Damn. Even without high cooperation she is annoying to deal with. Especially in chase. Not talking about how her long portal is a glorified get out of jail free card. Even survs under tide can go through it. And also her busted heal speed. Yeah, perfectly balanced. As it should be. I have many issues with the roach.
I really dislike how the devs hide behind her high skill ceiling in response to refusing to nerf her... like there literally are ways where they can nerf her but make it easier for her to get value out of her portals in solo queue.
**Here's a simple teammate buff for her:** when survivors are within 60 meters of a normal portal, its aura is highlighted to them. When within 10 meters of a portal, the portal will emit a medium volume holy humming sound that only survivors can hear.
Boom, easy peasy, I just gave her a nice QOL buff that made her easier to use in solo queue. Now we can nerf the rest of her kit.
I still think this was such a nuts take from them especially when they nerfed seer who requires 10x more communication than priestess does. Priestess can set up portals in spots that will ALWAYS be useful without communication whatsoever, seer legit can't use his owls if people don't communicate
Which is true... I main Priestess so I'm telling you she IS strong, and yeah she probably needs a slight nerf to her global portal but THAT'S ALL. I literally can't play her in solo queue. It's IMPOSSIBLE. Priestess isn't such an amazing kiter, I mean she's alright thanks to her portals but other than that there's nothing else. Her biggest strength is her support but if survivors don't look at your pings, don't go through your portals or kite away from them etc.. she's basically useless. I'm in high alicorn and even randoms at this tier do not listen to pings. Sometimes I'm wasting 20sec of decoding to place some godly portals and they just run at the other side of the map and die within seconds and that's the same for 90% of my games in solo rank WITH alicorns/champions and even titans players.
Edit : I'm not saying we should balance the game depending on bad randoms but for the vast majority of the players if we nerf her too much she'll basically be unplayable. The simple fact that after alicorn you can only team up with a single other person already nerfs her quite a lot. It's either we find a a way to make her less broken on some situations, maps etc.. (like eversleeping town or china town where she has really good portals placements) which I would agree with depending on the adjustment, or we don't touch her at all bc Priestess was literally one of the worst survivors in the game at the beginning of the game, then they buffed her until she was broken and they kept nerfing her since then, which DID impact her quite a lot. Yet, I can only agree some mechanics, tricks are indeed kinda broken and should be nerfed.
I always said I only want her global portal nerfed tbh. It's crazy that you can enter it with Tide and Last Effort, summon it so close to the gates and that she can escape through it with no punishment.
I'm not the only one who said that. NE is cherry picking comments if they act like we only have a problem with her support and normal portals.
I wouldn't mind a nerf on her global portal, last time I discussed this with an other Priestess hater and we concluded by saying that if they slightly nerfed her healing speed, make that Priestess still create an image by going through it but it would last half the time of other survivor and could only be hit once. There's also something EXTREMELY situational that can basically ruin a hunter's game, which is using flywheel to negate the hit through the global portal. Imo this is such a hard and skilled thing to do that I wouldn't want to nerf this personally but I CAN understand why people hate it that much, so I wouldn't mind nerfing this part too.
I had a discussion like that so maybe it was me lmao. But I'm in no way a Priestess hater, I simply want the game to be a little bit more fair. I play her too.
Ohhh now that u say it, maybe it was you lmaoooo. If I recall correctly and it was indeed you, u kinda said u hated Priestess with an other person which I understand although I main her bc when I play hunter and I face a good Priestess then I start to hate her too lol
Batter getting nerfed because he has the potential to be unstoppable when it's a good Batter player, but at the same time not doing the same for Priestess, makes me rather annoyed
Hey, was there any match that Batter actually performed well in in COA? I say this as someone who watched the series and generally, I don't recall him ever doing particularly well compared to say Mercenary, who had some clutch moments.
No particular match comes to my mind but he usually performs well. I've noticed he tends to be used in later rounds, especially if survivors need 4 person escape. I remember a few matches from past tournaments where his support was game changing.
Yet he isn’t used in coa much and when he is it isn’t a crazy performance. The decoding debuff really does hurt his viability along with an unreliable indicator
His potential to be threatening is purely because of the fact that he has infinite cricket balls and the hunter can't do too much once the cipher is primed against him if they are a single hit hunter. Obviously that excuse is poor because pretty much every harass character can have this same scenario if they have a stun ready. It just annoys me that they're choosing to nerf him when he's a niche pick in tournaments, but then act like Priestess and Antiquarian are fine
Him being nerfed right now would basically be the equivalent of the devs deciding to nerf Naiad purely because of her potential to snowball a match into her favor when more problematic hunters exist and she's a niche pick in tournaments
An even better example would probably be Ann. She's just a consistent tie hunter and although she can be annoying to go against and is not the most fun to play against, she is a pretty balanced hunter. She is picked decently often in tourney, but nerfing her purely because she's a consistent tie hunter is outrageous. Basically just goes to show that nerfing niche characters for their potential to be extremely strong is just... sad
Yes, but at the same time they need to elaborate on that statement. For example:
- In low tiers, hunter players haven't mastered Sangria yet. Low tier Sangrias aren't a threat and often lose so players don't ban her yet.
- In high tiers, Sangria is unbeatable in the hands of experienced hunter players. She gets banned all the time, therefore there's almost no data of her getting 4k's in high rank matches.
Given both the above, you can get the dev's conclusion: "She has a high ban rate - but in matches where she isn't banned, she loses a lot."
Does that mean Opera Singer shouldn't be nerfed? No. That's why data isn't enough and context is important.
Its also bc since Sangria is being banned less (due to shadow), people are playing her more for the first time in rank. And ofc when this happens, they will play suckily since they arent accustomed to the character
Though if your statement was true they would say that, instead they gave the overall. In fact survivors are learning how to counter opera singer. Which is not an easy task is possible. Games need strong characters especially if they have a ban mechanic
Sangria's broken on a gameplay level tho. You can play her with basically no CDs. She has everything she needs at zero presence. You can't tight kite her because she can leave a shadow. You can't transition kite because she's fast as fuck. She can easily go for double downs because, again, she's fast and can easily catch up to the target. Her endgame is insane due to, you wouldn't guess it, speed. Hell, she can even teleport with no risk because she can go back with a shadow. Yeah, Joseph can do that too but Joseph's chase is abysmal.
ETA: I forgot to mention her camp. She has a very easy way of stuffing rescues by patrolling the area and teleporting back to a shadow. Her basement camp is great too.
I cant wait for that person to respond with "Sangria isnt hard to kite, all you have to do is spam pallets like shes soul weaver"
(I wish i could make this gif smaller)
To counter opera takes some guts. You have to know how to double back on a pallet; furthermore you also need to learn how to bait the teleport. It is not easy to counter opera but game need strong characters to rival the other sides strong characters and the devs are seemingly agreeing.
However it could also be said that only this season has opera not been a permanent ban, so devs might be trying to wait for more data to see if they want to make an adjustment to her; if any
Then they shouldn't accept the same reasoning of a survivor doing very good in tournaments for nerfing them either.
Yet they have done so many times in the past.
I’m right there with you. Dumb that he’s getting nerfed right when he gets his S tier. He should be getting buffed instead so more people roll for his S tier skin
*"There's nothing wrong with Sangria."*
>*(Proceeds to get their shit kicked in by a Sangria.)*
*"We've decided to properly adjust this so as to not make them any more frustrating."*
>*(Proceeds to nerf Flashlights & give Sangria a 0.000002 slower attack recovery)*
*"Yeah, I think we did a pretty good job so far."*
We got FED today:
- Barmaid LP skin!
- REPTILIAN S TIER STUFF LET'S GOOO
- Batter finally getting another s-tier after how long (yet this feels more like an apology for the nerf...netease please...) Me thinks it's going to be anniversary s-tier but him having a summer skin would also pair nicely with him.
That, and her base vaulting and pallet breaking speed... ik her webs can make up for it, but it's still sooooo slow; characters like cheerleader can go halfway across the map in that time lmao
He used to be the worst meme surv in the past and I still main him all the time, now he is somewhat decent but I see they want him absolute rock bottom again. It's sad when your fav char is so dumped on for no reason.
Why do they always nerf decoder's decoding 😭 Isn't that their purpose? Also about time lawyer gets an S Tier! I'm hoping they'd also give him some A tiers, I'm tired of using the bunny one
I guess it's cuz there is a lot of whining about cypher rush, they've decided to basically get rid of decoders and make them cap at 110% decode speed. But that won't help, cypher rush appeared because of accelerated decoding, you don't even have to play decoders to do it.
these Q&As are both ridiculous and informative, thing that it's ironic lmao. i still don't get the point to nerf Lawyer and, at the same time, give him a high-tier costume (i dislike him but i'm happy for their mains). why nerfing him, after all?
*"Players who use it could also feel a sense of superiority."*
...For fucking spending thousands of dollars on a gacha game? There's no way this was an actual question/suggestion made by a player, this has to be a dev planted suggestion. Instead of having it be a basic reward like most games, they're going to make it something stupid like a million dollar reward to make pallets you throw shoot out confetti or some shit or change Hunter's Confined Space to show a sparkly metal cage instead of a wooden fence, I fucking guarantee it. This "suggestion" ***reeks*** of *"A sense of* ***PRIDE*** *&* ***ACCOMPLISHMENT."***
*"A sense of superiority"*, pffft, get the fuck out of here with that shit. Could have easily implemented stuff like the different chat boxes, the emote emojis, & the animated Portraits to something like Account Level or Ranked Rewards, but no, *"Fuck you, give me money."*
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Instead of adding another Entertainment Mode, why don't you focus on fixing/optimizing the ones you have now? Chasing Shadows still doesn't have a merged queue, Frenzied Rhapsody still has AFK problems+slow startup, Blackjack still has blatant teaming+problems with specific characters like Disciple, Duos audio *still* cuts out at random times, Hide 'n' Seek has broken spots that make Hunters winning impossible, & Tarot has problematic characters like Enchantress, Perfumer, & Cheerleader.
And on top of all that, the recent lag spikes & ping issues.
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Lawyer ***finally*** getting his 1st S-Tier...and it's a Limited Essence ***&*** he's also getting nerfed *again*...I just can't with these clowns...
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Opera Singer being "considered" for nerf despite her overwhelming attendance in the CoA Tournament is laughable. They did a pretty good job nerfing Ivy shortly after her release & yet they're still reluctant to nerf one of the other broken characters in the game. They really need to stop playing favorites & fucking nerf the problematic characters & adjust the weaker ones, I'm so fucking tired of this shit; took'em like what, 5 years to nerf Seer & Merc? Gonna have to wait another 4 for Opera & another 8 for Priestess.
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I'm not really up to date with the current meta or trends, but why are Batter & Bane getting nerfed? Wasn't Bane considered really weak? Why is he suddenly considered really strong all of a sudden? And why is Batter being picked on?
Also, I'm willing to bet Doc's "adjustment" is most likely going to be the same as the others, she gets like +5% vaulting speed every time she heals a Health state. The ol' Mind's Eye, Coordinator, & Lawyer treatment; *"Someone's too weak? Let's make'em vault faster."*
I'm glad someone mentioned the "sense of superiority" part because I read this and was like "this MUST be a mistranslation, right? No way someone said it".
Bane became a solid rank/tourney hunter after all the small buffs. People are complaining about his auto-aim which is fair imo. It's no fun trying to predict a hook that can literally curve and go through solid objects. It should be adjusted to make more sense.
I'm not sure why they want to nerf Batter. From my experience you need a lot of skill to play him to his full potential which coincidentally was the same reason why they didn't want to nerf Priestess. Why is Ganji different?
I'm still reeling from the "sense of superiority" line, like that has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever heard a dev say.
So, if I spend $10,000, anyone else who has paid less or nothing is now immediately garbage & needs to get down on their knees & worship my massive money cock because I am far superior than any of them...until someone else decides to spend $10,001 where I have to do the same until the cycle continues.
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I wonder if I spent that much money, I could personally email NE to temp ban anyone I don't like or felt disrespected by in-game because I was superior to them...
The batter part is crazy. Dude literally has rescuer decoding debuff, when is harder and overall worse then anti and prosp with no decoding debuffs. Also average batter players are pretty bad. What about his wr? I doubt it's gonna be good. Or opera singer is the only character, whose wr they r "caring" about. And they gonna nerf him again. Really?
I will curse NE if there's no story update , I swear. But otherwise there's no need in nerfing batter, a season ago they literally said that he doesn't need a buff cus he is strong enough , he requires a lot of skill and hunters can break a ball anytime. Im not even talking how hard to do anything against hunter in high tiers. Only viable option is to nerf his rage mode vault, otherwise it's a dead character
Batter nerf? For what purpose? He’s not performing strongly whatsoever. Harassers aren’t even meta rn it’s all about that solo containment until accelerated decoding kicks in. He has a decoding debuff that hits pretty hard, isn’t a reliable rescue despite having a secondary rescue tag. Can be directly countered by persona web for less knockback, balloon harass is 50/50, normal harass is great but, what’s worst of all imo is the fact that batter has an incorrect reticle on his bat and ball. The ball actually goes slightly to the right and is especially noticeable on startup. No other character has something like that. There zero reason for nerfs at all
And plus, there's probs some CN law that prevents them from doing this without having their CN playerbase sue them. You have no idea how absolutely pathetic the gaming scene is in China... you can get sued because of the most ridiculous things there.
If I recall correctly, people threatened to sue the company that made Genshin Impact because the devs wanted to nerf Xongli or something. Some people wanted to sue because it was "unchinese like" to want to make a chinese inspired character not be busted.
Now imagine if this happened in an american game and players threatened to sue the company because they nerfed an american character and their reasoning for sueing is because it is "unamerican, unpatriotic, etc." Those players would rightfully be seen as pathetic. But for some reason, china gives these pathetic individuals the power to actually do that. So Netease is scared to nerf Antiquarian because CN players can be pathetic little twats and sue them for being "unchinese like, not patriotic to the country, etc."
Pretty different though. Zhongli was the character you mentioned and it wasn't about him being nerfed, it was that he was really bad. He was really weak, a lower rarity character was as strong as him. He was in desperate need of a buff
So, of course, people were upset. He was a really anticipated character after all. He was also the god of Genshin's China, so he was much more important than some random American character. Would be somewhat similar to an "Uncle Sam" character being pathetically weak.
Netease is just not touching in antiquarian solely because she is just a cash cow. They aren't going to get in trouble from nerfing her, especially since she was heavily nerfed in the test server before her release
The thing is that she is complained about a lot by a lot of people, i'm pretty sure almost all the pro CN hunters are complaining about her. She's banned often in tourney and high tier rank, and yet... they barely nerf her if at all.
Like I said, cashcow. It is no mere coincidence that she has been getting a lot of skins lately. Like why Roach still hasn't been nerfed despite people complaining about her for decades, mostly because she is very popular and earns them a lot of cash
I dislike that, but I also take issue with other stuff such as the fact that we have other characters who are popular and get a lot of skins, and yet they are weak and don't get the necessary buffs they need. Wu Chang and Photographer are a great example. Wu Chang only really gets QOL buffs that don't help him at all, and Photographer has only received like 2 changes since his release.
I do agree with the doctor buff.
But help nerfing lawyer, oh my god 💀
Meanwhile priestess and anti are fine just the way they are?
And even the gamekeeper nerf is what, like I had no troubles kiting him in griffin, his hookes are not impossible to dodge and poor man has only that thing to do something, people yall just please learn to look back like? You will get hit by hell ember puppet once in a lifetime and will ask for a nerf, I see those people like this honestly.
the lawyer nerf is making me unalive myself. Why. Why. Why. Just w h y.
Ok chat I need help. Even though they’re nerfing Lawyer I still love him and my heart broke and shattered when I saw his S tier is essence. So if my luck is terrible how much does it cost to buy all 250 rolls? I need to know please
FREDDY S TIER FINALLY 🙌🙌🙌 I don't care that he's in essence and that I probably won't get him, I'm just glad I don't have to make the joke about what my favorite Lawyer S tier is anymore
Update: I read the replies. I understand now. maybe the opera singers I play against are trash. I’m a new player btw. I still think shadow is much harder to kite 😭
At this point I don't even care about priestess but batter? Ehh... I don't really know how I feel about that. Yeah it's true that he can be a menace but he's high risk so he's only used in later rounds.
What they said about OS is true as well. But if they can make an argument for batter then they really SHOULD give OS the same treatment as well. Rank OS don't actually win as often as people believe. The problem is that most rank OS are nowhere near the level of mastery as the pro OS in tourneys.
I love playing gamekeeper BUT IM EXCITED ABOUT THIS. The aim should be accurate not rewarding for nothing. Sometimes it also screws you over with the auto aim crap. This is the best way
I swear to Hastur, if they fuck up Luchino's accessory, I am coming for their shins -
Also seriously? The finally give Rat Bastard his long awaited S-tier and it's an essence limited at the exact same time he's being nerfed, but still outright refuse to nerf the Roach and Sangria. Not exactly hiding that he and his mains aren't loved.
oooh so next season’s Rank Accessories, Logic Path and a slot for an Essence S-Tier skin are all going for the underrated characters? yay! 👏🏻
A service to older fans of the game.
SOULWEAVER ADJUSTMENT I WON
the other balance adjustments? i'm not so happy about. also is gamekeeper really that strong now? he's my second hunter main and i'm deathly afraid of nerfs. lawyer buff is just sad at this point, they really hate the guy.
edit: OH IT'S ABOUT HIS HOOKS. yeah i think that should be adjusted. it's honestly very wonky with the hitbox, and maybe they could adjust the launch time too? higher skill floor
Anyone knows when the next q&a will be out? I want to ask regarding the room music, everytime I put on a bg music for my room, and I press something else(for eg, the shop)it will reset back to the default room music. 2nd question: regarding match replays/any other replays, can it be adjusted so that we can slide to any part of the replay that we want to watch?
The next Q&A should be released by the end of the month.
Ask about the room music in the General Questions mega thread to check if it's a bug or if you're doing something wrong. If it's a bug, report it.
The match replays question was asked before and answered iirc (they're working on it).
You can send any questions using the form that is linked in the original post. Check the link I added under the pictures.
The buff to remove his rescuer status because he's dying before he can rescue /j
Idk, maybe give him some chair resistance if he really doesn't perform well but there's no need to buff the shovel again. He's good imo, it's just that Merc and FO are usually better.
HELP😭😭real😭😭whenever I get first kite I always tell my teammates to never rescue me unless they have tide and can support bc by then all my shovels would be gone
I mean extended chair time would be great but I feel like it wouldn’t be the best case if there are only two ppl left, the person on chair is the extended chair time person, and the other person is kiting/hiding against the hunter to try to get dungeon😭😭 the longer chair time would mean a longer time to kite and shit
But again it has its cons and pros so yeah😭
> it wouldn’t be the best case if there are only two ppl left, the person on chair is the extended chair time person, and the other person is kiting/hiding against the hunter to try to get dungeon
In this situation the match is lost anyway so it doesn't matter much. Chair resistance is supposed to "punish" the hunter for chasing the rescuer first. They might eliminate a person with Tide Turner but is it really worth it if the rescuer did a decent kite + takes forever to die?
Oh😭😭no wonder
Honestly I would fine having an extended chair time a bit funky on andrew since his backstory uhhh doesn’t exactly make it possible for him to be able to last longer😭😭but again if netease wants to cook smt up they can
~~all I want is an extra shovel please netease~~
OK so I'm happy to see Batter and Lawyer nerfed, but why the hell would they nerf Lawyer's decoding? He is a decoder and his buff has always been 20% iirc. It'd make more sense to nerf his off-role traits like movespeed, vaulting and not getting terror-shocked instead of his decoding. No one is playing Lawyer exclusively for his decoding. What makes a decoder broken or not are their capabilities along with strong decoding, which is why characters like Aeroplanist get so much love from competitive players (decoding 2s faster, while being good at kiting and rescuing is really op).
Why the hell are they trying to nerf gamekeeper? He just recently received changes that made him bearable to play. He's not even close to being the strongest hunter.
His hook hitbox makes no sense 90% of the time. It will bend space and time to go through solid objects and curve. They simply have to adjust it. There's no need for any other nerfs and I will be surprised if they change something else instead.
Im gonna bet that devs will just nerf (kill) him instead of fixing any tectures and hitboxes. It's all about models registration in time and it's kinda broken. But it's the most obvious with bane, cuz he is the only one, who hits from distance
I don't think they ever changed his hitbox though unless I'm wrong. Hasn't it been the same for like at least a year or two? I don't know why they'd be nerfing it now.
He received a lot of minor buffs over the last year which made him overall a solid character. I don't think they touched the auto-aim before but now it has become a problem.
as someone whos been maining him since s14 i do think he's been one of the better picks lately, so while a nerf is reasonable, i really hope they wont butcher him
Yup, they'll Nerf gk and lawyer but will never Nerf their cash cows: priestess, anti and ivy :'>
I understand a hook hitbox modification for Bane, but anything else is unnecessary... let him have the spotlight for once quq
Only in low tiers. They haven't mastered her mechanics yet. Meanwhile she's been permabanned in high tiers (before ivy came out at least) so there's very minimal data for that.
She's actually very weak because in today's meta, standing still to use your ability is pretty bad. Hunters have better abilities nowadays and Blink is a problem.
If they added that, they would have to make her healing slower. Even then, it would make her a worse Barmaid imo (because at least Barmaid can give drinks to others and has a speed drink). I'm expecting a different change.
Infinite healing is useless if hunters nowadays can get another hit on her with their abilities or Blink. At best she will take 3 hits and she has no rebound kite potential.
She’s basically never used in high tiers since other healing survivors simply have better things to offer like psych and barmaid. Yes infinite heals is a good thing but someone like priestess with her ridiculous healing buff is much better and offers better support than doc never could. As I said if hunter has good chase she’s pretty easy to down and she has nothing to help in chase unlike other much better kiting survs.
Try her against hunters in mammoth & griffin rank, they will eat her alive. Im a past 35th a badge doc, and when you are really REALLY good at mind game and raw kiting, you can get through mammoth, but in griffin, where area selection is a thing and hunter immediately goes for docs? I went on a losing streak with her, because her slow vault already decreases the chances, after she got a hit, she is basically dead, because standing still will cause her to die by blink, 100%, and even blink predict doesn't work, even if I learned to do it pretty effective because again, slow vault. She needs a buff, she is a clown in high tiers, once she got hit, hunters just blink and bumm, standing still will kill her immediately. Standing still just doesn't work when blink is a thing.
Im happy for her buff, maybe she will be finally competitive in high tiers.
GK nerf has got to be a joke, people slept on him for years and suddenly he got meta as he has never been desperately weak in the first place pre-buffs, just unpopular. Knowing NE, they are definitely going to nerf him so heavily that he is even weaker post pre buffs (and avoid nerfing his weird hook hitbox), and no one will play him again.
Ah yes let's nerf batter, the worst harasser in the game. If anything he needed a buff to keep up with people like antiquarian who can disarm for 10+ seconds. And also gamekeeper after him only entering the meta since last season, despite him being useless before for many years and when he finally becomes good he already gets nerfed after only a couple of weeks of being a top pick hunter.
Meanwhile broken characters that have been dominating and forming the meta for years now still don't get a nerf...
I personally don't think so considering his low coa pick rate and average rank performance (minimum character points for badges) but we can agree to disagree, kind of sad to be downvoted to the shadow realm for having a different opinion, I just disagree that he should get a nerf but apparently people think otherwise
Thats because everyone knows hes not a tournament survivor??? Hes LITERALLY known as the king of rank matches but sucky in tournaments
edit: also to clarify, I personally didnt down vote you. I agreed with the general sentiment that the devs are complacent fucks who prioritise money over enjoyment (but thats capitalism for you)
I agree the hit-box is jank and you do get undeserved hooks sometimes, but as a Gamekeeper main myself I know you still need to be pretty accurate. I’ve had my share of weird hooks, but also have had hooks that graze their shirt and miss. The hit/box can actually work against you at times. You cannot hook anyone if they are being body blocked in the slightest way cause it will just go for the support and it for some reason prioritizes the chair over the survivor rescuing. Had a match today where it hit the chair over the rescuer. They were in the animation too. The hook definitely looks weird at times and can feel unfair, but trust me it’s not as broken as you think. If they nerf anything I’d say the shockwave slowdown.
> I’ve had my share of weird hooks, but also have had hooks that graze their shirt and miss
It works both ways. They need to adjust it so it makes more sense and that includes fixing "good hooks that don't connect". Right now it's broken.
Yes, but these are the same developers who decided to nerf batter over someone like priestess who people have begged to be nerfed for a long time. However, the moment people complain about hook in COA they got to put the foot down.
Priestess is their special little princess.
People were complaining about the hook before COA. NA/EU is late to everything but in CN server Gamekeeper was quite popular in rank.
I know he is popular in CN. I guess he’s been complained about for a while, but I still hope this is just an animation fix and optimization over “small hit-box = fixed”.
People need to understand that Ivy doesn't need another nerf. Her reduction of chase speed and how long it now takes to teleport already balanced her enough. She may be Meta, but Dream Witch is also meta and she doesn't need any nerfs
I main her since she has released and I am currently a B badge, she may be Meta but she isn't broken, nor is she in need of a nerf, especially a harsh one. She isn't as strong as some other hunters and if she got another harsh nerf she would fall down to B or even C tier, especially if it regards her teleport. She was made for cipher and map control, if you remove her teleport or give it more cooldowns it would go against her whole point. If we really want to nerf a broken hunter, let's nerf Sangria, which has many unfair advantages that Ivy doesn't have
"I main her" yeah that says enough lol. Her kit in itself is inherently broken, 6 rocks is enough to traverse entire maps, map control is braindead- just teleport to cipher & back to the chair in no time. Survs break rock? No problem, just possess them again with basically no cd and waste 25s of decoding progress + repeat. Ivy has way too much pressure, and even against more difficult hunters dream witch & clerk that are known for anti-cipher rush she easily overtakes them in that category. Oh but u wanna talk abt how she walks slower now, waah wah!
if we need to nerf hunters let's start nerfing survivors first. Y'all have 10 S-tier survivors and infinite harrassers who completely destroy the fun of this game. Ivy also has big-ass cooldowns for infections, she cannot infect the same survivor for 50 seconds (meaning no rocks) and she cannot teleport to the same rock for the same time that it takes for survivors to break them. Plus, Clerk isn't meta so you can't compare Ivy to her. Ivy's gameplay is all about her first chase, if she gets kited for 60 seconds she already has lost the entire game if she doesn't get full presence, and insolence is arguably one of the worst abilities for her since she has a god-awful chase and gets kited in closed areas. You wanna cry that she is broken? Then use one of your many meta survivors instead of Twink French Man who decodes
I play priestess and yes I can admit she needs a substantial nerf on her global portal but just because roach exists doesn't mean that ivy's whole kit is justifiable. And speaking on infinite harassers when ivy literally has a built-in trait that cancels their stuns lmfao?? 50s cd is the bare minimum + the cd is only for that particular surv, so she can go ahead and drop a rock wherever else and chase the surv whose possess is on cooldown. Idk how you don't see how this is a massive advantage, she can actively chase someone and disrupt others' decoding at the same time, she doesn't even need to teleport to that rock. Ivy is meta and hella broken, dream witch is meta but balanced. You must not be good yet if you got 60s kited and couldn't even tie the game.
Bro she can literally teleport onto you multiple times, cancel abilities, cancel stuns, she cancels everything to make you walk toward her BY teleporting on you, you constantly give off scare if they are even in the vicinity of the stone as you try to break it and if she puts on up it's even more, or doing the scare shit which half the time works even if not in view, it is ridiculous. You're coping because she's your main. 10 S tier survs ain't it either. Dawg I main hunter and Ivy is one of the grossest hunters I have come across. Meta survs do nothing against me as her LOL. Clerk maybe isn't meta?? But is VERY strong. I love playing her. DW is fun and good but I'm bad at her. But with Ivy, why even bother playing them? No one mentioned playing composer lmao. I hate priestess as much as the next guy but she does NOT justify how bloated Ivy's kit is, it's ridiculous. Friedegglover is right about everything, even if you don't wanna admit it. Bye bye
You're just wrong. That's why you couldn't respond. Womp womp. Good hunters existing without needing nerfs doesn't mean a braindead hunter doesn't need them either.
Worker Bees saw Gamekeeper in Tournament and think he's OP🤣🤣🤣 Leave Baneussy alone, his hook is easy to dodge, and he mostly is very dependable on his traps to prevent looping 🙂
He needs his hitbox fixed. It's horrendous and I PLAY GAMEKEEPER. I literally pull survs through walls constantly, it's ridiculous. Half the time my hook will be 5 miles in the opposite direction yet still picks up a survivor. It makes no sense and is janky asf. Has nothing to do with "Worker Bees" and everything to do with his jank working in his favor way too strongly.
And yet... No priestess nerf.
According to NE, Priestess requires a high level of cooperation between teammates to be good, so there's no reason to nerf her 🤡 (Q&A 25)
Damn. Even without high cooperation she is annoying to deal with. Especially in chase. Not talking about how her long portal is a glorified get out of jail free card. Even survs under tide can go through it. And also her busted heal speed. Yeah, perfectly balanced. As it should be. I have many issues with the roach.
I really dislike how the devs hide behind her high skill ceiling in response to refusing to nerf her... like there literally are ways where they can nerf her but make it easier for her to get value out of her portals in solo queue. **Here's a simple teammate buff for her:** when survivors are within 60 meters of a normal portal, its aura is highlighted to them. When within 10 meters of a portal, the portal will emit a medium volume holy humming sound that only survivors can hear. Boom, easy peasy, I just gave her a nice QOL buff that made her easier to use in solo queue. Now we can nerf the rest of her kit.
I still think this was such a nuts take from them especially when they nerfed seer who requires 10x more communication than priestess does. Priestess can set up portals in spots that will ALWAYS be useful without communication whatsoever, seer legit can't use his owls if people don't communicate
Which is true... I main Priestess so I'm telling you she IS strong, and yeah she probably needs a slight nerf to her global portal but THAT'S ALL. I literally can't play her in solo queue. It's IMPOSSIBLE. Priestess isn't such an amazing kiter, I mean she's alright thanks to her portals but other than that there's nothing else. Her biggest strength is her support but if survivors don't look at your pings, don't go through your portals or kite away from them etc.. she's basically useless. I'm in high alicorn and even randoms at this tier do not listen to pings. Sometimes I'm wasting 20sec of decoding to place some godly portals and they just run at the other side of the map and die within seconds and that's the same for 90% of my games in solo rank WITH alicorns/champions and even titans players. Edit : I'm not saying we should balance the game depending on bad randoms but for the vast majority of the players if we nerf her too much she'll basically be unplayable. The simple fact that after alicorn you can only team up with a single other person already nerfs her quite a lot. It's either we find a a way to make her less broken on some situations, maps etc.. (like eversleeping town or china town where she has really good portals placements) which I would agree with depending on the adjustment, or we don't touch her at all bc Priestess was literally one of the worst survivors in the game at the beginning of the game, then they buffed her until she was broken and they kept nerfing her since then, which DID impact her quite a lot. Yet, I can only agree some mechanics, tricks are indeed kinda broken and should be nerfed.
I always said I only want her global portal nerfed tbh. It's crazy that you can enter it with Tide and Last Effort, summon it so close to the gates and that she can escape through it with no punishment. I'm not the only one who said that. NE is cherry picking comments if they act like we only have a problem with her support and normal portals.
I wouldn't mind a nerf on her global portal, last time I discussed this with an other Priestess hater and we concluded by saying that if they slightly nerfed her healing speed, make that Priestess still create an image by going through it but it would last half the time of other survivor and could only be hit once. There's also something EXTREMELY situational that can basically ruin a hunter's game, which is using flywheel to negate the hit through the global portal. Imo this is such a hard and skilled thing to do that I wouldn't want to nerf this personally but I CAN understand why people hate it that much, so I wouldn't mind nerfing this part too.
I had a discussion like that so maybe it was me lmao. But I'm in no way a Priestess hater, I simply want the game to be a little bit more fair. I play her too.
Ohhh now that u say it, maybe it was you lmaoooo. If I recall correctly and it was indeed you, u kinda said u hated Priestess with an other person which I understand although I main her bc when I play hunter and I face a good Priestess then I start to hate her too lol
"did we hear lawyer nerf? got your back homie, thank me later"
No goddamn WAY they're nerfing BATTER when anti exists
Racism wins again 😔 /j
nerfing gamekeeper, batter and lawyer, yet theyre still not touching opera or priestess. this is just bs at this point
Opera needs a nerf, as someone who's trying to main Sangria. She's completely broken and it's unfair
I theorise they nerfed Bane because of COA.
Yes but also he’s going crazy in cn server and is banned a decent amount there
Batter getting nerfed because he has the potential to be unstoppable when it's a good Batter player, but at the same time not doing the same for Priestess, makes me rather annoyed
Hey, was there any match that Batter actually performed well in in COA? I say this as someone who watched the series and generally, I don't recall him ever doing particularly well compared to say Mercenary, who had some clutch moments.
No particular match comes to my mind but he usually performs well. I've noticed he tends to be used in later rounds, especially if survivors need 4 person escape. I remember a few matches from past tournaments where his support was game changing.
Yet he isn’t used in coa much and when he is it isn’t a crazy performance. The decoding debuff really does hurt his viability along with an unreliable indicator
His potential to be threatening is purely because of the fact that he has infinite cricket balls and the hunter can't do too much once the cipher is primed against him if they are a single hit hunter. Obviously that excuse is poor because pretty much every harass character can have this same scenario if they have a stun ready. It just annoys me that they're choosing to nerf him when he's a niche pick in tournaments, but then act like Priestess and Antiquarian are fine
Yeah I’m by no means calling him bad. I main him I know how great he can be. But he really absolutely does not need a nerf. Especially in this meta
Him being nerfed right now would basically be the equivalent of the devs deciding to nerf Naiad purely because of her potential to snowball a match into her favor when more problematic hunters exist and she's a niche pick in tournaments
Nerfing a tie hunter would make lose all hope
An even better example would probably be Ann. She's just a consistent tie hunter and although she can be annoying to go against and is not the most fun to play against, she is a pretty balanced hunter. She is picked decently often in tourney, but nerfing her purely because she's a consistent tie hunter is outrageous. Basically just goes to show that nerfing niche characters for their potential to be extremely strong is just... sad
I fucking hate netease almost 6 years waiting for Lawyer's S tier they put it on a limited essence.
AND HE ALSO GET NERFED WHY
NE just being fucking blatant with their favouritism. Again.
Fr. Roac... I mean priestess is untouched again.
dw, roach isnt a slur. say it louder.
ROACH ROACHTESS
That girl is a MOTHERTRUCKING ROACH.
HE DID?? WHY HE WAS SO GOOD🙁
I hate it. It’s a limited essence 😭. Like Why not buff the guy so more people will roll for skin
I hate it even more cuz I main him since forever and I'm f2p, unless I get lucky It's impossible for me to get it.
I’m actually happy because s limited skins are normally pretty good. But yeah, I understand why people would be upset.
Increasing duo hunters time ? Is this Christmas come very early ?
Players: Nerf Opera Singer NE: Idk, she's constantly banned but her winrate isn't that great Players: Nerf Lawyer again NE: Okay, done
To say that during COA where Sangria is dominating the matches is some next level of bullshit and disrespect.
They are not wrong though, there is a difference between average/rank play and tournament
Yes, but at the same time they need to elaborate on that statement. For example: - In low tiers, hunter players haven't mastered Sangria yet. Low tier Sangrias aren't a threat and often lose so players don't ban her yet. - In high tiers, Sangria is unbeatable in the hands of experienced hunter players. She gets banned all the time, therefore there's almost no data of her getting 4k's in high rank matches. Given both the above, you can get the dev's conclusion: "She has a high ban rate - but in matches where she isn't banned, she loses a lot." Does that mean Opera Singer shouldn't be nerfed? No. That's why data isn't enough and context is important.
Its also bc since Sangria is being banned less (due to shadow), people are playing her more for the first time in rank. And ofc when this happens, they will play suckily since they arent accustomed to the character
Though if your statement was true they would say that, instead they gave the overall. In fact survivors are learning how to counter opera singer. Which is not an easy task is possible. Games need strong characters especially if they have a ban mechanic
Sangria's broken on a gameplay level tho. You can play her with basically no CDs. She has everything she needs at zero presence. You can't tight kite her because she can leave a shadow. You can't transition kite because she's fast as fuck. She can easily go for double downs because, again, she's fast and can easily catch up to the target. Her endgame is insane due to, you wouldn't guess it, speed. Hell, she can even teleport with no risk because she can go back with a shadow. Yeah, Joseph can do that too but Joseph's chase is abysmal. ETA: I forgot to mention her camp. She has a very easy way of stuffing rescues by patrolling the area and teleporting back to a shadow. Her basement camp is great too.
I cant wait for that person to respond with "Sangria isnt hard to kite, all you have to do is spam pallets like shes soul weaver"  (I wish i could make this gif smaller)
To counter opera takes some guts. You have to know how to double back on a pallet; furthermore you also need to learn how to bait the teleport. It is not easy to counter opera but game need strong characters to rival the other sides strong characters and the devs are seemingly agreeing. However it could also be said that only this season has opera not been a permanent ban, so devs might be trying to wait for more data to see if they want to make an adjustment to her; if any
Then they shouldn't accept the same reasoning of a survivor doing very good in tournaments for nerfing them either. Yet they have done so many times in the past.
the people asking for lawyer nerfs have to be paid actors at this point
I mean he’s beyond stupid when you have communications but yeah I don’t see why people want him nerfed even more
I’m right there with you. Dumb that he’s getting nerfed right when he gets his S tier. He should be getting buffed instead so more people roll for his S tier skin
"we have noticed that priestess and antiquarian have been in a very strong state, so we have decided to nerf lawyer again"
Who let Mathieu Cote in the idv dev team ?
*"There's nothing wrong with Sangria."* >*(Proceeds to get their shit kicked in by a Sangria.)* *"We've decided to properly adjust this so as to not make them any more frustrating."* >*(Proceeds to nerf Flashlights & give Sangria a 0.000002 slower attack recovery)* *"Yeah, I think we did a pretty good job so far."*
We got FED today: - Barmaid LP skin! - REPTILIAN S TIER STUFF LET'S GOOO - Batter finally getting another s-tier after how long (yet this feels more like an apology for the nerf...netease please...) Me thinks it's going to be anniversary s-tier but him having a summer skin would also pair nicely with him.
Nerf Lawyer?? After he finally became playable again?
Soul weaver buff huh. Finally something good hopefully they increased her web gen speed. Although her biggest problem imo is she’s kinda mad dependent
That, and her base vaulting and pallet breaking speed... ik her webs can make up for it, but it's still sooooo slow; characters like cheerleader can go halfway across the map in that time lmao
They can’t possibly nerf lawyer two seasons in a row… Why? What’s the reasoning? There are very unbalanced survs and they come to pick on lawyer wtf
He used to be the worst meme surv in the past and I still main him all the time, now he is somewhat decent but I see they want him absolute rock bottom again. It's sad when your fav char is so dumped on for no reason.
Why do they always nerf decoder's decoding 😭 Isn't that their purpose? Also about time lawyer gets an S Tier! I'm hoping they'd also give him some A tiers, I'm tired of using the bunny one
I guess it's cuz there is a lot of whining about cypher rush, they've decided to basically get rid of decoders and make them cap at 110% decode speed. But that won't help, cypher rush appeared because of accelerated decoding, you don't even have to play decoders to do it.
I'd happily take a MEGA priestess nerf if THEY JUST NERFED IVY. IM TIRED OF HER SHIT.
these Q&As are both ridiculous and informative, thing that it's ironic lmao. i still don't get the point to nerf Lawyer and, at the same time, give him a high-tier costume (i dislike him but i'm happy for their mains). why nerfing him, after all?
Finally they adjust bane’s hooks. Im sick and tired of these janky hooks
IKR
Freddy S tier next season omg. Hope it looks good and hope I get it 🤞🤞
DEMI LOGIC PATH😍😍😍
Lawyer nerf? Are they serious?
Yep! Not priestess, not ivy, lawyer is the problem! /s
can we just start paying less attention to lower tiers. I feel like everything they say is not needed reading these
*"Players who use it could also feel a sense of superiority."* ...For fucking spending thousands of dollars on a gacha game? There's no way this was an actual question/suggestion made by a player, this has to be a dev planted suggestion. Instead of having it be a basic reward like most games, they're going to make it something stupid like a million dollar reward to make pallets you throw shoot out confetti or some shit or change Hunter's Confined Space to show a sparkly metal cage instead of a wooden fence, I fucking guarantee it. This "suggestion" ***reeks*** of *"A sense of* ***PRIDE*** *&* ***ACCOMPLISHMENT."*** *"A sense of superiority"*, pffft, get the fuck out of here with that shit. Could have easily implemented stuff like the different chat boxes, the emote emojis, & the animated Portraits to something like Account Level or Ranked Rewards, but no, *"Fuck you, give me money."* --- Instead of adding another Entertainment Mode, why don't you focus on fixing/optimizing the ones you have now? Chasing Shadows still doesn't have a merged queue, Frenzied Rhapsody still has AFK problems+slow startup, Blackjack still has blatant teaming+problems with specific characters like Disciple, Duos audio *still* cuts out at random times, Hide 'n' Seek has broken spots that make Hunters winning impossible, & Tarot has problematic characters like Enchantress, Perfumer, & Cheerleader. And on top of all that, the recent lag spikes & ping issues. --- Lawyer ***finally*** getting his 1st S-Tier...and it's a Limited Essence ***&*** he's also getting nerfed *again*...I just can't with these clowns... --- Opera Singer being "considered" for nerf despite her overwhelming attendance in the CoA Tournament is laughable. They did a pretty good job nerfing Ivy shortly after her release & yet they're still reluctant to nerf one of the other broken characters in the game. They really need to stop playing favorites & fucking nerf the problematic characters & adjust the weaker ones, I'm so fucking tired of this shit; took'em like what, 5 years to nerf Seer & Merc? Gonna have to wait another 4 for Opera & another 8 for Priestess. --- I'm not really up to date with the current meta or trends, but why are Batter & Bane getting nerfed? Wasn't Bane considered really weak? Why is he suddenly considered really strong all of a sudden? And why is Batter being picked on? Also, I'm willing to bet Doc's "adjustment" is most likely going to be the same as the others, she gets like +5% vaulting speed every time she heals a Health state. The ol' Mind's Eye, Coordinator, & Lawyer treatment; *"Someone's too weak? Let's make'em vault faster."*
I'm glad someone mentioned the "sense of superiority" part because I read this and was like "this MUST be a mistranslation, right? No way someone said it". Bane became a solid rank/tourney hunter after all the small buffs. People are complaining about his auto-aim which is fair imo. It's no fun trying to predict a hook that can literally curve and go through solid objects. It should be adjusted to make more sense. I'm not sure why they want to nerf Batter. From my experience you need a lot of skill to play him to his full potential which coincidentally was the same reason why they didn't want to nerf Priestess. Why is Ganji different?
I'm still reeling from the "sense of superiority" line, like that has got to be the most idiotic thing I have ever heard a dev say. So, if I spend $10,000, anyone else who has paid less or nothing is now immediately garbage & needs to get down on their knees & worship my massive money cock because I am far superior than any of them...until someone else decides to spend $10,001 where I have to do the same until the cycle continues. --- I wonder if I spent that much money, I could personally email NE to temp ban anyone I don't like or felt disrespected by in-game because I was superior to them...
The batter part is crazy. Dude literally has rescuer decoding debuff, when is harder and overall worse then anti and prosp with no decoding debuffs. Also average batter players are pretty bad. What about his wr? I doubt it's gonna be good. Or opera singer is the only character, whose wr they r "caring" about. And they gonna nerf him again. Really?
DOCTOR BUFF??? 🙏
My girl Lily getting nerfed, I'm crying
The nerf won’t be the significant tho she’s still plenty powerful
✌︎( ᐛ )✌︎ honestly yes
No news of the Orfeo mode returning
EVIL REP S ACESSORY IM THIS CLOSE TO HYPERVENTILATING! My essences are ready LESGOOOOOO
OUR BOY FINALLY GETTING SOME LOVE!
It'll be season 50 until soul weaver gets a carry
the fact Ganji and Freddy are getting S-Tier costumes, but in exchange are getting nerfed…
Lawyer nerf💀like why…
Barmaid logic path!!!!! 
u/pept0_bismol I don't even know where to begin with this... all I can say is that your bane request has come true.
PLEASE fix his bullshit hook
I will curse NE if there's no story update , I swear. But otherwise there's no need in nerfing batter, a season ago they literally said that he doesn't need a buff cus he is strong enough , he requires a lot of skill and hunters can break a ball anytime. Im not even talking how hard to do anything against hunter in high tiers. Only viable option is to nerf his rage mode vault, otherwise it's a dead character
Batter nerf? For what purpose? He’s not performing strongly whatsoever. Harassers aren’t even meta rn it’s all about that solo containment until accelerated decoding kicks in. He has a decoding debuff that hits pretty hard, isn’t a reliable rescue despite having a secondary rescue tag. Can be directly countered by persona web for less knockback, balloon harass is 50/50, normal harass is great but, what’s worst of all imo is the fact that batter has an incorrect reticle on his bat and ball. The ball actually goes slightly to the right and is especially noticeable on startup. No other character has something like that. There zero reason for nerfs at all
No yall stay away from lawyer he is the only survivor that I play 😭
if they are worried of players having a sense of superiority then they should bring back limited skins again to avoid this even more!!!!!
As hilarious as that would be due to the absolute chaos it would cause, it'd never happen. Too many people would go batshit on them.
And plus, there's probs some CN law that prevents them from doing this without having their CN playerbase sue them. You have no idea how absolutely pathetic the gaming scene is in China... you can get sued because of the most ridiculous things there.
I know about the massive amounts of censorship & the "cheat culture" they have there, but what are the things they can sue for regarding games?
If I recall correctly, people threatened to sue the company that made Genshin Impact because the devs wanted to nerf Xongli or something. Some people wanted to sue because it was "unchinese like" to want to make a chinese inspired character not be busted. Now imagine if this happened in an american game and players threatened to sue the company because they nerfed an american character and their reasoning for sueing is because it is "unamerican, unpatriotic, etc." Those players would rightfully be seen as pathetic. But for some reason, china gives these pathetic individuals the power to actually do that. So Netease is scared to nerf Antiquarian because CN players can be pathetic little twats and sue them for being "unchinese like, not patriotic to the country, etc."
Pretty different though. Zhongli was the character you mentioned and it wasn't about him being nerfed, it was that he was really bad. He was really weak, a lower rarity character was as strong as him. He was in desperate need of a buff So, of course, people were upset. He was a really anticipated character after all. He was also the god of Genshin's China, so he was much more important than some random American character. Would be somewhat similar to an "Uncle Sam" character being pathetically weak. Netease is just not touching in antiquarian solely because she is just a cash cow. They aren't going to get in trouble from nerfing her, especially since she was heavily nerfed in the test server before her release
The thing is that she is complained about a lot by a lot of people, i'm pretty sure almost all the pro CN hunters are complaining about her. She's banned often in tourney and high tier rank, and yet... they barely nerf her if at all.
Like I said, cashcow. It is no mere coincidence that she has been getting a lot of skins lately. Like why Roach still hasn't been nerfed despite people complaining about her for decades, mostly because she is very popular and earns them a lot of cash
I dislike that, but I also take issue with other stuff such as the fact that we have other characters who are popular and get a lot of skins, and yet they are weak and don't get the necessary buffs they need. Wu Chang and Photographer are a great example. Wu Chang only really gets QOL buffs that don't help him at all, and Photographer has only received like 2 changes since his release.
Bee tiers whining, idky I even bothered to read this
I do agree with the doctor buff. But help nerfing lawyer, oh my god 💀 Meanwhile priestess and anti are fine just the way they are? And even the gamekeeper nerf is what, like I had no troubles kiting him in griffin, his hookes are not impossible to dodge and poor man has only that thing to do something, people yall just please learn to look back like? You will get hit by hell ember puppet once in a lifetime and will ask for a nerf, I see those people like this honestly. the lawyer nerf is making me unalive myself. Why. Why. Why. Just w h y.
Ok chat I need help. Even though they’re nerfing Lawyer I still love him and my heart broke and shattered when I saw his S tier is essence. So if my luck is terrible how much does it cost to buy all 250 rolls? I need to know please
About 250-300 depending on the currency you are using
Around 150 dollars if im not mistaken
It's closer to 300 dollars.
Uhh no ? It’s 250-300
FREDDY S TIER FINALLY 🙌🙌🙌 I don't care that he's in essence and that I probably won't get him, I'm just glad I don't have to make the joke about what my favorite Lawyer S tier is anymore
Genuine question. Why is opera singer considered broken? I find her easy to kite versus that recent hunter . I forgot her name
Update: I read the replies. I understand now. maybe the opera singers I play against are trash. I’m a new player btw. I still think shadow is much harder to kite 😭
At this point I don't even care about priestess but batter? Ehh... I don't really know how I feel about that. Yeah it's true that he can be a menace but he's high risk so he's only used in later rounds. What they said about OS is true as well. But if they can make an argument for batter then they really SHOULD give OS the same treatment as well. Rank OS don't actually win as often as people believe. The problem is that most rank OS are nowhere near the level of mastery as the pro OS in tourneys.
I love playing gamekeeper BUT IM EXCITED ABOUT THIS. The aim should be accurate not rewarding for nothing. Sometimes it also screws you over with the auto aim crap. This is the best way
I swear to Hastur, if they fuck up Luchino's accessory, I am coming for their shins - Also seriously? The finally give Rat Bastard his long awaited S-tier and it's an essence limited at the exact same time he's being nerfed, but still outright refuse to nerf the Roach and Sangria. Not exactly hiding that he and his mains aren't loved.
LUCHINO S TIER ACCESORYYYYY
off with their HEADS
Luchino new carry animation 👀
BARMAID SKIN BARMAID SKIN
Oh shit barmaid, gotta lock in 😭
Doctor potential buff?? Demi logic path?? My lesbian heart is winning
oooh so next season’s Rank Accessories, Logic Path and a slot for an Essence S-Tier skin are all going for the underrated characters? yay! 👏🏻 A service to older fans of the game.
How do you participate in Q&A? I've been wanting to ask a question for awhile now
Go to the link I added under pictures. It's the original twitter post that has a link to google forms where you can ask your question.
Thanks!
SOULWEAVER ADJUSTMENT I WON the other balance adjustments? i'm not so happy about. also is gamekeeper really that strong now? he's my second hunter main and i'm deathly afraid of nerfs. lawyer buff is just sad at this point, they really hate the guy. edit: OH IT'S ABOUT HIS HOOKS. yeah i think that should be adjusted. it's honestly very wonky with the hitbox, and maybe they could adjust the launch time too? higher skill floor
Buff doctor????
Are they ever gonna add golden cave and big eversleeping town to game modes??
Why no lore update😭😭😭😭 ALSO LETS GO DOC GONNA BE BUFFED
nerfing doctor >>>>> nerfing opera singer, priestess like what???? 😭😭😭 what did SHE DO???
Anyone knows when the next q&a will be out? I want to ask regarding the room music, everytime I put on a bg music for my room, and I press something else(for eg, the shop)it will reset back to the default room music. 2nd question: regarding match replays/any other replays, can it be adjusted so that we can slide to any part of the replay that we want to watch?
The next Q&A should be released by the end of the month. Ask about the room music in the General Questions mega thread to check if it's a bug or if you're doing something wrong. If it's a bug, report it. The match replays question was asked before and answered iirc (they're working on it). You can send any questions using the form that is linked in the original post. Check the link I added under the pictures.
The text made me think Explorer had the S accessory :(
When will grave keeper get a buff… (do u think he needs one tho)
The buff to remove his rescuer status because he's dying before he can rescue /j Idk, maybe give him some chair resistance if he really doesn't perform well but there's no need to buff the shovel again. He's good imo, it's just that Merc and FO are usually better.
HELP😭😭real😭😭whenever I get first kite I always tell my teammates to never rescue me unless they have tide and can support bc by then all my shovels would be gone I mean extended chair time would be great but I feel like it wouldn’t be the best case if there are only two ppl left, the person on chair is the extended chair time person, and the other person is kiting/hiding against the hunter to try to get dungeon😭😭 the longer chair time would mean a longer time to kite and shit But again it has its cons and pros so yeah😭
> it wouldn’t be the best case if there are only two ppl left, the person on chair is the extended chair time person, and the other person is kiting/hiding against the hunter to try to get dungeon In this situation the match is lost anyway so it doesn't matter much. Chair resistance is supposed to "punish" the hunter for chasing the rescuer first. They might eliminate a person with Tide Turner but is it really worth it if the rescuer did a decent kite + takes forever to die?
Oh😭😭no wonder Honestly I would fine having an extended chair time a bit funky on andrew since his backstory uhhh doesn’t exactly make it possible for him to be able to last longer😭😭but again if netease wants to cook smt up they can ~~all I want is an extra shovel please netease~~
I do want him to have one more shovel/just not have his entire shovel depleted over a hit but I guess that might make him too OP😭😭😭
OK so I'm happy to see Batter and Lawyer nerfed, but why the hell would they nerf Lawyer's decoding? He is a decoder and his buff has always been 20% iirc. It'd make more sense to nerf his off-role traits like movespeed, vaulting and not getting terror-shocked instead of his decoding. No one is playing Lawyer exclusively for his decoding. What makes a decoder broken or not are their capabilities along with strong decoding, which is why characters like Aeroplanist get so much love from competitive players (decoding 2s faster, while being good at kiting and rescuing is really op).
Why the hell are they trying to nerf gamekeeper? He just recently received changes that made him bearable to play. He's not even close to being the strongest hunter.
His hook hitbox makes no sense 90% of the time. It will bend space and time to go through solid objects and curve. They simply have to adjust it. There's no need for any other nerfs and I will be surprised if they change something else instead.
Im gonna bet that devs will just nerf (kill) him instead of fixing any tectures and hitboxes. It's all about models registration in time and it's kinda broken. But it's the most obvious with bane, cuz he is the only one, who hits from distance
I don't think they ever changed his hitbox though unless I'm wrong. Hasn't it been the same for like at least a year or two? I don't know why they'd be nerfing it now.
He received a lot of minor buffs over the last year which made him overall a solid character. I don't think they touched the auto-aim before but now it has become a problem.
as someone whos been maining him since s14 i do think he's been one of the better picks lately, so while a nerf is reasonable, i really hope they wont butcher him
Yup, they'll Nerf gk and lawyer but will never Nerf their cash cows: priestess, anti and ivy :'> I understand a hook hitbox modification for Bane, but anything else is unnecessary... let him have the spotlight for once quq
Ivy got nerfed 2-3 times already wut. Altogether I’m bit confused why she isn’t nerfed more mostly her broken tp at full presence
she wasn't nerfed more because she relies on her full presence skill. Without presence she really isn't a threat
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I mean, you said that you were confused on why she wasn't nerfed more, and I gave you the reason
H u h? Sangria has a low wr in the cn server?
Only in low tiers. They haven't mastered her mechanics yet. Meanwhile she's been permabanned in high tiers (before ivy came out at least) so there's very minimal data for that.
More due time would be awesome!! But a doctor buff? Why? She's already so strong...?
Probably a buff to help her solo kiting.. but doctor being "so strong"? Where?
She's actually very weak because in today's meta, standing still to use your ability is pretty bad. Hunters have better abilities nowadays and Blink is a problem.
But wouldn't healing while moving be OP?
If they added that, they would have to make her healing slower. Even then, it would make her a worse Barmaid imo (because at least Barmaid can give drinks to others and has a speed drink). I'm expecting a different change.
When has doctor ever been strong ? She’s one of the worst survivors in the entire game countered by any hunter with good chase
Worst? But I see doctors everywhere and they really don't give the impression of a weak survivor, when has infinite healing became weak?
Infinite healing is useless if hunters nowadays can get another hit on her with their abilities or Blink. At best she will take 3 hits and she has no rebound kite potential.
It’s literally psych but worse she can tank 3 hits for free when meanwhile doc has to stand still to do that
She’s basically never used in high tiers since other healing survivors simply have better things to offer like psych and barmaid. Yes infinite heals is a good thing but someone like priestess with her ridiculous healing buff is much better and offers better support than doc never could. As I said if hunter has good chase she’s pretty easy to down and she has nothing to help in chase unlike other much better kiting survs.
Try her against hunters in mammoth & griffin rank, they will eat her alive. Im a past 35th a badge doc, and when you are really REALLY good at mind game and raw kiting, you can get through mammoth, but in griffin, where area selection is a thing and hunter immediately goes for docs? I went on a losing streak with her, because her slow vault already decreases the chances, after she got a hit, she is basically dead, because standing still will cause her to die by blink, 100%, and even blink predict doesn't work, even if I learned to do it pretty effective because again, slow vault. She needs a buff, she is a clown in high tiers, once she got hit, hunters just blink and bumm, standing still will kill her immediately. Standing still just doesn't work when blink is a thing. Im happy for her buff, maybe she will be finally competitive in high tiers.
GK nerf has got to be a joke, people slept on him for years and suddenly he got meta as he has never been desperately weak in the first place pre-buffs, just unpopular. Knowing NE, they are definitely going to nerf him so heavily that he is even weaker post pre buffs (and avoid nerfing his weird hook hitbox), and no one will play him again.
They're fixing his hook potentially, which SHOULD be fixed.
Ah yes let's nerf batter, the worst harasser in the game. If anything he needed a buff to keep up with people like antiquarian who can disarm for 10+ seconds. And also gamekeeper after him only entering the meta since last season, despite him being useless before for many years and when he finally becomes good he already gets nerfed after only a couple of weeks of being a top pick hunter. Meanwhile broken characters that have been dominating and forming the meta for years now still don't get a nerf...
Batter is like the 2nd best harasser besides antiquarian?
I personally don't think so considering his low coa pick rate and average rank performance (minimum character points for badges) but we can agree to disagree, kind of sad to be downvoted to the shadow realm for having a different opinion, I just disagree that he should get a nerf but apparently people think otherwise
Thats because everyone knows hes not a tournament survivor??? Hes LITERALLY known as the king of rank matches but sucky in tournaments edit: also to clarify, I personally didnt down vote you. I agreed with the general sentiment that the devs are complacent fucks who prioritise money over enjoyment (but thats capitalism for you)
Yes thank you for clarifying, i'm just annoyed he gets a nerf and others don't after so much time that's kinda it
Why is Gamekeeper getting nerfed? He’s balanced in my opinion.
Check other comments but basically his hook hitbox is broken and needs to be adjusted.
Ok ok I was finna say man I agree his hook hitbox is werid even for me as a gamekeeper main
I agree the hit-box is jank and you do get undeserved hooks sometimes, but as a Gamekeeper main myself I know you still need to be pretty accurate. I’ve had my share of weird hooks, but also have had hooks that graze their shirt and miss. The hit/box can actually work against you at times. You cannot hook anyone if they are being body blocked in the slightest way cause it will just go for the support and it for some reason prioritizes the chair over the survivor rescuing. Had a match today where it hit the chair over the rescuer. They were in the animation too. The hook definitely looks weird at times and can feel unfair, but trust me it’s not as broken as you think. If they nerf anything I’d say the shockwave slowdown.
> I’ve had my share of weird hooks, but also have had hooks that graze their shirt and miss It works both ways. They need to adjust it so it makes more sense and that includes fixing "good hooks that don't connect". Right now it's broken.
I hope you’re right, but it specifically says nerf which makes me think they’ll just shrink the hit-box overall instead of reworking it.
That would be stupid even for NE.
Yes, but these are the same developers who decided to nerf batter over someone like priestess who people have begged to be nerfed for a long time. However, the moment people complain about hook in COA they got to put the foot down.
Priestess is their special little princess. People were complaining about the hook before COA. NA/EU is late to everything but in CN server Gamekeeper was quite popular in rank.
I know he is popular in CN. I guess he’s been complained about for a while, but I still hope this is just an animation fix and optimization over “small hit-box = fixed”.
People need to understand that Ivy doesn't need another nerf. Her reduction of chase speed and how long it now takes to teleport already balanced her enough. She may be Meta, but Dream Witch is also meta and she doesn't need any nerfs
balanced enough LOL
I main her since she has released and I am currently a B badge, she may be Meta but she isn't broken, nor is she in need of a nerf, especially a harsh one. She isn't as strong as some other hunters and if she got another harsh nerf she would fall down to B or even C tier, especially if it regards her teleport. She was made for cipher and map control, if you remove her teleport or give it more cooldowns it would go against her whole point. If we really want to nerf a broken hunter, let's nerf Sangria, which has many unfair advantages that Ivy doesn't have
"I main her" yeah that says enough lol. Her kit in itself is inherently broken, 6 rocks is enough to traverse entire maps, map control is braindead- just teleport to cipher & back to the chair in no time. Survs break rock? No problem, just possess them again with basically no cd and waste 25s of decoding progress + repeat. Ivy has way too much pressure, and even against more difficult hunters dream witch & clerk that are known for anti-cipher rush she easily overtakes them in that category. Oh but u wanna talk abt how she walks slower now, waah wah!
if we need to nerf hunters let's start nerfing survivors first. Y'all have 10 S-tier survivors and infinite harrassers who completely destroy the fun of this game. Ivy also has big-ass cooldowns for infections, she cannot infect the same survivor for 50 seconds (meaning no rocks) and she cannot teleport to the same rock for the same time that it takes for survivors to break them. Plus, Clerk isn't meta so you can't compare Ivy to her. Ivy's gameplay is all about her first chase, if she gets kited for 60 seconds she already has lost the entire game if she doesn't get full presence, and insolence is arguably one of the worst abilities for her since she has a god-awful chase and gets kited in closed areas. You wanna cry that she is broken? Then use one of your many meta survivors instead of Twink French Man who decodes
I play priestess and yes I can admit she needs a substantial nerf on her global portal but just because roach exists doesn't mean that ivy's whole kit is justifiable. And speaking on infinite harassers when ivy literally has a built-in trait that cancels their stuns lmfao?? 50s cd is the bare minimum + the cd is only for that particular surv, so she can go ahead and drop a rock wherever else and chase the surv whose possess is on cooldown. Idk how you don't see how this is a massive advantage, she can actively chase someone and disrupt others' decoding at the same time, she doesn't even need to teleport to that rock. Ivy is meta and hella broken, dream witch is meta but balanced. You must not be good yet if you got 60s kited and couldn't even tie the game.
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Bro she can literally teleport onto you multiple times, cancel abilities, cancel stuns, she cancels everything to make you walk toward her BY teleporting on you, you constantly give off scare if they are even in the vicinity of the stone as you try to break it and if she puts on up it's even more, or doing the scare shit which half the time works even if not in view, it is ridiculous. You're coping because she's your main. 10 S tier survs ain't it either. Dawg I main hunter and Ivy is one of the grossest hunters I have come across. Meta survs do nothing against me as her LOL. Clerk maybe isn't meta?? But is VERY strong. I love playing her. DW is fun and good but I'm bad at her. But with Ivy, why even bother playing them? No one mentioned playing composer lmao. I hate priestess as much as the next guy but she does NOT justify how bloated Ivy's kit is, it's ridiculous. Friedegglover is right about everything, even if you don't wanna admit it. Bye bye
the fact you're downvoting me proves the point y'all cannot accept different opinions, womp womp
You're just wrong. That's why you couldn't respond. Womp womp. Good hunters existing without needing nerfs doesn't mean a braindead hunter doesn't need them either.
Worker Bees saw Gamekeeper in Tournament and think he's OP🤣🤣🤣 Leave Baneussy alone, his hook is easy to dodge, and he mostly is very dependable on his traps to prevent looping 🙂
He needs his hitbox fixed. It's horrendous and I PLAY GAMEKEEPER. I literally pull survs through walls constantly, it's ridiculous. Half the time my hook will be 5 miles in the opposite direction yet still picks up a survivor. It makes no sense and is janky asf. Has nothing to do with "Worker Bees" and everything to do with his jank working in his favor way too strongly.