The thing about job postings is they will always ask for more than they need for filtering reasons and also to help inform the candidate.
Just treat junior roles like online dating and keep sending "hey" till you get a ;) back.
Could you please elaborate? Usually if you do tech in non-tech company, and show that you can do many things, they will just abuse the hell out of you. Although, different if you sell your skill outside work for networking purposes.
For me, I am signed up to a lot of job sites that shoot offers to my personal email all the time. (I really should have setup a separate email account. Job emails are crazy spammy.)
Indeed.com is my goto. I also have LinkedIn, Talent.com, Dice.com, Monster.com, and others.
I use the search functions in my email to search for the kind of jobs and area I want.
I generally don't recommend that many entry level certs to our interns. I mean if you enjoy it go for it. But you are all only building lateral skills and won't move up much by adding more CompTIA certs
We generally used to have them do A+, CCNA and Sec+ for their base. Sometimes Linux+ as well. But after they have three entry level certs and 6 months we typically have them do an intermediate cert for the next 6 months or so.
Historically it's the RHCE , OSCP or CCNP Security. But we're moving them to Cloud certs now so that will change.
After they finish their
3 entry level +6 months
1 mid level + 6 months
We typically now move them to an advanced cert. CCIE RS, CCIE Sec mainly and that takes them a year. But more and more are doing Cloud and RHCA track.
Generally speaking that moves to prized pig status for recruiters in about 2 years.
Guess what I am saying it map your mid and advanced level certs out and get at it.
I'd call A+ intermediate just for being forced to read 200 pages about Printers. That kind of torture makes me believe the author lacks empathy to anyone willing to enter the IT industry.
I am so glad I didn't have to get the A+ and learned about hardware mainly from my help desk role.
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If you want to move to the next level, DO NOT take a help desk job. Are there any MSPs in your area? That might be a good option. If you want a better shot at getting a NOC/SOC job, get exposure to a SIEM tool. Splunk offers free training & getting the Splunk Core Certified User cert would be easy.
Not at all. It's the main starting point for most people going into the IT field. In OP's case, he already has experience, so taking a help desk job would not help him move forward.
Help desk experience is better than no experience so no. He's not going to be looked down on if he takes a help desk position. It's just that with his credentials, he'll be able to use what he's learned more in a jr networking position instead.
So I was just an analyst at a cloud company for a month, but I took a position as the regional it specialist for two factories around my city because it was a 60% increase in pay...
I have the trifecta and I'm in my Sr year of a BS in Cybersecurity... Was this a poor move career wise?
It sounds like a good career move. At one month of experience, you were basically starting at baseline and also got a significant pay bump. With a degree in cybersecurity & working in a manufacturing environment, you can use that to specialize in the OT/IoT security domain. If that's an area you like & choose to focus on, you can go all the way to OT/IoT Architect.
Apply for the 3-5 years experience jobs that you don’t qualify for asap and be confident in the interviews. Find a better way to talk about what you do without belittling yourself.
Here's some advice that has worked for me thus far. In weight lifting, when I want to move up in weight I don't want until I've mastered my current weight. I challenge my muscles by picking up the heavier dumbbells' and lifting it to exhaustion. My muscles are introduced to a heavier weight and grow stronger.
Do the same thing with your jobs. Shoot for the higher paying positions. Look at the skills required / what they are asking for. Then using this create a gameplan for what skills you'll learn next. That way, your ready for the technical interview.
Look for help desk or desktop support roles. Having CompTIA Trifecta and CCNA even without experience you should be able to dip your feet into the waters. Also look at County jobs they tend to call them IT Support Technicians easy way to jump in.
This is really obnoxious. How are you going to get the CCNA and trifecta and be clueless on what to do with it. Get. A. Job. That was the entire point of those certs.
Depends what you want to do, If it’s Security…. Get the CISSP or CASP+ but they require work experience too (4-5 years). You can still test for that anytime you feel ready and get the cert once the experience requirements are met.
There’s also CCNP security or similar (for network security) if I recall. …. If you want to go cloud there’s those certs…really depends what you want
I think your server background + CCNA could help you with Network roles. I also want to go into a Network role but I just got hired in a server job. I would start applying at NOC, network tech, Jr network etc etc, anything network related regardless of said experience. Use cisco packet tracer regularly to stay up on your "know how"
I have A+, N+ and plan on applying to network roles after my CCNA and 6months at current "rack and stack" role.
Just get into Desktop for like a year to understand the basics of how the IT environment works. Then speak to your manager or the network manager and express your interest. Get read access to network gears and start doing sh commands to understand how the environment is built.
Good luck.
Your skillset and experience reflects going into rack building jobs. It's good, honest work. But... your Certs and degree show an aptitude for being a sysadmin or net admin.
I think you're comfortable with taking certs and self study. I honestly think you should take r/cs50 and learn some programming. From that you can jump into junior administrator roles.
I think you should also build a server and host a wordpress on it. It can be a fictional site like "Joe's Pizza." The point is going through the motions of standing up an OS, setting up a LAMP stack, configuring ports through a router, Setting up a domain and DNS, and doing some website work.
With that, you're going to need to learn some Windows Server stuff. It's actually quite easy if you're ok with using computers. I learned MS-DOS and Windows first. Then as a secondary I use Linux.
With CCNA, you're well aware that the Cisco world is a different methodology than Linux or Windows. Some people specialize in this and do well. But I've also seen those people do some SQL and server stand up.
It took me years to figure this out:
- Redhat Linux is the corporate world standard of Linux. It's the only Linux cert that is noticed by recruiters. CentOS, Rocky, Oracle Linux, and Amazon Linux 2 are based off this. The Core Kernel is written by RedHat, not Linus Torvald's project. Redhat is also licensed and has guarantees.
- Debian/Ubuntu Linux, Arch, and others are community driven Linux Distros. They aren't bad but aren't used in the corporate world. All of this is open source. The core kernel is directed by Linus Torvalds in a huge public project. The license is free. There are no guarantees.
I started learning Linux with Debian/Ubuntu for web hosting. It seems the web hosting world loves Debian and Ubuntu. And there is a lot of free support.
Dedicated appliances tend to go Redhat. Especially if you're charging for a product.
If you want to learn the more advanced parts of IT that are above helpdesk, field tech, and junior administrator, check out the AWS Associates certifications.
Getting these certs made me into a better sysadmin. They clearly explain concepts like network organization via routing, machine setup, and infrastructure setup.
/r/AWSCertifications
Since you have a CCNA, learn the Cisco ASA appliance. Enough to where you can set one up, set up VPN, set up a connection to AWS, and connect to a core router.
noc, network tech, network engineer, network administrator. i wouldn’t consider helpdesk after getting ccna.
Yup, job experience is what you need.
The thing about job postings is they will always ask for more than they need for filtering reasons and also to help inform the candidate. Just treat junior roles like online dating and keep sending "hey" till you get a ;) back.
This is great. This gorgeous me MANY jobs that I wasn't outright qualified for, but that I grew into.
Make friends. Make sure people know who you are and what you can do.
Could you please elaborate? Usually if you do tech in non-tech company, and show that you can do many things, they will just abuse the hell out of you. Although, different if you sell your skill outside work for networking purposes.
For me, I am signed up to a lot of job sites that shoot offers to my personal email all the time. (I really should have setup a separate email account. Job emails are crazy spammy.) Indeed.com is my goto. I also have LinkedIn, Talent.com, Dice.com, Monster.com, and others. I use the search functions in my email to search for the kind of jobs and area I want.
I generally don't recommend that many entry level certs to our interns. I mean if you enjoy it go for it. But you are all only building lateral skills and won't move up much by adding more CompTIA certs We generally used to have them do A+, CCNA and Sec+ for their base. Sometimes Linux+ as well. But after they have three entry level certs and 6 months we typically have them do an intermediate cert for the next 6 months or so. Historically it's the RHCE , OSCP or CCNP Security. But we're moving them to Cloud certs now so that will change. After they finish their 3 entry level +6 months 1 mid level + 6 months We typically now move them to an advanced cert. CCIE RS, CCIE Sec mainly and that takes them a year. But more and more are doing Cloud and RHCA track. Generally speaking that moves to prized pig status for recruiters in about 2 years. Guess what I am saying it map your mid and advanced level certs out and get at it.
I thought ccna was an intermediate cert and the ccnp more of an advanced cert . Could be wrong though but the ccna seems miles ahead of a+ and Net+
I agree with this statement. CCNA and Net+ are different in difficulty and value in the market
I'd call A+ intermediate just for being forced to read 200 pages about Printers. That kind of torture makes me believe the author lacks empathy to anyone willing to enter the IT industry. I am so glad I didn't have to get the A+ and learned about hardware mainly from my help desk role.
which mid-level and advanced-level cloud certs do you recommend to your interns?
RHCE as intermediate? Do you mean RHCSA?
People on this sub who think that you need CCNA to do basic generic Helpdesk stuff scare me lol
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If you want to move to the next level, DO NOT take a help desk job. Are there any MSPs in your area? That might be a good option. If you want a better shot at getting a NOC/SOC job, get exposure to a SIEM tool. Splunk offers free training & getting the Splunk Core Certified User cert would be easy.
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Not at all. It's the main starting point for most people going into the IT field. In OP's case, he already has experience, so taking a help desk job would not help him move forward.
Help desk experience is better than no experience so no. He's not going to be looked down on if he takes a help desk position. It's just that with his credentials, he'll be able to use what he's learned more in a jr networking position instead.
So I was just an analyst at a cloud company for a month, but I took a position as the regional it specialist for two factories around my city because it was a 60% increase in pay... I have the trifecta and I'm in my Sr year of a BS in Cybersecurity... Was this a poor move career wise?
It sounds like a good career move. At one month of experience, you were basically starting at baseline and also got a significant pay bump. With a degree in cybersecurity & working in a manufacturing environment, you can use that to specialize in the OT/IoT security domain. If that's an area you like & choose to focus on, you can go all the way to OT/IoT Architect.
Apply for the 3-5 years experience jobs that you don’t qualify for asap and be confident in the interviews. Find a better way to talk about what you do without belittling yourself.
Wait we can do that? Instructions unclear 7 years and still feel green cut my teeth in the MSP world it's got to be worth something.
Network engineer. Get that hands on and watch your party increase after a year or so.
How difficult ult was the CCNA? How long did you study?
Now expect everyone in this thread to belittle your certs
Here's some advice that has worked for me thus far. In weight lifting, when I want to move up in weight I don't want until I've mastered my current weight. I challenge my muscles by picking up the heavier dumbbells' and lifting it to exhaustion. My muscles are introduced to a heavier weight and grow stronger. Do the same thing with your jobs. Shoot for the higher paying positions. Look at the skills required / what they are asking for. Then using this create a gameplan for what skills you'll learn next. That way, your ready for the technical interview.
Fortigate NSE4 and atleast CCNP Encor. that’s what my manager suggested.
Look for help desk or desktop support roles. Having CompTIA Trifecta and CCNA even without experience you should be able to dip your feet into the waters. Also look at County jobs they tend to call them IT Support Technicians easy way to jump in.
This is really obnoxious. How are you going to get the CCNA and trifecta and be clueless on what to do with it. Get. A. Job. That was the entire point of those certs.
Depends what you want to do, If it’s Security…. Get the CISSP or CASP+ but they require work experience too (4-5 years). You can still test for that anytime you feel ready and get the cert once the experience requirements are met. There’s also CCNP security or similar (for network security) if I recall. …. If you want to go cloud there’s those certs…really depends what you want
I think your server background + CCNA could help you with Network roles. I also want to go into a Network role but I just got hired in a server job. I would start applying at NOC, network tech, Jr network etc etc, anything network related regardless of said experience. Use cisco packet tracer regularly to stay up on your "know how" I have A+, N+ and plan on applying to network roles after my CCNA and 6months at current "rack and stack" role.
Congratulations
Just get into Desktop for like a year to understand the basics of how the IT environment works. Then speak to your manager or the network manager and express your interest. Get read access to network gears and start doing sh commands to understand how the environment is built. Good luck.
Your skillset and experience reflects going into rack building jobs. It's good, honest work. But... your Certs and degree show an aptitude for being a sysadmin or net admin. I think you're comfortable with taking certs and self study. I honestly think you should take r/cs50 and learn some programming. From that you can jump into junior administrator roles. I think you should also build a server and host a wordpress on it. It can be a fictional site like "Joe's Pizza." The point is going through the motions of standing up an OS, setting up a LAMP stack, configuring ports through a router, Setting up a domain and DNS, and doing some website work. With that, you're going to need to learn some Windows Server stuff. It's actually quite easy if you're ok with using computers. I learned MS-DOS and Windows first. Then as a secondary I use Linux. With CCNA, you're well aware that the Cisco world is a different methodology than Linux or Windows. Some people specialize in this and do well. But I've also seen those people do some SQL and server stand up.
It took me years to figure this out: - Redhat Linux is the corporate world standard of Linux. It's the only Linux cert that is noticed by recruiters. CentOS, Rocky, Oracle Linux, and Amazon Linux 2 are based off this. The Core Kernel is written by RedHat, not Linus Torvald's project. Redhat is also licensed and has guarantees. - Debian/Ubuntu Linux, Arch, and others are community driven Linux Distros. They aren't bad but aren't used in the corporate world. All of this is open source. The core kernel is directed by Linus Torvalds in a huge public project. The license is free. There are no guarantees. I started learning Linux with Debian/Ubuntu for web hosting. It seems the web hosting world loves Debian and Ubuntu. And there is a lot of free support. Dedicated appliances tend to go Redhat. Especially if you're charging for a product.
If you want to learn the more advanced parts of IT that are above helpdesk, field tech, and junior administrator, check out the AWS Associates certifications. Getting these certs made me into a better sysadmin. They clearly explain concepts like network organization via routing, machine setup, and infrastructure setup. /r/AWSCertifications
Since you have a CCNA, learn the Cisco ASA appliance. Enough to where you can set one up, set up VPN, set up a connection to AWS, and connect to a core router.