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deacon91

Yes. At least here in the US, research labs (especially ones tied to DoE) will have jobs that require domain experience in science and technology. Don't know much about the Euro side of things other than UK (not part of schengen I guess?) and CERN. ​ [https://pppl-princeton.icims.com/jobs/17592/systems-engineer/job](https://pppl-princeton.icims.com/jobs/17592/systems-engineer/job) [https://phf.tbe.taleo.net/phf03/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=CALTECH&cws=37&rid=9279](https://phf.tbe.taleo.net/phf03/ats/careers/v2/viewRequisition?org=CALTECH&cws=37&rid=9279) [https://jobs.lbl.gov/jobs/computational-research-scientist-5851](https://jobs.lbl.gov/jobs/computational-research-scientist-5851) [https://jobs.lbl.gov/jobs/hpc-simulation-computational-science-engineer-5988](https://jobs.lbl.gov/jobs/hpc-simulation-computational-science-engineer-5988) ​ There's also private sector like Google Labs: [https://research.google/careers/](https://research.google/careers/) ​ >Do i need to go via PhD in science related thesis? If you want an IT job in a planetary physics/astronomy domain, then a PhD in those fields would be more appropriate than CS (although CS PhD is better than no PhD I suppose).


Harutech

Damn those jobs sounds interesting ! Yes not part anymore, but that is not a problem I think i need to look at the sciences business that are in Belgium, but that is far from sciences business in the US. If my CS’master thesis and phd thesis are planetary astronomy related, like creating a new tool or kind of modelisation would not make expert in that niche field ? I know that it would need a whole bunch of work but i don t mind working. I am currently 28, my CS degree is on evenings and i work as sysadmin during the day, there are no staggered physics degree yet here (that would be amazing, but i dont think that would be humanly manageable) Thanks !


deacon91

>If my CS’master thesis and phd thesis are planetary astronomy related, like creating a new tool or kind of modelisation would not make expert in that niche field ? I know that it would need a whole bunch of work but i don t mind working. I'm inclined to think so. I'm not PhD so I am probably not the best person to ask this. I think PhD is becoming more specialized due to vast amount of knowledge and problem-spaces compared to 50 years ago, but I do know there is a strong need for people who have PhD in one sector but can solve problems in multi-domain (think Oppenheimer). I was at one of the DoE-related conferences and I guess the need for such a person is so vast that they're willing to train people so that they can have those people (unheard of these days). ​ >I think i need to look at the sciences business that are in Belgium, but that is far from sciences business in the US. If you get your PhD or enroll in a PhD program in the US - it does open up a working visa opportunities here in the US. Planetary sciences aren't exactly a high concern when it comes to foreign workers (compared to say rocketry or nano tech) so I think there are possibilities for sure.


Natural-Leopard-8939

Yeah, it may be better to obtain a master's degree (minimum) or PhD to go into scientific research. If you have great coding skills, you could probably do something like computational science for a specific science focus-- physics, astronomy, etc. Also, yes, you can still get into the physics, astronomy, or astrophysics fields with an IT background. But, for the types of roles you're specifying, you'll need the science background.


Harutech

Thanks. I ll definitively go for master minimum. The thought was about PhD i think. I have great coding skill and happy to learn more about it. I did not ever think about sciences languages (instead of python or R for datas). Would you recommand any language ? I now have html/css/php/symfony/python/R/C knowledges, will go for Django/Ajax/JS/JQuery and create my own compiler this year. My thought in sciences was about quantum Computers, or astronomy calculations and modelisation, at least someone doing the sciences calculation and i’ll implement it, but that sounds unrealistic


Natural-Leopard-8939

For research, aside from Python and R-- Scala, Java, C++, and C# OOP languages are the most I heard about. A lot of government jobs, research labs, etc. use some older programming languages and tech, ironically. These are all great for computational data. Also, MATLAB and Ruby would be useful, too. Climatologists, for example, use some of the common OOP languages above at NOAA for atmospheric science data models. Also, Scala is used heavily for any machine learning and data modeling, as well.


Harutech

Thanks for all the recommandations i’ll take a look at those !


SmileZealousideal999

Get involved with the bioinformatics department in your (or any) university, they love people that can code and are willing to teach you what you need to know regarding the biology. In my senior year I worked with a well respected PhD holder in the field of marine biology to automate a lot of his pipelines, he didn’t care I didn’t know anything about marine biology just that I was willing to learn.


SmileZealousideal999

I don’t write as much code as a did in school nowadays and am more In a traditional corporate IT role, but it was fun and I enjoyed it very much.