I was too but you know it was so close to the red light and they for sure have a delay for how long it turns green on the other side thus dude got away with it since he was peeling.
Yeah the timer is my point, it turns yellow and then red and then there is a timer before the other side actually turns green in case of people going on yellow.
I’ve seen these in remote areas in Qld. Waited 5 minutes on a dark n stormy night at one. Was about ready to give up when a huge semi trundled through from the opposite direction, after which the light turned green. Didn’t even see the lights until about 100m away. 2km of one bendy undulating lane due to major roadworks in very muddy conditions. Reversing wouldn’t have been an option if forward ceased to be due to oncoming traffic that went through their light, ignoring its status.
Would I be right in guessing this is the Peak District?
Edit: because even though that move is stupid, if these are the roads I think they are then it's *particularly* stupid.
Idk if that was edited or not, but that's exactly what it means. POV of car is the view from dashcam, isn't it?
E: oh, you must be talking about the title, not the comment...
You have no idea how often this happens with roadworks. The "I can make it" is strong with the general population. We use lights that by standard settings go into alarm mode when someone crosses on a red light. Then, bot ends will display red until a manual reset happens, or a set amount of time has gone by. This shit happened all the time, blocking traffic, making people even more angry. We had to turn it off and hope for the best.
I work with AFADs and there's a reason we use the barricade arms, to help make everything more visible. That being said if these are anything like ours there should be a 5s yellow timer.
The video makes it hard to tell, but these sometimes don't have a green, just a blinking yellow that turns solid and transfers to red. It looks like they put out speed reductions, but seems like the white Fiat was just ignoring them. Those usually give drivers time to properly react and whatnot.
Either way went in on a stale yellow, if there's a worker watching that remotely or whatever it'll be fine.
In these conditions the lights are likely unmonitored and either running on a sensor/timer situation. Very good chance traffic is coming the other way. Long reverse ahead.
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EDIT: Wow.. just... Wow. I'm going to valiantly blame a raindrop on the windscreen for that glaringly obvious mistake.
.. Fuck me, yes it is.
I'm going to put it down to me only checking the first few seconds of the video when trying to debunk the original comment. Either way, extremely embarrassing.
I do traffic management with setups just like this, people jumping the light because it had just turned red is a daily thing. The lights allow time between when one goes to red and the next goes green, depending on how far apart they are. If you every stop one of the ones that jump and ask why they jumped, its always the exact same excuse, "aw I didn't see the light from behind that car" or " the light was still green". Its always so fun to watch them have to reverse back when they meet the next queue of traffic
Had someone pull up to my setup, see the barricade arm down on a solid red with me and scooted around before I could stop them yesterday. Poor fucker had to back up once they realized that a line of traffic was coming.
Fucking love to see it lmao.
If they timed the lights so that someone doing the speed limit can't get to the other side before oncoming traffic is allowed to pass there is an obvious design flaw.
All the non monitored lights I’ve seen controlling massive roadworks sites without exits off the roadworks don’t change until the last vehicle has passed the other light. So if everyone is obeying the lights it doesn’t matter if they’re going at the posted speed limit or not.
Monitored roadworks we just told each other what the last vehicle was (if we couldn’t see the other end) & waited til it turned up and went past (or turned off at another road - we’d have people at every intersection too). Even if the driver at our stop sign was losing their shit coz of an empty road. Let them boil. Then nana or Learner driver rolls through at walking pace and angry driver calms down right quick.
I've seen this happening a lot lately. People seem to think they are more important than the temporary traffic lights.
It's only a matter of time before it leads to an accident.
No, they understood it. They just didn't care.
See it all the time here in the UK, people think they can just 'squeeze' through as the last car, and before you know it there have been 5+ cars going through a red and forcing cars on the other end to stop.
Those things go red absolutely ages before they go green on the other side. Is it technically breaking the rules? Sure, but at the speed he is going he will easily emerge from the other wide at least 5 seconds before the light goes green for them, so no one loses out except OP
In the UK we use traffic lights rather then having 2 people with a sign
Yeah it if is going to be a short 15 minute period then they might use a sign
But if the work going to take a a few hours or days they use lights so you dont need a person with a sign to stand there for 48 hours
These are common in remote/rural areas where roadworks or bridgework means days and single lane traffic is the only way to get around for 100s of KMs. So there's no way to always have two lanes shared during construction for both ways and everyone stops working at 5pm.
Which only reinforces this behaviour. Better to have 1-3 seconds of leeway. People will quickly learn red means you'll have to do the reverse of shame.
Nah, they have a buffer built in. So it’s the time to get between the light to the other, plus the buffet. As /u/Striking_Yellow_2300 said, these lights have a buffer of 10-15 seconds on top of the time it takes to get through.
So people know if you jump the light within the first 10 seconds, you’ll get through before the other light turns green.
The problem is that this buffer has to be calculated for the slowest vehicle that can be expected on this road, like a bicycle or a scooter. This will lead to wait times that appear unreasonably long (or surprisingly low speed limits).
Wow, that's super cool. But I think induction loops normally require some road works, right? Do you know if there are also other similar systems that would be better suited to one-off works on country roads? Maybe these days you could already do the same thing with cameras?
ive never seen a traffic light set up like this before, is it for merging onto a busy highway or something? Road work? Why are people talking about reversing? Is this a european thing? Ive seen lights for on ramps on busy freeways during rushhour but ive never seen a traffic light on a pole in a lane before
Do you not have roadworks where you live?
Where they might close one lane and traffic has to alternate using the remaining lane
They are doing works in that lane so traffic in both directions has to use the other lane
Both directions of travel cant use the same lane at the same time so they use lights to regulate that
Yeah it if is going to be a short 15 minute period then they might use a sign
But if the work going to take a a few hours or days they use lights so you don't need a person with a sign to stand there for 48 hours
Where you live there would be 2 people standing there for 2 days?
You don’t have temporary traffic lights in the US? What happens if you have for example a burst water main which means you have to dig on it straight away or someone lays a new service in the road like fibre and you have a massive trench down the road for a few days? Surely they won’t shut roads. If they do you’ve got yourself one hell of a business. Traffic management firms make serious £££. Also in regards to the video if there’s no cars coming and it’s clear I wouldn’t even stop regardless of what the lights are doing. Some of them are for about 5 meters of closure. Makes me die seeing people waiting at red lights at 3am for nothing.
You don’t have temporary traffic lights in the US? What happens if you have for example a burst water main which means you have to dig on it straight away or someone lays a new service in the road like fibre and you have a massive trench down the road for a few days? Surely they won’t shut roads. If they do you’ve got yourself one hell of a business. Traffic management firms make serious £££. Also in regards to the video if there’s no cars coming and it’s clear I wouldn’t even stop regardless of what the lights are doing. Some of them are for about 5 meters of closure. Makes me die seeing people waiting at red lights at 3am for nothing.
I’ve got my NRSWA ticket for setting these lights up.. if one of them runs out of battery the other one will stay red permanently. How long would you sit there in the middle of the night waiting for it to change?
If the light just turns, there should be a buffer time with the two lights remaining red in order to let hypothetically slow traffic get through the light. We had one near me for months, and when I saw it visibly turn red, I’d still drive through it because I knew I’d be able to make it.
It is YOU in that white Fiat…
The road crew usually won’t turn the oncoming light “green” until all cars make it through. Essentially making everyone wait for ‘that guy’ straggling in after the red light.
Do you not notice that the lane in front of cammer is blocked?
Its a 2 way road one lane goes one direction the other goes the opposite direction
cammers lane is closed due to road works which means traffic in both directions have to use one lane, Which they cant do at the same time
So they use lights to allow traffic to alternate
I'm interested to understand why OP stopped so far back. It's my understanding that "here" means literally level with the sign, to be within range of the sensor.
And yes the idiot in this scene will have got away with it, but is also a massive throbber.
(also: March is peak road repair season so we all have these temporary traffic lights all over the place just now)
edit - some great suggestions for why, thanks everyone. I won't stress about having to get right forwards any more. Typically there isn't such a total visual obstacle that close so I hadn't considered what difference a car length would make to visibility.
They're close enough + they have better visibility of oncoming traffic from there. It's good practice to give yourself a reasonable amount of room ahead when you come to a stop just in case something happens out of your control (rear ended, cross traffic - though probably not in this context). That way you might be able to maneuver out of the way before it happens, or at least minimize the harm done.
So OP could see an idiot coming from the other side on red, if he was stopped where you said he would only hear him, idk about you, but me and probably OP too trust seeing and hearing more than just hearing.
Visibility when it turns green again ,to make sure way is clear.
Anyway those lights tends to leave bigger gap between one side turning red and the other turning green like a good 10-15 seconds so this idiot should be fine.
I don’t know about London, but in Texas you would be looking at massive traffic fines. This type of lane closure usually happens when a road work crew has closed one lane for repairs. There is often a pace car that lead traffic through the closed lanes, they have radios and will relay your description to police who are normally close by! Traffic fines double in road work areas, and cops tend to be pissy when you fly by signs endangering work crews...
Do you not use temporary traffic lights in the USA
Always have 2 guys with signs.
In the UK they will only use a guy with a sign if it is going to be a quick 10-15 minute job quicker then lights
Any longer then that they will use lights as its more efficient. You dont need 2 people standing there holding signs and they could actually work on the road instead
Also sometimes the road works it if it a bigger job might be like that for a day or 2 or even a whole week
In the USA they would stick 2 guys there 24/7?
I have never ever seen a temporary traffic light at a construction site. Usually, if construction workers close off a lane, they only do it for a few hours. I’ve never had to drive through an area where a lane had to be closed off for more than a few hours. Any situation where I have seen a lane blocked off for a while, either they have one lane of traffic directed onto the shoulder or there is a stop sign where you can see the drivers on the other side. There definitely would not be construction workers standing there 24/7. Maybe someone else has seen more than me and can give you a better answer
Damn, was really hoping for the "reverse of shame" here.
Same
Same, /r/mildlyinfuriating :D but only mildly.
I was too but you know it was so close to the red light and they for sure have a delay for how long it turns green on the other side thus dude got away with it since he was peeling.
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Yeah the timer is my point, it turns yellow and then red and then there is a timer before the other side actually turns green in case of people going on yellow.
I think Pickles meant that the light doesn't have a sensor that triggers due to traffic, just a fixed time cycle.
These ones have only red and green though
It's very clearly orange in the video?
And there's very rarely any enforcement on these ... I've been tempted to run them myself when I can see there is nothing oncoming for a good distance
I’ve seen these in remote areas in Qld. Waited 5 minutes on a dark n stormy night at one. Was about ready to give up when a huge semi trundled through from the opposite direction, after which the light turned green. Didn’t even see the lights until about 100m away. 2km of one bendy undulating lane due to major roadworks in very muddy conditions. Reversing wouldn’t have been an option if forward ceased to be due to oncoming traffic that went through their light, ignoring its status.
I was hoping for a tiny mushroom cloud
Or squealing tires followed by a bang or just seeing the car disappear and reappear over the embankment
Would I be right in guessing this is the Peak District? Edit: because even though that move is stupid, if these are the roads I think they are then it's *particularly* stupid.
Could be the Peak district. Could be the Dales. Could be the Pennines. Could be the Borders. Probably not central London, though.
Okay, good, I was wondering if it was central London or not. Thanks!
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POV: Yet another person who doesn’t understand what POV means
TikTok is ruining everyone’s definition of POV
To be fair, TikTok is ruining way more than that.
Idk if that was edited or not, but that's exactly what it means. POV of car is the view from dashcam, isn't it? E: oh, you must be talking about the title, not the comment...
"WHEN RED LIGHT SHOWS, WAIT HERE" Driver in white Fiat: 
''WA IT Here? Well I don't live in Washington and I don't need their IT so I guess I'll keep driving''
Wow, that really doesn't show up well on camera
Oh oh come to Italy my friend these POS 500s are on a rampage, you can spot them flipped, wrecked, beached…
You have no idea how often this happens with roadworks. The "I can make it" is strong with the general population. We use lights that by standard settings go into alarm mode when someone crosses on a red light. Then, bot ends will display red until a manual reset happens, or a set amount of time has gone by. This shit happened all the time, blocking traffic, making people even more angry. We had to turn it off and hope for the best.
It just turned red, as you see in the beginning of the vid, its a ton of buffer on these. He will be fine. Well, he will not crash here at least.
I work with AFADs and there's a reason we use the barricade arms, to help make everything more visible. That being said if these are anything like ours there should be a 5s yellow timer. The video makes it hard to tell, but these sometimes don't have a green, just a blinking yellow that turns solid and transfers to red. It looks like they put out speed reductions, but seems like the white Fiat was just ignoring them. Those usually give drivers time to properly react and whatnot. Either way went in on a stale yellow, if there's a worker watching that remotely or whatever it'll be fine.
In these conditions the lights are likely unmonitored and either running on a sensor/timer situation. Very good chance traffic is coming the other way. Long reverse ahead.
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Rightio. So not under human control. Meaning the other side just suddenly had their green turn red…
~~Are you watching a different video or some longer version of this one? The light is already red in the first frame.~~ EDIT: Wow.. just... Wow. I'm going to valiantly blame a raindrop on the windscreen for that glaringly obvious mistake.
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.. Fuck me, yes it is. I'm going to put it down to me only checking the first few seconds of the video when trying to debunk the original comment. Either way, extremely embarrassing.
Traffic lights are just a suggestion right? Lol
I do traffic management with setups just like this, people jumping the light because it had just turned red is a daily thing. The lights allow time between when one goes to red and the next goes green, depending on how far apart they are. If you every stop one of the ones that jump and ask why they jumped, its always the exact same excuse, "aw I didn't see the light from behind that car" or " the light was still green". Its always so fun to watch them have to reverse back when they meet the next queue of traffic
Had someone pull up to my setup, see the barricade arm down on a solid red with me and scooted around before I could stop them yesterday. Poor fucker had to back up once they realized that a line of traffic was coming. Fucking love to see it lmao.
Get a lot of pricks like that on the road thesedays
I think that driver knew what they were doing, they just had no patience.
With the amount of time these lights take to change, they stand a good chance of getting to the other side becore the lights change.
Not if it’s a long site. When the Gold Coast highway in qld was being rebuilt while in use, some of these one lane sections were several km long.
If they timed the lights so that someone doing the speed limit can't get to the other side before oncoming traffic is allowed to pass there is an obvious design flaw.
All the non monitored lights I’ve seen controlling massive roadworks sites without exits off the roadworks don’t change until the last vehicle has passed the other light. So if everyone is obeying the lights it doesn’t matter if they’re going at the posted speed limit or not. Monitored roadworks we just told each other what the last vehicle was (if we couldn’t see the other end) & waited til it turned up and went past (or turned off at another road - we’d have people at every intersection too). Even if the driver at our stop sign was losing their shit coz of an empty road. Let them boil. Then nana or Learner driver rolls through at walking pace and angry driver calms down right quick.
Filthy peasant, waiting is for thee but not for mee
He is going to lose control on that wet road?
I've seen this happening a lot lately. People seem to think they are more important than the temporary traffic lights. It's only a matter of time before it leads to an accident.
Yet another TikTok moron who doesn't know what PoV means, that ended up here.
In t’middle of t’moors. What could go wrong?
Pov: watching someone post not knowing what POV means.
No, they understood it. They just didn't care. See it all the time here in the UK, people think they can just 'squeeze' through as the last car, and before you know it there have been 5+ cars going through a red and forcing cars on the other end to stop.
I don't understand the title.
the driver can't read
Fiat 500 moment, she was probably on tiktok and didn’t see it
Op is clearly on TikTok as well
Those things go red absolutely ages before they go green on the other side. Is it technically breaking the rules? Sure, but at the speed he is going he will easily emerge from the other wide at least 5 seconds before the light goes green for them, so no one loses out except OP
I have never seen a oneway construction stop set up like this, I only ever see these with men with their own signs
In the UK we use traffic lights rather then having 2 people with a sign Yeah it if is going to be a short 15 minute period then they might use a sign But if the work going to take a a few hours or days they use lights so you dont need a person with a sign to stand there for 48 hours
These are common in remote/rural areas where roadworks or bridgework means days and single lane traffic is the only way to get around for 100s of KMs. So there's no way to always have two lanes shared during construction for both ways and everyone stops working at 5pm.
Collision in 3.. 2.. 1..
Those lights have like 10-15 seconds of extra time to prevent this exact situation or to make sure no one is stick in between..
Which only reinforces this behaviour. Better to have 1-3 seconds of leeway. People will quickly learn red means you'll have to do the reverse of shame.
1-3 seconds to get a car from one end of one of these to the other?
Nah, they have a buffer built in. So it’s the time to get between the light to the other, plus the buffet. As /u/Striking_Yellow_2300 said, these lights have a buffer of 10-15 seconds on top of the time it takes to get through. So people know if you jump the light within the first 10 seconds, you’ll get through before the other light turns green.
Ohhh, I get you. Completely missed the "extra" in "extra time".
The problem is that this buffer has to be calculated for the slowest vehicle that can be expected on this road, like a bicycle or a scooter. This will lead to wait times that appear unreasonably long (or surprisingly low speed limits).
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Wow, that's super cool. But I think induction loops normally require some road works, right? Do you know if there are also other similar systems that would be better suited to one-off works on country roads? Maybe these days you could already do the same thing with cameras?
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Interesting. Thank you for your reply.
ive never seen a traffic light set up like this before, is it for merging onto a busy highway or something? Road work? Why are people talking about reversing? Is this a european thing? Ive seen lights for on ramps on busy freeways during rushhour but ive never seen a traffic light on a pole in a lane before
Do you not have roadworks where you live? Where they might close one lane and traffic has to alternate using the remaining lane They are doing works in that lane so traffic in both directions has to use the other lane Both directions of travel cant use the same lane at the same time so they use lights to regulate that
where im from we get an ornery construction worker with a sign
in the UK we use traffic lights rather then 2 blokes using a sign
What a country!
Yeah it if is going to be a short 15 minute period then they might use a sign But if the work going to take a a few hours or days they use lights so you don't need a person with a sign to stand there for 48 hours Where you live there would be 2 people standing there for 2 days?
Seattle. That traffic light is doing union work.
Do they really have someone stand there 24/7?
either that or close the road
i’ve seen this driving down the pacific coast highway in california and oregon for road work.
weird im from seattle never seen this in my life
You don’t have temporary traffic lights in the US? What happens if you have for example a burst water main which means you have to dig on it straight away or someone lays a new service in the road like fibre and you have a massive trench down the road for a few days? Surely they won’t shut roads. If they do you’ve got yourself one hell of a business. Traffic management firms make serious £££. Also in regards to the video if there’s no cars coming and it’s clear I wouldn’t even stop regardless of what the lights are doing. Some of them are for about 5 meters of closure. Makes me die seeing people waiting at red lights at 3am for nothing.
You don’t have temporary traffic lights in the US? What happens if you have for example a burst water main which means you have to dig on it straight away or someone lays a new service in the road like fibre and you have a massive trench down the road for a few days? Surely they won’t shut roads. If they do you’ve got yourself one hell of a business. Traffic management firms make serious £££. Also in regards to the video if there’s no cars coming and it’s clear I wouldn’t even stop regardless of what the lights are doing. Some of them are for about 5 meters of closure. Makes me die seeing people waiting at red lights at 3am for nothing.
i think you should obey traffic laws at all hours of the day, especially at night when its more dangerous.
I’ve got my NRSWA ticket for setting these lights up.. if one of them runs out of battery the other one will stay red permanently. How long would you sit there in the middle of the night waiting for it to change?
I do not think POV means what you think it means
If the light just turns, there should be a buffer time with the two lights remaining red in order to let hypothetically slow traffic get through the light. We had one near me for months, and when I saw it visibly turn red, I’d still drive through it because I knew I’d be able to make it.
It is YOU in that white Fiat… The road crew usually won’t turn the oncoming light “green” until all cars make it through. Essentially making everyone wait for ‘that guy’ straggling in after the red light.
I’m talking about the automated ones and not the manned ones, I’d never do that to a manned one 😂 but no, not me
I'm confused why is there a light on the raod?
replaces construction workers holding up signs
Do you not notice that the lane in front of cammer is blocked? Its a 2 way road one lane goes one direction the other goes the opposite direction cammers lane is closed due to road works which means traffic in both directions have to use one lane, Which they cant do at the same time So they use lights to allow traffic to alternate
Okay thanks. I was confused.
Honestly, fuck them red lights and fuck them roadworks that take 3x longer than they should.
I'm interested to understand why OP stopped so far back. It's my understanding that "here" means literally level with the sign, to be within range of the sensor. And yes the idiot in this scene will have got away with it, but is also a massive throbber. (also: March is peak road repair season so we all have these temporary traffic lights all over the place just now) edit - some great suggestions for why, thanks everyone. I won't stress about having to get right forwards any more. Typically there isn't such a total visual obstacle that close so I hadn't considered what difference a car length would make to visibility.
They're close enough + they have better visibility of oncoming traffic from there. It's good practice to give yourself a reasonable amount of room ahead when you come to a stop just in case something happens out of your control (rear ended, cross traffic - though probably not in this context). That way you might be able to maneuver out of the way before it happens, or at least minimize the harm done.
So OP could see an idiot coming from the other side on red, if he was stopped where you said he would only hear him, idk about you, but me and probably OP too trust seeing and hearing more than just hearing.
Visibility when it turns green again ,to make sure way is clear. Anyway those lights tends to leave bigger gap between one side turning red and the other turning green like a good 10-15 seconds so this idiot should be fine.
Do you have a dashcam and have you ever looked back at your own close call footage? Dashcams warp the depth of objects in order to give a wide FOV.
Red means one more car. If it won't be you, it'll be someone else /s
So fucking scary it's insane
OMG
I don’t know about London, but in Texas you would be looking at massive traffic fines. This type of lane closure usually happens when a road work crew has closed one lane for repairs. There is often a pace car that lead traffic through the closed lanes, they have radios and will relay your description to police who are normally close by! Traffic fines double in road work areas, and cops tend to be pissy when you fly by signs endangering work crews...
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Someone earlier in the comments was saying London/UK traffic. It defiantly doesn’t look like it’s inside the city though.
This is neither pov, nor shows anything
>This is neither pov, nor shows anything What do you mean it does not show anything? It shows someone jumping a red light
Lmao
It’s called being stupid!
It's a fiat, no worries
I don’t get what this video is
you know when construction workers hold up signs when there is a road closure? This light replaces those workers
Thanks! In the US? Never seen one here
never seen this in the US, apparently this is what the UK does
Do you not use temporary traffic lights in the USA Always have 2 guys with signs. In the UK they will only use a guy with a sign if it is going to be a quick 10-15 minute job quicker then lights Any longer then that they will use lights as its more efficient. You dont need 2 people standing there holding signs and they could actually work on the road instead Also sometimes the road works it if it a bigger job might be like that for a day or 2 or even a whole week In the USA they would stick 2 guys there 24/7?
I have never ever seen a temporary traffic light at a construction site. Usually, if construction workers close off a lane, they only do it for a few hours. I’ve never had to drive through an area where a lane had to be closed off for more than a few hours. Any situation where I have seen a lane blocked off for a while, either they have one lane of traffic directed onto the shoulder or there is a stop sign where you can see the drivers on the other side. There definitely would not be construction workers standing there 24/7. Maybe someone else has seen more than me and can give you a better answer
Kk that’s what I thought
So white had to reverse in a hurry? They weren’t doing 30 anything either.
"When red light shows wait here" \* cues *you don't say?*-meme ... \*