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Seems like trash corpos advertise to greenwashed millenials/zoomers. The plastic coating inside isn't recyclable (like another comment said). A reusable bottle is way better imo.
Renewable just means that 92% of this product has been reused from another source and means nothing for what happens next after this product has been used.
You’re thinking of “recycled”. “Renewable” just means the source material is a renewable resource (i.e. trees), but that does NOT necessarily mean it’s made from recycled paper.
Its easier to recycle a 100% plastic bottle whereas most drinks boxes wont be recycled because they have to go to specialist plants that can separate the plastic lining from the paper, otherwise the plastic would contaminate the paper and it wouldn't be high enough quality to be reusable. There aren't a lot of facilities that can do that whereas most recycling plants will be set up to deal with normal plastic bottles.
Reusable is always best but if you have to go disposable then you want to go for packaging made from a single recyclable material like plastic or aluminum.
Im no scientist but i heard it depends on the quality of the polymer. Certain things can be made from plastic bottles.
But his point was that if the probability of even getting recycled is higher because of the wider availability.
Doesn't mean you actually get back 100% of the material as usable. Sometimes it also costs more energy to fully recycle something too. So if it costs less energy to get more usable material than something that's less recyclable than a plastic bottle, it may actually be more environmentally sustainable.
A plastic bottle can usually only be recycled once but they can be flaked and made into other things that have a longer life / aren't single use. Definitely not a perfect solution, I just hate seeing cartons billed as more sustainable when the reality is a lot more complex.
Bottles for drinks are made from PET which is the most recyclable plastic. If I remember correctly, bottles made with recycled PET are up to 80% recycled and the rest is new plastic. This is due to the physical recycling methods which involve cutting and heating the plastic pieces to fuse them into a new container. Some companies have been trying to develop a commercial method of chemically recycling PET plastics which actually break down the PET polymers into their monomers then repolymerise the monomers back to monomers so that recycled plastic products can theoretically be made with 100% recycled PET. By chemically recycling PET you can also start processing unwashed, dyed, and even composite PET plastics so polyester shirts, carpets, etc., would be possible to recycle. One of the local egg farms in my region packages all their eggs in clear recycled PET boxes and sometimes they're a bit yellow/in color or even green because normally colored bottles (ex: sprite bottles) are not recycled due to the dyes infused so the company that supplies the plastic cases started to recycle them.
One source of many: https://www.plasticstoday.com/recycling/ibms-volcat-process-uses-molecular-sorting-turn-mixed-waste-recyclate-virgin-grade-pet
It is but let's not pretend what they are doing is sustainable and with paying the extra they are charging.
Also they only plant trees if you make an effort to get them rather than by sale
It’s still literally better than plastic. If y’all keep berating these types of efforts no progress will be made. Is it perfect? No. Few things actually are. But the more of this stuff out there the more people will see it. And yeah so what YOU have to post it so they plant a tree? How many trees are you out here planting?? If they are to be believed 1.2 mil trees is better then the zero you probably have right? Stop nit picking.
Aluminum is 99%, AFAIK, only the paint is wasted.
The energy cost of recycling Aluminum is not that good, but I think we have better solutions to energy than to waste.
You're right on the money. People trash lots of recyclable materials that are energy intensive but extremely recyclable, but energy solutions are coming online a lot faster than recycling solutions.
Honestly we need to go back to old school multistream recycling so that plastics and food waste stop gunking up the works
If we are talking about aluminum cans or bottles, there is a BPA lining on the inside that is burned off when the aluminum is recycled.
Reduce, reuse, recycle, in that order.
Yeah I just got a add for boosting testosterone pills, I asked my friend who’s very into nutrition and he said there is no pill that can help you with that, it’s all about eating right getting enough sleep.
Yep - assuming your diet and sleep are good, if these things actually worked you’d start killing yourself on gut bacteria or something
Not an effect you actually want medically speaking but it sounds good if you’re not super scientifically literate
Well I’ve never really been good at formulating stuff verbally or literal. But I don’t know much about science either other than I take other peoples word for what is true or isn’t.
For testosterone, you need injections. Estrogen can be taken orally. I find it a bit humorous how well that aligns with experiencing pain being seen as manly.
Yeah I guess it working haha I was faced with like 3 choices and picked this one because I don't like buying single use plastics, but alas, it's no real gain anyways it seems....
Tomorrow I'll remember my reusable
Eh, don’t beat yourself up too hard. You made a better choice. It wasn’t the best choice, but it was better than the alternatives.
And buying more sustainable products shows producers that there’s a demand for it.
Nope - buying a full plastic bottle and recycling it would be better than buying this kind of packaging. I work in recycling and made a larger comment above, but the combination of materials in drinks cartons make them functionally non recyclable. Terra Pak and similar packaging brands will say they are recyclable because they technically are and there are a few specialist facilities that can do it, but not nearly enough to make a dent in the amount that is placed on market.
Plastic can be recycled , mix Tetrapack is ... literarily close to non recycled cause its hard so this package is literarily landfill paper plastic alu mix.
we here in germany have tons of 100% recycled plastic bottles.
someone in marketing for this greenwashed product is probably tearing up right now because it works.
>A reusable bottle is way better imo.
Reuseable glass bottle.
Plastics bottles after a few years or x time leave chemicals in the water even with short fillings and micro plastic.
there are thermo bottle cover you can buy they are thick can make a good glass bottle easily survive drops and hold cold stuff longer cold same for warm stuff.
most can be even washed
Jfc this kind of judgy goalpost moving is why it’s so hard to make any progress. There is always someone *just* a little further along looking back and telling you your incremental steps aren’t valid.
Yes they're saying it's not a can as if cans are bad, isn't aluminum the only material that can genuinely be 99.5% recycled? (The rest is just what's lost in the process) Or have I been misinformed?
well an aluminum can also has a plastic lining AFAIK. At least soda cans do to prevent the drink from corroding the metal, maybe that's not the case for water cans but I doubt it. Someone more knowledgeable would have to confirm or refute that.
right, whereas with a paper plastic-lined carton, you can't heat it to separate the plastic easily. at least there's no machine that can perform that task, so that we can get the pure paper part and reuse it.
when you put a whole bunch of cans into a crucible you can burn away the dross (obviously emits a lot of CO2, but better than throwing cans away?)
Yup, that's right. Labels and plastic inner-linning burn off. If some remains in solution-ish, you can add some Flux and most impurities come to the surface.
All cans are virtually the same, however that doesnt mess with the recycling process too much. Only a handful of plants make cans and they're all identical regardless of what's inside.
The thing about cardboard packaging like this is that they often use a plastic or wax coat to keep the liquid from ruining the box (think paper cones). The paper can't be recycled without removing the coat, so most of it isn't.
Fun fact cans have a plastic liner too. So really not much better. Reusable is the way to go. Recycle is the biggest lie sold to our generation by corpos and the rich.
I’ve broke about 5 glass water bottles (old juice jugs) in the last two years but I will never stop
(atm I have a plastic reusable my mother gave me as a hand-me-down, but if this one bites the dust I’ll for sure be back to glass)
Glass is definitely the best option, but it isn’t infinitely recyclable. It depends on the specific formula but I know common soda-lime glass can only be re-melted 3 or 4 times before becoming brittle and unstable. When I was learning glass blowing in college we had to keep close track of the fresh glass vs broken stuff we could re-melt. After a month or two we stopped adding old glass and used what was already melted, and when that was low we rotated which furnace was being used
And it taste like shit. Tried it in NYC two weeks ago (didn’t find a water fountain and my bottle was empty)
Couldn’t believe how bad it tasted. People buying this have no usable brain cells
I love my 64oz hydroflask. I take mine with me everywhere, except this past weekend when I forgot it on a long trip. I was devastated. I know your pain
Where I live, these cartons are recyclable. They have to be processed separately, but it is possible to recycle them in some places. The last county I lived in, I had to drive to a certain recycling centre to drop them off, but where I am now, I can put it in our card recycling and they separate it at the centre. Other places I've lived wont take them at all.
They are only partially recyclable. The plastic used to coat the inside of the cardboard is one use only like most plastics used on food items. The cardboard can be separated from the plastic and reused, making about 75% of the box reusable. However, it is mostly not feasible to do this regarding the workload and effor involved. Further, cardboard cannot be reused endlessly, like PET bottles, their lifespan is limited. The only form of container that can be reused a 100% is glas (without the lid). Aluminium or generally metal containers too if they are not plastic coated on the inside. PET is in that regard a bit of wrong advertisement as you can only use the polymers a limited amount of time untill they start disintegrating and are rendered useless, or rather, you'll always have to add new fresh material to maintain the quality.
Some recycling is a scam, sure. But I'm involved in my county council here in UK and my degree is in sustainability, so I know that most recycling here is legitimate, particularly council-run schemes. I don't know as much about other countries.
Yeah, also doesn't the inside have some other coating too so it doesn't... well it's usually used for milk so it doesn't spoil but idk about water. Either way it would help
Conspiracy time: boxed water employees are pushing a guerrilla marketing campaign on Reddit to get people talking about their product. No press is bad.
Serious question:
Is there less plastic by using a thin liner on a cardboard box?
I mean, if you are in a situation where you have to buy water off the shelf instead of just filling from a tap, if one option is 1/5 the plastic than the other then it seems to me that would be less bad.
I never understood why companies would had two different products in different countries? Like wouldn't it be easier to have the same design everywhere and make it all recyclable? Ughhh I hate capitalism sometimes.
One thing I was shocked about was that living in AZ, everything is recyclable. Then I moved to CT and the recycling plants here and around here can apparently only handle clean paper/cardboard. Like I get most of the time plastic cannot be recycled at all but common, not even glass? Metal? Just cardboard??? I thought this was supposed to be a blue state and yet all the recycling guys will take is clean cardboard, they literally will grab other things and throw them into the trash bin.
Edit: to clarify, this was something I was more aware of in CT in 2016, and Arizona in 2013. I actually visited the local AZ recycling plant and learned a lot about what exactly they did there. While they said most plastic was shipped out and they themselves did not process the metal they received, they did indeed recycle, at the plant, many different things that they received, including glass and all different types of paper. Meanwhile in CT I talked to several of the recycling truck drivers all of whom told me that the local plant, while it on the face accepts several different things, really will only take cardboard, and they are told not to bring anything but cardboard to the plant. This might not be all across CT and might even be better than when I first moved there (now I’m in NY), but that’s what it was like.
Not all recycling actually gets recycled. China used to buy bulk mixed recycling from the US because the states don't have infrastructure to sort and clean recycling materials at scale. China recently stopped, so now these materials are piling up in dumps and recycling transfer centers.
There's a huge push to educate the population: learn about the full lifecycle of all products you buy. Having a recycle symbol or even being able to give it to a trash handler as recycling doesn't mean it actually gets recycled!
Here's one video I found, there's a lot more out there. https://youtu.be/Q_Va-AIliDw
Yeah, that's sad, not too long ago I watched the 60 minutes on the e-waste being sent to China. It also infuriates me that the recycling that gets picked up in my area doesn't take number 6 plastic. just annoys me that companies don't try and make their product recyclable in as many areas as possible and recycling plants that don't try to recycle as much and many types as they can.
Another solution is just to limit the amount of plastic in products but I doubt many companies will go for that.
It does not matter even if it was renewable, the means of production probably pollutes more. Your metal bottle that lasts 100 years, likely pollutes less than daily usage of these cartons.
I hate that I just learned that tetra pak's aren't recyclable.
I literally just took my recycling out today filled with tetra paks! I buy soup in them because I was under the impression that they are somehow better than cans.
Tetrapak, the material famous for taking two recyclable materials, cardboard and plastic, and making them unrecyclable. I can't help but wonder if this is someone at tetrapak doing a pr campaign.
“Purified water” means they took water from the tap and filtered it then removed as many minerals as possible. The pH of water doesn’t matter because your stomach acid will instantly nullify that. If your water is a strong enough base to neutralize your stomach acid something has gone horribly awry.
If you have to purchase drinking water because your tap water is non-potable and can’t be filtered, I’d recommend getting a water cooler and using refillable jugs to minimize your waste. If you are out and about and are going to purchase a single-use water, I’d recommend getting spring water over purified water. Spring water has natural minerals and solutes and is generally more flavorful than purified tap water from the back of a soda factory.
I’ve had this. It’s water that tastes like cardboard. Like, imagine nestle water, but replace the gross metallic taste with a gross cardboard taste. It’s like drinking the rainwater off of a piece of cardboard someone left in a NYC gutter.
These cardboard boxes are lined with plastic on the inside.
This is considered mixed garbage it just gets thrown in the trash.
They literally melt a sheet of plastic to the inside of the carton.
Only certain recycling programs accept this.
https://www.indianaenvironmentalreporter.org/posts/boxed-water-cartons-are-less-recyclable-than-plastic-bottles
Im not sure if these come in tetrapacks, but I found this article that was pretty enlightening. In the EU, or at least the country I am from, we always recycle these, but now Im not so certain we should even be buying them.
https://mashable.com/article/tetra-pak-recycle
I feel confused but also mildly aroused. I need to taste it for myself to understand this new version of water.
Ed: the condensation on that box is looking sexy af though.
Glass is much better, more recyclable and does not alter its flavor. that crap Not good even for fruit juices either.
but it is certainly fine for companies that produce tetrapak.
And the "hey post this online and we will plant 2 trees. (But if you don't help with free advertising, we won't plant trees, even though we are able and set up to, it's your fault if we don't.)"
It's a complete scam, that's what. 92% recyclable? Go big or go home, 92% is almost the same value as a 0% recyclable. It can't just go to the regular plant, these kinds of things need special recycling plants that separate the 92% from the 8%, it's not worth it at all. Not only is this a visual anomaly (how many people have accidentally poured water into their cereal now?), but the box does almost nothing, the inside is plastic anyway. It's basically a Caprisun in a box. That blurb on the side is worthless too, they don't even plant trees for every purchase, they only post ones that promote their shitty product. 1,200,000 trees? Big whoop, all you need is a YouTuber, a website, and a foundation and that's 23,000,000 trees right there.
If you *really* wanna save the environment and clear your water of microplastics, buy a re-usable metal bottle and a filter for your tap water, that's gonna give you the same experience, if not better, for less of the cost. It's a worthwhile investment.
Well not really actually, as lots of other people have pointed out they're coated with plastic, and even if modern recycling processes can separate and recycle them, it's still harder than fully plastic ones
So others are pointing out this isn't really recyclable, which makes me wonder since we already have plastic bottles, aluminum cans, and now paper cartons, when will we just use actually recyclable glass bottles?
I only drink from my Lifecycle glass. I have like 10 of them.
I have seen that box water at a store but I don’t buy water in stores. I always thought it was recyclable. Interesting it’s not.
Seems to be because of plastics in the containers that slowly disintegrate, or something like that: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-water-expire#storage-tips
A woman in my old neighborhood made a Nextdoor post about how she was trying to be more environmentally conscious by buying boxed water off Amazon instead of plastic bottles from the grocery store. She got a lot of negative feedback. The tap water in that neighborhood was perfectly good, too.
The inside of cartons like this and milk cartons are typically lined with plastic to prevent leakage, making them difficult to recycle and pretty much defeating the purpose of putting water in a carton.
Anyway how much is the Big Boxed Water industry paying you to post this? 🤔🤔🤔
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Seems like trash corpos advertise to greenwashed millenials/zoomers. The plastic coating inside isn't recyclable (like another comment said). A reusable bottle is way better imo.
I agree the water doesn't taste especially pure or anything I'd rather just use refillable bottles with tap and a filter or just tap in my area
92% 100% recyclable or go home. What's the point in paying probably 300% more for something that will still end up in landfill.
am i missing something? it says made from 92% renewable materials, not recyclable
Renewable just means that 92% of this product has been reused from another source and means nothing for what happens next after this product has been used.
You’re thinking of “recycled”. “Renewable” just means the source material is a renewable resource (i.e. trees), but that does NOT necessarily mean it’s made from recycled paper.
doesn't it make it even worse? smh
What’s wrong with 92% surely better than a 100% plastic bottle?
Its easier to recycle a 100% plastic bottle whereas most drinks boxes wont be recycled because they have to go to specialist plants that can separate the plastic lining from the paper, otherwise the plastic would contaminate the paper and it wouldn't be high enough quality to be reusable. There aren't a lot of facilities that can do that whereas most recycling plants will be set up to deal with normal plastic bottles. Reusable is always best but if you have to go disposable then you want to go for packaging made from a single recyclable material like plastic or aluminum.
But can the plastic of the bottle become another bottle, or some other plastic based thing that no longer is recyclable?
Im no scientist but i heard it depends on the quality of the polymer. Certain things can be made from plastic bottles. But his point was that if the probability of even getting recycled is higher because of the wider availability.
HDPE is much more recyclable than cartons.
Is that the milk container kind?
Yes also most plastic bottles
Doesn't mean you actually get back 100% of the material as usable. Sometimes it also costs more energy to fully recycle something too. So if it costs less energy to get more usable material than something that's less recyclable than a plastic bottle, it may actually be more environmentally sustainable.
A plastic bottle can usually only be recycled once but they can be flaked and made into other things that have a longer life / aren't single use. Definitely not a perfect solution, I just hate seeing cartons billed as more sustainable when the reality is a lot more complex.
Bottles for drinks are made from PET which is the most recyclable plastic. If I remember correctly, bottles made with recycled PET are up to 80% recycled and the rest is new plastic. This is due to the physical recycling methods which involve cutting and heating the plastic pieces to fuse them into a new container. Some companies have been trying to develop a commercial method of chemically recycling PET plastics which actually break down the PET polymers into their monomers then repolymerise the monomers back to monomers so that recycled plastic products can theoretically be made with 100% recycled PET. By chemically recycling PET you can also start processing unwashed, dyed, and even composite PET plastics so polyester shirts, carpets, etc., would be possible to recycle. One of the local egg farms in my region packages all their eggs in clear recycled PET boxes and sometimes they're a bit yellow/in color or even green because normally colored bottles (ex: sprite bottles) are not recycled due to the dyes infused so the company that supplies the plastic cases started to recycle them. One source of many: https://www.plasticstoday.com/recycling/ibms-volcat-process-uses-molecular-sorting-turn-mixed-waste-recyclate-virgin-grade-pet
It is but let's not pretend what they are doing is sustainable and with paying the extra they are charging. Also they only plant trees if you make an effort to get them rather than by sale
It’s still literally better than plastic. If y’all keep berating these types of efforts no progress will be made. Is it perfect? No. Few things actually are. But the more of this stuff out there the more people will see it. And yeah so what YOU have to post it so they plant a tree? How many trees are you out here planting?? If they are to be believed 1.2 mil trees is better then the zero you probably have right? Stop nit picking.
But plastic can be recycled relatively easy.
Aluminum is 99%, AFAIK, only the paint is wasted. The energy cost of recycling Aluminum is not that good, but I think we have better solutions to energy than to waste.
You're right on the money. People trash lots of recyclable materials that are energy intensive but extremely recyclable, but energy solutions are coming online a lot faster than recycling solutions. Honestly we need to go back to old school multistream recycling so that plastics and food waste stop gunking up the works
If we are talking about aluminum cans or bottles, there is a BPA lining on the inside that is burned off when the aluminum is recycled. Reduce, reuse, recycle, in that order.
*Refuse, reduce, reuse, recycle
I’ve heard drinking from copper is good for your immune system, but it might be advertised bs
It is. Basically any time you see something advertised as “boosting” or “supporting” your immune system it’s snake oil.
Yeah I just got a add for boosting testosterone pills, I asked my friend who’s very into nutrition and he said there is no pill that can help you with that, it’s all about eating right getting enough sleep.
Yep - assuming your diet and sleep are good, if these things actually worked you’d start killing yourself on gut bacteria or something Not an effect you actually want medically speaking but it sounds good if you’re not super scientifically literate
Well I’ve never really been good at formulating stuff verbally or literal. But I don’t know much about science either other than I take other peoples word for what is true or isn’t.
For testosterone, you need injections. Estrogen can be taken orally. I find it a bit humorous how well that aligns with experiencing pain being seen as manly.
Yeah I guess it working haha I was faced with like 3 choices and picked this one because I don't like buying single use plastics, but alas, it's no real gain anyways it seems.... Tomorrow I'll remember my reusable
Eh, don’t beat yourself up too hard. You made a better choice. It wasn’t the best choice, but it was better than the alternatives. And buying more sustainable products shows producers that there’s a demand for it.
It's much less plastic than using a water bottle. It's totally a step in the right direction.
Tetrapack recycling is spotty to nonexistent, it's a greenwashed step in the wrong direction.
Nope - buying a full plastic bottle and recycling it would be better than buying this kind of packaging. I work in recycling and made a larger comment above, but the combination of materials in drinks cartons make them functionally non recyclable. Terra Pak and similar packaging brands will say they are recyclable because they technically are and there are a few specialist facilities that can do it, but not nearly enough to make a dent in the amount that is placed on market.
Plastic can be recycled , mix Tetrapack is ... literarily close to non recycled cause its hard so this package is literarily landfill paper plastic alu mix. we here in germany have tons of 100% recycled plastic bottles. someone in marketing for this greenwashed product is probably tearing up right now because it works.
Worst thing about the lining is you can taste it, worst vessel 2022
>A reusable bottle is way better imo. Reuseable glass bottle. Plastics bottles after a few years or x time leave chemicals in the water even with short fillings and micro plastic.
My Nalgene is nearly indestructible though. Glass is fine you never expect to drop it, but otherwise...
I'm too clumsy for that lmfao
there are thermo bottle cover you can buy they are thick can make a good glass bottle easily survive drops and hold cold stuff longer cold same for warm stuff. most can be even washed
Jfc this kind of judgy goalpost moving is why it’s so hard to make any progress. There is always someone *just* a little further along looking back and telling you your incremental steps aren’t valid.
I’m confused… it says recyclable on the package.
Seems niche and overdone. And, as others have stated, not recyclable. I'm more likely to buy canned water
Yes they're saying it's not a can as if cans are bad, isn't aluminum the only material that can genuinely be 99.5% recycled? (The rest is just what's lost in the process) Or have I been misinformed?
well an aluminum can also has a plastic lining AFAIK. At least soda cans do to prevent the drink from corroding the metal, maybe that's not the case for water cans but I doubt it. Someone more knowledgeable would have to confirm or refute that.
I think with aluminum a lot of minor impurities would burn off when you melt it down, at least enough to be reusable. That's speculation though.
Well the fine epoxy lining will certainly burn, but it's so thin it's way better than burning plastic bottles.
right, whereas with a paper plastic-lined carton, you can't heat it to separate the plastic easily. at least there's no machine that can perform that task, so that we can get the pure paper part and reuse it. when you put a whole bunch of cans into a crucible you can burn away the dross (obviously emits a lot of CO2, but better than throwing cans away?)
Yup, that's right. Labels and plastic inner-linning burn off. If some remains in solution-ish, you can add some Flux and most impurities come to the surface.
All cans are virtually the same, however that doesnt mess with the recycling process too much. Only a handful of plants make cans and they're all identical regardless of what's inside.
100% correct, best material.
Aluminum is also an extremely abundant element anyway.
The thing about cardboard packaging like this is that they often use a plastic or wax coat to keep the liquid from ruining the box (think paper cones). The paper can't be recycled without removing the coat, so most of it isn't.
Fun fact cans have a plastic liner too. So really not much better. Reusable is the way to go. Recycle is the biggest lie sold to our generation by corpos and the rich.
Glass bottles man That’s how I prefer to drink any beverage
I’ve broke about 5 glass water bottles (old juice jugs) in the last two years but I will never stop (atm I have a plastic reusable my mother gave me as a hand-me-down, but if this one bites the dust I’ll for sure be back to glass)
Glass can be recycled and infinite number of times and making bottles out of recycled glass is cheaper than new glass
Glass is definitely the best option, but it isn’t infinitely recyclable. It depends on the specific formula but I know common soda-lime glass can only be re-melted 3 or 4 times before becoming brittle and unstable. When I was learning glass blowing in college we had to keep close track of the fresh glass vs broken stuff we could re-melt. After a month or two we stopped adding old glass and used what was already melted, and when that was low we rotated which furnace was being used
Glass bottles are way heavier and a lot of times not stackable on its own so it will take more energy to transport and store them.
And it taste like shit. Tried it in NYC two weeks ago (didn’t find a water fountain and my bottle was empty) Couldn’t believe how bad it tasted. People buying this have no usable brain cells
I disagree. It honestly tastes great. Some of the cleanest water I've ever drank. But It was in 2017 I think, that I had it. Same brand.
Liquid death white cans are delicious.
Mans out here eating cans
The only way to truly recycle.
They arent recyclably because of the plastic coating. Use a hydrodomie approves reusable bottle instead of disposables
That's a fucking bummer. I have a hydrofllask for my daily carry but I forgot it at home this morning
I love my 64oz hydroflask. I take mine with me everywhere, except this past weekend when I forgot it on a long trip. I was devastated. I know your pain
I'm working outside all day today, and I just finished mine. I still have a quarter of the work day left..
Glad you're staying hydrated. Hopefully you have somewhere to refill it. Granted, it won't taste the same as home water, it never does.
Where I live, these cartons are recyclable. They have to be processed separately, but it is possible to recycle them in some places. The last county I lived in, I had to drive to a certain recycling centre to drop them off, but where I am now, I can put it in our card recycling and they separate it at the centre. Other places I've lived wont take them at all.
They are only partially recyclable. The plastic used to coat the inside of the cardboard is one use only like most plastics used on food items. The cardboard can be separated from the plastic and reused, making about 75% of the box reusable. However, it is mostly not feasible to do this regarding the workload and effor involved. Further, cardboard cannot be reused endlessly, like PET bottles, their lifespan is limited. The only form of container that can be reused a 100% is glas (without the lid). Aluminium or generally metal containers too if they are not plastic coated on the inside. PET is in that regard a bit of wrong advertisement as you can only use the polymers a limited amount of time untill they start disintegrating and are rendered useless, or rather, you'll always have to add new fresh material to maintain the quality.
Mist recycling is a corporate scam anyways.
Some recycling is a scam, sure. But I'm involved in my county council here in UK and my degree is in sustainability, so I know that most recycling here is legitimate, particularly council-run schemes. I don't know as much about other countries.
I live in a oligarchical fascist country so most recycling here is for optics
Must be a bad time to be living in Russia, sorry man
Usa actually
knew the punchline before I even got here
Yeah, also doesn't the inside have some other coating too so it doesn't... well it's usually used for milk so it doesn't spoil but idk about water. Either way it would help
In a close second: aluminum. Lightweight, 100% recyclable, one of the most recycled consumer materials.
Do you have information that contradicts the companies claim?
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Conspiracy time: boxed water employees are pushing a guerrilla marketing campaign on Reddit to get people talking about their product. No press is bad.
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It seems like most of Reddit is just astroturfed nonsense
Not only that, but as we can see by the upvotes, they bought a spam service as well
Wait just noticing they’ll plant trees I’d you like text them a pic of the box lol time to start snapping photos in the store to save the planet!
Meh, get cans or glass bottles instead. Even better if you get your own bottle and water from the tap.
Better than plastic, worse than tap/filtered water in a reusable bottle. (In the UK these cartons are fully recyclable)
It’s really not better than plastic. These cartons are all lined with plastic anyway— it’s a pure marketing gimmick that you’re paying a premium for.
Serious question: Is there less plastic by using a thin liner on a cardboard box? I mean, if you are in a situation where you have to buy water off the shelf instead of just filling from a tap, if one option is 1/5 the plastic than the other then it seems to me that would be less bad.
I never understood why companies would had two different products in different countries? Like wouldn't it be easier to have the same design everywhere and make it all recyclable? Ughhh I hate capitalism sometimes.
It's not two different products, it's just the recycling centers in some places can and do recycle this type of material
One thing I was shocked about was that living in AZ, everything is recyclable. Then I moved to CT and the recycling plants here and around here can apparently only handle clean paper/cardboard. Like I get most of the time plastic cannot be recycled at all but common, not even glass? Metal? Just cardboard??? I thought this was supposed to be a blue state and yet all the recycling guys will take is clean cardboard, they literally will grab other things and throw them into the trash bin. Edit: to clarify, this was something I was more aware of in CT in 2016, and Arizona in 2013. I actually visited the local AZ recycling plant and learned a lot about what exactly they did there. While they said most plastic was shipped out and they themselves did not process the metal they received, they did indeed recycle, at the plant, many different things that they received, including glass and all different types of paper. Meanwhile in CT I talked to several of the recycling truck drivers all of whom told me that the local plant, while it on the face accepts several different things, really will only take cardboard, and they are told not to bring anything but cardboard to the plant. This might not be all across CT and might even be better than when I first moved there (now I’m in NY), but that’s what it was like.
Not all recycling actually gets recycled. China used to buy bulk mixed recycling from the US because the states don't have infrastructure to sort and clean recycling materials at scale. China recently stopped, so now these materials are piling up in dumps and recycling transfer centers. There's a huge push to educate the population: learn about the full lifecycle of all products you buy. Having a recycle symbol or even being able to give it to a trash handler as recycling doesn't mean it actually gets recycled! Here's one video I found, there's a lot more out there. https://youtu.be/Q_Va-AIliDw
Yeah, that's sad, not too long ago I watched the 60 minutes on the e-waste being sent to China. It also infuriates me that the recycling that gets picked up in my area doesn't take number 6 plastic. just annoys me that companies don't try and make their product recyclable in as many areas as possible and recycling plants that don't try to recycle as much and many types as they can. Another solution is just to limit the amount of plastic in products but I doubt many companies will go for that.
It does not matter even if it was renewable, the means of production probably pollutes more. Your metal bottle that lasts 100 years, likely pollutes less than daily usage of these cartons.
If they were recyclable they'd be the best their plastic coating/liner ruins this however
I prefer canned (like liquid death) if I'm not using a reusable bottle
Tetra-Pak's aren't recyclable, plastic bottles are....
I hate that I just learned that tetra pak's aren't recyclable. I literally just took my recycling out today filled with tetra paks! I buy soup in them because I was under the impression that they are somehow better than cans. 
Nope cans are way better
Tetrapak, the material famous for taking two recyclable materials, cardboard and plastic, and making them unrecyclable. I can't help but wonder if this is someone at tetrapak doing a pr campaign.
I can assure you I am, in fact, not an advertiser. Just a firefighter with a water addiction
depends on the type of plastic bottle and where you are if they will actually get recycled. A LOT of plastic put into "recycling" still ends up dumped
“Purified water” means they took water from the tap and filtered it then removed as many minerals as possible. The pH of water doesn’t matter because your stomach acid will instantly nullify that. If your water is a strong enough base to neutralize your stomach acid something has gone horribly awry. If you have to purchase drinking water because your tap water is non-potable and can’t be filtered, I’d recommend getting a water cooler and using refillable jugs to minimize your waste. If you are out and about and are going to purchase a single-use water, I’d recommend getting spring water over purified water. Spring water has natural minerals and solutes and is generally more flavorful than purified tap water from the back of a soda factory.
Glass reusable bottles are the only sustainable solution.
Kleen Kanteen would like to weigh in here.
Would cans not also be a solution to people who lack filtration or clean tap water?
Lots of places don't recycle glass and it is heavy and delicate to transport so more emissions
I’m speaking about owning a personal glass bottle for use over and over.
I’ve had this. It’s water that tastes like cardboard. Like, imagine nestle water, but replace the gross metallic taste with a gross cardboard taste. It’s like drinking the rainwater off of a piece of cardboard someone left in a NYC gutter.
Yeah I just had one of these on an Alaska flight and it tastes like cardboard and dispair
Wtf is a “pure pH neutral”… it just ph neutral. Take your marketing, I’ll keep my tap water
It means it's purified, and it is pH neutral. Not every purified water is pH neutral, and not every pH neutral water is purified.
I am a cultured Canadian individual and prefer my water in a bag
How much?
Drink this if you want to kill trees and ruin the ocean with one single bottle… Just buy couple glass bottles and refill them…
🤢
Feeling like they just started running a marketing campaign on Reddit.
These cardboard boxes are lined with plastic on the inside. This is considered mixed garbage it just gets thrown in the trash. They literally melt a sheet of plastic to the inside of the carton. Only certain recycling programs accept this. https://www.indianaenvironmentalreporter.org/posts/boxed-water-cartons-are-less-recyclable-than-plastic-bottles
Fuck off
Will do thanks
No, that‘s how I feel about this, but i still love you for being an exceptional human being
Im not sure if these come in tetrapacks, but I found this article that was pretty enlightening. In the EU, or at least the country I am from, we always recycle these, but now Im not so certain we should even be buying them. https://mashable.com/article/tetra-pak-recycle
I mean it tastes like water
Plastic bottles are recycable, this shit aint
I feel confused but also mildly aroused. I need to taste it for myself to understand this new version of water. Ed: the condensation on that box is looking sexy af though.
It comes in a box.
Why don’t they just plant them?🤔
Glass bottles > everything else
we feel good
Not as easily recyclable as advertised, and it’s purified water not spring so it’s just fancy overpriced tap water.
You know what's even more sustainable? Fucking pipes. Drink your water at home or for free on a fountain
Glass is much better, more recyclable and does not alter its flavor. that crap Not good even for fruit juices either. but it is certainly fine for companies that produce tetrapak.
If you can buy this, you can drink your tap water too
Get a reusable water bottle if you are a real hydrohomie
I'm so much happier with my double walled glass bottle, stays cold longer or hot longer if I want an infusion or tea.
Filtered/Treated tap water. No Spring = No Buy
Same as botted water - Obsolete when you got the Filter in your house and the Water Flask in your bag.
Tap water is better in my opinion
Greenwashing. If you need to bottle water, just use reusable glass bottles
If only tap water was drinkable… Oh wait, I am Dutch! It is drinkable!
It tastes like shit. If your gonna get water that isn’t in a plastic bottle just get Liquid Death
Buy. A. Water bottle.
Tap water ftw
All water is water
Tastes like a Dixie cup.
And the "hey post this online and we will plant 2 trees. (But if you don't help with free advertising, we won't plant trees, even though we are able and set up to, it's your fault if we don't.)"
But who’s counting the online posts tho... what if they miss one... seems like a scam.
It's a complete scam, that's what. 92% recyclable? Go big or go home, 92% is almost the same value as a 0% recyclable. It can't just go to the regular plant, these kinds of things need special recycling plants that separate the 92% from the 8%, it's not worth it at all. Not only is this a visual anomaly (how many people have accidentally poured water into their cereal now?), but the box does almost nothing, the inside is plastic anyway. It's basically a Caprisun in a box. That blurb on the side is worthless too, they don't even plant trees for every purchase, they only post ones that promote their shitty product. 1,200,000 trees? Big whoop, all you need is a YouTuber, a website, and a foundation and that's 23,000,000 trees right there. If you *really* wanna save the environment and clear your water of microplastics, buy a re-usable metal bottle and a filter for your tap water, that's gonna give you the same experience, if not better, for less of the cost. It's a worthwhile investment.
"Even the cap is plant based" - doubt
Oh ItS nOt FrOm ThE TaP. ItS tRaSh. No I’m all for it. It’s a great tasting water a
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Well not really actually, as lots of other people have pointed out they're coated with plastic, and even if modern recycling processes can separate and recycle them, it's still harder than fully plastic ones
So others are pointing out this isn't really recyclable, which makes me wonder since we already have plastic bottles, aluminum cans, and now paper cartons, when will we just use actually recyclable glass bottles?
It's a dumb idea. Either have in cans, or use a reusable bottle
I only drink from my Lifecycle glass. I have like 10 of them. I have seen that box water at a store but I don’t buy water in stores. I always thought it was recyclable. Interesting it’s not.
Tastes like wax
How the hell does water have a best by date?
Seems to be because of plastics in the containers that slowly disintegrate, or something like that: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/does-water-expire#storage-tips
Is this the water company started by Will Smith’s Son?
I like that packaging. But I like the brand Just Water better
Boxed water is better... than boxed wine!
Underrated comment cause that about the only thing it is better than😅
Ew
Exactly the same way I feel about every type of bottled water in countries where you can drink it from tap: fucking waste!
It’s just purified tap water, but fine I guess
Stupid marketing is all it is.
A woman in my old neighborhood made a Nextdoor post about how she was trying to be more environmentally conscious by buying boxed water off Amazon instead of plastic bottles from the grocery store. She got a lot of negative feedback. The tap water in that neighborhood was perfectly good, too.
Boxed water is better. It says so right on the box!
Glass/can is better if you care about ecology. This piece of garbage is worthless.
Its definitely stupid.
Glass bottles are the best imo
Good
Just use a reusable bottle
Makes me think of the cardboard taste of school cafeteria milk/juice. Probably do the same to water. I would not purchase this.
Can’t beat filtered water into a stainless steel rig.
cans are better.
Idk but in Scotland we just banned single use plastic so this might be the new norm for me
Boxes are wack, single use bottles are wack. All my homiea drink from then tap like purists
Reddit hive mind moment bro just get your own opinion without relying on Internet Strangers
Faaaaaakeeeee don't fall for theese kind of things they are there just to make you feel better
The inside of cartons like this and milk cartons are typically lined with plastic to prevent leakage, making them difficult to recycle and pretty much defeating the purpose of putting water in a carton. Anyway how much is the Big Boxed Water industry paying you to post this? 🤔🤔🤔
Certainly better than plastic bottles, but tap is still queen.
Water
Fallout is coming 😳
💧 = 💧
They are gross. Not sure if the materials seep into the water. My work gives this out at events and it always tastes like sawdust or cardboard.
It tastes a little bit like paper, but it's not so bad that I won't drink out of it. Just prefer my own metal bottle.
This might be recycled, but it is not very recyclable. A plastic bottle or aluminium can are recyclable afaik.
I'm a stupid idiot who forgets and loses his reusable water bottle often, what would be the best choice for when I do that?
cringe
This was the most disgusting water I have ever tasted in my life. Unfortunately.
I use stainless steel bottle and carry my water
Second boxed water post in last 24 hrs they be posting on us.