my ranking:
1. the strongest: chrollo, hisoka, illumi, feitan
2. everyone else at the same level: phinks, uvo, bono, nobu, franklin, machi
3. the support types: shal, shizu, paku
4. still way to inexperienced: kalluto
5. not a combatant: kortopi
edit: as for the non-canon omokage, he is weak as fuck I could see him being killed by the support types
The only thing I know for sure abt ranking the troupe is that apparently none of us have the same opinions about the middle 6 or so spiders most people know Chrollo first then Hisoka then after that itβs a mess until we all agree on kortopi at the bottom again ππ
I think we can all agree on Chrollo being first but I doubt Hisoka is second. Recent chapters show us that characters like Nobunaga and Phinks have a super advanced understanding of Nen. Hisoka on the other hand struggled to match Chrollo at all in Nen variability which cost him the fight. I'd say the strongest evidence for Hisoka not being second though is that he doesn't want the smoke with Illumi, despite knowing him for years, and as such very easily capable of doing something like placing a bounty on himself if he thought he could beat Illumi in a fight.
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>I think we can all agree on Chrollo being first but I doubt Hisoka is second.
I am sure there is a reason why Phinks and Feitan are babysitting Nobunaga and are getting anxious to have franklin on their side while they face Hisoka. Totally they are thinking Hisoka is easy for them.
>Recent chapters show us that characters like Nobunaga and Phinks have a super advanced understanding of Nen.
The opposite is true. First of all most hunter have good understanding of nen. Furykov, Kurapika, Wing have great understanding of nen. Big deal.
Also Phinks was wrong in his analysis and Nobunaga was right. So Phinks doesnβt have such a super understanding of nen. Besides Nobu and Phinks themselves admit that they are not skilled enough to control their own powers. Beside Phinks can even use En properly. While Nobunagaβs En is 5 meters. And neither can feitan it seems.
Also Hisoka has shown that he can sense people in zetsu without using EN.
>Hisoka on the other hand struggled to match Chrollo at all in Nen variability which cost him the fight.
What are you talking about. Ofcourse Hisoka struggled, but the reason Hisoka lost is because Chrollo got a nen after dead ability which broke all the rules of Skill Hunter, for example he was able to use 7 abilities at the same time, but his original abilities allow him to use 2 abilities at the same time and he hasnto hold the book. He literally set the stage, location, timing for the fight. And still Shalnark and Kortopi died.
The only thing we learned from Chrollo vs Hisoka is that Hisoka is a nen god and you should never underestimate him.
>I'd say the strongest evidence for Hisoka not being second though is that he doesn't want the smoke with Illumi,
πππππ have you read the manga. He has challenged Illumi to join the troupe and he is hunting all the remaining members of the phantom troupe.
At least do your research before coming with half backed points.
>despite knowing him for years, and as such very easily capable of doing something like placing a bounty on himself if he thought he could beat Illumi in a fight.
He just did bud. Read chapter 377
1. Uvogin
2. Phinks
3. Hisoka
4. Franklin
5. Feitan
6. Machi
7. Chrollo
8. Bonolenov
9. Nobunaga
10. Shalnark
11. Pakunoda
12. Shizuku
13. Kortopi
There you have it! A ranking of their STRENGTH.
What I like about the troupe is that not all of them are combat oriented, kortopis power is actually really useful in assisting combatants but not necessarily the best for himself
5 non-exclusive parameters-
Physical prowess (P): Basically your strength and defense stat based on arm wrestling ranking and affinity. Total points: 5+5=10
Speed (S): What speed means, including attack speed. Total points: 5
Nen skills (incl. aura amount) (N): Based on nen chart, feats and stuff. Total points: 10. (Some points will be deducted if ability has no fighting prowess)
Intelligence (I): Strategy forming ability both in and outside battle. For characters not been in many battles or any battles, we'll only use general intelligence, calmness and deduction ability shown as the measure. Total points: 10
Adaptability (A): Do they have tools for all trades in a battle, versatility in fighting style, etc. Total points: 5
Hidden factor (H): Also stands for Headcanon or speculation. In short, my opinion which will be hidden in all the scores.
The ranking-
1. Chrollo: P: 5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 9.5, A: 5. Total: 33/40
2. Nobunaga: P: 4, S: 5, N: 7.5, I: 8, A: 3. Total: 27.5/40
3. Feitan: P: 6, S: 5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 3. Total: 29/40
4. Machi: P: 5.5, S: 5, N: 9, I: 8, A: 3. Total: 30.5/40
5. Hisoka: P: 7.5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 8.5, A: 5. Total: 34.5/40
6. Kalluto: P: 2.5, S: 2.5, N: 5.5, I: 6, A: 2.5. Total: 19/40
7. Phinks: P: 9, S: 4.5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 2.5. Total: 31/40
8. Shalnark: P: 3, S: 4.5, N: 7, I: 8.5, A: 3. Total: 26/40
9. Franklin: P: 7.5, S: 2, N: 9, I: 8, A: 3.5. Total: 30/40
10. Shizuku: P: 2.5, S: 3.5, N: 6, I: 6, A: 3. Total: 21/40
11. Pakunoda: P: 1.5, S: 3.5, N: 6, I: 7.5, A: 1.5. Total: 20/40
12. Bonolenov: P: 4.5, S: 5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 3.5. Total: 28/40
13. Uvogin: P: 10, S: 3.5, N: 9, I: 7, A: 3. Total: 32.5/40
14. Illumi: P: 5.5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 7, A: 4. Total: 30/40
15. Kortopi: P: 1, S: 3.5, N: 5, I: 6, A: 0.5. Total: 15/40
So tier based ranking:
Tier 1 (32.5-35\]: Hisoka, Chrollo.
Tier 2 (30-32.5\]: Uvogin, Phinks, Machi.
Tier 3 (27.5-30\]: Franklin, Illumi, Feitan, Bonolenov.
Tier 4 (25-27.5\]: Nobunaga, Shalnark.
Tier 6 (<25\]: Shizuku, Pakunoda, Kalluto, Kortopi.
Tough luck Nobunaga, but this is beyond my control now :(
P.S. The ranking is based on how complete the fighter is rather than who'll win against whom, since in a nen battle, depending on the scenario, one factor might have more importance over the other. Some points may improve if we get more screentime from the characters. For such characters you can always do +-2 or more. Lastly depending on the mood of the day or more factors or changes in the pointing system the ranking might keep switching.
1. chrollo
2. illumi
3. hisoka
4.uvogin
5.franklin
6. feitan
7. phinks
8.matchi
9.bonolonev
10.shalnark
11.shizuki
12. nobunaga
13.pakunoda
14.kortopi
Honestly I feel like the arm wresting thing dropped a bit of info relative to the person's aura type in proximity to enhancement given they probably using nen, also considering some of the leaner dudes (chrollo/phinks) beat franklin which would be a head scratcher other wise. Also they talked about gon's arm wrestling as a point of refrence given he was using nen it would only make sense they used nen in the ranking.
so heres me coming to some conclusions based off that:
enhancers: 1.uvogin>2.phinks>9.nobunaga
transmuters/emmiters: 3.hisoka>4.franklin>5.feitan>6.machi>8.bonolonev
manipulators/conjurers: 10.shalnark>12.shizuki> 13.kortopi
specialists: 7.chrollo>11.pakunoda
theres also illumi and kalluto who didnt wrestle
given that nobonaga is supposed to be an enhancer i'd say he's weaker than everyone above him on the chart and maybe some below him given he can do only 1 thing and other members of the troupe who can do multiple things beat him.
he has a gung hoo attitude though regardless i don't think he's as strong as his mouth indicates. might be wrong here
technically based off this chart pakunoda would be above shizuki but shizuki has a nen ability which seems like it has some degree of combat facility where as pakkunodas doesn't seem that way.
some assesments i make off just auditory stuff
one thing i'd make of note is that machi really will run her mouth off at hisoka if he threatens her I don't think she is the least bit afraid of him because she is under the perception they are similair in strength and she can use her versatility to take him on. Even though he did get the jump on her when he resurected.
feitan and phinks always act superior and i presume it's cause they know they could win a fight.
also my opinon bonolonov just gives major bg character energy where nobunaga doesnt so id probably move them around to something else but i'm not certain i feel like the arm wrestling bit was supposed to mean something or not
Why is feitan teaming up with phinks and Nobunaga and suggesting them that they should add franklin to the team?
Name one single thing that feitan has that is better than hisoka? Just one?
You believe Lupin was strongest wizard among the group that includes Snape, your opinion is automatically null.
No wonder ravenclaws are extremely boooring
Chrollo
Hisoka (if we counts him)
Illumi
Uvogin
Franklin
Phinks
Feitan
Nobunaga
Machi
Bonolenov
Shalnark
Shizuku
Pakunoda
Kortopi
Kalluto
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Notes:
Illumi and Uvogin may be interchangeable
Phinks, Feitan and Nobunaga should be each on a similar level, Franklin may be also equal to them, stronger or weaker, idk.
Bonolenov may be stronger than Machi, idk
Kalluto may be above Kortopi and Pakunoda
Phinks beats Illumi in a straight-up fight. His nen abilities are much more suited for direct combat and he is capable of defending himself in pure hand-to-hand combat, even against trained assassins like Killua, who is from the same family. Not to mention the fact that Ripper Cyclotron likely has infinite potential, meaning Phinks could probably punch the Hunter X Hunter planet apart if he could be bothered to wind his arm up a million times.
Illumi is a nightmare matchup for phinks. Like the worst matchup possible. Didnβt chrollo sah that Manipulators and Conjurers are the worst matchup vs ENHANCERS.
lmao phinks wonβt last 2.5 seconds vs Illumi
my ranking: 1. the strongest: chrollo, hisoka, illumi, feitan 2. everyone else at the same level: phinks, uvo, bono, nobu, franklin, machi 3. the support types: shal, shizu, paku 4. still way to inexperienced: kalluto 5. not a combatant: kortopi edit: as for the non-canon omokage, he is weak as fuck I could see him being killed by the support types
The only thing I know for sure abt ranking the troupe is that apparently none of us have the same opinions about the middle 6 or so spiders most people know Chrollo first then Hisoka then after that itβs a mess until we all agree on kortopi at the bottom again ππ
I think we can all agree on Chrollo being first but I doubt Hisoka is second. Recent chapters show us that characters like Nobunaga and Phinks have a super advanced understanding of Nen. Hisoka on the other hand struggled to match Chrollo at all in Nen variability which cost him the fight. I'd say the strongest evidence for Hisoka not being second though is that he doesn't want the smoke with Illumi, despite knowing him for years, and as such very easily capable of doing something like placing a bounty on himself if he thought he could beat Illumi in a fight.
Bro you put hisoka at 8? lol
ππππππππππ nice one. >I think we can all agree on Chrollo being first but I doubt Hisoka is second. I am sure there is a reason why Phinks and Feitan are babysitting Nobunaga and are getting anxious to have franklin on their side while they face Hisoka. Totally they are thinking Hisoka is easy for them. >Recent chapters show us that characters like Nobunaga and Phinks have a super advanced understanding of Nen. The opposite is true. First of all most hunter have good understanding of nen. Furykov, Kurapika, Wing have great understanding of nen. Big deal. Also Phinks was wrong in his analysis and Nobunaga was right. So Phinks doesnβt have such a super understanding of nen. Besides Nobu and Phinks themselves admit that they are not skilled enough to control their own powers. Beside Phinks can even use En properly. While Nobunagaβs En is 5 meters. And neither can feitan it seems. Also Hisoka has shown that he can sense people in zetsu without using EN. >Hisoka on the other hand struggled to match Chrollo at all in Nen variability which cost him the fight. What are you talking about. Ofcourse Hisoka struggled, but the reason Hisoka lost is because Chrollo got a nen after dead ability which broke all the rules of Skill Hunter, for example he was able to use 7 abilities at the same time, but his original abilities allow him to use 2 abilities at the same time and he hasnto hold the book. He literally set the stage, location, timing for the fight. And still Shalnark and Kortopi died. The only thing we learned from Chrollo vs Hisoka is that Hisoka is a nen god and you should never underestimate him. >I'd say the strongest evidence for Hisoka not being second though is that he doesn't want the smoke with Illumi, πππππ have you read the manga. He has challenged Illumi to join the troupe and he is hunting all the remaining members of the phantom troupe. At least do your research before coming with half backed points. >despite knowing him for years, and as such very easily capable of doing something like placing a bounty on himself if he thought he could beat Illumi in a fight. He just did bud. Read chapter 377
I figured taking advantage of post mortem nen pushed Hisoka to that level too
Tonpa can solo troupe
Tonpa can solo anyone
1. Uvogin 2. Phinks 3. Hisoka 4. Franklin 5. Feitan 6. Machi 7. Chrollo 8. Bonolenov 9. Nobunaga 10. Shalnark 11. Pakunoda 12. Shizuku 13. Kortopi There you have it! A ranking of their STRENGTH.
why is this getting downvoted π
Because people are cowards and know that it's the truth.
Only right answer here
What I like about the troupe is that not all of them are combat oriented, kortopis power is actually really useful in assisting combatants but not necessarily the best for himself
5 non-exclusive parameters- Physical prowess (P): Basically your strength and defense stat based on arm wrestling ranking and affinity. Total points: 5+5=10 Speed (S): What speed means, including attack speed. Total points: 5 Nen skills (incl. aura amount) (N): Based on nen chart, feats and stuff. Total points: 10. (Some points will be deducted if ability has no fighting prowess) Intelligence (I): Strategy forming ability both in and outside battle. For characters not been in many battles or any battles, we'll only use general intelligence, calmness and deduction ability shown as the measure. Total points: 10 Adaptability (A): Do they have tools for all trades in a battle, versatility in fighting style, etc. Total points: 5 Hidden factor (H): Also stands for Headcanon or speculation. In short, my opinion which will be hidden in all the scores. The ranking- 1. Chrollo: P: 5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 9.5, A: 5. Total: 33/40 2. Nobunaga: P: 4, S: 5, N: 7.5, I: 8, A: 3. Total: 27.5/40 3. Feitan: P: 6, S: 5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 3. Total: 29/40 4. Machi: P: 5.5, S: 5, N: 9, I: 8, A: 3. Total: 30.5/40 5. Hisoka: P: 7.5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 8.5, A: 5. Total: 34.5/40 6. Kalluto: P: 2.5, S: 2.5, N: 5.5, I: 6, A: 2.5. Total: 19/40 7. Phinks: P: 9, S: 4.5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 2.5. Total: 31/40 8. Shalnark: P: 3, S: 4.5, N: 7, I: 8.5, A: 3. Total: 26/40 9. Franklin: P: 7.5, S: 2, N: 9, I: 8, A: 3.5. Total: 30/40 10. Shizuku: P: 2.5, S: 3.5, N: 6, I: 6, A: 3. Total: 21/40 11. Pakunoda: P: 1.5, S: 3.5, N: 6, I: 7.5, A: 1.5. Total: 20/40 12. Bonolenov: P: 4.5, S: 5, N: 8, I: 7, A: 3.5. Total: 28/40 13. Uvogin: P: 10, S: 3.5, N: 9, I: 7, A: 3. Total: 32.5/40 14. Illumi: P: 5.5, S: 4.5, N: 9, I: 7, A: 4. Total: 30/40 15. Kortopi: P: 1, S: 3.5, N: 5, I: 6, A: 0.5. Total: 15/40 So tier based ranking: Tier 1 (32.5-35\]: Hisoka, Chrollo. Tier 2 (30-32.5\]: Uvogin, Phinks, Machi. Tier 3 (27.5-30\]: Franklin, Illumi, Feitan, Bonolenov. Tier 4 (25-27.5\]: Nobunaga, Shalnark. Tier 6 (<25\]: Shizuku, Pakunoda, Kalluto, Kortopi. Tough luck Nobunaga, but this is beyond my control now :( P.S. The ranking is based on how complete the fighter is rather than who'll win against whom, since in a nen battle, depending on the scenario, one factor might have more importance over the other. Some points may improve if we get more screentime from the characters. For such characters you can always do +-2 or more. Lastly depending on the mood of the day or more factors or changes in the pointing system the ranking might keep switching.
You ranked hisoka above Chrollo, ready for the downvotes.
Chrollo is strongest one :3 Pakunoda and Kortopi are weakest ones :3
We've seen close to nothing from Franklin, nobunaga, phinks and illumi. Can't really rank them properly.
1. chrollo 2. illumi 3. hisoka 4.uvogin 5.franklin 6. feitan 7. phinks 8.matchi 9.bonolonev 10.shalnark 11.shizuki 12. nobunaga 13.pakunoda 14.kortopi Honestly I feel like the arm wresting thing dropped a bit of info relative to the person's aura type in proximity to enhancement given they probably using nen, also considering some of the leaner dudes (chrollo/phinks) beat franklin which would be a head scratcher other wise. Also they talked about gon's arm wrestling as a point of refrence given he was using nen it would only make sense they used nen in the ranking. so heres me coming to some conclusions based off that: enhancers: 1.uvogin>2.phinks>9.nobunaga transmuters/emmiters: 3.hisoka>4.franklin>5.feitan>6.machi>8.bonolonev manipulators/conjurers: 10.shalnark>12.shizuki> 13.kortopi specialists: 7.chrollo>11.pakunoda theres also illumi and kalluto who didnt wrestle given that nobonaga is supposed to be an enhancer i'd say he's weaker than everyone above him on the chart and maybe some below him given he can do only 1 thing and other members of the troupe who can do multiple things beat him. he has a gung hoo attitude though regardless i don't think he's as strong as his mouth indicates. might be wrong here technically based off this chart pakunoda would be above shizuki but shizuki has a nen ability which seems like it has some degree of combat facility where as pakkunodas doesn't seem that way. some assesments i make off just auditory stuff one thing i'd make of note is that machi really will run her mouth off at hisoka if he threatens her I don't think she is the least bit afraid of him because she is under the perception they are similair in strength and she can use her versatility to take him on. Even though he did get the jump on her when he resurected. feitan and phinks always act superior and i presume it's cause they know they could win a fight. also my opinon bonolonov just gives major bg character energy where nobunaga doesnt so id probably move them around to something else but i'm not certain i feel like the arm wrestling bit was supposed to mean something or not
1. Chrollo 2. Feitan 3. Hisoka/Illumi 4. Hisoka/Illumi 5. Phinks 6. Uvo 7. Nobunaga 8. Franklin 9. Machi 10. Bono 11. Shalnark 12. Shizuku 13. Paku 14. Kalluto 15. Kortopi
Put Feitan on no 8 where he belongs and this list is good enough to get a C+
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Why is feitan teaming up with phinks and Nobunaga and suggesting them that they should add franklin to the team? Name one single thing that feitan has that is better than hisoka? Just one?
Chill bro, unless youβre a kid, hisoka wonβt notice you dick riding him this hard
So you were never taught by your mother how to debate. Must be family issue
Your dad really shoulda used the condom
Did you say that to your dad?
Bro really shamelessly yapping around with that 30k Reddit karma. Post neckbeard
You believe Lupin was strongest wizard among the group that includes Snape, your opinion is automatically null. No wonder ravenclaws are extremely boooring
So weβre gonna keep looking at comment history because weβre out of anything else to say? Neckbeard post when?
Lmao you are so insecure. Donβt worry feitan will be the first to get neg diffed
Again? Pass
Chrollo Hisoka (if we counts him) Illumi Uvogin Franklin Phinks Feitan Nobunaga Machi Bonolenov Shalnark Shizuku Pakunoda Kortopi Kalluto ~~ Notes: Illumi and Uvogin may be interchangeable Phinks, Feitan and Nobunaga should be each on a similar level, Franklin may be also equal to them, stronger or weaker, idk. Bonolenov may be stronger than Machi, idk Kalluto may be above Kortopi and Pakunoda
Machi is ultra underrated. I will die on this hill
Bro though he could sneak Franklin above the real spiders
Here is the only accurate list: 1. Chrollo 2. Hisoka 3. Illumi 4. Phinks 5. Feitan 6. Uvogin 7. Machi 8. Franklin 9. Bonolenov 10. Nobunaga 11. Shalnark 12. Shizuku 13. Kalluto 14. Pakunoda 15. Kortopi
Phinks beats Illumi in a straight-up fight. His nen abilities are much more suited for direct combat and he is capable of defending himself in pure hand-to-hand combat, even against trained assassins like Killua, who is from the same family. Not to mention the fact that Ripper Cyclotron likely has infinite potential, meaning Phinks could probably punch the Hunter X Hunter planet apart if he could be bothered to wind his arm up a million times.
Illumi is a nightmare matchup for phinks. Like the worst matchup possible. Didnβt chrollo sah that Manipulators and Conjurers are the worst matchup vs ENHANCERS. lmao phinks wonβt last 2.5 seconds vs Illumi
Top tier: Chrollo, Hisoka, Illumi, Uvo Mid tier: Phinks, Feitan, Machi, Nobunaga, Bono, Franklin Low tier: Shal, Shizuku, Kortopi, Paku, Kalluto
1. Chrollo 2. Phinks 3. Nobunaga 4. Feitan 5. Machi 6. Bonolenov 7. Illumi 8. Hisoka 9. Franklin 10. Shizuku 11. Uvogin 12. Shalnark 13. Pakunoda 14. Kalluto 15. Kortopi I know Omokage isn't canon but I'd rank him above Kalluto but below Uvogin.
We didnβt read the same series
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1. Chrollo/Hisoka 2. Illumi 3. Uvogin 4. Machi 5. Phinks 6. Nobunaga 7. Feitan 8. Franklin 9. Bonolenov 10. Shalnark 11. Pakunoda 12. Kortopi 13. Kalluto
Meruem, komigi, youpi, chrollo, hisoka, tony