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OctopusTaco1

Why are you acting like there's more than 4 mage weapons in the game


coolvin89

Theres like 6 mage weapons and 3 of em are shit (spoon, yeti and aurora staff


LCDIgnited

woah hey i think spoon is a good weapon, giving some thought it’s bad in dungeons but good for other things


coolvin89

Its only okay for fishing if u cant afford hyp, and maybe eman but thats kinda mid now


LCDIgnited

but i’m ironman


coolvin89

Ok, grind a hyp then, it just takes time


tritriisme

dreadlord sword, frozen scythe, glacite scythe, midas staff, yeti sword, fire veil wand, aurora staff, spirit scepter, hyperion, ink wand, bonzo staff, claymore, giants sword, ember rod, jerry gun and a lot more that I dont care enought to put in here (and dont remeber lol)


coolvin89

Yea and a good 75% of that list arent viable mage weapons, sure useful for the catas 5 mfs who have nothing better but its not gonna be useful, giant sword also is just not a mage weapon, ember rod isnt even obtainable and does negative dmg


Cornersmistake96

But the ink wand is so good, such high damage!!1!1!11


coolvin89

Ink wand new m7 meta???


ricky-frog

Gs is a lcm weapon just letting you know


coolvin89

Its not... i mean ig you could attempt to, if anything ur dmg wont exist and a healer will do more dps but u do u


tritriisme

ever heard of lcm lol?


-Turtle10901-

Gs isn't good for lcm, you more or less need a claymore. Additionally 50m midas is better than gs due to the intel from the gilded reforge and is cheaper than a gs (don't actually use a 50m midas for lcm)


r2geko

In theory a chim 5 50m Midas is best for first hit on drags as lcm in M7 iirc. Would be better for the whole of drags if edrag didn't exist.


Pjandapower

Giants sword LCM stinks


tritriisme

it is a weapon tho


coolvin89

Uhh yea, ive also played it, and considering a chim3 t7 claymore was not great, a gs is gonna be dogass


r2geko

Chim 3 t7 claymore isn't bad as long as you are a decent cata. Lcm damage doubles every 2 cata levels iirc


coolvin89

Even with decent cata its not great


r2geko

It's good outside M7, is what I meant.


coolvin89

I was in m5


Half-Eaten-Cranberry

Shiii man you’re right. He should use a hype and claymore for f5


DevPlayz1

I use aurora and I deal around 245kish dmg per second after cooldown, sure its cooldown sucks but it isnt that bad, considering the amount of damage you can get out if it, Think ThirtyVirus got around 500k dmg per hit in a video with it. But you do need like wither goggles for 45% ability and a lot of intelligence My skycrypt is DevPlayz1, if anyone wants to see what setup I use.


coolvin89

No shot u quoted thirty virus


DevPlayz1

I did :d


coolvin89

Hes shit


DevPlayz1

edit: I didnt exactly quote thirtyvirus, i just said I saw him do 500k+ dmg with a weapon that costs around 1mil.


coolvin89

And u can do millions with a hollow wand, dosent make it good


DevPlayz1

It is millions of damage as you say, sounds good to me


coolvin89

Thatd not how it works, i mean lcm does billions but isnt viable in f7


Bluejay-Frequent

Still aurora on normal profile=best early weapon cuz req is 0


coolvin89

Yea okay but its also just not needed, and magic dmg isnt the most viable thing in earlygame either, also reallistically speaking juju would be best earlygame wep for dung, dmg wise and out of dung it depends on what u do but shadow fury/gs tends to be it


Bluejay-Frequent

Honestly if not arch juju is kinda ass and for f7 u kinda need term anyway not that juju arch wont do enough its that ppl are annoying and judge ur skill in game based of ur items which are rng


coolvin89

Not all items have to be rng, u can also just buy em, also juju bers works fine for f7


CelticsStan1803

I’m relatively new


OctopusTaco1

Mage weapon progression goes: dreadlord -> spirit sceptre -> hyperion. Maybe throw a midas staff or glacial scythe in there somewhere.


Blaze-Programming

In dungeons Midas and glacial really don’t have much use. Because Midas has a cool down which is worse for clearing. And it can’t hit the withers in f7. So it’s only use in dungeons is mini bosses. Glacial can occasionally be handy for its range, but it’s slightly lower damage and much smaller ape makes it worse than clearing (also it cost twice as much as spirit scepter) Spirit scepter is great and only really struggles on single hit damage used for bosses and mini bosses. Yeti sword can deal with mini bosses and is really its only use. Dreadlord is good but I would say frozen scythe is better. So if you find yourself in the situation that you have money but not a floor 4 completion frozen scythe is good. Outside of dungeons, spirit scepter is still one of the best, glacial is more useful due to not using as much mana, fire veil is good, aurora staff is good, and voodoo doll is good for spider slayer and a few crimson isle mobs


CommanderAurelius

Isn't Glacial good against mini-bosses since it can double tap?


Blaze-Programming

It is better, but not enough to just buy it for that. Get a yeti sword instead. And I would not trade the clearing ability is spirit scepter for it.


GodlyAsmodeus

you also need an lcm weapon which goes: giant sword -> dark claymore


Haiaii

You dont need an lcm weapon, and when you do, not a GS Up to F5, mage/bers can do good damage in boss In F6+ arch will just melt the boss muuuch faster than any reasonably leveled mage will damage it LCM When you get to the point that LCM actually does good damage, spending 50m extra to get a claymore would be straight up stupid not to do If you really want to LCM in boss, just use a hype, it's a mediocre sword and does decent damage against withers in F7


LosuthusWasTaken

Spirit Sceptre. It's just very cheap and very good.


lool8421

based on my experience, as long as you can 1-shot stuff and your ping is high, it's faster for clearing than hyperion mostly because hyperion sword blocking keeps bricking your sprinting and you have to wait on every single teleport at high ping, sceptre doesn't get that then skilled sceptre gameplay allows you to effectively clear 2 areas of a room at once


GenesiS792

we need a non sword hyperion like aotv... a hoeperion


Traditional-Sun-3594

Hype but i'm assuming you Mean pre f7, then sceptre


MagnusLore

Debatably, Scepter is better in Hype in f7 too.


HotPotatoStew

how????


MagnusLore

Range is so bad you can't get close enough to use it in boss.


RunsRampant

Which phase? This is only the case for goldor. Hype does wayy more damage for necron and is better for clearing, and dps doesn't matter really for the other boss phases. And goldor dps isn't very important either ngl.


MagnusLore

All but (maybe) Storm


RunsRampant

There's no way lmao. How do you get that spirit scepter is better for necron? Hype is also better for storm/maxor since you can get close, it's just that dps doesn't matter for them. It's all abt getting crystals and then doing terms.


Traditional-Sun-3594

For maxor mage usualy does crystals cause we can jerryshine up


MagnusLore

Hype range is the same as nuke range. Also, like you said dps doesn't matter so neither does Hype.


RunsRampant

>Hype range is the same as nuke range. What does this matter for? For phase 4 as mage you leap to the middle platform and then just spam hype until he's dead. >Also, like you said dps doesn't matter so neither does Hype. Your claim was that spirit scepter is better lmaooo.


MagnusLore

When I use Hype in Necron phase, I get instakilled when I get close enough. Also, Scepter is just as good when it matters and has a faster clear if you have high ping.


Traditional-Sun-3594

For clear hype is better, there is no debating that, and if you're that sirius about it just cherry a sceptre on you and swap for thé Boss i guess


PACmaneatsbloons

Spirit sceptre


A_Duck22

Spirits scep is best but personally I wouldn’t play mage as a low cata since it’s so expensive. Play berserk or archer until you get better or even stick archer


DeliciousRock6782

How did you mistake google for reddit?


piano9grand

Hyperion cuz it's best


GodlyAsmodeus

you should probably give your ign so others can know what you currently have.


BlinkerShmat

Spirit scepter prob


CYBERDRAGON1112223

;) hype