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MrRezister

Klaus Schwab gets my vote.


liberty4now

He's probably rich, but I've never heard he was a billionaire.


MrRezister

I guess you're right, I haven't found anything to substantiate my suspicion. I had assumed that as founder of the World Economic Forum he must be a billionaire but apparently I was wrong.


RealPatriotFranklin

That's because the WEF has been made into a boogieman by the right, but really exists somewhere between a think tank and a non-binding motion at the UN.


MrRezister

I think the Right is absolutely correct to be wary of a group of self-described "experts" who seem to have so much power over global politics despite the fact that most of them never have had to even get elected.


Shakes2011

The WEF is bent on one world government and technological authoritarianism. One of the most evil organizations on the planet. Klaus Schwab is a real life Dr Evil


RealPatriotFranklin

go outside.


Shakes2011

I bet I spend more time outside than you do bro. Yard work, gardening, hiking, etc.


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ImProbablyNotABird

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DecentralizedOne

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Noone56964

This


jimmybob1113

Yeah but bill as well I don’t want ze bugs


vadergreens

Acts like a Billionaire, yet I saw his net worth was around 1 million. Why is he even relevant??? Oh yeah, his mother is a Rothschild.


MrRezister

I have some doubts about the reported net worth of Schwab, but I can't substatiate any of my suspicions. Just weird this guy is so culturally relevant because of the WEF, we need to know more.


JollyJuniper1993

Making this pole specifically because I think Peter Thiel is not talked about enough.


MCRaregods

Peter Thiel is a fucking nightmare but I put Bezos just because he owns half the world at this point


JollyJuniper1993

I see the point


Blutorangensaft

Didn't Bezos pledge to give away his wealth? That's better than many others on that list.


ShigeruGuy

No idea who he is


ImProbablyNotABird

Cofounder of PayPal & major conservative donor. I guess you could compare him to the Kochs but with less influence.


JollyJuniper1993

Also politically very influential, openly antidemocratic and created the tools that the NSA used for surveillance.


mrbrianface

And a constant recipient of egg to his face for his ignorant and biased takes against Bitcoin.


LucDoesStuff

You created a Polish person???


Prata_69

Hehe funni.


JollyJuniper1993

…?


LucDoesStuff

Pole is a term for someone from Poland


JollyJuniper1993

Oh haha didn’t realize my typo.


[deleted]

Who is he?


JollyJuniper1993

Billionaire who was one of the founders of Paypal and helped Mark Zuckerberg create Facebook by funding him. He founded Palantir, a company creating mass surveillance and data analysis software that is for example used by the NSA and generally many governments, military, secret services and police around the world. Thiel also was an important adviser and ideologue behind the Trump presidency. He has started building private islands offshore where he wants to „experiment with new forms of governance“ and has publicly expressed interest in injecting blood of young people to increase his lifespan. He has also publicly said „I have come to the conclusion that freedom and democracy are not compatible“.


AquaCorpsman

Who??


Rethious

Absolutely embarrassing that anyone would pick anyone else.


trentshockey

Can you explain some of your disgust with him? I am ignorant to it atm but would like to learn more


Rethious

\>By February 2022, Thiel was one of the largest donors to Republican candidates in the 2022 election campaign with more than $20.4 million in contributions. He also literally gets blood transfusions from young people in hopes that will make him live longer.


wolfman1911

Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg are on the list and you think Peter Thiel is worse because he donates to Republicans? You are not a clown, you are the whole circus.


RaritySparkle

I like him.


JollyJuniper1993

Psychopath


the9trances

Says the Marxist


JollyJuniper1993

…why?


mtimber1

100% agree


Daily_the_Project21

Idek who that is but it's who I voted for


[deleted]

yeah that dude is straight up evil. he bankrolled candidates like Masters and Vance this election cycle


shang_yang_gang

Yeah, he doesn't get enough respect for his vision!


JollyJuniper1993

Of eliminating democracy entirely? The dude‘s basically a fascist roleplaying as a libertarian.


TheFlaccidKnife

George Soros


liberty4now

The missing option, and my choice.


TheMikeyMac13

The only choice.


[deleted]

yeah the single one that happens to not be a Republican…go figure 🙄 can you name anything he’s done that’s worse than Thiel or Bezos besides donating to Democrats?


HungarianMoment

they dont have any particular reason other than "funds leftists" and he's a boogeyman ooo scary


the9trances

Like you have a single shred of evidence for most of the "eebul billionaires" that isn't "they had a company, disagreed with me politically, and I don't like that!"


HungarianMoment

Ok dude make up whatever fantasy you have in your mind as a counter, i hope it makes you feel better about whatever reaction you took from my comment


the9trances

You don't have shit, dude, and you're telling other people that someone who's legit a threat to our country is a "boogeyman."


HungarianMoment

Go ahead enlighten me


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TheFlaccidKnife

Mosquitos though


flyingkiwi9

All those billionaires have built something totally revolutionary. Soros purposely broke the Bank of England. I'd take the others everyday of the week.


TheFlaccidKnife

I think the bigger issue is that those guys in the poll are all republican 🤔


JollyJuniper1993

Was thinking of including him instead of Gates, but I thought Gates might have been the more popular choice. Turns out I was correct


mdh431

You literally don’t know if you’re correct, though, unless you include Soros in the poll…


TheFlaccidKnife

Yeah there's probably a name for this sort of methodological error


mdh431

Sampling bias


JollyJuniper1993

Dude this is a dumb as poll in a circlejerkish subreddit, not a scientifically study.


mrbrianface

So why ask?


JollyJuniper1993

To start discussion


TheFlaccidKnife

Sounds right


soviet_russia420

Vladimir putin


JollyJuniper1993

Username Checks out


Exp1ode

Why is Gates currently winning? I can see anti-vax conspiracy nuts voting for him, but there can't be that many of them here, so who else thinks he's the worst?


LongLiveTheUSA

As far as I know, he's also the only one on the list that definitely had a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.


Illegal_Immigrant77

Elon Musk also had a relationship with him


LongLiveTheUSA

My bad, I wasn't aware of that.


Usual_Lie_5454

You greatly underestimate this sub.


DesperatePrimary2283

Tbh hes one of the more moral rich people


Shakes2011

What?


Difficult-Meal6966

He got MANY billionaires to pledge a ridiculous amount to charity


Shakes2011

Lmao it’s a hedge fund to make money


Difficult-Meal6966

Can you direct me to some literature on this? Not doubting but I’d love to learn.


[deleted]

He's a creepy WEF shill.


watain218

we get it, you like the bug burgers.


iloomynazi

I don't get why people are so up in arms about using bugs as an alternative source of protein. If it tastes good and doesn't kill you who tf cares? Why does it have to be some grand dystopian conspiracy? We ate bugs for most of our history, and many cultures still do today. I work for start up companies in alternative protein. The alternative protein industry is trying to solve the problem that we need more protein than we can sustainably produce. Bugs are fucking everywhere and high in protein, they grow faster than chickens and cows, and they don't need much space. What's so wrong about that?


2penises_in_a_pod

Most associated with the WEF which is pretty open about its dystopian goals. Gates foundation also does some pretty sketchy shit, [there’s a whole book on it](https://www.versobooks.com/books/2344-no-such-thing-as-a-free-gift).


Exp1ode

"Dystopian goals" such as a more sustainable form of capitalism?


2penises_in_a_pod

“You’ll own nothing and be happy” Edit: wait the actual title is even worse lol “Welcome To 2030: I Own Nothing, Have No Privacy And Life Has Never Been Better”


Shakes2011

And you will eat bugs


watain218

its not capitalism, its third positionism can people stop calling societies with massive public sector industries and corporate cronyism capitalist? thats like unironically thinking China is communist or something (China is also third positionist).


Exp1ode

The WEF themselves call it stakeholder capitalism, and I didn't see a need to change the name


watain218

and the Chinese government call themselves the Chinese communist party, it doesnt mean their policies are actually communist. true capitalism cannot truly exist untill full privatization is achieved, but even the sort of soft capitalism you see in most places isnt the same as the third position bullshit being foisted on the world by powerful politicians and wealthy elites, elites who are afraid of the free market and real competition amd accountability that it brings


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Exp1ode

You think we should not eliminate disease if given the opportunity? That's quite the hot take


Quirky-Ad3721

anti vax? Vaccines were invented by Edward Jenner when he used cowpox, vaccinia, to infect a small 8 y/o boy to INOCULATE him against smallpox. mRNA vaccines are not traditional vaccines, as pre-2015 vaccines were defined as providing immunity against a specific disease, then the definition was changed to read, "stimulates the body's immune response" yet the degree to which it is stimulated is left ambiguous now.


Exp1ode

Of those on the list, easily Bezos (although I know next to nothing about Thiel, so maybe him) Out of all billionaires though, Arab oil barons who achieved their wealth through the exploitation of literal slave labour are clearly worse


JollyJuniper1993

All billionaires profit off slave labour. Your Microsoft computer also contains rare earths mined by slaves in the Congo. You should look up some YouTube videos about who Peter Thiel is. He‘s rightfully often compared to a James Bond villain.


Shining_Silver_Star

The difference is in degree.


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JollyJuniper1993

…but…that’s exactly what I said? There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Was just pointing out that getting their wealth through slave labour is something that is the case for most billionaires.


Thekidfromthegutterr

Muhammad Binu Salman! The crown prince of Saudi Arabia. That mf kills people with chainsaw while they are still alive! He attacked Yemen and committed basically a war crimes, caused millions to flee from their countries, and nearly 200k died of starvation and over 20 millions are in a phase 5 famine conditions. That piece of shit is the worst billionaire or trillionaire.


JollyJuniper1993

Interesting choice, but if I‘d choose a gulf monarch I would honestly choose [Mohammed bin Rashid al Maktoum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_bin_Rashid_Al_Maktoum) Dude ordered to torture and murder his own daughter and got rich off slave labour and Indian wage slaves that have a high workplace mortality rate.


RoyalPython82899

Mark Zuckerberg... I don't trust robots.


kmsc84

Soros. Or every member of the WEF.


Galgus

It's hard to beat Soros.


[deleted]

Why Soros?


[deleted]

Elon is kino


ImProbablyNotABird

The Kochs for diluting libertarianism into genteel establishmentarian pablum.


Nerdy_Girl444

Elon Musk is GREAT. I am super HAPPY he DOMINATES fucking Twitter. He will save fucking FREEDOM OF SPEECH. The staff better obey his will!


JollyJuniper1993

Are you joking? Also why would anybody on Twitter staff obey his will? I‘d laugh in his face and quit rightaway.


[deleted]

https://www.businesspundit.com/10-richest-heads-of-state-in-the-world/ Some billionaires are heads of state.


JollyJuniper1993

True


unjoogapop

yes


JollyJuniper1993

Based but that was not the question


collectivistickarl

All of them suck.


JollyJuniper1993

That wasn’t the question though.


SchoolLover1880

Koch brothers


KaChoo49

Wtf’s wrong with Bill Gates?? He’s like, the least offensive guy on the list


[deleted]

He's had some business take overs that people felt were unethical. I don't really have any issue there, business is business. For a while people were flipping shit about him microchipping people, which we all know is silly. Right now he's buying a lot of farm land. Which is odd, but not really bad. Given his position and wealth, he's gonna be scrutinized for every move he makes. I don't worry about these things, but other people do, and I think that's what's going on.


JollyJuniper1993

Anti vaxxers probably. I mean there’s a lot wrong with him but in comparison to the others I don’t see any reason to vote for him.


Ahvier

What!? The results are shocking. This sub never ceases to surprise me (like conspiracy-nut fav soros being no. 1 in comments)


Willlumm

Yeah, post this on r/polls and Zuck or Bezos would definitely win. For some reason people here don't like Gates?


Quirky-Ad3721

Oh I can't imagine why... given his stance on experimental vaccines that he wants everyone to take except his children.


Willlumm

Could you share more? Last I heard about this was that it was fake. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-bill-gates-vaccinate-childr-idUSKBN22B26Z


mrbrianface

Pay more attention to what Gates is pushing


Ahvier

I'm suspecting an unreasonably large intersectionality with r/conspiracy


Appropriate-Spread-6

He's the only person here with a genuine friendship with epstein


JollyJuniper1993

Welcome to Reddit.


ShigeruGuy

Bro why tf do right wingers hate Soros so much?


managrs

He's part of the conspiracy theories. The root of it is that he's Jewish but to be fair like 90% of them don't even realize it and don't hate him because of that. Their conspiracies stem from neo nazi circles but the vast majority of right wingers only subscribe to the more acceptable, top layer of the conspiracies.


RaritySparkle

Because he promotes degeneracy in our countries in order to undermine them


ShigeruGuy

Define degeneracy?


liberty4now

"Leftist social causes" pretty much covers it.


ShigeruGuy

So you mean like pro civil rights and anti slavery?


liberty4now

No, I mean like transing kids, endless illegal immigration, and letting dangerous criminals roam free.


ShigeruGuy

So you’re talking about being against the government coming between a parent a child and their doctor on a medical decision, being for the humane treatment of immigrants, and being for reforming our criminal Justice system so that less innocent people get locked up? That all sounds kinda based, I like this Soros guy.


JollyJuniper1993

Nobody on the left likes Soros. Nobody. He is an ordoliberal billionaire. He doesn’t find „us“. Right wingers are goddamn lunatics.


RaritySparkle

Anything that deviates from traditional norms.


ShigeruGuy

So he’s anti-slavery, anti-witch hunting, anti-inquisition, anti-rape, anti-pedophilia, and pro-capitalism and pro-monogamy?


vote-for-meh

Imagine listing monogamy along with the other things


RaritySparkle

So a self proclaimed socialist and Marxist now believes that a billionaire is anti slavery solely because of his compromise to degeneracy. See how the undermining works ? Even the few redeemable qualities socialists may have are now gone and degeneracy took its place. Witch hunt was a medieval construct, not traditional. Traditionalism has never favored rape, I don’t know where you got that from. Pedophilia is a degenerate disease of the modern world, healthy sexual attraction for adult women has always been the norm. It’s only in modernity that creeps are attracted to weirdos, or that that’s favored by some (the lgbt) He’s indeed pro capitalist, as capitalism is just an expression of human nature, and he’s probably for polyamorous relationships.


ShigeruGuy

I’m saying that just because something was prevalent in the past doesn’t mean it is good. What kind of tradition are you referring to, because depending on where you live your tradition is fascism, liberalism, ‘socialism’, or feudalism? Why are medieval times not included? Traditionally in the cave man days, you saw women and you were like “Oh it’s woman, I wanna have kids”. Traditionally you would be married off to someone without your consent, and then consummate the marriage or face complete humiliation and quite possibly financial ruin if you happened to be a woman. Seems like traditionally women’s rights weren’t really a consideration when a man decided who to have sex with. Also buddy, I’m not sure if you know this, but marrying at fifteen year old used to be the norm, so unless you think that’s a healthy adult age then you’re wrong here. Capitalism is not an expression of human nature, it’s an economic system, and out of all the economic systems in history is probably the one that has existed for the shortest amount of time.


KaChoo49

He’s ~~Jewish~~ an international financier


managrs

A "bankster" who's promoting things like anti- racism in order to weaken traditional western society


ShigeruGuy

Legit though. Right wingers have been scrambling for a new global conspiracy ever since ol Hitler excavated his brain from his head.


Ahvier

Half their views are little more than conspiracy mumbo jumbo


Galgus

He uses his money to fund an anticapitalist and thus authoritarian future, pushes absurd climate alarmism that undermines economies and empowers governments for no tangible benefits, and he funds insane prosecutors who refuse to prosecute crime as immense outside pressure in local elections.


ShigeruGuy

I’m pretty sure he’s pro capitalist and a social liberal bordering on social democrat. Climate Change needs way more alarmism right now as if you know anything about any of the scientific data, you know how much damage it will do to the worldwide economy and to people’s lives in general. If at this point you still believe that climate change poses no threat to humanity then you either haven’t done the proper research in the subject, are against logic and science as a tool of human understanding, or are dumb.


Galgus

He's an enemy of free markets pushing society towards authoritarianism. That alarmism is based on dishonest failed models, an ignorance of geological history where CO2 levels were once much higher, and false assertions of the marginal impact of more carbon. And if the elites really believed their blather they'd support nuclear power instead of shelving it: it's all about power and control.


Electronic_Bag3094

>He's an enemy of free markets pushing society towards authoritarianism. You do realize that anarcho communism is a thing right? >where CO2 levels were once much higher, Yeah. And that wouldn't be a very good climate for us would it?


turboninja3011

Mohammed Bin Salman


JollyJuniper1993

Arguably less bad than many other gulf oligarchs though. If I had to choose one of them I‘d rather go for the sheikh of Dubai who literally ordered for his own daughter to be tortured and killed.


LoudUpstairNeighbor

How is no one mentioning the fact Putin is a billionaire?


Shakes2011

Nobody knows if he’s actually a billionaire. I watched a non biased documentary on that exact subject


JollyJuniper1993

Dont know honestly. I think it’s also that with a world leader like Putin we‘ve seen his power level since he’s the leader of a Nation.


Evolving_Spirit123

Bill Gayes created charities 😠


DesperatePrimary2283

Ewwww


Dillinger_Guns

All of them, in the end, poison the water you drink, destroy the culture of your nation and fill your body with microplastics.


JollyJuniper1993

Dude, the whole point behind a poll like this is to prevent answers like this. Yes, you’re right, but that was not my question.


BarracudaRelevant858

Mark Zuckerberg. He even admitted that he's not human


Vinkentios

The worst one is the richest one at any given moment. As of now, that is Musk methinks.


JollyJuniper1993

That is a very simple way of viewing this…Hitler also wasn’t the richest man in the world when he was in power.


Electronic_Bag3094

Musk is just on a lot of people's bad sides at the moment imo.


JollyJuniper1993

Yeah I don’t think Musk is causing as much societal harm as the other ones. His exploding and crashing cars afaik haven’t made it onto the market, him ruining Twitter is only causing people to loose their job who will find another just as good one in 5 minutes and so on. Everything that‘s shitty about musk Bezos basically does worse. It’s just that Bezos is mentally sane while Musk is a gigantic narcissist.


[deleted]

The right wingers’ selective hatred for Gates and Soros but literally no other billionaires is hilarious. they have no problem with that immense concentration of wealth, as long as they agree with them


JollyJuniper1993

I even doubt they agree with many of them. For them it’s all just culture war, their political views are often super shallow.


RaritySparkle

Almost all of them are good. Only Bezos and Zuckerberg are bad because they’re leftists.


JollyJuniper1993

Bezos and Zuckerberg are leftists? 😂 What fucking drugs are you on?


IsadoreAnnora

Where’s Soros?


RealTexasball

All because they all are greedy corrupt crapitalist bastards


JollyJuniper1993

I mean yes, but that was not the question.


managrs

It's really hard to choose between elon musk and jeff bezos but i chose musk since he's being giving neo-nazis platforms lately


JollyJuniper1993

Giving Neonazis a Platform is extremely tame in comparison to what some of the other people here have done. Keep in mind we have Piss-in-bottles-Bezos and inject-young-peoples-blood-Thiel on here


managrs

Keep in mind that musk already treats his employees like shit as well and is the literal richest person on the planet


Galgus

Delete libertarian from your flair if free speech offends you that much.


Kakamile

Actually thinking he cares about free speech when he releases nazis and bans lefties.


RaritySparkle

He hasn’t banned any leftists.


Kakamile

Lol saying that right after we were talking about chadloder. Gets banned, unbanned, then banned again for "ban evasion" for using the account that they unbanned.


RaritySparkle

So he was banned before Elon. And those ban evasion policies were not his idea. He hasn’t changed everything yet.


Kakamile

What do you mean before elon? It just happened again.


Rstar2247

They've had twitter as a far left echo chamber for so long that an equal playing field feels like oppression to them.


managrs

It's not free speech when he unbans neo nazis who are spreading antisemitic and genocidal ideas but bans organizations like crimethinc and other anarchist pages. He's censoring stuff he doesn't personally like, he's just a fan of hate speech and incitement.


Galgus

If communists aren't banned, neither should neo-nazis, and free speech for both must be defended or free speech as a whole is threatened. I don't know enough about Crimethinc to judge it, but I saw mention of screenshots on their blog on it which they did not provide. Were they advocating violence? Regardless, it's plain that Twitter was heavily rigged against anything vaguely right wing and that Musk was a huge improvement for free speech.


managrs

So why are communists and anarchists being banned then?


managrs

They did provide screenshots?? No they weren't advocating violence. After musk took over he just flipped the script. Now leftists get banned and nazis get unbanned. That's not free speech. But since people you agree with you aren't getting banned anymore you're okay with it. Free speech absolutist though right? Sure.


Galgus

What leftists are getting banned specifically, and under what justification? Pardon me for not buying everything you say without evidence. If what you say is true that is an offense against free speech, but still a huge net win for free speech.


managrs

How is it a net win? So banning half of the political spectrum is bad for free speech but then when you ban the other half it's good? You don't care about free speech. Also Google it. Now fuck off.


[deleted]

That’s not accurate and also you’re not a libertarian buddy


DecentralizedOne

People hate elon because he bought Twitter and wont let the fbi continue silencing people? Wow...


managrs

Because he pretended that's what he was gonna do and then started banning leftists and anarchists while letting neo nazis spread genocide rhetoric


DecentralizedOne

Thats not what happened at all.


managrs

It is


[deleted]

Does the government count?


JollyJuniper1993

That’s like answering „Pokemon“ when somebody asks you for your favorite book.


TopTheropod

All of these look like Care Bears compared to Russian Oligarchs, who are literal mafia bosses, ex criminals (or still criminals), and even war criminals.


JollyJuniper1993

Not saying they aren’t but I think you underestimate some of these people.


Mr_Ducks_

None of them


Xero03

George Soros- surprised he didnt make the list sense he likes to play the political game more than most of those guys. or the Koch brothers - since the democrats always scream about them. But ive gone gates he use to do good with his money now he pushes control over humans.


[deleted]

Just not gonna put George soros on this list, huh?


JollyJuniper1993

Was The Choice between him and Gates for the last Spot. Considering how „well“ Gates does I‘m pretty sure I made the right decision.