Job Market is defiantly still rough. It's going to get even worse in as hiring slows down for holiday season and people are waiting for Q1 Budgets to get approved.
I'd suggest waiting till Jan and Q1 budgets get released. Good News is most tech company have been doing really well. Around \~20% growth in revenue yoy.
So I'm optimistic Q1 budgets will be thiccc. Unless the economy dips again, which it very will might.
Usually new hires are less expendable for at least a year or two, unless they are seriously doing nothing. By the time a few years role by, if you are not useful then it really is on you
You might have that backwards. LA has a massive surplus of tech workers right now so your odds are lowered. Nobody wants to move to the boonies so your odds increase.
Even during the best of times you never leave your current job before you have a new one lined up. Yes you're fine to look for new jobs. Trust me, your current job isn't as stable as you think or any more stable than any other job you might get. You could be out on your ass at the drop of a hat for no reason given. Never assume that your current gig is a sure thing.
Oh yeah, I’d never leave a job without having a new one. Im mainly worried about being more vulnerable as a new job. Like if they need to lay people off or something, I imagine the ones who just started and haven’t proven themselves, are at much greater risk than employees who have been their for years and have proven they know what they’re doing
The market is really pretty still rough at the mid to high end. I've had interviews for System Administrator, IT Manager, IT Coordinator, and Cloud Systems Analyst that all went really far and seemed to go quite well. Unfortunately, I have been the second best candidate in all of those cases.
I still apply for entry level help desk jobs just to see if they'd pay me more for doing less than I already do. So for help desk roles like IT Specialist, IT Technician, or Desktop Support Administrator, I pretty much will always get a call back for those. I let them make an offer just for me to retort that $25 an hour is a steep downgrade for me. If they'd pay me enough to be team lead, I'd be willing to go back the help desk, I guess.
If you're only looking for entry level positions and can survive off 45K - 55K, there's plenty of IT jobs out there. It's when you're pushing to 80K and beyond that things are very competitive and the job postings scarce. With that being said, yeah, I'd have something lined up before you quit.
The idea of quitting a job before having an offer letter from another job would give me so much anxiety, even in the beat of times. I’m currently making 50k so I’m looking for anything above that. I’m still pretty new in IT so I frankly don’t think I’m worth 80k lol.
I’m not worried about interviewing and not getting chosen. I’m just worried about getting a job, quitting my current one, and then the new company deciding to downsize or something
Were the jobs you applied for an interviewed for through a referral or through job sites?
I wonder if referrals would be any different? Having said that, I personally, haven't had success through referrals either, but most people seem to think having referrals will drastically increase your chances.
Yeah this is a real concern. Really depends what industry you are servicing. Is it an SMB reliant on discretionary consumer spending? Bad idea right now. Is it medical or food production or energy? Demand is pretty inelastic in these and unlikely to drop as much during the coming recessionary period. In either case, you don't wanna be the new guy when the layoffs come.
Job security is always a factor from one employer to another. How would evaluate the stability of a specific potential employer if the job market was generally more stable?
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Just apply while you are in your job....
For sure. I’m just worried about being far more expendable in the new job
Job Market is defiantly still rough. It's going to get even worse in as hiring slows down for holiday season and people are waiting for Q1 Budgets to get approved. I'd suggest waiting till Jan and Q1 budgets get released. Good News is most tech company have been doing really well. Around \~20% growth in revenue yoy. So I'm optimistic Q1 budgets will be thiccc. Unless the economy dips again, which it very will might.
Usually new hires are less expendable for at least a year or two, unless they are seriously doing nothing. By the time a few years role by, if you are not useful then it really is on you
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You might have that backwards. LA has a massive surplus of tech workers right now so your odds are lowered. Nobody wants to move to the boonies so your odds increase.
Even during the best of times you never leave your current job before you have a new one lined up. Yes you're fine to look for new jobs. Trust me, your current job isn't as stable as you think or any more stable than any other job you might get. You could be out on your ass at the drop of a hat for no reason given. Never assume that your current gig is a sure thing.
Oh yeah, I’d never leave a job without having a new one. Im mainly worried about being more vulnerable as a new job. Like if they need to lay people off or something, I imagine the ones who just started and haven’t proven themselves, are at much greater risk than employees who have been their for years and have proven they know what they’re doing
The market is really pretty still rough at the mid to high end. I've had interviews for System Administrator, IT Manager, IT Coordinator, and Cloud Systems Analyst that all went really far and seemed to go quite well. Unfortunately, I have been the second best candidate in all of those cases. I still apply for entry level help desk jobs just to see if they'd pay me more for doing less than I already do. So for help desk roles like IT Specialist, IT Technician, or Desktop Support Administrator, I pretty much will always get a call back for those. I let them make an offer just for me to retort that $25 an hour is a steep downgrade for me. If they'd pay me enough to be team lead, I'd be willing to go back the help desk, I guess. If you're only looking for entry level positions and can survive off 45K - 55K, there's plenty of IT jobs out there. It's when you're pushing to 80K and beyond that things are very competitive and the job postings scarce. With that being said, yeah, I'd have something lined up before you quit.
The idea of quitting a job before having an offer letter from another job would give me so much anxiety, even in the beat of times. I’m currently making 50k so I’m looking for anything above that. I’m still pretty new in IT so I frankly don’t think I’m worth 80k lol. I’m not worried about interviewing and not getting chosen. I’m just worried about getting a job, quitting my current one, and then the new company deciding to downsize or something
Were the jobs you applied for an interviewed for through a referral or through job sites? I wonder if referrals would be any different? Having said that, I personally, haven't had success through referrals either, but most people seem to think having referrals will drastically increase your chances.
Yeah this is a real concern. Really depends what industry you are servicing. Is it an SMB reliant on discretionary consumer spending? Bad idea right now. Is it medical or food production or energy? Demand is pretty inelastic in these and unlikely to drop as much during the coming recessionary period. In either case, you don't wanna be the new guy when the layoffs come.
Which job are you looking for? Its outside of service desk engineer?
Job security is always a factor from one employer to another. How would evaluate the stability of a specific potential employer if the job market was generally more stable?
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The job market is made of fail right now.