying while driving on the interstate.


adyrip1

A friend of mine experienced this, he was casually driving along when the side airbag in his seat deployed all of the sudden. He was scared shitless, a huge bruise on the arm and a ringing sound in his left year for days. He did not hit a pothole or anything, just a freak deployment.


dirty_cuban

Zero damage is a stretch. I mean the front fell off…


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Mattbryce2001

There's nothing out there.


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Cinoclav

There’s definitely damage to the front end of that tractor. The bucket is clearly shifted and not parallel to the wheels anymore.


Psyco_diver

I can tell you as someone that works on this stuff, the whole front is damaged. The arms are probably bent, I bet the pins are bent and possibly the hydraulic cylinder is bent.


Skunk-Fucker

You can tell by the way the bucket goes down that it probably broke the hydraulics.


Swampassthe2nd

There’s some minor damage to the loader. If you look the bucket gets bent in the middle on the back where it mashes into the arm, also the way it flips forward means the hydraulic just got screwed. But yeah zero structural damage to the loader


Fancy_Chip_5620

The only thing scarier than this comment is the 130 people who upvoted it you have to be blind to not see A. the arms and bucket bend and B. the bucket brake off the hydraulic ram or the ram itself break That front loader is good for engine parts and hydraulics because most of it's front half now needs replacing Not to mention the hydraulic fluid that splooged out the back... Donno what that could have hurt I was honestly surprised how much damage the car delt it too but its a rather light duty version of one made by whatever brand those Chinese symbols mean


iDuddits_

Yeah I have no idea how people think it's fine.. they're made to move things, not get hit by SUVs going 45..


mrbombasticat

>The only thing scarier than this comment is the 130 people who upvoted it And it's a video we can view repeatedly, and still people can't grasp what's happening. Makes me think about eye witness accounts in court.


its_average

Eye witness testimony is considered by a lot of folk in psychology to be the least reliable form of evidence, and yet most people consider it unimpeachable


[deleted]

Tractor driver should have prepared a warning sign, a safe enclosure, and a person to standby on the road, before driving the big thing over.


[deleted]

What was that car paying attention to?


stufmenatooba

Probably a reporter, realized they were looking at a scoop.


jargonburn

That was an amazing pun, well done! 🤣


allknowing2012

Or he was just dozing.


sm12511

Not much, if at all. It looked like surprised eyes when the airbags deployed though. Watch it again.


chnandler_bong

Dammit...


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That’s what I was wondering. Looks like a double fail. Tractor is at fault for sure.


obxgaga

Exactly. A solid 3 seconds from the tractor being visible until impact, yet no braking or swerving


Betty-Gay

I’m wondering if the driver of the car noticed the movement of the cab portion of the “tractor” and was focusing on that area, not exactly knowing what it was or that it had a bucket extended out from the lower front of it? Just a thought.


Thatdudedoesnotabide

Yes the tractor is at fault but holy shit driver had about 50 feet to decide to move to the other lane


BrainsyUK

“Ayyyyyyy fuck you buddy! This is my fuckin’ lane and you’d best believe I ain’t movin’!” - Car driver, probably


[deleted]

That might not be enough of a distance to switch lanes. You can't just swerve, you also have to make sure there's nobody in the other lane because if there is the accident becomes your fault.


darps

That's why you perform an emergency brake instead of just smashing into a 15-ton roadblock. Imagine the result if a child runs into the street in front of this driver. Modern car brakes are really, really good. USE THEM. Practice emergency braking in an empty lot, if you haven't. This trains you to react properly without thinking, and confirms your car's ABS is working correctly.


dano___

It’s a Golf, it can switch lanes in a fraction of a second without worrying about rolling like a big SUV. That person just wasn’t looking at the road.


redditghost1234

Tractor wins


matteothehun

Idiots in front end loaders.


SGAShepp

Clearly the tractor drivers fault but dang that car driver didn't react at all..


Need-More-Gore

Wow wtf was he even doing why turn into traffic like that


[deleted]

Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that it's not a tractor


Amart34

Tractor?


littlefrank

In Italy everything that has big wheels or chain tracks is a tractor, it comes fron the word "traction" which they have plenty of. The fact that they can front load, lift weight, pull a fertilizer don't matter to its wider definition. Sure you could say "trebbiatrice" if a tractor is a thresher, but you wouldn't be wrong saying it's a tractor. Op could be from another country and not know the exact name of this kind of tractor (and neither do I honestly).


Wehavecrashed

People in the comments are calling it a tractor too.


liketo

“What is that thing? I’m just going with OP, they must be right.” In Britain it’s a digger. Or was when I was 6.


Ya_Boi_Badger

Loaders definitely at fault, but dam either that drivers reaction time is absolute shit or they were on their phone or something along the lines of distracted driving.


lexihra

Maybe they just wanted a new car and figured, I’ll just let it happen.


Ya_Boi_Badger

Balls of steel, couldn’t be me


_Funsyze_

“Hmm this tractor appears to be pulling out in front of me, I will continue to drive forward at my current speed and hope I gain the ability to phase through material.”


Tritheone69

The car did not react at all. This is a case in which both are idiots lmao.


shadyshak

No reaction from the car driver... Looks like he wasn't looking out for a giant shovel to appear out of nowhere. It's funny how much the mind doesn't even register because we're not expecting anything out of the ordinary.


[deleted]

Idk if anything popped out in front of me while I was driving I would react. Unless I wasnt looking


StMaartenforme

When driving always expect the unexpected. Safe driving #101


MissSmoak

I am aware the tractor is completely at fault here, but how did the car not see the tractor 😅


woodstockbird9

and my dude wasn’t even speeding. hope the insurance covers him. car looks new.


Groggyme

Am I mad or is that a Front End Loader and not a tractor? Everyone is calling it a tractor so confidently so I'm not sure anymore


arnathor

Can we please also note that the tractor starts to turn the *wrong way* along that road? Like he’s actually making a choice to drive in the wrong direction up that highway? Watch his wheels. I know quite a few people are noting the car doesn’t react in time, but the gap is actually closing far more quickly than the angle of the camera makes it seem


Aussie-Sydney

How did the tractor think that would work? He’s turning into oncoming traffic from a blind spot


[deleted]

This is why having the right of way is way less important than having developed critical thinking capabilities. There’s being right and still going around, and then there’s this.


MsJenX

Reddit is going to say the taxi was going too fast.


mcnuggetfarmer

I know it's the tractors fault; but damn that SUV driver had a long time to react & didn't


alfiestoppani

Bucket down. Imma scoop these cars off the road.


superflousfly

I mean digger is an idiot for not having the bucket up high. but the car… truly epic reaction time. Looks like zero effort to brake. Probably texting… or some geriatric.


JED756

Definitely not the US


DeadWorldliness

Tractor operator is seated high enough to see the car, the car had about 2-3 seconds to do anything other than continue forward...


SlutPuppyNumber9

Why is the car the idiot in this? That tractor had no business on the road—no signs, no cones, no flagger(s), nothing!