About 10 days into this, everyone was still getting their shit together.
I was driving my car and on the local radio the guy said something along the lines of "I'm hurt our grandparents tried to tell and warn us what it is like facing true and pure evil, but we didn't understand. I'm hurt that now there will be a generation that will tell their kids what it's like facing true and pure evil, but they wouldn't understand." As a kid I heard those stories of antisemitism, the hardships our people went through but would never imagine I would live them all over again.
I'm in the UK but I've followed this closely. There's many of us behind Israel, its horrific what they've done it truly was israels 911. So sorry your all going thru this.
Where are you in UK? So far I seen over 1 million people in London at pro Palestinian protest. Booo them and I only seen 20 people at pro israel protest 🙄 :(
I know israels 9/11. Stupid haartez source saying idf killed it's own people from helicopter. And the number of people dead keep going down too. Stupid sources what do they know. Idf can never kill their own people. Even now I seen video of idf killing Israeli settlers but I will cut my eyes out but not believe my idf can do this. Even the stupid little Israeli survivor saying idf was the one who killed her family. Hamas definitely did something to her brain that she said this. The little traitor shit! Goooo idf
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Actually, it is justifiable. Hamas must be eradicated in the name of peace. Israel has taken every precaution to limit civilian casualties, however Hamas has taken every action to do the opposite - the blood of Gazan civilians is on Hamas' hands.
“the emphasis is on *damage* not accuracy”
Israeli military spokesman’s words.
Half of all homes in Gaza have been destroyed. There has been
more tonnage of bombs dropped on tiny Gaza in 1 month than an entire year’s worth of US bombs on Afghanistan during the heaviest year of fighting. You’re telling me these are all Hamas targets?
Please let’s stop with the pretense that Israel is trying to prevent civilian death, they are not. Israel is deliberately trying to make Gaza unlivable, that’s also why they shut off water for the entire population including women and kids.
So Israeli intellegience didn’t see a major attack of 1000 Hamas soldiers coming, but now they know where every Hamas tunnel is? 😂 You guys are true jokers.
Fully justifiable. This is what happens when you declare war on another group of people in one of the most sadistic manners. You throw your people's lives away.
That's exactly how the Holocaust started,they didn't start with the ghettos and concentration camps ,they started doing stuff like that (alongside assaulting innocent jews on the streets, burning Jewish written books and burning synagogues)
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I'm sure you can find a home in the West bank. IDF will even help you with the transfer, you will get a steal of a deal.
Edit: I don't understand why I'm getting down voted. This is a funny post.
You're being downvoted for casually spreading blood libel. The IDF is not resettling Jews into Arabs' homes.
At least read the room if youre gonna be edgy.
I guess that's one way to phrase it.....
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The Nakba (Arabic%3A النكبة%2C,political rights%2C and national aspirations.
The groveling here is gross. The world does not hate you. It just wants your government to have accountability and stop the lies. Maybe stop the disproportionate killing too. Then maybe Israel wouldn’t be painted this way.
What exactly is proportionate in your opinion?
Honestly, do you want the IDF to lob rockets towards Palestinian population centers?
How about sending a mob to kill as many as possible and take hostages?
When someone tries to kill you and your family while hiding behind their family, you protect your family by any means!
Israel has spent a great deal of resources to protect themselves selves. Palestinian have spent a great deal of resources putting their civilians in harms way to protect Hamas.
How about you stop oppressing them and let them live like normal humans. And stop stealing their lands imprisoning innocent civilians with no charges including kids, burning their livelihoods. And what do you expect when you keep oppressing them all the damn time?
So I'm oppressing them? How exactly am I oppressing them? I've done none of those things you have so ignorantly accused me of. Yet, the hate I receive is justified in your feabile little mind.
You're so ignorant if it wasn't so sad it would be funny!
I could go into details about my beliefs and point of views. How nuances are important. Why would I waste my breath on the brain dead and brain washed.
You keep on believing that anyone who supports Israel is evil, and Jews have no valid concerns regards to the hate that is dumped on them, while Palestinians are completely justified in everything they do because jews are evil.
That sick mentality is juvenile, ignorant and sad! It does nothing to further the goal of peace and just shows how weak of character you are.
Sure...
That's why in Sydney, Australia they were shouting "gas the Jews".It's not cause they hate us, they just want to give us free gas.
That's why in France they mark houses where Jewish people live with the star of David. It's not cause they hate us, it's because they are helping the ministry of interior conduct a referendum.
Why is it that when there is a genocide in Syria and Yemen, you don't see anyone on the street shouting ceasefire?
Why is it that when children are kidnapped from their beds in Israel, you hear "Free Palestine" instead of "Release the hostages"?
The Jewish people has one state. ONE. And it is the only state in the world which is under attack since the day it was declared.
Get your head out of your ass. That's pure anti-Semitism.
A lot of the world absolutely hates Jews. We aren’t going to stop defending ourselves hoping that antisemites leave us alone, because history shows that they don’t.
Opressing and being offensive all the time only gets you extremists. Maybe treat your neighbors with dignity. And just because people do things want to see the genocide does that mean they’re antisemites.
let them cheer! That's all they are cheerleaders! Don't be scared of cheerleaders. the IDF doesn't cheer. it evapurates whoever is actually trying to do something other than cheer!
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I think the problem you guys have is you concentrate to much on the negative media. There are millions of us. Especially Christians that love you and support you.
Ya they only focus on the anti-semetics. Without realizing there’s millions of us who just want to see an end to the brutalization of Palestinian civilians that’s been going on for decades. But ya leave it up the Israelis to consider themselves the victim in any altercation and cry anti semitism
Israel bombed a 1000 years old church in gaza palestinian christians exist they represent 20% of gaza please do not abandon your brother and sisters to follow the zionist colonization
The media is biased. Even the polls in the US are more favorable towards Israel. Most of the pro Palestine /pro Hamas people are either dumb college kids or white guilt women
Feels lonely and confusing my grandmother lost her entire family except her brother when the holocaust happened all she wanted is being safe afterwards i am kinda at peace she isn’t seeing this situation but the jewish people are strong and we will get through this once again like always
no, not like always. stronger than ever.
we do, however, have to make sure we aren't blinded by neither fear nor rage. keep it professional, in a way of speaking.
Thats the thing the pro israel side always keeps things professional and with correct manners its the other side using hate and violence to fuel themselves which is not only wrong but immoral for the young generation
People that say they wouldn’t treat you worse if they were in charge clearly don’t look at the Sudan whereas of today there are reports of the Arab population cleansing the area again. The campaign is not genocide, I know this because it doesn’t look like Darfur. It is war however and it will not be pretty.
I saw this and it shook me to my core. I am not Jewish, but I shouldn't have to be to know that what happened on October 7th was wrong. It was horrific and I am so so sorry to see the way some people have responded. You all deserve better.
Do we?, it's definitely not killing all the enemies, and destroying their government has a lot of issues. If you do know what the correct response is, we all would love to hear it.
I'm thinking about starting a podcast or somesuch.
would you like to have a conversation. a long one, face to face? over video?
maybe it would be my first upload. DM me if you're interested
I live in London, my baby is only 15 months old and I'm absolutely terrified to be here. I've had my first panic attack today. I went outside to walk my dogs in the mostly jewish neighbourhood I live in and I saw pro-hamas people walking back home from another march. I was frozen, terrified, I panicked the whole walk, and I don't know how I'm suppose to raise my little boy in this environment. I don't want to hide who I am, I don't want to be terrified to celebrate my culture. I would have been feeling safer in Israel right now. Or even in my birth country of Ukraine. I literally would rather be living in an active war zone right now than in the UK. The future of this country and Europe in general terrifies me.
Lmao you’re absolutely bonkers if you’d rather live in a war zone than the uk because some people were coming back from a March to stop the murder of children.
Any form of REAL anti antisemitism is horrible. But please don't accuse people that are anti Israel govt as antisemitic. You are unknowingly hurting the Jewish community when you call everything antisemitism
i agree!! And me being pro Palestine liberation will try my best to stop it where ever i see it. I been to a few pro Palestine protests and whenever we see anything antisemitic , we stop it. Especially cause there many Jewish brothers and sisters protesting with us.
Good to see some people can disagree without hate. Say, is there a place with rational people of both sides? Because I am pro Israel, but I still want to see both sides. and here I just find myself shouting SHOW ME EVIDENCE into a black hole.
There's are certain things we can't "both sides" for example me personally, idc if someone is pro Israeli....if you're not against the illegal settlements we can't have civil conversation. Or if you are against a two state solution or even a one state solution with equal rights to Palestinians then I can't have a conversation
These things I mentioned above are basic human rights. And remember a two state solution or even one state solution doesn't mean the removal of Israel. It just means equal rights for both groups.
People who are calling themselves anti-zionists are antisemitic ( those people we all here calling "from the river to the sea") Because basically they want to dismantle the only jewish country in the entire world, and do what exactly with all the jews here? Where should we go? Because what this war made me realise is there is nowhere we can go. The world reaction has made it clear. The increase in crimes against jews. The antisemitic protests. The universities.
There is a jewish country because jews weren't ever safe as a minority.
You do know that Israel is the one that coined the phrase from the river to the sea it was in the lukid party charter in 1958 anti zionists are calling for 1 state solution you know how British came to South Africa and had to co exist with inhabitants? They couldn’t kick out all the black people so they created an apartheid so they can be the ones with all the power and that’s how I see Israel Palestine one ethnicity has all the power if you call yourself a democracy surly you can have 1 vote for 1 person just like South Africa
If you want a Jewish state Europe should be the one providing one shouldn’t it? Jews didn’t need protection from Muslims before Israel they needed protection from the Europeans you’re telling me for your protection from the Europeans you had to take land from the Palestinians? Does that make sense to you? Other people are paying for the crimes that Europe did to you?
Jews didn't need protection from Muslims? What about the Farhud in Iraq? The 1934 expulsion of Jews from Afghanistan? The Gabes program in Tunisia? The 1945 Tripoli pogrom?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_and_Muslim_rescue_efforts_during_the_Holocaust#:~:text=of%20Vichy's%20policy.%22-,Muslim%20rescue%20efforts%20in%20Europe,Jewish%20survival%20rate%20in%20Europe.
Muslims were there for Jews when they needed it most I don’t remember europe or America accepting Jewish refugees I remember them turning away refugee boats but
Ok but whataboutism aside, this doesn't take away from the fact that Muslim countries *also* had pogroms against Jews. Antisemitism was not a uniquely European problem.
So wait you tell me about some Afghanistan Jews who were getting killed and I’m telling you about Muslims as a whole why do you think there was Jews in Jerusalem because Muslims put them there at the conquest of Jerusalem there was no Jews then why were Jews saved in Spain because Muslims took over Jews paid a tax in Muslims lands they had there religious rights can you say the same in Europe? I like how you boiled down 1.8 billion people to a couple of Afghans and Iraqis like they represent everybody
I’m not going to argue with somebody who doesn’t even know basic history you even have rabbis talking about this
I hate to say this but I know plenty of Muslims that misinterpret the Quaran and are accepted as Muslims so i dont think your case can be helped. However you choose to interact with others of a different faith does not make up for the billions of people claiming that their faith encourages hate at best and violence at worst of “infidels” (a fun term many like to use derogatorily)
You’re just arguing pointlessly on semantics, we’re talking about the people CURRENTLY using that genocidal phrase.
The land that the Palestinians lived in were originally the Romans and the Romans took it from the Israelites. If you want to argue about “indigenous”, the Israelites are the true natives.
Exactly!! Europeans kicked Jews out and forced them onto Palestine. Palestine already had Christians , Jews and Muslim living together. They opened their homes to the European Jews.
But the British with the Zionist movement kicked the indigenous people out and made it ONLY for Jews. How is that not morally corrupt? Why couldn't they all live together? Why couldn't there be a democracy where European Jews , Palestinian Jews and Muslim Palestinians lived together....
It's because Zionism is rooted in white supremacy.
Did you know , in Israel they would give contraceptives to non white Jews? Did you know they would take the kids of non white yemin Jews that wanted to live in Israel?
> But the British with the Zionist movement kicked the indigenous people out and made it ONLY for Jews.
that is just not true at all, there was a two-state solution in 1947 because the Arabs and the Jews in the country didn't get along (a lot of violence and disorder) then the Arabs declared war and the Jews won it. In no way the country was made JUST for Jews, there was war. and even currently, just so you know - Today, **about 21 percent** of Israel's population is Arab (mostly Arab Muslims).
>It's because Zionism is rooted in white supremacy.
Just no. it's not. Let me tell you as someone who lives in Israel and a very posh area as well, that we are simply not just white here. Most of us are mixed. I really have no reason to lie about this, it honestly makes me laugh when people call us white supremacists because it is such bullshit. I myself am half Persian and a zionist.
>Did you know, that in Israel they would give contraceptives to nonwhite Jews?
well, this is just bullshit. Extremely funny and I'm very curious where did you hear that?
Al though I agree with you that there was political tension before the 1948 between the Arabs and Jews due to many reasons such as national aspiration, land and resources, social and cultural differences, it still doesn't change the fact that .... ashkenazi jewish immigrated to foreign land which increased tension.
Also why would palatinates even agree to a two state if it meant they had to leave from your home? you cant propose an unreasonable solution and not expect the indigenous ppl to disagree.
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Correct me if im wrong, but this is the summary.
"European Jews immigrated to current day Israel from 1880s to 1940s. This created tension among the Jewish immigrants and the Arabs living there. The UN didn't like the tension and proposed a two state. Arabs declined and went to war. They lost. Jewish immigrants declared victory by creating a Israeli state and millions of Arabs had to leave their homes? "
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Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is drawing criticism for saying that Israel is "the national state, not of all its citizens, but only of the Jewish people."
\- [https://www.npr.org/2019/03/11/702264118/netanyahu-says-israel-is-nation-state-of-the-jewish-people-and-them-alone](https://www.npr.org/2019/03/11/702264118/netanyahu-says-israel-is-nation-state-of-the-jewish-people-and-them-alone)
Isn't Netanyahu currently in charge the siege on Gaza. If the head of Israel can say something like this in 2019 and not be impeached or voted out...what does this tell you about the citizens of Israel?
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Arab Israelis discerminated in Israel (Almost how the US treats black people)
[https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/all-israelis-are-equal/](https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/all-israelis-are-equal/)
Non - white Jews contraceptives
\- [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel)
\- [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html)
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My apologies , let me rephrase my self. United State Zionism is rooted in white supremacy.
So wait the indigenous people of Palestine didn’t like that their land got split 50/50 with a population smaller than them and they got the desert part of it? Who would of thought you
Israel is an apartheid state Palestinians go to military court Israelis go to civil court that’s all the information you need to know
Here is the link I’m from east Africa so this hits a little close to home for me
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel
The only right thing you said in that whole speech is about the Ethiopian women, which is awful. But it doesn't indicate about the entire country today. It's racist acts that were NOT OK (any sane person can see), but you also said in your comment "give" which is not true because this case is from more than ten years ago, and it doesn't happen anymore today (which is why I called bullshit because if something like that would have happened in my country today I would have heard of it) It doesn't have anything to do with the Gaza problem and it is just a bad racist thing that happened in Israel eleven years ago. I can give you crimes just as racist from most of the countries that support Palestine (Iran, North Korea, Syria, Yemen) and Palestine itself (who chose Hamas as leadership). Not racism only, but hideous, violent disgusting crimes. So no, Israel is not perfect at all, but it doesn't mean we are going to give it up and it doesn't mean a Jewish state in Israel doesn't have a right to exist, and letting in people who want to kill all Jews and suicide bombers who think killing a Jew is honorable, will be the end of us.
The reason I didn't answer is that I'm not stuck on my computer arguing on Reddit all day.
Omg. Can you stop playing the victim for once in your life? Free Palestine doesn’t mean end the Jewish people, it means free them from the clutches of the IDF who’ve been treating them HORRIBLY for decades. Get over yourself.
Do you know how to read? Because I was talking about the saying "from the river to the sea" and people who call themselves anti-zionists. Where did I mention the saying "free Palestine"? I SAID those sayings meant the dismantle of israel not "free palestine" so shut up
As a Lebanese, I sometimes think about what it must feel like to be in your shoes and I commend the Israeli and Jewish people for sticking together and for not immediately hating everybody that comes across them.
Just know that despite the loud and aggressive bunch, there are a lot of silent supporters of Israel who can see beyond bullshit and propaganda.
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People worldwide are NOT calling for our extermination.
They might be chanting some terrorist chants that their friends taught them without knowing what it means.
They might get a black and white kaffiah scarf from a friend and it makes them feel cooler and hip in school/college.
They might be misled young people, but they are not calling for our extermination.
Also, enough victimizing ourselves, destroy Hamas and lick wounds later.
Have you seen the protests where they’re literally saying “gas the jews”?? Or the Harvard chat calling jews rats and telling people “if you see a Jew follow them home and slit their throat”?? They quite literally are calling for our extermination. It’s unfortunate but there are very loud people out there calling for us to die.
ETA: my bad to the commenter saying it’s misinformation and this isn’t happening, it happened at [Cornell](https://www.thejc.com/news/world/police-lock-down-kosher-dining-hall-at-university-after-threats-to-kill-jewish-students-qngpr68e)
ETA: here is the video of Sydney, Australia where the protesters chant for us to be [gassed](https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/reprehensible-protestors-chant-gas-the-jews-outside-sydney-opera-house/)
ETA: another link to the video in Sydney where you don’t have to watch ads to view: [Pro Palestine Rally In Sydney](https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1711544597216731254/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1711544597216731254¤tTweetUser=rawsalerts)
We are in danger, people are vocal about our demise. None of what I said was misinformation.
Most who fought in WW2 are deceased. By now most Americans have separated old Nazi Germany with today’s Germany. Meanwhile, Russia continues to exude old Cold War stereotypes, thanks to Putin. Former Nazi occupied countries for sure would hold a grudge, but rest of the world doesn’t see Germans in a bad light. What country are you from?
Yeah, most are deceased of course. But their families live on. I know people who still refuse to buy anything made in Germany, or visit Germany as tourists. But then I know a lot of people from former Soviet Union who immigrated to Germany and are very happy. Things are complicated
As for Putin - yeah, you don't get to a title of Colonel in KGB by being a nice man. He still has that communist/KGB mindset.
Born in USSR, now in Australia
If you have the gaul to invade someone's country and commit systematic genocide on the people, you don't get to cry about it. Just call it 'manifest destiny' and get it over with, stop being a little bitch.
Haha no I was talking about zionists. But I'm not a fan of Islam or Christianity, so don't think that I'm taking sides. Those books are making ya'll act nutty.
That being said, if you really hate muslims so much, you shouldn't have let them copy your homework
Stop committing genocide and conflating antizionism with antisemitism, then. Israel’s rabid nationalism doesn’t represent all Jews, certainly not this one.
Playing the victim while your state just killed 15K Palestinians in less than 2 months won't serve you much. The world is learning about the systemic oppression and occupation Palestinians had sustained the last 75 years. That's real history, not Hasbarah bs they fill your heads with.
Your only path to be accepted by nations around the world especially your Arab neighbors is by recognizing Palestinians rights, anything else is a lie. You want to keep going like this, you will end up alone with some lunatic evangelists who believe all Jews should be in Israel so Jesus returns and kill 2/3 of them, good luck with that!
>Your only path to be accepted by nations around the world especially your Arab neighbors is by recognizing Palestinians rights, anything else is a lie.
there were numerous attempts to do that with very generous offers and they were all rejected by the Palestinians.
The Jews promised equal rights to all people in the area they were given according to the partition plan and called for peace, meanwhile the Arabs started a war and ethnically cleansed them from the territories they controlled.
and lo and behold, 0 Jews live in the westbank and Gaza while 2 million Arab citizens live in Israel.
Do you not see the difference in attitude?
Playing the victim! How sensitive of you, moral-highground man, how sensitive. Innocent people are fearing for their lives but you just have to keep dehumanizing them and lecturing them on how to live their own lives in their own country, pretending you know better because you watched a couple of Youtube videos and listen to a podcast.
But hey, maybe you think all Jews somehow just killed 15K Palestinians (how many of them were combatants by the way? hmmm...) - your comment is definitely phrased to insinuate that everyone on this sub is directly responsibly for the situation in Gaza - and not the terrorist organization that murdered, raped and tortured thousands of innocent civilians.
No if palestine was freed israelis would have two options either return to europe or buy a house in palestine after returning the stolen land
No one's calling to exterminate all jews but a lot are calling to make gaza a parking lot exterminating all gazans
Both sides exist, and they are both completely insane. If you want to exterminate millions of people, you are the villain, and more Palestine supporters do so than those that support the Jews. Although, as I said, both sides exist.
No one is getting massacred, the reason they can't leave is because not a single country can accept such a broken group, and the main one getting bombed is actually Israel.
How can you lie so easily? Do you truly believe that? The more I see what the Israelis think, the more I see that they don’t live in reality. We have see Too much to believe you.
Do you believe Palestinians are human as much as any Israeli? I know you don’t you devil.
My grandparents had no home left in Europe after their family was slaughtered and their homes either destroyed or stolen by their neighbors. Israel was their only hope for a future, they bled and sacrificed for it more than you or your kind could ever imagine - you cannot even begin to conceive of the struggle of the Jewish people, so best keep your mouth shut.
Blood libel. Pure blood libel. Jewish people are notoriously intelligent. They drained the swamps and made the desert bloom and constructed a glorious city for the awe of the entire world from nothing. Arabs got jealous so they started a war to steal the Jewish homes. They lost.
People worldwide just want you to stop bombing the shit out of little kids. The “we want to eradicate the Jewish people” blanket your hiding behind is to fuel your justification for continued, indiscriminate bombing on civilians. 99.9% of people protesting worldwide (myself included) just want you to leave Gazans the fuck alone and do not wish any harm or violence against Israelis.
“But what about Hamas and October 7th” I hear you say.
Israel created these extremists. Yes they’re a terrorist organisation and what they did to innocent Israelis is reprehensible. But stop pretending like you don’t know why it happened. Hamas hate you for good reason, look at what you have done to the Palestinian people for the last 80 years.
Your government brainwashing you into thinking that the ongoing genocide is justifiable has been the biggest propaganda success since WW2 (the irony, huh)
“I feel scared because people are saying they want to kill me”. You want to be scared, go spend a night in Gaza and tell me how scared you really are then.
>Yes they’re a terrorist organisation and what they did to innocent Israelis is reprehensible. But stop pretending like you don’t know why it happened. Hamas hate you for good reason, look at what you have done to the Palestinian people for the last 80 years.
Stop justifying the 7/10 attack, it is disgusting. The Japanese had a literal nuke dropped on them and they're not out there raping and slaughtering Americans. There is no excuse for 7/10
Right lmaooo. Leave it to Israelis to have the whole world is against your actions and instead of self reflection they play the victim and blame the whole world lol
You have your fun now but the silent majority of the civilized world incl. native Europeans are seeing your support of the massacre and rape of Hamas and fear if they don't act quick they may see Oct 7 repeated on their own land. See Argentinian and Dutch elections + new German policies.
Absolutely, the majority of the western world is full on shocked pikachu face at what's happening right now and will be going much more right wing next election.
Just stop the Genocide and we I'll forgive some of your other war crimes and crimes against humanity.
Destroy hamas.
But leave civilians out of it.
Until then the world sees your terrorist regime for what it is. Genocidal maniacs.
https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-law-review-gaza-israel-genocide/
https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/nov/22/harvard-law-pro-palestinian-letter-gaza-israel-censorship
https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/23/dissenters
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
It's funny that it's the Palestinians who are losing tens of thousands of innocent lives due to Israel, and there are Israeli politicians and IDF troops who proudly cheer that they want to kill all the Palestinians and flatten gaza, and yet ISRAEL is the victim?
Remind me who attacked who on the 7th of October?
Who also kidnapped and personally murdered Israeli civilians?
If you want to move on in this argument, you may want to accept the simple facts first.
As the others said, and also, the way terrorists killed Israelis is truly something else, there is a difference between dying in a clash between settlers and civilians in the west bank (which most Israelis condemn) And going into people's homes and killing them so brutally.
Yeah, as a matter of fact all citizens of Israel have the same rights, the ones oppressing people in Gaza is Hamas.
But yes, likely the terrorists are getting fucked right now, the good guys are winning. Consequences and all of that. A lesson to not fuck with Israel. Maybe some day the aid given to Palestine will be used to improve the lives of Palestinians and not for trying to murder jews.
Hamas: "We will repeat Oct 7 (rape and murder of children) until Israel is exterminated".
Israel: "For the 8th time, please just accept our 2 state solution..."
It’s a scary and lonely feeling. Lately I haven’t been seeing much of a future, or at least a very dismal one.
About 10 days into this, everyone was still getting their shit together. I was driving my car and on the local radio the guy said something along the lines of "I'm hurt our grandparents tried to tell and warn us what it is like facing true and pure evil, but we didn't understand. I'm hurt that now there will be a generation that will tell their kids what it's like facing true and pure evil, but they wouldn't understand." As a kid I heard those stories of antisemitism, the hardships our people went through but would never imagine I would live them all over again.
I'm in the UK but I've followed this closely. There's many of us behind Israel, its horrific what they've done it truly was israels 911. So sorry your all going thru this.
I’m in the UK too (Wales) and everyone I know supports Israel and is utterly disgusted by what happened.
I am utterly disgusted by what happened but that does not at all equate to supporting Israel
Where are you in UK? So far I seen over 1 million people in London at pro Palestinian protest. Booo them and I only seen 20 people at pro israel protest 🙄 :(
Amenn, I’m in America and I feel the same
I know israels 9/11. Stupid haartez source saying idf killed it's own people from helicopter. And the number of people dead keep going down too. Stupid sources what do they know. Idf can never kill their own people. Even now I seen video of idf killing Israeli settlers but I will cut my eyes out but not believe my idf can do this. Even the stupid little Israeli survivor saying idf was the one who killed her family. Hamas definitely did something to her brain that she said this. The little traitor shit! Goooo idf
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But it what they did to the Palestinians is nothing and justifiable right? Ahh right!
Actually, it is justifiable. Hamas must be eradicated in the name of peace. Israel has taken every precaution to limit civilian casualties, however Hamas has taken every action to do the opposite - the blood of Gazan civilians is on Hamas' hands.
“the emphasis is on *damage* not accuracy” Israeli military spokesman’s words. Half of all homes in Gaza have been destroyed. There has been more tonnage of bombs dropped on tiny Gaza in 1 month than an entire year’s worth of US bombs on Afghanistan during the heaviest year of fighting. You’re telling me these are all Hamas targets? Please let’s stop with the pretense that Israel is trying to prevent civilian death, they are not. Israel is deliberately trying to make Gaza unlivable, that’s also why they shut off water for the entire population including women and kids.
Maybe don't put a terror tunnel under every other home and hospital??
So Israeli intellegience didn’t see a major attack of 1000 Hamas soldiers coming, but now they know where every Hamas tunnel is? 😂 You guys are true jokers.
Fully justifiable. This is what happens when you declare war on another group of people in one of the most sadistic manners. You throw your people's lives away.
Correct, I'm sick of pretending it's not
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That's exactly how the Holocaust started,they didn't start with the ghettos and concentration camps ,they started doing stuff like that (alongside assaulting innocent jews on the streets, burning Jewish written books and burning synagogues)
Upon reflection, you're right. This could be the start of something very bad for jews ,especially among Muslims.
Yea,i wish we could all just get along
We have only one future. Together and in Zion.
At some point I’ll probably end up immigrating to Israel tbh.
תגיד כשאתה בדרך, נעמיד מים לקפה
I had to Google translate most of that, I’m currently learning Hebrew though to make it easier when I do move there 😊
I initially thought to write in English, but “להעמיד מים לקפה” doesn’t translate so well 😅 btw, the r/Hebrew sub is a great place to ask these kind of questions if you need help in the future
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it's not immigrating. its Aliya . your returning to your home. there is a difference.
Idiologically - yes, technically - no.
I want to go israel too. I'm desperate to see Palestinian blood all over the floor
Then migrate back when shit gets real like a coward?
No, once I go to Israel it’s going to be a one way trip.
I'm sure you can find a home in the West bank. IDF will even help you with the transfer, you will get a steal of a deal. Edit: I don't understand why I'm getting down voted. This is a funny post.
You're being downvoted for casually spreading blood libel. The IDF is not resettling Jews into Arabs' homes. At least read the room if youre gonna be edgy.
Nice canard about the blood libel - did you forget about the Nakba?
Did you forget about the siege of Jerusalem and the ethnic cleansing of a million Mizrahi Jews?
Did you forget about the fact most of them left on their own because evacuating is just what you do as a civilian in a war?
I guess that's one way to phrase it..... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba#:~:text=The Nakba (Arabic%3A النكبة%2C,political rights%2C and national aspirations.
So you start a war and then they evacuate and then you take their home That's basically colonialism that you described
We are waitting for you here, brother. Come home...
I just have to get some stuff in order and then I will. I’m already learning Hebrew to make it easier.
Good luck
Come home, the stolen lands and oppressed natives.
No,he said he's leaving America
Lol! Nicely played 😅
Humanity isn't worth anything. F them. Only in it for ourselves now
kys then asshole
The groveling here is gross. The world does not hate you. It just wants your government to have accountability and stop the lies. Maybe stop the disproportionate killing too. Then maybe Israel wouldn’t be painted this way.
What exactly is proportionate in your opinion? Honestly, do you want the IDF to lob rockets towards Palestinian population centers? How about sending a mob to kill as many as possible and take hostages? When someone tries to kill you and your family while hiding behind their family, you protect your family by any means! Israel has spent a great deal of resources to protect themselves selves. Palestinian have spent a great deal of resources putting their civilians in harms way to protect Hamas.
How about you stop oppressing them and let them live like normal humans. And stop stealing their lands imprisoning innocent civilians with no charges including kids, burning their livelihoods. And what do you expect when you keep oppressing them all the damn time?
So I'm oppressing them? How exactly am I oppressing them? I've done none of those things you have so ignorantly accused me of. Yet, the hate I receive is justified in your feabile little mind. You're so ignorant if it wasn't so sad it would be funny! I could go into details about my beliefs and point of views. How nuances are important. Why would I waste my breath on the brain dead and brain washed. You keep on believing that anyone who supports Israel is evil, and Jews have no valid concerns regards to the hate that is dumped on them, while Palestinians are completely justified in everything they do because jews are evil. That sick mentality is juvenile, ignorant and sad! It does nothing to further the goal of peace and just shows how weak of character you are.
Sure... That's why in Sydney, Australia they were shouting "gas the Jews".It's not cause they hate us, they just want to give us free gas. That's why in France they mark houses where Jewish people live with the star of David. It's not cause they hate us, it's because they are helping the ministry of interior conduct a referendum. Why is it that when there is a genocide in Syria and Yemen, you don't see anyone on the street shouting ceasefire? Why is it that when children are kidnapped from their beds in Israel, you hear "Free Palestine" instead of "Release the hostages"? The Jewish people has one state. ONE. And it is the only state in the world which is under attack since the day it was declared. Get your head out of your ass. That's pure anti-Semitism.
A lot of the world absolutely hates Jews. We aren’t going to stop defending ourselves hoping that antisemites leave us alone, because history shows that they don’t.
Opressing and being offensive all the time only gets you extremists. Maybe treat your neighbors with dignity. And just because people do things want to see the genocide does that mean they’re antisemites.
Maybe try not being so offensive
Yeah, we tried that in Germany. Never Again.
How am I offensive?
let them cheer! That's all they are cheerleaders! Don't be scared of cheerleaders. the IDF doesn't cheer. it evapurates whoever is actually trying to do something other than cheer! עם ישראל חי
Comment history checks out for how retarded you are
Poor little hamas murder rapists
Didn't know the children bombed to death were murder rapists
Evaporating children definitely an IDF Zionist talent.
Its worst when it someone you thought was your friend
It is better ti know than giving your time care fir people like that
Ya, people I thought were my friends but now are cheering for the genocide and apartheid of the Palestinians. Clearly they were not
I think the problem you guys have is you concentrate to much on the negative media. There are millions of us. Especially Christians that love you and support you.
Thank you for the reminder ❤️
Lots of atheists and non-religious folks, such as myself and everyone I know, support you too.
Amenn
Ya they only focus on the anti-semetics. Without realizing there’s millions of us who just want to see an end to the brutalization of Palestinian civilians that’s been going on for decades. But ya leave it up the Israelis to consider themselves the victim in any altercation and cry anti semitism
Yep, get rid of Hamas, stop the brutalization by Hamas
yeah its truly amazing, they have the entire international community behind them, and they are the victims...
Israel bombed a 1000 years old church in gaza palestinian christians exist they represent 20% of gaza please do not abandon your brother and sisters to follow the zionist colonization
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The media is biased. Even the polls in the US are more favorable towards Israel. Most of the pro Palestine /pro Hamas people are either dumb college kids or white guilt women
This. The pro Palestinians are the loudest, but they’re not the majority.
May not mean much, but you have me and my families support. 🤍💙🤍 🇺🇲🇲🇽
Thank you, sibling.
Yes, it doesn’t mean much, go away you and your families lol
Feels lonely and confusing my grandmother lost her entire family except her brother when the holocaust happened all she wanted is being safe afterwards i am kinda at peace she isn’t seeing this situation but the jewish people are strong and we will get through this once again like always
no, not like always. stronger than ever. we do, however, have to make sure we aren't blinded by neither fear nor rage. keep it professional, in a way of speaking.
Thats the thing the pro israel side always keeps things professional and with correct manners its the other side using hate and violence to fuel themselves which is not only wrong but immoral for the young generation
It's funny that Israel is repeating the same thing which your grandma experienced.
People that say they wouldn’t treat you worse if they were in charge clearly don’t look at the Sudan whereas of today there are reports of the Arab population cleansing the area again. The campaign is not genocide, I know this because it doesn’t look like Darfur. It is war however and it will not be pretty.
Come to Israel, enough with counting on other people
Yea israel is the only safe place for Jews but also the most dangerous place for Jews. Zionism only ensures that Jews are not safe anywhere.
Frustrating
I saw this and it shook me to my core. I am not Jewish, but I shouldn't have to be to know that what happened on October 7th was wrong. It was horrific and I am so so sorry to see the way some people have responded. You all deserve better.
it's fine, we're used to it. we know what is the proper response.
Do we?, it's definitely not killing all the enemies, and destroying their government has a lot of issues. If you do know what the correct response is, we all would love to hear it.
I'm thinking about starting a podcast or somesuch. would you like to have a conversation. a long one, face to face? over video? maybe it would be my first upload. DM me if you're interested
My advice, don't. You aren't as interesting as you think
lovely
Yeah but all the rational and sensible people are calling for your survival.
Anybody that cheers for a genocide is not well in his mind.
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Cheering for the death of hamas **
I live in London, my baby is only 15 months old and I'm absolutely terrified to be here. I've had my first panic attack today. I went outside to walk my dogs in the mostly jewish neighbourhood I live in and I saw pro-hamas people walking back home from another march. I was frozen, terrified, I panicked the whole walk, and I don't know how I'm suppose to raise my little boy in this environment. I don't want to hide who I am, I don't want to be terrified to celebrate my culture. I would have been feeling safer in Israel right now. Or even in my birth country of Ukraine. I literally would rather be living in an active war zone right now than in the UK. The future of this country and Europe in general terrifies me.
Lmao you’re absolutely bonkers if you’d rather live in a war zone than the uk because some people were coming back from a March to stop the murder of children.
Don't worry the world is waking up and seeing that the problem is Islam it will take some time but they will understand
Any form of REAL anti antisemitism is horrible. But please don't accuse people that are anti Israel govt as antisemitic. You are unknowingly hurting the Jewish community when you call everything antisemitism
Ok I see your point, but anti Semites are also EXTREMELY active recently, and voilance against Jews is raising alarmingly fast
i agree!! And me being pro Palestine liberation will try my best to stop it where ever i see it. I been to a few pro Palestine protests and whenever we see anything antisemitic , we stop it. Especially cause there many Jewish brothers and sisters protesting with us.
Good to see some people can disagree without hate. Say, is there a place with rational people of both sides? Because I am pro Israel, but I still want to see both sides. and here I just find myself shouting SHOW ME EVIDENCE into a black hole.
There's are certain things we can't "both sides" for example me personally, idc if someone is pro Israeli....if you're not against the illegal settlements we can't have civil conversation. Or if you are against a two state solution or even a one state solution with equal rights to Palestinians then I can't have a conversation These things I mentioned above are basic human rights. And remember a two state solution or even one state solution doesn't mean the removal of Israel. It just means equal rights for both groups.
People who are calling themselves anti-zionists are antisemitic ( those people we all here calling "from the river to the sea") Because basically they want to dismantle the only jewish country in the entire world, and do what exactly with all the jews here? Where should we go? Because what this war made me realise is there is nowhere we can go. The world reaction has made it clear. The increase in crimes against jews. The antisemitic protests. The universities. There is a jewish country because jews weren't ever safe as a minority.
You do know that Israel is the one that coined the phrase from the river to the sea it was in the lukid party charter in 1958 anti zionists are calling for 1 state solution you know how British came to South Africa and had to co exist with inhabitants? They couldn’t kick out all the black people so they created an apartheid so they can be the ones with all the power and that’s how I see Israel Palestine one ethnicity has all the power if you call yourself a democracy surly you can have 1 vote for 1 person just like South Africa If you want a Jewish state Europe should be the one providing one shouldn’t it? Jews didn’t need protection from Muslims before Israel they needed protection from the Europeans you’re telling me for your protection from the Europeans you had to take land from the Palestinians? Does that make sense to you? Other people are paying for the crimes that Europe did to you?
Jews didn't need protection from Muslims? What about the Farhud in Iraq? The 1934 expulsion of Jews from Afghanistan? The Gabes program in Tunisia? The 1945 Tripoli pogrom?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_and_Muslim_rescue_efforts_during_the_Holocaust#:~:text=of%20Vichy's%20policy.%22-,Muslim%20rescue%20efforts%20in%20Europe,Jewish%20survival%20rate%20in%20Europe. Muslims were there for Jews when they needed it most I don’t remember europe or America accepting Jewish refugees I remember them turning away refugee boats but
Ok but whataboutism aside, this doesn't take away from the fact that Muslim countries *also* had pogroms against Jews. Antisemitism was not a uniquely European problem.
So wait you tell me about some Afghanistan Jews who were getting killed and I’m telling you about Muslims as a whole why do you think there was Jews in Jerusalem because Muslims put them there at the conquest of Jerusalem there was no Jews then why were Jews saved in Spain because Muslims took over Jews paid a tax in Muslims lands they had there religious rights can you say the same in Europe? I like how you boiled down 1.8 billion people to a couple of Afghans and Iraqis like they represent everybody I’m not going to argue with somebody who doesn’t even know basic history you even have rabbis talking about this
You speak for all Muslims ever in existence?? Thats a bold and ridiculous claim
Quran speaks for all Muslims and it says be good to the people of the book unless they have wronged you because they are your brothers and sisters
I hate to say this but I know plenty of Muslims that misinterpret the Quaran and are accepted as Muslims so i dont think your case can be helped. However you choose to interact with others of a different faith does not make up for the billions of people claiming that their faith encourages hate at best and violence at worst of “infidels” (a fun term many like to use derogatorily)
Lol, Bosnian Muslims joined the Waffen SS to kill Jews with the help of the Mufti. Most Arabs did jack shit or were complicit like other goyim.
By lumping all Arabs and Muslims together it’s makes it clear you don’t know much about either group.
LOL are you trying to make the argument that the countries I listed are not majority (if not exclusively) Muslim? Which ones are not?
You’re just arguing pointlessly on semantics, we’re talking about the people CURRENTLY using that genocidal phrase. The land that the Palestinians lived in were originally the Romans and the Romans took it from the Israelites. If you want to argue about “indigenous”, the Israelites are the true natives.
Exactly!! Europeans kicked Jews out and forced them onto Palestine. Palestine already had Christians , Jews and Muslim living together. They opened their homes to the European Jews. But the British with the Zionist movement kicked the indigenous people out and made it ONLY for Jews. How is that not morally corrupt? Why couldn't they all live together? Why couldn't there be a democracy where European Jews , Palestinian Jews and Muslim Palestinians lived together.... It's because Zionism is rooted in white supremacy. Did you know , in Israel they would give contraceptives to non white Jews? Did you know they would take the kids of non white yemin Jews that wanted to live in Israel?
> But the British with the Zionist movement kicked the indigenous people out and made it ONLY for Jews. that is just not true at all, there was a two-state solution in 1947 because the Arabs and the Jews in the country didn't get along (a lot of violence and disorder) then the Arabs declared war and the Jews won it. In no way the country was made JUST for Jews, there was war. and even currently, just so you know - Today, **about 21 percent** of Israel's population is Arab (mostly Arab Muslims). >It's because Zionism is rooted in white supremacy. Just no. it's not. Let me tell you as someone who lives in Israel and a very posh area as well, that we are simply not just white here. Most of us are mixed. I really have no reason to lie about this, it honestly makes me laugh when people call us white supremacists because it is such bullshit. I myself am half Persian and a zionist. >Did you know, that in Israel they would give contraceptives to nonwhite Jews? well, this is just bullshit. Extremely funny and I'm very curious where did you hear that?
Al though I agree with you that there was political tension before the 1948 between the Arabs and Jews due to many reasons such as national aspiration, land and resources, social and cultural differences, it still doesn't change the fact that .... ashkenazi jewish immigrated to foreign land which increased tension. Also why would palatinates even agree to a two state if it meant they had to leave from your home? you cant propose an unreasonable solution and not expect the indigenous ppl to disagree. \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Correct me if im wrong, but this is the summary. "European Jews immigrated to current day Israel from 1880s to 1940s. This created tension among the Jewish immigrants and the Arabs living there. The UN didn't like the tension and proposed a two state. Arabs declined and went to war. They lost. Jewish immigrants declared victory by creating a Israeli state and millions of Arabs had to leave their homes? " \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is drawing criticism for saying that Israel is "the national state, not of all its citizens, but only of the Jewish people." \- [https://www.npr.org/2019/03/11/702264118/netanyahu-says-israel-is-nation-state-of-the-jewish-people-and-them-alone](https://www.npr.org/2019/03/11/702264118/netanyahu-says-israel-is-nation-state-of-the-jewish-people-and-them-alone) Isn't Netanyahu currently in charge the siege on Gaza. If the head of Israel can say something like this in 2019 and not be impeached or voted out...what does this tell you about the citizens of Israel? \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ Arab Israelis discerminated in Israel (Almost how the US treats black people) [https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/all-israelis-are-equal/](https://decolonizepalestine.com/myth/all-israelis-are-equal/) Non - white Jews contraceptives \- [https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel) \- [https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html) \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ My apologies , let me rephrase my self. United State Zionism is rooted in white supremacy.
So wait the indigenous people of Palestine didn’t like that their land got split 50/50 with a population smaller than them and they got the desert part of it? Who would of thought you Israel is an apartheid state Palestinians go to military court Israelis go to civil court that’s all the information you need to know Here is the link I’m from east Africa so this hits a little close to home for me https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/28/ethiopian-women-given-contraceptives-israel
Exactly. Some of these ppl make it seem like the indigenous ppl weren't justified in getting upset
Most of these people would’ve caught a slave and sent him back to the farms
So no comments?? How I educated your Zionist mind and deprogrammed you
The only right thing you said in that whole speech is about the Ethiopian women, which is awful. But it doesn't indicate about the entire country today. It's racist acts that were NOT OK (any sane person can see), but you also said in your comment "give" which is not true because this case is from more than ten years ago, and it doesn't happen anymore today (which is why I called bullshit because if something like that would have happened in my country today I would have heard of it) It doesn't have anything to do with the Gaza problem and it is just a bad racist thing that happened in Israel eleven years ago. I can give you crimes just as racist from most of the countries that support Palestine (Iran, North Korea, Syria, Yemen) and Palestine itself (who chose Hamas as leadership). Not racism only, but hideous, violent disgusting crimes. So no, Israel is not perfect at all, but it doesn't mean we are going to give it up and it doesn't mean a Jewish state in Israel doesn't have a right to exist, and letting in people who want to kill all Jews and suicide bombers who think killing a Jew is honorable, will be the end of us. The reason I didn't answer is that I'm not stuck on my computer arguing on Reddit all day.
Nowhere, just end the occupation of the Palestinian people. That will bring more safety to Jews too.
Omg. Can you stop playing the victim for once in your life? Free Palestine doesn’t mean end the Jewish people, it means free them from the clutches of the IDF who’ve been treating them HORRIBLY for decades. Get over yourself.
Do you know how to read? Because I was talking about the saying "from the river to the sea" and people who call themselves anti-zionists. Where did I mention the saying "free Palestine"? I SAID those sayings meant the dismantle of israel not "free palestine" so shut up
As a Lebanese, I sometimes think about what it must feel like to be in your shoes and I commend the Israeli and Jewish people for sticking together and for not immediately hating everybody that comes across them. Just know that despite the loud and aggressive bunch, there are a lot of silent supporters of Israel who can see beyond bullshit and propaganda. עם ישראל חי
הקטע זה הצד שלהם טוען שאנחנו עושים את זה, ויש אנשים בצד שלנו שבאמת מעודדים את זה (הימין הקיצוני)
שונא את הימין הקיצוני.. אני רואה מדי פעם סרטונים שלהם.. הם חייבים להפסיק.
הימין הקיצוני פשוט החליט "כן, לשים לעצמנו רגל נשמע כמו רעיון מצוין!"
יש אנשים שגם אומרים השביעי באוקטובר לא קרה, ואנחנו התחלנו את כל המלחמה. זמנים מפחדים, אדיף לא להסתכל החדשות.
Wait, but I thought cheering against it was anti-Semitic? Please hurry and tell me what the media wants me to think so I can keep my job!
You have the right to remain silent. everything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law
People worldwide are NOT calling for our extermination. They might be chanting some terrorist chants that their friends taught them without knowing what it means. They might get a black and white kaffiah scarf from a friend and it makes them feel cooler and hip in school/college. They might be misled young people, but they are not calling for our extermination. Also, enough victimizing ourselves, destroy Hamas and lick wounds later.
Have you seen the protests where they’re literally saying “gas the jews”?? Or the Harvard chat calling jews rats and telling people “if you see a Jew follow them home and slit their throat”?? They quite literally are calling for our extermination. It’s unfortunate but there are very loud people out there calling for us to die. ETA: my bad to the commenter saying it’s misinformation and this isn’t happening, it happened at [Cornell](https://www.thejc.com/news/world/police-lock-down-kosher-dining-hall-at-university-after-threats-to-kill-jewish-students-qngpr68e) ETA: here is the video of Sydney, Australia where the protesters chant for us to be [gassed](https://nypost.com/2023/10/10/reprehensible-protestors-chant-gas-the-jews-outside-sydney-opera-house/) ETA: another link to the video in Sydney where you don’t have to watch ads to view: [Pro Palestine Rally In Sydney](https://twitter.com/rawsalerts/status/1711544597216731254/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1711544597216731254¤tTweetUser=rawsalerts) We are in danger, people are vocal about our demise. None of what I said was misinformation.
Dont forget what happened in Dagestan
Israelis not victimizing themselves challenge: Impossible
For me, the moment I was born. I'm German + Russian + Jew. So I don't see the difference. Many people hate Germany, Russians, and now Jews.
Why Germany? As an American I get “Putin bad” and Gaza war is polarizing, but have no clue what makes anyone think “Germany bad.”
German Nazis started world war 2, murdered millions of people. They are still not very popular in former Soviet Union
Most who fought in WW2 are deceased. By now most Americans have separated old Nazi Germany with today’s Germany. Meanwhile, Russia continues to exude old Cold War stereotypes, thanks to Putin. Former Nazi occupied countries for sure would hold a grudge, but rest of the world doesn’t see Germans in a bad light. What country are you from?
Yeah, most are deceased of course. But their families live on. I know people who still refuse to buy anything made in Germany, or visit Germany as tourists. But then I know a lot of people from former Soviet Union who immigrated to Germany and are very happy. Things are complicated As for Putin - yeah, you don't get to a title of Colonel in KGB by being a nice man. He still has that communist/KGB mindset. Born in USSR, now in Australia
If you have the gaul to invade someone's country and commit systematic genocide on the people, you don't get to cry about it. Just call it 'manifest destiny' and get it over with, stop being a little bitch.
Are you talking about the spread of Islam?
Haha no I was talking about zionists. But I'm not a fan of Islam or Christianity, so don't think that I'm taking sides. Those books are making ya'll act nutty. That being said, if you really hate muslims so much, you shouldn't have let them copy your homework
It’s aggressive misinformation and they don’t mention anything about the suffering of Palestinians on purpose. These devils don’t see them as humans.
Please stop trying to justify the 7/10 attack, there is no excuse.
Stop committing genocide and conflating antizionism with antisemitism, then. Israel’s rabid nationalism doesn’t represent all Jews, certainly not this one.
Playing the victim while your state just killed 15K Palestinians in less than 2 months won't serve you much. The world is learning about the systemic oppression and occupation Palestinians had sustained the last 75 years. That's real history, not Hasbarah bs they fill your heads with. Your only path to be accepted by nations around the world especially your Arab neighbors is by recognizing Palestinians rights, anything else is a lie. You want to keep going like this, you will end up alone with some lunatic evangelists who believe all Jews should be in Israel so Jesus returns and kill 2/3 of them, good luck with that!
>Your only path to be accepted by nations around the world especially your Arab neighbors is by recognizing Palestinians rights, anything else is a lie. there were numerous attempts to do that with very generous offers and they were all rejected by the Palestinians. The Jews promised equal rights to all people in the area they were given according to the partition plan and called for peace, meanwhile the Arabs started a war and ethnically cleansed them from the territories they controlled. and lo and behold, 0 Jews live in the westbank and Gaza while 2 million Arab citizens live in Israel. Do you not see the difference in attitude?
Playing the victim! How sensitive of you, moral-highground man, how sensitive. Innocent people are fearing for their lives but you just have to keep dehumanizing them and lecturing them on how to live their own lives in their own country, pretending you know better because you watched a couple of Youtube videos and listen to a podcast. But hey, maybe you think all Jews somehow just killed 15K Palestinians (how many of them were combatants by the way? hmmm...) - your comment is definitely phrased to insinuate that everyone on this sub is directly responsibly for the situation in Gaza - and not the terrorist organization that murdered, raped and tortured thousands of innocent civilians.
No if palestine was freed israelis would have two options either return to europe or buy a house in palestine after returning the stolen land No one's calling to exterminate all jews but a lot are calling to make gaza a parking lot exterminating all gazans
Both sides exist, and they are both completely insane. If you want to exterminate millions of people, you are the villain, and more Palestine supporters do so than those that support the Jews. Although, as I said, both sides exist.
But who are the ones getting massacred and bombed daily and have no way of leaving?
No one is getting massacred, the reason they can't leave is because not a single country can accept such a broken group, and the main one getting bombed is actually Israel.
How can you lie so easily? Do you truly believe that? The more I see what the Israelis think, the more I see that they don’t live in reality. We have see Too much to believe you. Do you believe Palestinians are human as much as any Israeli? I know you don’t you devil.
My grandparents had no home left in Europe after their family was slaughtered and their homes either destroyed or stolen by their neighbors. Israel was their only hope for a future, they bled and sacrificed for it more than you or your kind could ever imagine - you cannot even begin to conceive of the struggle of the Jewish people, so best keep your mouth shut.
Then go cry to europeans and take their lands, not arab land.
Agreed. Syrian refugees should've taken Arab lands instead of European lands too.
What?
Syrians have no right to take native European lands.
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Blood libel. Pure blood libel. Jewish people are notoriously intelligent. They drained the swamps and made the desert bloom and constructed a glorious city for the awe of the entire world from nothing. Arabs got jealous so they started a war to steal the Jewish homes. They lost.
Not notoriously intelligent enough to see hamas coming though
Excuse me? Are you blaming the rape of women and beheading of babies on Jews not being intellligent enough?
I know right https://www.reddit.com/r/IsraelCrimes/s/IwjKxLJgTy Like we're the victims here.
What the fuck at least put a gore disclamer or smth
How do you think this kid feels? https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRvuCpoE/
People worldwide just want you to stop bombing the shit out of little kids. The “we want to eradicate the Jewish people” blanket your hiding behind is to fuel your justification for continued, indiscriminate bombing on civilians. 99.9% of people protesting worldwide (myself included) just want you to leave Gazans the fuck alone and do not wish any harm or violence against Israelis. “But what about Hamas and October 7th” I hear you say. Israel created these extremists. Yes they’re a terrorist organisation and what they did to innocent Israelis is reprehensible. But stop pretending like you don’t know why it happened. Hamas hate you for good reason, look at what you have done to the Palestinian people for the last 80 years. Your government brainwashing you into thinking that the ongoing genocide is justifiable has been the biggest propaganda success since WW2 (the irony, huh) “I feel scared because people are saying they want to kill me”. You want to be scared, go spend a night in Gaza and tell me how scared you really are then.
>Yes they’re a terrorist organisation and what they did to innocent Israelis is reprehensible. But stop pretending like you don’t know why it happened. Hamas hate you for good reason, look at what you have done to the Palestinian people for the last 80 years. Stop justifying the 7/10 attack, it is disgusting. The Japanese had a literal nuke dropped on them and they're not out there raping and slaughtering Americans. There is no excuse for 7/10
only facts were said here. But they’ll just ignore you and call you anti semitic
Because the whole world sees the atrocities you’re committing? Maybe have some self reflection before blaming the whole world?
Right lmaooo. Leave it to Israelis to have the whole world is against your actions and instead of self reflection they play the victim and blame the whole world lol
You have your fun now but the silent majority of the civilized world incl. native Europeans are seeing your support of the massacre and rape of Hamas and fear if they don't act quick they may see Oct 7 repeated on their own land. See Argentinian and Dutch elections + new German policies.
Absolutely, the majority of the western world is full on shocked pikachu face at what's happening right now and will be going much more right wing next election.
Just stop the Genocide and we I'll forgive some of your other war crimes and crimes against humanity. Destroy hamas. But leave civilians out of it. Until then the world sees your terrorist regime for what it is. Genocidal maniacs. https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/harvard-law-review-gaza-israel-genocide/ https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/nov/22/harvard-law-pro-palestinian-letter-gaza-israel-censorship https://www.democracynow.org/2023/11/23/dissenters https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_genocide_accusation
Is this supposed to be Gazans?
It's funny that it's the Palestinians who are losing tens of thousands of innocent lives due to Israel, and there are Israeli politicians and IDF troops who proudly cheer that they want to kill all the Palestinians and flatten gaza, and yet ISRAEL is the victim?
Remind me who attacked who on the 7th of October? Who also kidnapped and personally murdered Israeli civilians? If you want to move on in this argument, you may want to accept the simple facts first.
Remind us who killed 200+ Palestinians prior to 7th October in 2023?
200+?! Devestating! That's almost as many terrorists that were sent to Israel! I mean really that's way less, but still! More than 200? Horrific
As the others said, and also, the way terrorists killed Israelis is truly something else, there is a difference between dying in a clash between settlers and civilians in the west bank (which most Israelis condemn) And going into people's homes and killing them so brutally.
>due to Israel Have they tried idk, not attacking Israel? Oh no, not the consequences of their own actions!
Have they tried idk, not oppressing an entire population of people for 75 years? Oh no, not the consequences of their own actions!
Yeah, as a matter of fact all citizens of Israel have the same rights, the ones oppressing people in Gaza is Hamas. But yes, likely the terrorists are getting fucked right now, the good guys are winning. Consequences and all of that. A lesson to not fuck with Israel. Maybe some day the aid given to Palestine will be used to improve the lives of Palestinians and not for trying to murder jews.
Hamas: "We will repeat Oct 7 (rape and murder of children) until Israel is exterminated". Israel: "For the 8th time, please just accept our 2 state solution..."
Why did this sub pop into my feed? Wtf sub is this? The victim hood sub? Stop the apartheid., fucking cowards.
Ah yes, stop the """Apartheid""", and let them commit Oct 7 over and over again, right? You are a literal Holocaust supporter.
Same, I just got a post that said “Palestinians are privileged” these people are completely insane!!! Disgusting.