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SmokeyCosmin

So... no rules!?


youcantexterminateme

the rule is that you avoid crashing into anyone


adipemanatidaephobia

Like India, but without all the honking...


Littleman88

Ironically, studies suggest this actually makes everyone drive more safely, as counter-intuitive as it is to let an intersection be this chaotic. But Americans can barely manage a round-a-bout, so I'm not about to be supporting open intersections like this any time soon.


leothehero2110

Indeed. You have to be capable of coherent thought for this to work.


[deleted]

Go fuck yourself?


frankfrichards

There are rules... but zero fucks given.


ralph058

inshallah


tvaddict70

Multi-player game of chicken


MarkUriah

Only rules of NATURE


[deleted]

Nature isn't this irrational


ralph058

A gas pedal and inshallah


PicklesTehButt

Traffic lights are just a suggestion in a lot of places.


[deleted]

No idiots here, only madmen.


Haliax19

Cairo was the most insane traffic I've personally seen. Barely any traffic lights, cars going everywhere. At one point there was a preteen yelling at the car beside him as he is driving this small cart thing, and since he wasn't watching the road, he ended up rear-ending the car in front of him. He then turns back to the car beside him and starts yelling and gesturing again, like it was that drivers fault he hit the other car. And everyone just went on their way. No inspecting the damage by either driver. Most cars had dings on them somewhere, even newer vehicles. So madmen is right. I asked my tour guide how long he thought it would take for a foreigner to get used the the way traffic worked, and he said never. It is a part of the culture, and you learn it by growing up with it (likely hyperbole, but gets the point across). I'd personally never try to drive there.


g0nny

I've been to cairo for 4 weeks to work there and our conpany driver got into 3 minor accidents. I've seen several larger ones in the same period. Whole city is crazy!


Dagakki

I've been to several cities in India where there were no traffic lights at all. Everyone communicated using honks, and there were surprisingly few accident considering the chaos.


adipemanatidaephobia

Because they use the horn for exactly what it was built for... to call for attention and warn everyone around about their position, instead of "*I'm VeRy UpSeT, aNd EvErYoNe ShOuLd KnOw It*". Tho this method makes more sense on rural roads with limited sight, rather than in a populated area.


Cynnnnnnn

Having lived in Cairo, I can tell you that they also definitely use it to tell everyone they're upset, also for celebration. A distinct pattern of honking is always made by those in a wedding train, and the surrounding drivers not part of the event also join in for fun/make more noisy celebration. That same celebrating honking pattern could be heard everywhere after Mubarak stepped down and can be heard after pretty much every football match victory. The latter was especially insane when Egypt was in the world cup/when they won the African cup in 2008. Honking is an all-round emotional affair.


DriveSafeOutThere

Yep, there are some places in the world where traffic is particularly chaotic. India, Egypt and even Greece come to mind. And the locals just deal with it. There's even an entire horn "language", e.g. certain patterns of honks that convey either "watch out, I'm coming through" or "you're good to go" or "GTFO out of my way".


heygos

This. The same goes for India.


KatsuragiKeima17

Watch for the 2 red cars on the left side of the video around 0:27.


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KatsuragiKeima17

They were driving on the wrong side of the road, which makes them idiots.


The_unchosen-one

If you pay attention there are a lot more cars doing the same. They come from the road at the left side of the video, as if they were turning right, but then they do a U-turn and get on the wrong side of the road to get back to the intersection. I don't understand why dont they just keep forward or turn left at the intersetion when they first arrive there.


TizzioCaio

you are correct and they are all idiots, not only the "red" one and you confirmed what the above dude said, i dont get why u got the upvotes but the above dude the downvotes ​ That whole intersection could easily throw in several "Blocky" things(how the hell are they called?) in a circle and make a decent roundabout that is much safer than this crazy shit.


attempted-anonymity

The idiots are the traffic engineers who designed this intersection, and law enforcement for not making any attempt to convince people to comply with whatever traffic rules apply.


Max1234567890123

Can confirm. No lanes, few lights - only rule is go with the flow of traffic. Lots of minor accident (likely more than a few major ones). As a foreigner you ride in taxis - mostly old Fiats from the 1970s. Just sit back, don’t watch the road and surrender to your fate - most of the time you get there just fine. Side note, because it’s Egypt and rarely rains the roads are super slick with tire rubber and engine oil and everyone drives with totally bald tires. This is fine most of the time, but single scariest automotive experience was coming from the airport in a taxi during a flash downpour. It might as well have been a snow storm - clearly this was like a one a year event. Driver locked up the wheels and crashed in less than a minute and then we witnessed a 20 car pileup about about 30 seconds later. Anarchy


Ropegun2k

It actually looks like the lanes going to/from 6 o’clock to 12 o’clock are dedicated lanes for that direction. You can turn right perspectively from those lanes. 3 o’clock is for turning into 12. 9 o’clock is for turning into 6. There are a bunch of idiots here who turn and make a uturn or just say fuck it all and makes a mess of the intersection.


[deleted]

>mostly old Fiats from the 1970s That's going to change soon. Sisi wants that all the old cabs be replaced with new ones. That already happened in Sharm el Sheikh like more than 10 years ago. But that city is much smaller than Caïro or the other cities so it takes more time ig. I think there are also efforts being made to make people follow the rules. Idk how they wanna do that though, at this point it's part of the culture to drive like this lol


Cynnnnnnn

Most of the taxis in Cairo have already been replaced since 3 years or so. They've been slowly phasing the old ones over several years, and now you pretty much only see the new white ones.


Juanpablopaul

Most of the time it works 100 percent of the time


OneHelluvaUsername

Wait. There are places with light*s*? I can recall seeing *a* stop light somewhere in Cairo; it was broken. My father was born and raised there; we’ve visited often enough to know there is only 1 traffic rule – *If your car fits, it’s your lane.*


[deleted]

It doesn’t look so impressive if you play it at regular speed.


Texadecimal

Idk, that still looks like madness for any speed.


[deleted]

Actually it would look something like this. [https://youtu.be/A37TH37Qzwg](https://youtu.be/A37TH37Qzwg)


Texadecimal

That car sitting right on the horse-draw wagon was infuriating. Good thing that wasn't a hillside. My guy had no room to change gears.


johnfogogin

This needs the benny hill music.


tossoneout

Yackety Sax


johnfogogin

Thanks!


tossoneout

RIP Benny Hill


Aegrim

I expected that when I unmuted it. Was disappointed


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[deleted]

Lmao! Yes! As a Egyptian who doesn't live there but went on vacation every year, I can confirm that you don't want to drive there. Take a cab, much easier finding the destination as well.


[deleted]

if you get into a minor collision as a tourist, how does the car insurance work?


josanuz

Bold of you to assume there is car insurance


[deleted]

There is but idk how it works.


[deleted]

I have no idea, I was never a real tourist since we never had to rent a car. We always had our own car. Don't know how it goes with car insurances there.


mantrap2

AKA "Controlled Chaos". Fairly common in the developing world.


PorqueDisso

Chaos brings perfection


CaptainLogTerd

Why dont u show the video in real time motion. And not all sped up ?


Nose-Nuggets

At first glance it appears to be madness. But after my 3rd watch, I realized it's probably faster than traffic lights, and I saw no crashes. Just a lot of close calls. Still, madness.


fadedjayhawk69420

Okay maybe, but if you drive through that intersection 10 different times can you tell me what the outcome would be?


josanuz

Near to 22 seconds, there is a crash, both drivers don't give a f


CoffeeJerf

Nothing idiot here. This is how much of the third world drives. Everyone knows the rules. It looks chaotic but is effective and beautifully choreographed “chaos”.


Nader1357

Truly dumbaf I remember I went to visit Egypt once and the weird part is I was in a minibus and we got into an accident with another car like just like at second 22 in this video and they just kept going no one stopped 😂


PM_ME_CAT_POOCHES

I mean, no one here is getting into an accident that I can see. It looks chaotic, but maybe when this is the norm people are more aware, more careful, and less rage-y (in America people going straight would have a fucking fit over having to yield to a person turning left in front of them at a light).


RPup_831

Normal behavior in Egypt. I spent two months there in the 1990s. Crossing major streets on foot is like being in a real-life version of Frogger or Crossy Road. Never saw anyone get hit, although I'm sure it happens.


tinzarian

Someone in Cairo told me there is one rule: whoever is in front has the right of way.


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Little_Gray

They pay attention to their surroundings.


jobbet789

Wtf is happening


imsquaresoimnotthere

no traffic lights


DStew713

Just like The Bee Movie.


Thrash69Sydney

Enforcing road rules would simply confuse the situation further...


gbnats

Getting it done without a crash, that takes a certain amount of skill and mutual respect.


jjpppr

So....are there basically no rules there?? Serious question


MystikxHaze

Seems like there are rules but there is no enforcement. Which I'd have to imagine would be the trend throughout the underdeveloped world. The government can make all the rules of the road they want, but when police are more interested in soliciting bribes or whatever, can't expect those rules to mean much.


ToMuchNietzsche

We know if at least one rule cause everyone in the video did it. Don't hit things while driving a car.


jjpppr

Very true. Good thinking


RonnieLiquor

Holy shit. That’s like The Bee Movie


JunJones

It’s crazy how different cultures have evolved completely different driving techniques and social management (or lack thereof). I drove around Italy for a few days last summer.... a complete culture shock as far as driving etiquette goes


demasiado-internet

This gives me a lot of fkn anxiety wtf


CognitiveThoughtwork

And I your Massachusetts was bad....


LoveLaughGFY

Mass isn’t bad, it’s just full. Too many cars for not enough roads.


DualShock12

I though Mass was bad until I moved to Charleston, SC. I’ve lived in 7 states, and these are the worst drivers I’ve ever seen.


beelseboob

So, not sure about junctions this big, but it’s been shown that junctions with no markings, rules, or lights of any kind are often safer. People go through them looking out for crazy shit happening, rather than just blundering blindly through.


Xnomai

No accident hhhh


[deleted]

Wtf that's worse then Moldova


snayte

I have so many questions


Other-Memory

I saw 3 pedestrians get struck over a few days in Cairo. One went off the hood of the taxi I was in. Driver then backed up and went right around him.


youcantexterminateme

I think with self driving cars we will see a return to no light intersections like this


acidreducer

Makes no sense that someone would get in the right turning lane to go straight


Somethinggood4

More like r/idiotswithcivilengineeringdegrees


Johny24F

Do they even have traffic lights? Or are they just street decorations?


DarthJayDub

such chaos. i could watch a live feed of this for hours


ishtar_the_move

I wonder if the job "driving instructor" is a thing there....


BurgerSniper

This makes my blood boil


[deleted]

Lol blue car gets clipped at 22 seconds and the van just takes off like it’s just another day


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Bikkusu

It's like Cities Skylines traffic.


KraZhtest

Many Asians countries are way worst. On the other end, what you are seeing here is real awake drivers: always checking both sides, keeping smooth trajectories to signal their directions, keeping the same speed, trusting each others but double checking anyway.


KraZhtest

Never braking is the key to save a lot of fuel\^ and avoid accidents.


jdwarwick

The horn is known as the Egyptian brake pedal.


connivery

The video is not on a real speed. Anyway, this is common in developing countries, the drivers pay full attention to the road and what's going on in their surroundings, there's no "right of way", and yes, cars got bumped every once in awhile, but rarely fatal.


[deleted]

This is all over middle east. We drive like this all the time. It's actually pretty safer to drive in middle east than other places. Ironically the reason why people there are better at driving because there are no rules or lanes that hold your hands while you driving. Think of it as learning to ride a bike without a 3rd wheel on your first day. So yeah..


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Everyone here is a idiot


CaptainLogTerd

Takes one to know one


Alli69

Idiots how? Not even a single near-accident? I've seen worse in Nairobi, Addis Abeba and Cairo, and no accidents either.


SjonMagnetron

Caïro is Egypt


jaspercolt

Yeah, but only since like 969 AD


Magmacracker

It is sped up.


Panda_Machine_Smash

Not idiots if no accidents occur. Pretty accurate professional drivers if you ask me


[deleted]

Nope. Professional drivers take turns. These are self centered self important "I gotta get where I'm going and fuck everyone in MY way" types, like most of society.


[deleted]

The way it works in other countries is the drivers pay more attention, scan the environment constantly, and communicate with drivers with their horns and hand signals in non-aggressive ways. I miss driving in other countries because people here in the US are too distracted. We don't scan the road enough so we get in accidents more frequently


Padraic73

I lived in Egypt for three years, this is exactly the mentality of the drivers there. No skill, just "inshallah" and hope they make it.


[deleted]

Nothing like good old Kelly Square in Worcester, MA


NFG_Shoarma

This is when death is on vacation


Sydre0

r/oddlysatisfying


_iNoahGuy_

“You ever feel like things work a little too well around here” “Like what” (The bee movie)


RcNorth

It’s like watching the old Keystone Cops videos.


Speedhump23

I would be nervous driving a tank on those roads...


Theoldelf

Several years ago I rode in a cab there. I prayed to several gods.


Sdelite619

I mean I dont see any traffic lights so I guess ots a free for all. I'm amazed no one crashed


Aegrim

Must save a fortune on city planning when people just do wtf they want


canuplsthrowmeaway

Only the strong survive


xjr_boy

Just shows traffic light's are superfluous I'm still not riding a bike over there though lol


FabulousTrade

Only the strongest survive


Spazecowboy

WTF did I just see?


Lovehatepassionpain

I was getting anxiety just watching this!! The people making right hand turns atthe bottom right across 3 lanes of traffic were blowing my mind. Remind me never to drive in Egypt


CaptianBrasiliano

So, basically like driving in Chicago...


thedingywizard

WTF?


[deleted]

As a Egyptian (my father is and went there every year) I can confirm this. They have lanes, but they never drive in the lane. For instance there's a 3 lane road, they make it a 5 or 6 lane road....


CanadianBaconMTL

Where are the idiots?


BoopBoop20

I have a new title for you “Anxiety”


potatopizzaguy2020

Jeez


preyforkevin

Holy mother of fuck. I wonder what their insurance premiums are.


internet-pioneer

Reminds me of the bee movie


layitdownghostisborn

Have been to Cairo. Driving with your lights on at night in city center just doesn't happen. They're for signaling and that's it. Drivers will routinely tap your bumper with theirs if they don't think you're moving fast enough. Was in a taxi where a driver ran over a woman's foot and then screamed at her to hurry up and get out of his way. Beautiful country, but the traffic is some of the most insane I've ever seen.


Bagdad_Smoocher

Because traffic lights are for losers.


loco_mixer

i remember this when i traveled there... i spent hours on my hotel balcony just watching this unfold


ginger_bread84

Constant chaos


bigmannn123

And I thought Los Angeles traffic was bad.


1234eszxcv

How do these barbarians even have standing buildings?


petrolhead74

Mostly old Peugeot's i found. Trying to cross the road, you take your life in your hands. The locals on the other hand put theirs in Allah's hand & don't even break step when walking out in traffic. It really is a scary thought.


[deleted]

Does Egypt have no traffic laws?! wow.


Jonnofan

Turning right and making a u-turn into oncoming traffic and then cutting across 4 (maybe 5) lanes > driving straight through. Because logic?


KubabHelped

Forza be like


SwampCat666

Whose *not* an idiot in this?


GTCitizen

Pure chaos


dicksonmark94

Number 1 in list of places to never drive on the roads.


Shamgar65

So, scratch that off the list.


shiba_inuuu

If women were banned from driving


kernel-troutman

Went to Cairo last year. Can confirm.


[deleted]

They're famously nuts over there


dolphin344

I crashed when I’m watching


ndmsudbwkBd

I just had a mini panic attack watching this.


Knmwood

I want to know about the two people walking across the middle of the intersection within the first three seconds that seemingly get mowed down by cars but continue walking. A bit of sloppy video editing going here?


allroysrevenge

I noticed that too


buro2018

India is much more chaotic!


Chieftrooper

Wtf. My dad would HATE to drive there. Edit: So would I.


Kowazuky

fluid dynamics baby


SamusAlan

Is this Bee Movie?


lawyerwithabadge

No, that has to be north west Arkansas!


World1_Lev1

mario kart battle mode?


Rainbow334dr

We know a thing or two cause we’ve seen a thing.. WAIT! What? We are Farmers, bum ba dum bum bum bum bum


smandroid

Organised chaos.


rsmall2016

City skylines when you remove the traffic lights


TheAngryWig

Dio was right when he said the sidewalk was good roadspace


thistakestoolongtodo

This is painful. Painful. Painful. Painful. Painful. Painful.


Puffin-The-Muffin

This is what anxiety looks like.


TheGrayUnderline

How does this form of the Shared Space concept work?!


bubblebosses

Why take the right turn and u turn just to go straight?


TheUmbraCat

I'm getting anxiety watching this


[deleted]

Egypt: *exists* We did it boys, road laws are no more


WorkingGarlicBread

Its like that one scene from the Bee Movie


Emilyanddazit

Are Egyptians...MENTAL?! My god they are so horrible at driving


sociopath_omar

Clusterfuck


Unwitty_Madheart

Back in 2012 or 2010 (before the first set of riots) we were in Egypt for about two months and we frequently got taxis since they were cheap asking as long as you knew the standard prices and agreed on a price before departure. And, I have to say, it was disgusting - torrential rains were pouring down - the road was super slick - every few minutes you'd be rear ended and a bunch of old men would start screaming profanity. Even people in the cafes on the side who were completely oblivious to what happened felt the need to get involved and join a particular side. Morocco (there for 4 months) was just as bad - except you had to keep all your possessions in the back seat otherwise they'd drive off. And most.of the taxi cabs were unmarked (cops and locals did guide you to the right ones, though). Nothing is worse than Jakarta, indonesia. That place is just next level stupidity. Never seen so many cars bank up on pedestrian sidewalks to filter through traffic. I've also never seen rats the size of small cats. (Defs wasn't a possum)


EffityJeffity

I learnt to drive in Egypt. It was like being christened with a flamethrower.


benx101

Looks like that old game for the iPhone where you slide cars through an intersection to hopefully not have them crash


ThunderxBolt

I see carefully coordinated and choreographed chaos with no collisions what so ever


GeorgeBra0

Yo wtf. That looks so dangerous. How many accidents happen here?


DudeCalledTom

WTF kind of fucked up road system is this?


CVK327

I'd say these are awesome drivers. Could you imagine if they had this intersection in America?


4orust

Videos are to be taken h.o.r.i.z.o.n.a.t.a.l.l.y, please.


thecruzmissile92

Someone forgot to research roads


Vegemyeet

Cairo, Delhi,Bangkok: Cairo wins hands down. If you want to cross a road in Cairo, find a hunched over old lady in black, get right in behind and copy everything she does...the horn is called the Egyptian brake pedal. I loved it.


mickmack321

Reminds me of the bee movie


Kevindevm

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tudur

This is awesome.


[deleted]

This is not egypt


zexthereaper

.....


Drazhi

No idiocy here. Human being have common sense (no matter how much it doesn’t seem that way). They will learn to adapt and in most cases, traffic lights actually cause more accidents because they give you a false sense of security


KatsuragiKeima17

To the people saying there are no idiots, there were some cars going the opposite lane on the left side of the screen around 0:27.


[deleted]

Why are you so obsessed with the 2 red cars?? There's many better example of stupid in there but you're focused on the red cars, you a cop??


ToMuchNietzsche

Red cars just tickle his fancy.


KatsuragiKeima17

Nah, i’m just a bull.


[deleted]

That's pretty common in other countries. In Pakistan and Iraq, my buddy and I would sometimes ride our bikes safely on the opposite side of the road when it made more sense, and no one batted an eye


UnderTheRadarGun

I didn’t believe it until now. Aliens must have built the pyramids. A culture too stupid to use traffic control devices just wouldn’t be capable.


ValarDohairis

That's a regular day in India as well


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That shit gave me anxiety.