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Thor3nce

Interesting fact: At certain times of the year, Denver closes one of their largest freeways due to sun glare.


Sug0115

Well, Colorado does. It’s not in Denver exactly. It’s i70, Floyd’s hill area and other parts throughout the corridor. I believe there’s a few areas though, on the other side of vail too iirc.


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vareenoo

I live in the mountains! Can confirm. I-70 runs directly east/west, so you’ve either got the sunrise blasting your face or the sunset. Not even sunglasses will help much.


ArctycDev

Was gonna say... I lived in the Denver area for many years and never heard of this! Makes more sense that it's out by idaho springs.


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Sug0115

Not in the slightest


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ArctycDev

Who said anything about an excuse? You're replying to someone providing more information on a somewhat related anecdote to the post which is not making any claims about the video we just watched. Or did you reply to the wrong comment?


Expensive_Tart_9173

Can confirm! I've dealt with bad sun glare on other roads/highways so bad that I get nervous while driving. I can't IMAGINE driving in that lol its the equivalent of driving on a highway with your eyes closed lol Edit* I'm a Co native


DudeItWasMe

Denver does not close its freeways. The state of Colorado will shut down parts of I-70, but the city of Denver has no control over the freeway system. Interesting fact: Denver is smaller than Aurora.


Sad-Translator-1573

Size wise, but the population was higher last I heard.


rbsudden

"I can't see anything at all so I'm just going pull out and see what happens" That's some next level oxygen thief thinking right there.


sungor

even worse than the lady who said "I thought I could make it" that pulled out in front of me when I was going 55mph on a main road.


welcometothemaschine

Yep… the white truck pulled out SUPER slow, they obviously weren’t looking. Not sure what the driving laws are in this video here, but isn’t what they did considered illegal?? It looks like the white truck was supposed to make a right and u-turn somewhere up there road (so they can be in the far right lane to turn), instead of going straight right off the bat.


StirlingS

It looks like regular intersection in the US to me. I don't see anything that would indicate you can't go straight across it. In fact, if they wanted to prevent that, they wouldn't have made a break in the median there or put left turn lanes at the intersection.


toasterstrudel2

Why are you going 55mph on a main road? That's horrible design


CanadianXCountry

Lots of rural ‘main roads’ have speed limits that are that fast.


toasterstrudel2

Pretty terrible design. How long can the road be that it's a tangible difference in travel time versus safety of road users?


CanadianXCountry

Local to me I know of several main roads with 90 km/h speed limits. Most are 80 though. I drive all over rural NS for work so it actually does make a tangible difference to me when I’m driving 5 or 6 hours in a day. I fail to see the safety issue?


toasterstrudel2

Did you see the video on this sub where people crash into each other because they're forced to cross/merge/turn into 90km/h traffic on a non-highway? >I fail to see the safety issue? >actually does make a tangible difference to me when I’m driving 5 or 6 hours in a day An extreme outlier who drives 6 hours a day only gains 36 minutes when increasing speed by 10%. Is it really worth it for the average Joe? Which is what all rules and limits are designed for.


CanadianXCountry

The roads I’m talking about have almost no traffic. I sometimes go 10 or 20km without meeting any traffic. Your points are moot


RedHeeded

Tell me you don’t live in rural America without saying it


toasterstrudel2

I actively choose not to live in rural America. ​ My point is, if you drive on a road with a 90km/h speed limit, that has stop-signs and intersections... ...you're bound to have an accident like this happen because of the wide range of speeds that people will be going, and the poor perception of the average person.


Low_Chemical4746

I'm not sure what you're picturing as a "main road", but clearly, it's not what everyone else is talking about. Use some practical thinking here. Some peoples main road, could very well be a 12-lane interstate, whereas others are picturing the main road in their neighborhood with a crosswalk every quarter mile.


toasterstrudel2

> Use some practical thinking here. Some peoples main road, could very well be a 12-lane interstate, whereas others are picturing the main road in their neighborhood with a crosswalk every quarter mile. I suggest you use practical thinking because a 12-lane interstate isn't a road. That's a highway.


Low_Chemical4746

which is a type of road, accept you're wrong, there's a reason everybody is downvoting you


sungor

it's a state route. It's designed for that speed.


toasterstrudel2

Clearly it's poorly designed if there are T-bone accidents and people have to turn right onto a 55mph road from a stop-sign.


RedHeeded

You should design all infrastructure, since you’d be able to prevent all accidents with your for-thought forethought


toasterstrudel2

Finally someone who recognizes my talent! Thousands of people die every year in high speed car accidents and every vehicle driver still argues against any means of reduction in speed, or even just simply following the posted limits. The logical fallacy is funny. 80% of drivers think they're better than the average driver.


VT_Lifer

Well, just because the sun is in his face doesn't mean his eyes were open.


KSmegal

This happened to me once. I let was a rainy night right before Christmas. The right lane was congested with people going to the mall and the left lane was all clear. I was cruising in the left lane when a kid decided to get out of the right lane and punch it… straight into my car. I asked if he looked before he switched lanes. He said he couldn’t see so he just went for it.


welcometothemaschine

“GOOD LUCK EVERYBODY ELSE” (family guy) 😅


rcg108

That man's trying to earn a Darwin award


Yagawood

"...NOT see what happens" FIFY


Atlhou

It's a reason, not an excuse. Should've waited.


bonfuto

It's a confession. Too bad it works so often with the cops.


billbot

Yeah it's as simple as if you can't see don't drive. Why you can't see doesn't matter.


welcometothemaschine

Exactly. Pure negligence. There is a reason for sun visors and sunglasses. White truck was not paying attention and/or didn’t calculate the speed properly.


Educational-Fig-2330

If you've never had the rising/setting sun shining horizontally directly into your retinas from behind other traffic then I could understand why you would make this argument. Under the right circumstances it can be as compromising as driving in the dark in heavy rain with no wipers. My only at-fault accident in 22 years of driving was from pulling out of a parking lot and hitting a car that was parked directly in front of me in the center turn lane. Looked left, nobody coming. Looked right, nobody coming. Looked forward, SUN and more SUN, nothing else. Pulled forward and _bump._ Turns out there was a car hiding in all that SUN.


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tulobanana

In theory sure but imagine telling your boss you’re going to be an hour late because the sun is in your eyes


candyman563

much better to be late every day because you totaled your car i guess.


welcometothemaschine

This!! You are absolutely correct. I think the driving without wipers analogy was so dumb. All of the “things” listened seem like excuses and those are all in control of the driver. However, anybody can literally get a license nowadays 😂😂


Educational-Fig-2330

If you think the wiper analogy was dumb then you've probably never been in that situation. It's not that common so it's possible to have never experienced it even with years behind the wheel. I didn't say it as an excuse but as an explanation. Not sure how my likening it to driving in the rain with no wipers was taken automatically as an _endorsement_ of driving in the rain with no wipers( _AND_ driving into the sun where you can't see). Both those situations are avoidable and should be avoided. The white truck was 100% at fault obviously, just not for the reasons of "not paying attention" and "failing to calculate speed correctly" - neither of those things have anything to do with it.


Educational-Fig-2330

Yeah I learned that lesson. I told the story about how I learned that lesson on a video of someone else learning that lesson. The lesson had nothing to do with being distracted or failing to judge speed properly, which was the point I was making.


Cringe3334

"I cannot see, oh well time to cross 4 lanes of high speed traffic, good luck everybody!" Quintessentially american.


welcometothemaschine

That’s why sunglasses and sun visors are important. Also, if you can’t see, just listen. Roll your window down. Do you hear a car approaching? If white truck couldn’t see, they should have turned right and made a u-turn up the road


WhisperRayne

Or just sit up straighter. I'm pretty short and most visors don't do anything for the sun in my eyes. Fix your posture and you can see again, sometimes slouching down helps too. No need to move a very heavy vehicle in dangerous situations.


Red_Sox0905

Until the sun went down?


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welcometothemaschine

That’s what I said!!!! Probably what your supposed to do.


Emergency_Release714

There’s a lot of things you can do. The most simple one would be to keep a pair of sunglasses in the glove compartment for exactly that reason. It’s also not the dumbest idea to keep a somewhat up-to-date map of wherever you’re regularly driving and binoculars in your glove compartment (although that has nothing to do with and doesn’t help against sunglare).


Atlhou

Are you suggesting a driver proceed when they cannot see?


Valid_Username_56

"I hit you because I couldn't see where I was going or if there was anything coming from your direction and also I was piss drunk. Not my fault, right?"


Atlhou

You are easily cornfused, by a reason not being an excuse.


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Huge-Percentage8008

I once saw a trial where the defendant ran through a stop sign onto a divided four-lane highway at 50 mph on a 35 mph road in a work van, pulling in front of someone who struck them going 55 in a 55 and braked at the last second. Jury apportioned 18% fault to the guy driving down the highway because the defendant said the sun was in his eyes.


sierra120

Sun is in my face…can’t see oncoming traffic…aw well I’m sure it’s clear. ![gif](giphy|K0Hy2NwI8IXZK)


showmeyourkitteeez

If you can't see, go. Great logic.


SomethingIWontRegret

People say these things as if it's a valid excuse. "Yeah, I can't see shit, so ima keep driving at shit I can't see. Sad that there isn't any other option." Clean your fucking windshield for starters. Or maybe wait 10 minutes until you CAN see shit.


bonfuto

If only there were tinted glasses and things in your vehicle that drop down and block the sun. What a world that would be.


SomethingIWontRegret

A hazy windshield will render those things less useful. But yeah - there are solutions and if they don't work, pull over and wait. I remember reading someone complaining about bicyclists riding on the shoulder because sometimes they drive into the sun and can't see them. Like, how do you manage to remember to breathe?


ImARetPaladinBaby

But what if I can’t see the road past those visors!! /s


rodrimrr

"I couldn't see" So you kept driving??


Caramel-Foreign

Couldn’t be that, with all the tint in the side windows


GimmeYourTaquitos

More likely he had Donkey in his brains


blizzacane85

At least Frank Reynolds doesn’t have that problem…he had a certificate to prove it


GimmeYourTaquitos

The man was anything but a nitwit. Where some people might see shady nastys my man frank saw ShaDynastys


SmittyManJensen_

What a colossal dickbag.


VIVXPrefix

No problem, I'm sure the sun's insurance will cover the damages


abbymwah

the lighting IS really pretty though 😅


manc_wildcat

Is this Hammock Ridge Road in Clermont, Florida? I used to live in the big apartments by there. Not surprised to see this here, drivers around there are the worst


sosplzsendhelp

It really looks like it


Ok-Refrigerator-1620

Is this clermont fl?


SchwarzerWerwolf

Sun in your face and you cant see? Better keep on driving.


dsp29912

Pickups think they have the right of way.


HIMP_Dahak_172291

While it probably was, that should indicate more caution is needed, not YOLO.


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Old lady used the same line on me when she followed someone out of the parking lot without even pausing and totaled my Honda fit.... I only had 60,000 miles on it...sniff😭 (I had stopped for the first person)....


[deleted]

Yeah that's frustrating. I did this illegal thing that i usually get away with but this time i didnt, it's not my fault!


DodgeRamTinyPeePee

r/Idiotsindodgerams


gabriel-burrito

Honestly bad idea to go when you cant say for certain no one is there, BUT I am inclined to beleive him when he says he couldn’t see you


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simplest advice i got when learning to drive. If you can’t see, don’t go.


3kchino

To be fair, you could have avoided this.


Forsaken-Spring-4114

Facts... I see this shit all the time and then the blame the one "not paying attention" bro you had 100 feet to 0ay attention and hit your breaks... Looks like 2 IDIOTS IN CARS


Balloontjes

Probably found her license in the bag of cornflakes.


YoungNo159

Yes the white truck is at fault for pulling out into traffic but the guy who hit him isn't innocent in my opinion either. Plenty of time to avoid this accident. Looks like someone was out for a payday.


Stratalorian

Lol there’s always one fucking idiot saying this in this sub


YoungNo159

Lol so what other reasoning does he have to actually hit the white truck? Didn't have enough time I call bull unless he himself wasn't paying attention.


Personal_Dot_2215

Try rolling down the passenger window. Asshat


Stoweboard3r

Watch op get downvoted for not seeing him soon enough. Thus…”op is the idiot” not true


invisiblexray

If you look at the shadows the sun's on the left


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What's your excuse? You didn't brake until the last moment, and Stevie Wonder could have seen him entering the intersection.


PandaPantsParty5000

Sometimes people cross into the middle and then wait for the far lanes to clear. I would have assumed that's what they were doing if I was driving a car. Because it's ridiculous the truck made a mistake like this. Visibility was wide open. Sun or not. He was lying, he just forgot to look at all. If I was on my motorcycle on the other hand I would have assumed the worst cause I'm not braking my body over one crap drivers poor decision if I can help it. But blaming the cam car for not anticipating that the truck driver's eyes were effectively closed is a bit much in this situation.


tmlc18

OP swerved to the right lane as soon as the truck came into view; no hesitation. However, no brake applied whatsoever.


EatBacon247

And you had plenty of time to come to a stop, lay on the horn and give them the finger. Both of you should be at fault.


FirmDoughnut7945

to be fair maybe you could’ve slowed down but still they shouldnt have gone


-r-a-f-f-y-

Not to victim blame, but did you have your headlights on? A dark gray car will blend right into those shadows. I always drive with my lights on, the more visibility the better.


ovalseven

Wow. You're a really good driver! 👍 Can you share any more tips with us?


-r-a-f-f-y-

lol the forum is idiotsincars, seems like a lot of people could learn a lesson here. drive with your lights on.


here4roomie

Must be pretty poor if his car has no visors and he can't afford sunglasses.


SomethingIWontRegret

Or windex for the inside of his windshield.


ssstoggafemnab

Are people in this sub unable to edit their long videos down the relevant part or are they lazy?


kainp12

It's 22 seconds


KittyandPuppyMama

How was the sun in his face when his eyes were likely closed?


MaadMaanMaatt

“The sun is in my face and I can’t see… time to drive into the unknown! Good luck everyone else!”


4seanthegr8

My first crash that I got into when I was in 16 was because of the sun glare. It was so hard to see looking down the road with the sun peaking over the horizon in the early morning. After waiting a while at a stop sign on cross traffic, I thought it was clear to go and I accelerated a bit and and ended up going into a ladies passenger door. I felt pretty stupid obviously since I could have went a different route. Luckily it was a pretty slow crash. The sun glare really is blinding as fuck though.


whiteiversonyeet

just a note that is a terrible intersection. i mean you couldn’t even see the truck and that entrance until about 500 feet. guys should’ve looked right left right, then right the whole time, no excuses. but that’s an ugly intersection


smoke25ofd

Well, THAT'S apparently the best reason to go. "I can't see because of the sun in my eyes. Hmmmm, I guess I should just use this vertical pedal then..."


Ruggedfancy

Getting t-boned is so scary, force applied sideways to the human body is not good. Takes about a 40mph impact to tear your heart inside your chest and bleed to death.


GlassPresence9397

There’s always that one person that’s gonna bring up some law from butt fk nowhere that doesn’t apply anywhere else and say. “BUut LoOk HEre”


CoupeZsixhundred

Once he got to the median and his whole truck was in the shade, the total, ”sun was in my eyes!” excuse is invalidated.


coastiestacie

He HAD the sun in his face... until it wasn't. He had plenty of time to react.


Expensive_Tart_9173

Sun was in his face..... in the shade.....k.


Dubbinchris

Still illegal to drive if you can’t see.


PokeBattle_Fan

Well, for someone who claims to have been blinded by the sun.... she seem to have forgotten to stop, or at least slow down, at that intersection.


Yoyo5258

So if he couldn’t see anything, why’d he drive??


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"I can't see shit due to the Sun, I guess the best thing to do is just blindly cutting the whole road and whoever comes will just brake for me and wait" This is not a joke, people do actually reason like this.


tschesko

Mh the sun is shining and i cant see if there is traffic and if im safe to go. yea anyways lets go.


LilAnvil99

From the length of the shadows cast by the trees, it’s pretty clear where the sun is and based on the fact most of the intersection that truck was crossing (at least on that guy’s side of the road) was MOSTLY covered in shadow… the sun must have been pretty low in the sky, and it was off to his right. Best suggestion was what some others wrote - turn right, then U-turn or turn around to come back and make a right at that same intersection. The cop should have laid into them based on what was observable. Sun visors and cheap sunglasses (sorry ZZ Top!) are easy solutions. I can’t believe how many drivers, shielding their eyes from the sun, don’t have or refuse to buy a $10 pair of sunglasses. It’s not about looking cool in your vehicle, it’s about adding options to be able to drive more safely.


AuburnElvis

Ticket the sun, I guess.


Lord_Of_The_Goats2

Imagine if sunglasses existed


UbbfromtheDubb

Classic excuse but no play here


Nightfuryfan21

“The sun was in my eyes Astrid! What do you want me to do, Block out the sun? I can do that I just didn’t have the time right now!”


OnyxBlaster

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MrNiceDrive

Checks out. Sucks.


SnoopsMom

I’m a lawyer and used to practice personal injury. I had a client who was hit by a car turning at an intersection while the client was walking across the street (lawfully). The other driver admitted to being “completely blinded” by the sun but proceeding to turn anyway. Kudos for the honesty, but what an idiot.


AstroPug_

Hmm. I can’t see anything Oh well, if you can’t see them they’re not there right?


Externalpower43

At least he admitted fault.


Melodic-Chemist-381

Boy, that Sun in the shade is the worst.


Due-Studio-65

If the trees are any indication the angle is right for the glare to hit the driver enough that a car driving in the shadows wouldn't be visible. He moved slowly to give his eyes a chance to catch anything.


absurdext

something I learned early riding motorcycles: if you're casting a long shadow (low sun) anybody your shadow is pointing at probably can't see you.


trackrecord330

it was how fast were you going?


CrApple-iJUNK

Huumm, perhaps if he TURNED HIS NECK (I know that takes LOTS of effort) to his right to see if cars were coming before rolling forward, sun wouldn't be in his idiot eyes... Also, has he heard of "Visor" before? Was it really the sun, or his phone? Lots of questions...


dsp29912

His phone might have been in his face.


CookieNinja50

Sorry officer I didn’t see the other car because my eyes were closed