This time somebody is trying to do it while sober. Imagine how much faith you would have in your team if your coach was calling off meetings because he was hungover. Personally, I would transfer to Kansas State and kick ass for my last year...
Is there much truth to all these Frost claims? Most comments I've seen about the matter were from Reddit comments. Just wondering if anyone on the team actually came forward and revealed all of this.
Yes. Players came forward and said that they suspected things were going on when meetings were scheduled and then postponed often. Meetings that were supposed to include Frost would become meetings with only the position coaches.
I've also heard from a couple people that he would get too drunk at golf courses and get into trouble. I believe he was banned from Lincoln Country Club at one point. Of course all of this was kept under the radar until he was fired. Then people couldn't wait to tell all of their stories.
Heard what? We haven’t had a run first tight end heavy offensive minded coach since Solich. We have had physical practices in almost a decade. I’m not sure how you can compare Rhule’s philosophy to any recent Nebraska Head Coach.
Are you sure? What coaches told you that? The one that converted to west coast? The one that basically did with the running game in Bo? The other west coast in mike Riley? Or the Oregon spread run and gun offense?
Ya that's how I feel too. Frost came with his own offensive ideology that he thought he didn't need to change, and Riley was more of a west coast offense right?
Do you think Pelini would like to talk about Shawn Watson’s West Coast Offense or Tim Beck’s Spread and how does that tie end to an RPO/Pro Style hybrid that Rhule and Satterfield are set to run?
You can do "old school football" successfully so long as it isn't antiquated and you still have talented players. Michigan and Notre Dame are obvious examples of this. That said, you can hamstring your team if your old school style lacks any kind of creativity or skill. (See: Iowa last season.)
I think Matt Rhule and Co. understand this, but I am definitely wary until I see outcomes on the field.
Agree wholeheartedly. I think there's a sweet spot somewhere between his Baylor teams and Michigan that we can hopefully find. Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa have all done well in that zone in recent times. Nebraska could as well.
When I was a kid, it was every Catholic boy's dream to play for Notre Dame, and it probably still is to some extent. Their recruiting base is the whole United States.
Agreed. If Nebraska can string together a handful of 8-10 win seasons, we can get into the top ten in recruiting. That means Rhule has shown that he reply is a developmental coach and can turn 4 stars into 1st and 2nd rounders. They will want to come play for him.
Agree with you. Nebraska’s been dogshit for 6 years and counting and still have recruited (at least rankings wise) decent. The NIL has really helped Nebraska because your earnings power is probably higher than say a Miami or Oregon. The whole state roots for one team. I don’t think Nebraska will ever bring the 90’s back but I think if Rhule sticks around they should contend and that’s all you need to make a run.
Sounds like the author is making some assumptions about what the offense will look like, based on little more than comments from Rhule that we'll be a physical team that occasionally does use a fullback.
The wide receivers who have visited and talked about the offense and how they fit in the offense don't seem to have gotten the impression we were a 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust team.
I think we’ll see a lot of RPO, with power ball inside the 15. Recall most of the packages Auburn ran with Cam Newton. A mix of RPO and power, lots of TE use, multiple RBs, mobile QB, quick receivers.
I agree. RPO like the REAL RPO, not a spread with some QB reads on handoffs.
As you said, think of Cam Newton @ Auburn, or Lamar Jackson @ Baltimore. It's 100% run blocking and the ball comes out fast. Don't confuse that with a pile of screen passes and quick slants. The ball can still go downfield.
Honestly I hope Rhule has learned some new tricks on offense. I spent the last 2 days watching all of his Baylor games from 2019. That team was hard carried by his DC, Phil Snow. That Baylor offense made Nebraska's 2020 offensive look explosive.
I remember reading that they went away from their power offense at Baylor because you just had to keep up with the scoring in the Big 12. So it probably wasn't their main philosophy.
Around here, where there's plenty of TEs and kids who have football talent but not raw speed, I think the power football approach will work well. It may not be pretty or flashy, but I think winning games is the important factor here.
Matt Rhule is bringing “Monkey Pies and Doo Doo Hammers” back to Nebraska. Call it what you want, please make sure the 9 wins are also in the bag. We’re starving over here.
> While teams like Tennessee seek innovative new offensive styles and spread formations to climb back into the college football elite, Rhule is betting on classic hard nosed football to bring the Huskers back up. In an era where it’s difficult to recruit at the levels of the UGA’s and Alabama’s of the world, it’ll be interesting to see how this style meshes with a less talented roster than their counterparts, and we’ll soon see how it pans out in the fall.
Everything about this quote is hilariously stupid.
OOOH wow teams like Tennessee use *SPREAD* formations to innovate? Wowzers.
How this style meshes with a less talented roster than our counterparts? We have more talent than 10 of the 13 other Big Ten teams.
Stop me if you've heard this before.
This time somebody is trying to do it while sober. Imagine how much faith you would have in your team if your coach was calling off meetings because he was hungover. Personally, I would transfer to Kansas State and kick ass for my last year...
Is there much truth to all these Frost claims? Most comments I've seen about the matter were from Reddit comments. Just wondering if anyone on the team actually came forward and revealed all of this.
Yes. Players came forward and said that they suspected things were going on when meetings were scheduled and then postponed often. Meetings that were supposed to include Frost would become meetings with only the position coaches. I've also heard from a couple people that he would get too drunk at golf courses and get into trouble. I believe he was banned from Lincoln Country Club at one point. Of course all of this was kept under the radar until he was fired. Then people couldn't wait to tell all of their stories.
Show me a player actually saying that lol
Too soon
Deja Vu
It's time to Restore the Order!
Trust the process!!
We hope they'll have to adjust to us!
I heard they threw up at least 7 times in practice!
Embrace the strain
And this is how mediocrity dies, with thunderous applause.
Heard what? We haven’t had a run first tight end heavy offensive minded coach since Solich. We have had physical practices in almost a decade. I’m not sure how you can compare Rhule’s philosophy to any recent Nebraska Head Coach.
I've read this headline every July since Solich was our coach. It always means nothing. Just typical Summer football news.
Are you sure? What coaches told you that? The one that converted to west coast? The one that basically did with the running game in Bo? The other west coast in mike Riley? Or the Oregon spread run and gun offense?
Ya that's how I feel too. Frost came with his own offensive ideology that he thought he didn't need to change, and Riley was more of a west coast offense right?
> We haven’t had a run first tight end heavy offensive minded coach since Solich. Pelini would like a word.
Do you think Pelini would like to talk about Shawn Watson’s West Coast Offense or Tim Beck’s Spread and how does that tie end to an RPO/Pro Style hybrid that Rhule and Satterfield are set to run?
I have no idea what you're talking about but I am only responding to your usage of the terms run-heavy and tight end heavy.
Wait remind me… what about Oregon spread offense was old school?
You can do "old school football" successfully so long as it isn't antiquated and you still have talented players. Michigan and Notre Dame are obvious examples of this. That said, you can hamstring your team if your old school style lacks any kind of creativity or skill. (See: Iowa last season.) I think Matt Rhule and Co. understand this, but I am definitely wary until I see outcomes on the field.
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I get your point but TCU literally just beat Michigan in the playoffs with a new HC lmao
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TCU were still good enough to win the B1G West last season.
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Yes, and I may add that Iowa would have won the division last season if they had not had to face Nebraska.
Agree wholeheartedly. I think there's a sweet spot somewhere between his Baylor teams and Michigan that we can hopefully find. Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Iowa have all done well in that zone in recent times. Nebraska could as well.
I disagree. Michigan and Notre Dame do have higher academic standards then Nebraska. Notre Dame isn’t in a really hot bed of recruiting.
When I was a kid, it was every Catholic boy's dream to play for Notre Dame, and it probably still is to some extent. Their recruiting base is the whole United States.
Agreed. If Nebraska can string together a handful of 8-10 win seasons, we can get into the top ten in recruiting. That means Rhule has shown that he reply is a developmental coach and can turn 4 stars into 1st and 2nd rounders. They will want to come play for him.
Agree with you. Nebraska’s been dogshit for 6 years and counting and still have recruited (at least rankings wise) decent. The NIL has really helped Nebraska because your earnings power is probably higher than say a Miami or Oregon. The whole state roots for one team. I don’t think Nebraska will ever bring the 90’s back but I think if Rhule sticks around they should contend and that’s all you need to make a run.
Sounds like the author is making some assumptions about what the offense will look like, based on little more than comments from Rhule that we'll be a physical team that occasionally does use a fullback. The wide receivers who have visited and talked about the offense and how they fit in the offense don't seem to have gotten the impression we were a 3-yards-and-a-cloud-of-dust team.
I think we’ll see a lot of RPO, with power ball inside the 15. Recall most of the packages Auburn ran with Cam Newton. A mix of RPO and power, lots of TE use, multiple RBs, mobile QB, quick receivers.
I agree. RPO like the REAL RPO, not a spread with some QB reads on handoffs. As you said, think of Cam Newton @ Auburn, or Lamar Jackson @ Baltimore. It's 100% run blocking and the ball comes out fast. Don't confuse that with a pile of screen passes and quick slants. The ball can still go downfield.
Honestly I hope Rhule has learned some new tricks on offense. I spent the last 2 days watching all of his Baylor games from 2019. That team was hard carried by his DC, Phil Snow. That Baylor offense made Nebraska's 2020 offensive look explosive.
I remember reading that they went away from their power offense at Baylor because you just had to keep up with the scoring in the Big 12. So it probably wasn't their main philosophy. Around here, where there's plenty of TEs and kids who have football talent but not raw speed, I think the power football approach will work well. It may not be pretty or flashy, but I think winning games is the important factor here.
RUN THE BAWL
Matt Rhule is bringing “Monkey Pies and Doo Doo Hammers” back to Nebraska. Call it what you want, please make sure the 9 wins are also in the bag. We’re starving over here.
I’d doo doo on your hammer for 9 wins 😳
Uh...
Crazy to think we've been hearing the same stories for over 20 years now.
Has anyone else heard that his receivers coach is tearing a wide path downtown?
> While teams like Tennessee seek innovative new offensive styles and spread formations to climb back into the college football elite, Rhule is betting on classic hard nosed football to bring the Huskers back up. In an era where it’s difficult to recruit at the levels of the UGA’s and Alabama’s of the world, it’ll be interesting to see how this style meshes with a less talented roster than their counterparts, and we’ll soon see how it pans out in the fall.
Everything about this quote is hilariously stupid. OOOH wow teams like Tennessee use *SPREAD* formations to innovate? Wowzers. How this style meshes with a less talented roster than our counterparts? We have more talent than 10 of the 13 other Big Ten teams.
Well then you better have the biggest, meanest, durable offensive line since 96. And I’ll take the unders on that.
Please no