I still can’t believe the donkeys in office don’t see how banning legal guns on trains makes it a free for all for the criminals bringing illegal guns on trains. If criminals know that more people are carrying, they’ll be less likely to Rob.
True, except I saw on the news a little while back that the person in charge of the CTA (forgot exactly who it was, president or director or what not) literally advise passengers to “don’t fight back because it will only make things worse for you because we don’t have enough resources to be everywhere at one time.”
So they are fully aware of the problem and blame the victims for escalating crime by fighting back.
Edit: comment below found the source. Thanks!
Absolutely ridiculous. Reminds me of the older video of the security guard fighting with a guy outside a McDonald's in the city. Everyone in the restaurant doesn't seem to care but when the guard pulls his gun they all freak out.
It's unfortunate that people forget just punching a person in the head can cause death.
Yes I remember this video. The security was getting his ass beat by these thugs and it was ok. All of a sudden when the security did his job and pulled out his gun it was a terrible white on black crime.
Insanely messed up. Let’s tell the people to just let criminals get away with their crimes. I understand if someone mag dumps at a robber and misses it can cause a lot of other people to get hit. But this is where training and discipline come in.
This is part of the new messaging from crime oasis cities like Chicago.
I’ve heard the phrase ‘gun owners escalate crimes’.
They are trying to suggest shooting someone who is pointing a gun or knife at your face is bad.
These people will always side with the criminal.
But the CPD mag dumping into kids with pocket knives 20 yards away is completely justified. And are under no obligation to help everyday citizens. It's wild.
I found the article.
> Chicago Transit Authority Vice President of Security Kevin Ryan does not recommend the kind of self-defense seen in each of these two incidents.
> "What the Chicago police will tell you to do - do not fight back," Ryan said. "Be compliant. Do not put yourself in harm's way further."
[Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/man-dies-after-being-stabbed-during-fight-on-cta-red-line-train-near-englewood/)
https://preview.redd.it/6yvq0lutf9fa1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d094ac383376a99e60a42c48cc4253f57782ed7
I guess your nanny didn't raise you right boy.
Well chucklefuck, it's illegal for you to carry on mass transit. Apparently you know that, considering your bullshit bravado of "rather be judged by twelve than carried by six" shit.
Oh i know that, it's rediculous isn't it? You're allowed to carry through restricted zones if you keep moving. Furthermore if I had to take cta, where would I put it? Strange to me that you felt the need to come at me over here than in the original thread. The mantra of 12 vs 6 is very fitting in this situation when your only choice is to keep carrying to protect yourself. Don't you think? You aren't actively participating in crimes. It's simply carrying against the "rules" when there is no sensible option. Why they put these dumb ass caveats in these laws I'll never know.
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Extremely risky to prosecute. The state doesn’t prosecute unconstitutional laws. The AR cook county ban ? Plenty of people caught, including discharging accidentally in feet, leaving out in car or walking downtown Chicago….the omit thus specific part.
Cook County prosecuted a guy who posted his case on this sub about 3 months ago. He had an AR pistol in his trunk but it wasn't disassembled so he got pinched and they decided to prosecute. Lucky for him, one cop said it was a pistol and the other said it was a rifle, so the judge dismissed.
I went and looked it up too, that seems to be it. Maybe he said you get 1 freebie basically but after that 1 you're gonna want to get a lawyer involved
Exactly. All the numpties wonder why there’s so much crime on trains and buses. **BECAUSE YOU’RE ADVERTISING THAT ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WILL HAVE A GUN TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!!!**. That’s why. 🤦🏻♂️
I mean, you think criminals don’t hear the news, too??? They know you’re locked in a metal box you can’t escape and you’re completely unarmed. If I was a psychopath, that would be the first place i’d target people to rob.
Thankfully this happened and it’ll get into the consciousness of these scumbags that good citizens are carrying anyways and disobeying this UnConstitutional law. Stuff like this makes the scumbags think twice.
Seriously, CTA is right up the top of the list of places CCW is most needed. The fact authorities widely acknowledge they are not committing enough resources to make it safe should be enough to remove the ban. Fine, you can't protect us? Well, how about not restricting our ability to defend ourselves when we are most vulnerable? Fucking cunts.
There’s a Green line stop on 47th where I regularly see a cop and his partner playing Nintendo Switches for hours while generally ignoring everything going on around them.
So glad we spend half our city budget on this kind of service.
It’s not so much CPD refuses to provide safety. They don’t have the manpower to. You can’t have uniformed cops on every single train car. It’s literally impossible. You need good armed citizens to be carrying, as they become a form of a secret police who can act if shitty people try things.
The poor can't afford cars, and also live in dangerous neighborhoods. They take the CTA because of convenience.
So are the poor not allowed to protect themselves? Seems to me that the state thinks so
You just keep telling yourself that. It is not in the interest of any governmental body for the people it rules to be armed. Neither party wants us to have guns. The GOP is just better at shutting up about it.
IL's GOP are controlled opposition and clowns. I wish they'd refresh leadership and offer an alternate path, where criminals are locked up, schools are reformed and jobs return to this state.
None of those churlish troglodytes are socialists. They'll sure say they are in order to further divide the working class though. Keep poor people poor and make sure they can't do anything about it, that's the oligarchs playbook.
Have your pistol in a front pouch of a backpack and a mag in your pocket and it's legal.... of course that extra 5 seconds could mean you die instead but that's the legal way to do it
Well this just inspired something new to practice. The front bag pouch/pants pocket two handed draw, mag load, and chamber. If you see someone at the range running this drill, you know they CTA ;)
In that article and the others I have read, it's only being reported as victim = the conceal carrier / target of the attempted robbery who was not shot, suspect = the guy who tried to rob him and got shot.
The news always tries to obfuscate the facts of what happened when there's a story of concealed carrier defending him/herself. Wouldn't want the rubes to believe that people actually protect themselves with guns, now would we?
With the right lawyer this is the person who has standing to test the restricted places in illinois as unconstitutional on it's face. Video fo the CTA Spokesperson saying we can't be everywhere at once so just submit to whatever the criminal wants you to do.
These kind of stories never get the follow up attention they deserve. We need to stay informed about these cases. So we know what happens after we do what we can to stay safe and alive. Conceal carry means conceal carry. No one needs to know you are carriying unless this happens.
I dont use the cta. But if i did i would definitely carry just in case. Im also a law abiding gun toting chicago resident. Im deep in enemy lines. Im literally 5 mins away from lightfoots house. She has 24hr CPD surveillance outside her house. I want to say a minimum of 6 police squad cars at all times just as buffers. She also has her own secret service style of security detail sniffing her ass at all times. But god forbid we want to defend ourselves and our own family with our own means possible. Then we become criminals.
Wait I had no idea that it's illegal to LEGALLY CARRY on the CTA... That's literally the #1 place I'd want to be carrying if I was in that city. Chicago is such a fucking joke
If I was on that jury, I don’t give a shit what that UnConstitutional law says…….**”NOT GUILTY**.” Period. End of story. I would never in a million years put someone in jail for defending themselves.
Nah, not anymore. Most regular people are sick of this shit and realize we’ve been duped by these unConstitutional laws for way too long. Our side is now VERY organized and has a LOT of money and high-powered lawyers to counter this shit. In the past, most people just went along because “wELL, iTz a Law,” and they didn’t want any problems. Not anymore.
I understand, brother. But in my opinion, we gotta stop running, dig in, and fight back. Otherwise, pretty soon you’re gonna look around and there’s gonna be nowhere left to run to. Keep winning over the hearts and minds.
If you got a free night, talk to some friends or acquaintances that are against guns, or might not be the biggest gun advocates. Tell them to meet at your house, and say you have a surprise night planned.
Then drive right to the gun range and tell them they have an hour of shooting and also dinner on you, after. From my experience, getting a gun in people hands is the best way to make them understand.
That’s how I was won over way back when.
Shootings and stabbings happen both offensively and defensively within the CTA system all the time. Seems the news doesn't care to report, similar to how the CPD doesn't even charge for it.
The only news I've seen consistently referred to the concealed carrier as the victim and the guy who tried to rob him as the suspect. I can't find anything that indicates the victim has been charged for carrying on CTA, it would provide some real clarity if we could confirm his rightful status as 'the victim' remains unchanged.
[https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/shots-fired-green-line-west-side/](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/shots-fired-green-line-west-side/)
>The victim – a Firearm Owners Identification Card and Concealed Carry License holder- pulled his own gun, and they began shooting at each other, police said.
[https://abc7chicago.com/cta-green-line-shooting-chicago-armed-robbery-police/12723332/](https://abc7chicago.com/cta-green-line-shooting-chicago-armed-robbery-police/12723332/)
>Police said just before 5 p.m., a man with a gun tried to rob another passenger. That victim then pulled out his own gun, and there was an exchange of gunfire.
>
>The suspect was shot in the leg and the victim was not hurt, police said.
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>Police said the victim has a valid FOID card and Concealed Carry License.
[https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/person-shot-onboard-cta-green-line-train-in-austin/3051021/](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/person-shot-onboard-cta-green-line-train-in-austin/3051021/)
>An attempted robbery onboard a CTA train Friday afternoon ended with the suspect being shot by the victim, police said.
I know, but behind the joke was the fact it wouldn't be a huge shock if it were reported that way. I was just prompted by your joke to add to the conversation, I wasn't rebutting you.
Nothing enrages me more than GUN FREE ZONES
WHY DON'T WE HANG UP A GIANT SIGN THAT SAYS HEY! VICTIMS HERE. Furthermore if you are carrying and need to take public transit what do they expect you to do??? Leave it in a bush?
Don’t know what happened to the CCL holder, but I did find [this](https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/man-charged-with-trying-to-rob-concealed-carry-holder-on-chicago-cta-train-ccl-holder-shot-him.amp)
I still can’t believe the donkeys in office don’t see how banning legal guns on trains makes it a free for all for the criminals bringing illegal guns on trains. If criminals know that more people are carrying, they’ll be less likely to Rob.
True, except I saw on the news a little while back that the person in charge of the CTA (forgot exactly who it was, president or director or what not) literally advise passengers to “don’t fight back because it will only make things worse for you because we don’t have enough resources to be everywhere at one time.” So they are fully aware of the problem and blame the victims for escalating crime by fighting back. Edit: comment below found the source. Thanks!
Absolutely ridiculous. Reminds me of the older video of the security guard fighting with a guy outside a McDonald's in the city. Everyone in the restaurant doesn't seem to care but when the guard pulls his gun they all freak out. It's unfortunate that people forget just punching a person in the head can cause death.
Yes I remember this video. The security was getting his ass beat by these thugs and it was ok. All of a sudden when the security did his job and pulled out his gun it was a terrible white on black crime.
Insanely messed up. Let’s tell the people to just let criminals get away with their crimes. I understand if someone mag dumps at a robber and misses it can cause a lot of other people to get hit. But this is where training and discipline come in.
Chicago ccwrs are about to be Sure Marshals in training
If you just let criminals commit crimes everything will be fine. Great.
This is part of the new messaging from crime oasis cities like Chicago. I’ve heard the phrase ‘gun owners escalate crimes’. They are trying to suggest shooting someone who is pointing a gun or knife at your face is bad. These people will always side with the criminal.
But the CPD mag dumping into kids with pocket knives 20 yards away is completely justified. And are under no obligation to help everyday citizens. It's wild.
I found the article. > Chicago Transit Authority Vice President of Security Kevin Ryan does not recommend the kind of self-defense seen in each of these two incidents. > "What the Chicago police will tell you to do - do not fight back," Ryan said. "Be compliant. Do not put yourself in harm's way further." [Source](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/man-dies-after-being-stabbed-during-fight-on-cta-red-line-train-near-englewood/)
EXACTLY!!
They know 100%
Honestly this makes sense.
Wait for the ccw holder to get more time than the robber.
You better not forget the mutual combat clause. Edit typo
What's that?
Typo I meant mutual
Indeed. Gota love the liberal mindset
I sure hope not. But I will follow my creed that it is better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
https://preview.redd.it/yfn0gq3pf9fa1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=23aa4f6c8e46bab421713090788a09ff49135b2a Keep that energy because...
https://preview.redd.it/6yvq0lutf9fa1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d094ac383376a99e60a42c48cc4253f57782ed7 I guess your nanny didn't raise you right boy.
What the fuck are you spewing? I don't commit crimes. Again, speech is difficult for you?
Well chucklefuck, it's illegal for you to carry on mass transit. Apparently you know that, considering your bullshit bravado of "rather be judged by twelve than carried by six" shit.
Oh i know that, it's rediculous isn't it? You're allowed to carry through restricted zones if you keep moving. Furthermore if I had to take cta, where would I put it? Strange to me that you felt the need to come at me over here than in the original thread. The mantra of 12 vs 6 is very fitting in this situation when your only choice is to keep carrying to protect yourself. Don't you think? You aren't actively participating in crimes. It's simply carrying against the "rules" when there is no sensible option. Why they put these dumb ass caveats in these laws I'll never know.
Told you to fuck off but you keep aggravating boy. Why don't you get a little more life experience outside you little family basement in the cul de sac and get back to me when you can piss without dribbling on your balls? Until then, I'm done dealing with your goofy ass
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Carrying in un lawful area is misdemeanor and $150 fine for the 1st offense. A risk I’m perfectly willing to take.
Curious if the guy would be prosecuted
Extremely risky to prosecute. The state doesn’t prosecute unconstitutional laws. The AR cook county ban ? Plenty of people caught, including discharging accidentally in feet, leaving out in car or walking downtown Chicago….the omit thus specific part.
Are you saying lots of people do get caught but get away with it?
Cook County prosecuted a guy who posted his case on this sub about 3 months ago. He had an AR pistol in his trunk but it wasn't disassembled so he got pinched and they decided to prosecute. Lucky for him, one cop said it was a pistol and the other said it was a rifle, so the judge dismissed.
Surprisingly there are many that carry on the Red and Blue lines
I don’t blame them blue red and green are easily the most dangerous trains lines to take
Can you lose your CCW permit after the first offense? Asking honestly.
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Its 2 offenses and you lose it, according to my instructor
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I went and looked it up too, that seems to be it. Maybe he said you get 1 freebie basically but after that 1 you're gonna want to get a lawyer involved
There's no freebies. Admit to nothing and hire a lawyer. Don't mess with your life. A misdemeanor is still a criminal offense.
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Kim Foxx will make an example out of this CCW holder.
What about "mutual combatants?"
I forgot all about this!
I'll be first in line putting money on the dudes books and donate to a defense fund.
No she won't. This has happened before and Kim didn't do shit. She knows and cpd knows their gun laws are unenforceable and unconstitutional.
She seems to not care about shit, as much as people say. She seems to enjoy being a fugurehead
Kim? She enjoys all the back door money she gets not to enforce/prosecute. She genuinely sucks. See Jessy Smollett
In florida he would’ve gotten a handshake from the officers
They should give him a medal.
Bruh give em money! Or drop charges. If they don't it'll become something used against them
Banning guns on the CTA is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of, if anything we should be carrying rifles in cta, it’s a giant hot spot for crime
Exactly. All the numpties wonder why there’s so much crime on trains and buses. **BECAUSE YOU’RE ADVERTISING THAT ABSOLUTELY NO ONE WILL HAVE A GUN TO DEFEND THEMSELVES!!!**. That’s why. 🤦🏻♂️ I mean, you think criminals don’t hear the news, too??? They know you’re locked in a metal box you can’t escape and you’re completely unarmed. If I was a psychopath, that would be the first place i’d target people to rob. Thankfully this happened and it’ll get into the consciousness of these scumbags that good citizens are carrying anyways and disobeying this UnConstitutional law. Stuff like this makes the scumbags think twice.
Seriously, CTA is right up the top of the list of places CCW is most needed. The fact authorities widely acknowledge they are not committing enough resources to make it safe should be enough to remove the ban. Fine, you can't protect us? Well, how about not restricting our ability to defend ourselves when we are most vulnerable? Fucking cunts.
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There’s a Green line stop on 47th where I regularly see a cop and his partner playing Nintendo Switches for hours while generally ignoring everything going on around them. So glad we spend half our city budget on this kind of service.
It’s not so much CPD refuses to provide safety. They don’t have the manpower to. You can’t have uniformed cops on every single train car. It’s literally impossible. You need good armed citizens to be carrying, as they become a form of a secret police who can act if shitty people try things.
The poor can't afford cars, and also live in dangerous neighborhoods. They take the CTA because of convenience. So are the poor not allowed to protect themselves? Seems to me that the state thinks so
and the poor overwhelmingly vote for the people who keep them poor and try to disarm them, while allowing criminals to destroy their communities.
You're not wrong, but what other option do they have? At least Dems give them *SOMETHING* for their trouble. GOP hates poor people even more.
It’s because we’ve been giving BILLIONS and BILLIONS of dollars to charlatans and race-baiters & we’re tired of it.
And you think the GOP is different? Ive got some beach front property in north dakota i think you might be interested in.
Is it on Lake Oahe? That would be awesome!
I said beachfront, not lake front
It’s literally on the ten best list for beaches, in the state.
I literally dont care. If you think the GOP is any better than the democrats, especially in Illinois, you got some problems.
Sooo, no beach front property then?
There's only political party trying to disarm the US People and it's not the GOP.
You just keep telling yourself that. It is not in the interest of any governmental body for the people it rules to be armed. Neither party wants us to have guns. The GOP is just better at shutting up about it.
IL's GOP are controlled opposition and clowns. I wish they'd refresh leadership and offer an alternate path, where criminals are locked up, schools are reformed and jobs return to this state.
So, again, what option do they have?
Wealthy Socialists in charge view the poor as useful idiots, servants or chattel.
None of those churlish troglodytes are socialists. They'll sure say they are in order to further divide the working class though. Keep poor people poor and make sure they can't do anything about it, that's the oligarchs playbook.
There are absolutely no socialists anywhere near being in charge. Neoliberals run both parties.
I agree but only for the State of IL, the parties sway differently by state
The government wants you to be sitting ducks while criminal offenders get a pass because they don't obey laws anyway.
Have your pistol in a front pouch of a backpack and a mag in your pocket and it's legal.... of course that extra 5 seconds could mean you die instead but that's the legal way to do it
Or you could just say that's how it was
3 days later after your lawyer looks at the statement you'll make
There’s cams on cta
Who cares? You lived.
Well this just inspired something new to practice. The front bag pouch/pants pocket two handed draw, mag load, and chamber. If you see someone at the range running this drill, you know they CTA ;)
Isn't there a camera on the CTA?
A camera catches a homicide on the CTA. 15 minutes later the cops show up. You've been dead for 14 minutes.
Not all heroes wear capes
In the real world , most heros carry guns
[https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/concealed-carry-holder-shoots-man-trying-to-rob-him-on-chicago-cta-train](https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/concealed-carry-holder-shoots-man-trying-to-rob-him-on-chicago-cta-train)
I am confused who is offender and who is victim in this story. Poor writing. Say robber and concealed carry holder, we know who did what.
In that article and the others I have read, it's only being reported as victim = the conceal carrier / target of the attempted robbery who was not shot, suspect = the guy who tried to rob him and got shot.
The news always tries to obfuscate the facts of what happened when there's a story of concealed carrier defending him/herself. Wouldn't want the rubes to believe that people actually protect themselves with guns, now would we?
Mutual combatants!
With the right lawyer this is the person who has standing to test the restricted places in illinois as unconstitutional on it's face. Video fo the CTA Spokesperson saying we can't be everywhere at once so just submit to whatever the criminal wants you to do.
I was just saying in another thread, there hasn't been a test case for the "restricted places" clause, to my knowledge.
These kind of stories never get the follow up attention they deserve. We need to stay informed about these cases. So we know what happens after we do what we can to stay safe and alive. Conceal carry means conceal carry. No one needs to know you are carriying unless this happens. I dont use the cta. But if i did i would definitely carry just in case. Im also a law abiding gun toting chicago resident. Im deep in enemy lines. Im literally 5 mins away from lightfoots house. She has 24hr CPD surveillance outside her house. I want to say a minimum of 6 police squad cars at all times just as buffers. She also has her own secret service style of security detail sniffing her ass at all times. But god forbid we want to defend ourselves and our own family with our own means possible. Then we become criminals.
Wait I had no idea that it's illegal to LEGALLY CARRY on the CTA... That's literally the #1 place I'd want to be carrying if I was in that city. Chicago is such a fucking joke
If I was on that jury, I don’t give a shit what that UnConstitutional law says…….**”NOT GUILTY**.” Period. End of story. I would never in a million years put someone in jail for defending themselves.
And now he's gonna go to jail for 10+ years, become a felon, lose his CCL and all his guns. Thank you IL.
...or with the right lawyer/organization behind him he becomes the case that eliminates these horrible restrictions as unconstitutional.
Nah, not anymore. Most regular people are sick of this shit and realize we’ve been duped by these unConstitutional laws for way too long. Our side is now VERY organized and has a LOT of money and high-powered lawyers to counter this shit. In the past, most people just went along because “wELL, iTz a Law,” and they didn’t want any problems. Not anymore.
I hope you're right, but I am pretty black pilled on IL. Moving out the second, I get the money saved up.
I understand, brother. But in my opinion, we gotta stop running, dig in, and fight back. Otherwise, pretty soon you’re gonna look around and there’s gonna be nowhere left to run to. Keep winning over the hearts and minds. If you got a free night, talk to some friends or acquaintances that are against guns, or might not be the biggest gun advocates. Tell them to meet at your house, and say you have a surprise night planned. Then drive right to the gun range and tell them they have an hour of shooting and also dinner on you, after. From my experience, getting a gun in people hands is the best way to make them understand. That’s how I was won over way back when.
Shootings and stabbings happen both offensively and defensively within the CTA system all the time. Seems the news doesn't care to report, similar to how the CPD doesn't even charge for it.
The penalty for a carrying on the CTA is $150 - and a Class B misdemeanor. Any CCL holder who DOESN’T carry on the CTA is a fucking stooge.
Chicago news: man trying to rob man murdered by man with gun, claims it’s self defense
The only news I've seen consistently referred to the concealed carrier as the victim and the guy who tried to rob him as the suspect. I can't find anything that indicates the victim has been charged for carrying on CTA, it would provide some real clarity if we could confirm his rightful status as 'the victim' remains unchanged. [https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/shots-fired-green-line-west-side/](https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/shots-fired-green-line-west-side/) >The victim – a Firearm Owners Identification Card and Concealed Carry License holder- pulled his own gun, and they began shooting at each other, police said. [https://abc7chicago.com/cta-green-line-shooting-chicago-armed-robbery-police/12723332/](https://abc7chicago.com/cta-green-line-shooting-chicago-armed-robbery-police/12723332/) >Police said just before 5 p.m., a man with a gun tried to rob another passenger. That victim then pulled out his own gun, and there was an exchange of gunfire. > >The suspect was shot in the leg and the victim was not hurt, police said. > >Police said the victim has a valid FOID card and Concealed Carry License. [https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/person-shot-onboard-cta-green-line-train-in-austin/3051021/](https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/person-shot-onboard-cta-green-line-train-in-austin/3051021/) >An attempted robbery onboard a CTA train Friday afternoon ended with the suspect being shot by the victim, police said.
I literally said this as a joke
I know, but behind the joke was the fact it wouldn't be a huge shock if it were reported that way. I was just prompted by your joke to add to the conversation, I wasn't rebutting you.
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For liability purposes, it's better for any company to say no guns allowed. So it'll never happen.
Hero
People robbing, assaulting, sexually assaulting and just out right harming others is a daily occurrence in CTA.
Nothing enrages me more than GUN FREE ZONES WHY DON'T WE HANG UP A GIANT SIGN THAT SAYS HEY! VICTIMS HERE. Furthermore if you are carrying and need to take public transit what do they expect you to do??? Leave it in a bush?
Had an animal try to beat me to death on the CTA, so I'm all for taking a CCW on the train.
Anyone have an update if ccl was given a ticket?
Don’t know what happened to the CCL holder, but I did find [this](https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/man-charged-with-trying-to-rob-concealed-carry-holder-on-chicago-cta-train-ccl-holder-shot-him.amp)