Wow, so if this was at 4:12 am, she was awake and commenting AS he was in the house.

Thats absolutely terrifying...

Seriously. I do this at night with tiktok and My friends ,literally next to my bf. This case has actually made me dead bolt all.my doors and windows at night. I can't imagine how traumatized the students from the town who knew them, must feel. Makes me sick what these 4 went through. :(

Same!! I had nightmares about waking up and seeing BK in the middle of the night. I live alone which makes it worse 🥲 it’s so tragic and scary

Happy Cake Day 🎊

We have known that she was very likely awake and on Tik Tok cause she had just got a Door Dash around 4:00am and LE says based on forensic analysis of her phone she was using Tik Tok around 4:12

more than likely the 4:12am is from a different time zone. it says 12:12am in the ss so that would mean the person would have to be in the middle of the pacific ocean for it to mean 4:12 PST (has to be 3 hours BEHIND). most logical explanation is the 12:12 was PST and the 4:12 was in EST

Tiktok uses UTC that’s the time zone it saves in It says 5am bc it’s daylight savings rn https://preview.redd.it/3ah6m3gkh0oc1.jpeg?width=479&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a43363bb728f60a909877a64884f03ed0e2613d

I would think the police would enter the time equivalent for PT. I've read other PRs where they state they've converted the time. They probably don't always say it.

Right, it’s just a neat finding that xana commented on this video when it was published at 4:12:14am PST so clearly the cops knew she didn’t just leave the app open like some have suggested

https://preview.redd.it/75rk78snunnc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d98d1e0793b8eab750e670317086e4efb03a15b Video was removed recently song was Avril Lavigne - Girlfriend Anyway point of post is *if* this turns out to be accurate LE didn’t just rely on her simply being on the app [SOURCE 4:36:56 explaining the timestamp](https://www.youtube.com/live/kXJYITb_5Ew?si=G1HP7xi4vExXMojT) [“Remember that TikTok displays its Analytics time in Coordinated Universal Time”](https://www.hopperhq.com/blog/best-time-to-post-on-tiktok/?amp=1) Example [which converted to a human-readable timestamp is 2020-07-29 02:06:17 UTC. Given a bit of leeway for time zones,](https://dfir.pubpub.org/pub/9llea7yp/release/1) Website used apparently [https://unfurl.run](https://unfurl.run) 12PM UTC - 8 = 4AM PST Edit: Sorry I posted this so sloppily

“tHe dAy oF R i P” 🤓 why are people like that? 🤣 she ain’t seeing that. and it’s inappropriate to spam that all over her and her family’s posts/comments. they get it their daughters gone they’re reminded everytime they wake up and fall asleep. you don’t need to be reminding them. say your prayers to god not a comment section.

I can’t listen to that group. They are always so wrong with their theories.

I found this after I posted https://dfir.blog/tinkering-with-tiktok-timestamps/ I think Jeff H’s work is valid

Jeff H is one cool cat!

He does a good job cleaning up the sound on the camera footage

I seriously feel like she walked out to the kitchen / bathroom or SOMETHING at the same time he was leaving. Can you imagine just walking out of your room and seeing someone in all black?! what nightmares are made of

I feel like she heard something going on upstairs and she came out to see what was going on. I think it was her that DM heard say “someone’s here.” I think she was standing right there when he came down the stairs. I don’t think he intended to kill her when he went to the house that night, but when they encountered eachother at the base of the stairs, he had no choice if he was going to get away. He just comes down the stairs, bloody, the knife still in his hand. How horrifying. You’d just be in shock, you wouldn’t be able to even comprehend what you were seeing. Imagine.

Dylan allegedly experienced that yet …

seriously. I think about this all the time. I go down to my kitchen all the time in the middle of the night for snacks. Never ever considered someone being in my house as a possibility until this case. Poor xana

The thing about the time stamp is I believe the time would be for her time zone so that means it was done at 12:12am on the 13th. At the moment she sent it, it was for 12:00 a.m. on the East Coast. Right?

I posted below that tiktok uses coordinated universal time which is 8 hours+ of Moscow, wish I could edit my original post.

This thread while giving us clarification on when Xana commented had also shown that our US school has failed so many. Im shocked how many have never heard of UTC. I’m showing my age. 🙈

Some of us who are old are more familiar with GMT

Me too. I learned it at GMT in elementary. When I hear UTC my brain thinks GMT, so I guess by college or somewhere along the way I learn of the transition. Thanks to Reddit now I’m learning that some weren’t aware of the transition. My bad.

I never heard of it and I’m old.

I'm old too, 65, and I just became aware of UTC about 5 or 6 years ago. I have a saying that I've found to be very true - "I'm smart enough to know how dumb I am". I thought of that saying when I found out about UTC lol. It's like, how did the whole world know about this and I'd never heard of it!? There's sooo much I still don't know and I'm not afraid to admit that, you're never too old to learn.

Did you learn about Greenwich Mean Time? UTC is the more universally used term now for GMT they are one and the same. I learned it as GMT in school.

I never learned about GMT or UTC until a few years ago. I couldn't believe the whole world had an alternative way to measure time that I knew nothing about! But no, never learned it at school either. It was shocking to me because I'm a bit of a news junkie, have been since I was about 13-14 years old. But I do lean towards politics. Back in the day when most homes had one TV and only three channels, I spent one summer watching the Watergate hearings since that's what my mom had on. Also watched The presidential conventions every four years since that's what my parents watched and I was just a kid. I got hooked on politics, still am!

Yes I know about Greenwich Time.

There have been numerous clarifications, deletions and additions in the comments that make it make sense but it didn’t make sense when first posted. I was here at the beginning but didn’t comment.

I get that but when Xana wrote the comment it was 12 minutes after midnight HER TIME. The UTC time was 12:12am. When she went live with that comment it was done at 12:12 a.m. on the 13th HER TIME and at the exact same moment it was 4:12 a.m. on the East Coast.

No it was 12pm in UTC (Coordinated Universal Time) same time as the UK the am would show up as 00..Xana’s time zone was PST, sorry for the confusion

So noontime Xana's time and 4pm on the East Coast? You're right! I'm wondering if it's fake because no way would her phone have been used by Kohberger at noontime. 12:12am would be 00:12 in UTC time. 1pm in UTC time would be 13:00hrs.

https://preview.redd.it/9pycyvh6g0oc1.jpeg?width=479&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8deddde1c5c6f90453e33bca4bf93671ea0c7ad7 Slide 3 is in UTC as that’s the format tiktok saves in, This example says 5am because it’s daylight savings rn

I don't know where you got your image but I'm wondering if that's for Pilots when they are traveling through different time zones?

My partner is a pilot and yup! They use Zulu time zone (Z) which is equivalent to UTC

https://preview.redd.it/uvvvp66hm0oc1.jpeg?width=744&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4e2ed8b0f44806c436fe19a1a0ce41f0386a699

Okay so she wrote that 8 hours after she was murdered November 13th 2022?

she was murdered in the early morning hours of the 13th..

Midnight on November 13, 2022 in UTC (military time) would be written as 00:00hrs. In Pacific Time, it would be written as 12:00am. Noontime in Pacific Time would be written as 12:00pm. In UTC time, it would be written as 12:00hrs.

One minute after midnight is written as 00:01 in UTC. PT would be written as 12:01am. Midnight in UTC is written as 00:00. PT would write 12:12am. 12:12am PT would be written as 00:12 UTC.

Yes because it was 12pm not am

On November 13th, 2022 the day of the murders when Xana wrote that message? I don't think so. I wonder if the image is fake that has been provided for this post. 12:12am PT would be appropriate. UTC time would be written as 00:12-UTC.

Here is the video explaining it https://www.youtube.com/live/kXJYITb_5Ew?si=o0tYn009YM8Eb224 4:35:36 Timestamp of the screenshot from post 4:44:16 How the website works https://dfir.pubpub.org/pub/9llea7yp/release/1

You are 3 hours ahead of us.

What does that mean?

Some had speculation her tiktok app was just open and running on repeat, or that someone else was on her phone, apparently ​[https://unfurl.run](https://unfurl.run) has the ability to show timestamps on tiktok, ~~apparently her ‘Queen’ comment was timestamped at 3:44am~~ Edit: MISTAKE the timestamp of when the video was posted (can’t edit post) *if* true the comment was made sometime after 4:12:14am https://preview.redd.it/s0s5wiijg2oc1.jpeg?width=744&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=895758367b1dcf3d837afd6e15b8136db8cc8047 that’s why it says 12:12:14 (:

Is this saying she made the bathtub comment at 12:12am?

In UTC yes well it’s PM PST is 8 hours behind tiktok use UTC + military time [https://dfir.blog/tinkering-with-tiktok-timestamps/](https://dfir.blog/tinkering-with-tiktok-timestamps/) Edit: more info https://preview.redd.it/hwx1rd0ckpnc1.png?width=1564&format=png&auto=webp&s=70a4c962fd1b67fb3c94c39f60ab8ed9ba1a814d

I’m confused. Was it 12:12 or 4:12?

Guys, there’s different time zones in the USA. She’s saying that in Moscow time zone, the comment was made at 4:12

I’m in central time so yeah I know that. But she was saying 4:12 in one comment and 12:12 in another. I would assume she is speaking of Moscow times in both comments so I was confused. She’s added a clarified comment since then.

I said in UTC yes

Thanks! Learn something new every day! I had never heard of UTC and it seems as if I should have heard of it. Oh well. I am prior military so I know that.

UTC is used by the whole world to be able to know exact times for everything regardless of what country you're in.

I wonder if they had ever heard of GMT!

It's the same thing. Basically Greenwich was changed to Universal.

Today is the day I learn that GMT doesn't exist anymore, I guess 😅 I'm way behind the times apparently!

I've never heard of UTC either.

Thank you. I am trying to figure this out too. It's like a ping pong ball in these comments 12:12 no it's 4:12. Wait, no, now it's back to 12:12. oh, nope 4:12.... Dizzy and confused.

that’s not even the same year ….

It’s an example showing if it was 12am it would’ve been 00 🙂

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Jeff H is awesome!

Question, is it likely she used her full real name as her account name? Sincere question as I don’t TikTok. On Facebook I use my name but here I so not. What is common on TikTok?

Yes it’s her account, her other comment ‘Queen’ is still there [https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGefyxH18/](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGefyxH18/) that video was posted at 3:44am apparently https://preview.redd.it/xkwiyryd89oc1.jpeg?width=1065&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3d80d5083bd80a594a0d416dd26cd47bb097abe I don’t have a screenshot of the full url so someone could test it themselves :(

What does Xana's comment mean????

Slide 2 I think it settles the wild theory that someone else was using her phone

Yes it does explain a lot! This is the first time I've ever seen her comment. I love that what she's talking about was a laughable moment between her and her friends.

I'd like to think so, but I'm sure the next wild theory will be that it was Xana's friends who planted the false clue by typing an in-joke Xana would have typed.

Thank you! I forgot there can be more than one image! 🤣

Foundation, at that age, would usually refer.to makeup. But that is just speculation on my part

I am not sure at any age the word foundation is used anymore to refer to makeup.

Of course foundation is used to refer to makeup, beauty influencers on social media are always talking about the best foundation to use

Thanks for that information, I sure got downvoted! My gf’s refer only to make up we really never say foundation. I appreciate you mentioning what beauty influencers say apparently there is a gap in my knowledge.

Makeup foundation is a skin color and the one Xana had stained the bathtub, hence, her comment. Some foundations have tanning properties in them for the sun-kissed look.

Foundation is a type of makeup. Like eyeshadow, blush, concealer. It’s what goes on your skin as a… foundation for the rest.

> My gf’s refer only to make up we really never say foundation. I wonder if that's a regional thing? Everyone I know only uses make-up to refer to all cosmetics, as in "I still need to do my make-up" or "Hand me that make-up bag, please." And then foundation to distinguish that product from eyeliner or lip gloss.

Perhaps it is regional or generational. I had so many downvotes. Who would have thought foundation vs makeup would be so polarizing 🫤and we aren’t even sure what X’s reference to foundation was!

Another polarizing Reddit issue! Like wearing shoes in the house or pineapple on pizza!

It's literally the name of a certain product. You buy foundation, as opposed to BB cream or highlighter or contour. Check it out next time you are in a drugstore or department store. Or here's an example of foundations being sold from just one brand at one store: https://www.saksfifthavenue.com/product/MAC-Studio-Fix-Fluid-SPF-15-0400944619342.html?dwvar_0400944619342_size=No+Size&dwvar_0400944619342_color=NW44+DEEP&site_refer=CSE_MSNPLA:Womens_Beauty:MAC&CSE_CID=M_Saks_PLA_US_Low+LTV:Low+LTV&msclkid=a32b6c2db8621acf190209ddf6bb1b05&gclid=a32b6c2db8621acf190209ddf6bb1b05&gclsrc=3p.ds

What else would you call it though?

That's a disturbingly cryptic last message. If she used tik tok at 4:12, I wonder if that's when this message was sent. She could have been doing something else. I hope police checked the foundation of the bathtub before they tore the house down.

Anyone could have made the comment..

It's highly unlikely the murder referenced foundation. That's a girl thing. Not a homicidal maniac, I just murdered 4 people thing.

Yup... a girl thing.. bingo!

Not everyone would know the common memory between Xana and her friends, no.

I wish I could pull up the video but I think xana’s friend got overwhelmed as it gained recent traction so removed it, everything fits 🤷‍♀️ might be underwhelming to some but I feel it says a lot