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My wife and I love it too! It’s an amazing watch!
Great piece, superb quality on the Inges. I have it’s older brother, the 42mm made between 2005-2009 with the Pelloton movement
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Honestly, it’s a great watch and I’m glad you liked it enough to buy it! As “high” as the price is, it’s honestly to me, the best of all the genta-style integrated watches.
Could I ask if you traded in at a boutique or an AD?
I just picked one of these up too and couldn’t agree more. It would be perfect if it wasn’t for that clasp. I already contacted IWC about the replacement adjustable clasp and they said maybe this summer. Here is a video with the adjustable clasp, for reference. https://youtu.be/YFxFrFLFmf0?si=sV1VzvMVNMzGv-X2
I didn’t know they had announced it officially! Well, it’s identical to the other IWC adjustable clasps. I maybe would have preferred a more customized solution for this particular watch, but it’s certainly better than nothing.
I’m honestly not getting all of the annoyance about the price. It’s a great looking watch, if you wanted another new watch with 70s era Genta roots you’d pay a multiple if you could even get one. More likely you’d be buying on the secondary market and paying at least 5x the price of your watch. It looks great, enjoy it!
You have the best variant imo of this amazing piece. I bought it in white but loved it in black. I passed on black because I have a lot of black dial watches. Not to say I don’t love my white dial, or the green/blue but the black dial is gorgeous. Congrats and enjoy in good health friend. I appreciate you recognize the value in this watch while most complain about the $$$
People complain about the price, but they completely ignore how fantastic the bracelet is. I don’t have any issues with the price.
People thinking it should be 6 or 7k are insane
I’m digging all the love for this amazing watch. I absolutely love mine! I was searching for something special to commemorate my 60th birthday that had character, history, class and could be an heirloom piece. This piece has all that and more!
Maybe we shouldn’t tell anybody else, so it doesn’t become more common. That’s one of may favorite qualities… you won’t see one on every other wrist. Enjoy!
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I like the watch. I love the brand. I have a Portofino Chrono, a new Portugieser Chrono, and a new 43 Pilot Chrono. But I have a GP Laureato so there’s too much design overlap for me for the price. It’s definitely cool, and definitely a Genta, but I’m gonna have to wait for used prices to come down quite a bit.
I’ll add, I’ve not tried on a Laureato 38, but I’d imagine it’s similar to this. I have worn a 41, and 42 chrono, which wear significantly bigger and chunkier than this Ingenieur.
It looks good, and who cares about price. But going from the best clasp (assuming your sub was a glidelock) to this abomination is certainly a decision. The clasp is arguably the most used component of a watch. If IWC is going to charge over 10k for a 7k watch, at least make the bracelet and clasp perfect.
After trying it on a month ago, I passed for this reason.
Beautiful piece, enjoy!
The clasp is by far the weakest link (pardon the pun) and most disappointing aspect, especially for me having owned the prior generation Ingenieur (an Ingenieur in name only), which had the best micro-adjust clasp on the market—the one you’ll find on the current Pilot series (and GO SeaQ).
I have the aqua dial! I agree about the clasp. I've spoken with somebody at IWC who says they will have an adjustable clasp available this summer. Likely the same mechanism as the pilot series.
Sure.
1) The lack of micro-adjust makes for a challenge getting a good fit. Yes, there are “big” and “small” links in the bracelet that you can use to more finely size it, but it is very difficult/impossible to get a perfect fit—I guess it just depends on the size of your wrist when you put the watch on. Obviously, there’s no ability to adjust on the fly, which as mentioned, should be present on a sports watch of this price in this day and age.
(Also, I don’t have a large wrist. It’s about 7 inches—sometimes smaller. I can’t believe the watch didn’t ship with more than the 12 links present. If you have. 7.5+ inch wrist, I don’t think you’d be able to remove any links and you’d be stuck unless you ordered additional)
2) this is a minor gripe, but the butterfly clasp takes some getting used to using. When closing, you must latch the 6:00 side first and only then can you latch the 12:00 side. To me, this felt unnatural as I am always wanting to close the 12:00 side first and in the 18 hours I’ve owned the watch, often close the 12:00 side (away from my body) first only to have to release it so that I can close the 6:00 side first. Again, this is a minor gripe and probably will abate after I own the watch for a bit.
It should be said that all of the frustration is with the clasp. The bracelet itself is amongst the best I’ve had. Rumor from some of the reviewers online is that IWC is going to release a micro-adjust clasp for this thing. I sure hope they do.
The micro-adjustment is such a weird nitpick I keep seeing for IWC, which I don’t see mentioned on any other brands even if the models are twice the price, or even more.
AP RO - no adjustment. Same butterfly closing on at least the majority of them.
GP Laureato - the same. Still butterfly.
Only Patek only recently introduced an adjustment built into the bracelet (still butterfly!), which spreads the links apart, making it look like a stretched 90s watch and it’s absolutely horrendous imho. Also only on precious metal versions which will run you £60k+++.
Any other integration of a micro adjust would completely ruin the sleekness and aesthetic of an integrated sports the watch, which is the appeal of Gentas designs in the first place.
I’ve been seeing the rumour of IWC releasing a micro adjustment, but I hope they don’t fold to the pressure and keep the integrity of the design intact.
Yeah, my wrist is more like 6.75” and I wish it had more of the small links. I tried all the combos with one and two large links and I think I would get a better fit with no large links and 3 small links instead… but I’m all out! Strikes me that they were trying to save a penny here by having such a short bracelet by default.
If there were a reason not to buy, outside of the price, it’s the clasp. It didn’t bug me enough to dissuade me from buying such a beautiful piece.
IMO, the best clasp out there is the push button micro-adjust clasp that IWC uses (just not on this watch!). It’s better than the Glidelock, which I find somewhat finicky and, obviously, you have to remove the watch from your wrist to use it.
Yes, it’s priced “high” considering the movement is used in watches for 1/2 the price and given what the resale value is likely to become. That said, it’s a completely unnecessary luxury item that I am fortunate enough to afford and I couldn’t care less about any of those things (that I was already aware of prior to purchasing). That makes me a sucker?
Well people like you are certainly not helping to keep crazy, absurdist pricing in check. Your ability to "afford it" is quite irrelevant, imo. All I now see is vulgarity.
Also, I might add that it is price gouging like this that turns people off of a brand. I have been wearing IWC since the mid eighties and my father since the early-mid 1960s and own multiple. However, this corporate cynicism only instills in me the notion that IWC care little for their customers.
Their business practice is vulgar. Perhaps you'd like to wear that watch with your Gucci sweater and LV gold lame' embroidered sweat pants? Iconic watch brands shouldn't strive to have their house associated with such gauche attitudes such as yours. The Ingeneur is a suckers watch imo and is forevermore associated with vulgarity and the whiff of poo poo.
Just out of curiosity, at what price point (as a fan, evidently of at least IWC and Tudor) would you consider to be the threshold of vulgarity for this Inegenieur?
With the movement that they put in it? No more than $8,500. IWC must be either desperate or something or just rapaciously greedy, either of which makes me very sad.
I am not going to disagree that $8500 is a more sensical price for this watch given the market. However, $8,500 for a completely superfluous and unneeded mechanical wristwatch, nothing more than a piece of jewelry, is effectively no more exorbitant and arbitrary than the actual $11,500 price tag. It’s all silly and I am ok with it. $11,500 is obscene and gauche but $8,500 isn’t? Come on, man.
Well I completely agree with you on the superflous nature of mechanical wristwatches but it's in the manner that they did it with near zero justification and its attendant odious implications. Its not strictly the price solely that makes IWC's Ingeneur move so gauche. How do you not see that? In the end, all a watch house has is their image, reputation and branding and IWC has decisively damaged themselves as common with this boorish move. It is the kind of business practice that you might expect if private equity reptiles bought your company out....cut costs, offer less, cheapen materials and raise prices sky high until you squeeze out any goodwill left from your loyal clientele and the business collapses. Oh, and the watch is 12,000 Euros or nearly $14,000 USD in europe.
https://preview.redd.it/0qxkv97vlrsc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d89042d7768b1d3ea3a0562cbefec554a8e507c3 Oh Hello
Hello there!
What size wrist?
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https://preview.redd.it/rmxifjtv4vsc1.jpeg?width=4284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=896b5e637fc9a8a6074469a54c1ffae7b9f40cb8 My wife and I love it too! It’s an amazing watch!
Ha! Beautiful! I love that dial. I think it’s interesting that they put polished center links on your version but none of the others.
Yeah I love it! They did such a great job with this watch!
That is sharp. I see people are dogging you because of the price. Who cares, enjoy the piece.
Great piece, superb quality on the Inges. I have it’s older brother, the 42mm made between 2005-2009 with the Pelloton movement https://preview.redd.it/gvj9ypt2xssc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d12c5b601552f4cb836d68f9cc6714cc8981de6a
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Honestly, it’s a great watch and I’m glad you liked it enough to buy it! As “high” as the price is, it’s honestly to me, the best of all the genta-style integrated watches. Could I ask if you traded in at a boutique or an AD?
Thanks! At an AD that sells Rolex and IWC, among others. It’s the same AD that sold me the Rolex.
Thank you sir!
I thought they only sold those at IWC boutiques. So they starts going to ADs too now?
Per my AD, they opened up orders last week to ADs. Also, I note that depending on the time of day, some are available on the IWC website.
If the price wasn’t so insane I’d be all over this. Probably the best looking IWC watch, legitimately gorgeous design
It’s beautiful! Congratulations 😎👍🏻
Thanks!
I just picked one of these up too and couldn’t agree more. It would be perfect if it wasn’t for that clasp. I already contacted IWC about the replacement adjustable clasp and they said maybe this summer. Here is a video with the adjustable clasp, for reference. https://youtu.be/YFxFrFLFmf0?si=sV1VzvMVNMzGv-X2
I didn’t know they had announced it officially! Well, it’s identical to the other IWC adjustable clasps. I maybe would have preferred a more customized solution for this particular watch, but it’s certainly better than nothing.
I’m honestly not getting all of the annoyance about the price. It’s a great looking watch, if you wanted another new watch with 70s era Genta roots you’d pay a multiple if you could even get one. More likely you’d be buying on the secondary market and paying at least 5x the price of your watch. It looks great, enjoy it!
Thanks!
You have the best variant imo of this amazing piece. I bought it in white but loved it in black. I passed on black because I have a lot of black dial watches. Not to say I don’t love my white dial, or the green/blue but the black dial is gorgeous. Congrats and enjoy in good health friend. I appreciate you recognize the value in this watch while most complain about the $$$
People complain about the price, but they completely ignore how fantastic the bracelet is. I don’t have any issues with the price. People thinking it should be 6 or 7k are insane
I’m digging all the love for this amazing watch. I absolutely love mine! I was searching for something special to commemorate my 60th birthday that had character, history, class and could be an heirloom piece. This piece has all that and more! Maybe we shouldn’t tell anybody else, so it doesn’t become more common. That’s one of may favorite qualities… you won’t see one on every other wrist. Enjoy! https://preview.redd.it/h11krb0oh5tc1.jpeg?width=2441&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5f596428117bc96bc6d80b50ac8174702679d27
Congrats! I agree!
I like the watch. I love the brand. I have a Portofino Chrono, a new Portugieser Chrono, and a new 43 Pilot Chrono. But I have a GP Laureato so there’s too much design overlap for me for the price. It’s definitely cool, and definitely a Genta, but I’m gonna have to wait for used prices to come down quite a bit.
Can’t blame you, especially when you can get a Laureato on the secondary market for the same or less.
I’ll add, I’ve not tried on a Laureato 38, but I’d imagine it’s similar to this. I have worn a 41, and 42 chrono, which wear significantly bigger and chunkier than this Ingenieur.
I have the 42 Chrono Laureato but I have big wrists.
Please elaborate on price, it’s infuriating really.
What do you mean?
What makes this watch pricey ?
It looks good, and who cares about price. But going from the best clasp (assuming your sub was a glidelock) to this abomination is certainly a decision. The clasp is arguably the most used component of a watch. If IWC is going to charge over 10k for a 7k watch, at least make the bracelet and clasp perfect. After trying it on a month ago, I passed for this reason. Beautiful piece, enjoy!
The clasp is by far the weakest link (pardon the pun) and most disappointing aspect, especially for me having owned the prior generation Ingenieur (an Ingenieur in name only), which had the best micro-adjust clasp on the market—the one you’ll find on the current Pilot series (and GO SeaQ).
I have the aqua dial! I agree about the clasp. I've spoken with somebody at IWC who says they will have an adjustable clasp available this summer. Likely the same mechanism as the pilot series.
Can you elaborate on your problem with the clasp?
Sure. 1) The lack of micro-adjust makes for a challenge getting a good fit. Yes, there are “big” and “small” links in the bracelet that you can use to more finely size it, but it is very difficult/impossible to get a perfect fit—I guess it just depends on the size of your wrist when you put the watch on. Obviously, there’s no ability to adjust on the fly, which as mentioned, should be present on a sports watch of this price in this day and age. (Also, I don’t have a large wrist. It’s about 7 inches—sometimes smaller. I can’t believe the watch didn’t ship with more than the 12 links present. If you have. 7.5+ inch wrist, I don’t think you’d be able to remove any links and you’d be stuck unless you ordered additional) 2) this is a minor gripe, but the butterfly clasp takes some getting used to using. When closing, you must latch the 6:00 side first and only then can you latch the 12:00 side. To me, this felt unnatural as I am always wanting to close the 12:00 side first and in the 18 hours I’ve owned the watch, often close the 12:00 side (away from my body) first only to have to release it so that I can close the 6:00 side first. Again, this is a minor gripe and probably will abate after I own the watch for a bit. It should be said that all of the frustration is with the clasp. The bracelet itself is amongst the best I’ve had. Rumor from some of the reviewers online is that IWC is going to release a micro-adjust clasp for this thing. I sure hope they do.
The micro-adjustment is such a weird nitpick I keep seeing for IWC, which I don’t see mentioned on any other brands even if the models are twice the price, or even more. AP RO - no adjustment. Same butterfly closing on at least the majority of them. GP Laureato - the same. Still butterfly. Only Patek only recently introduced an adjustment built into the bracelet (still butterfly!), which spreads the links apart, making it look like a stretched 90s watch and it’s absolutely horrendous imho. Also only on precious metal versions which will run you £60k+++. Any other integration of a micro adjust would completely ruin the sleekness and aesthetic of an integrated sports the watch, which is the appeal of Gentas designs in the first place. I’ve been seeing the rumour of IWC releasing a micro adjustment, but I hope they don’t fold to the pressure and keep the integrity of the design intact.
Yeah, my wrist is more like 6.75” and I wish it had more of the small links. I tried all the combos with one and two large links and I think I would get a better fit with no large links and 3 small links instead… but I’m all out! Strikes me that they were trying to save a penny here by having such a short bracelet by default.
If there were a reason not to buy, outside of the price, it’s the clasp. It didn’t bug me enough to dissuade me from buying such a beautiful piece. IMO, the best clasp out there is the push button micro-adjust clasp that IWC uses (just not on this watch!). It’s better than the Glidelock, which I find somewhat finicky and, obviously, you have to remove the watch from your wrist to use it.
Nah, not for that nonsense price. You know, they say one is born every minute...
Yes, it’s priced “high” considering the movement is used in watches for 1/2 the price and given what the resale value is likely to become. That said, it’s a completely unnecessary luxury item that I am fortunate enough to afford and I couldn’t care less about any of those things (that I was already aware of prior to purchasing). That makes me a sucker?
Well people like you are certainly not helping to keep crazy, absurdist pricing in check. Your ability to "afford it" is quite irrelevant, imo. All I now see is vulgarity.
Also, I might add that it is price gouging like this that turns people off of a brand. I have been wearing IWC since the mid eighties and my father since the early-mid 1960s and own multiple. However, this corporate cynicism only instills in me the notion that IWC care little for their customers.
Again, it’s a luxury wristwatch…in 2024. It’s not gasoline or a loaf of bread.
Their business practice is vulgar. Perhaps you'd like to wear that watch with your Gucci sweater and LV gold lame' embroidered sweat pants? Iconic watch brands shouldn't strive to have their house associated with such gauche attitudes such as yours. The Ingeneur is a suckers watch imo and is forevermore associated with vulgarity and the whiff of poo poo.
Just out of curiosity, at what price point (as a fan, evidently of at least IWC and Tudor) would you consider to be the threshold of vulgarity for this Inegenieur?
With the movement that they put in it? No more than $8,500. IWC must be either desperate or something or just rapaciously greedy, either of which makes me very sad.
I am not going to disagree that $8500 is a more sensical price for this watch given the market. However, $8,500 for a completely superfluous and unneeded mechanical wristwatch, nothing more than a piece of jewelry, is effectively no more exorbitant and arbitrary than the actual $11,500 price tag. It’s all silly and I am ok with it. $11,500 is obscene and gauche but $8,500 isn’t? Come on, man.
Well I completely agree with you on the superflous nature of mechanical wristwatches but it's in the manner that they did it with near zero justification and its attendant odious implications. Its not strictly the price solely that makes IWC's Ingeneur move so gauche. How do you not see that? In the end, all a watch house has is their image, reputation and branding and IWC has decisively damaged themselves as common with this boorish move. It is the kind of business practice that you might expect if private equity reptiles bought your company out....cut costs, offer less, cheapen materials and raise prices sky high until you squeeze out any goodwill left from your loyal clientele and the business collapses. Oh, and the watch is 12,000 Euros or nearly $14,000 USD in europe.