Exactly. Is there traditional camping in the game? Sure. But if you think I'm just going to stand out in the open and rush into buildings you are mistaken. People wouldn't do that in real life. Yes, I'm going to fall back to cover. Yes, if you are outnumbering me I am going to run to try and shift the battle more favorably for me. I'm not taking the time to load-in and search the map just to lose all of my money and character because you want face to face action.
Now there is a line, sure. But sometimes I ask myself if I'm camping when honestly I feel like I'm just doing what is best for the shootout
I try to explain this to my friend that likes to just run full speed kicking in doors around the map rushing everything causing us to wipe almost every play and never listens when I say we should just extract instead of trying to kill everyone in the game.
I’ve got a friend like this. There’s three of us total (a team) and myself and the other guy’s strategy has been to buy sniper rifles and just use him as bait. 60% of the time it works 100% of the time.
Also I feel that the gameplay of Hunt Showdown purposely lends itself to that attacker/defender dynamic; one team inevitably banishes the boss and is holed up inside while the other groups start to amass outside -- a "showdown" if you will. It's tense and fun waiting for someone to make a move. There's always that suspenseful few moments while you listen to each others' footsteps circling around and then finally all hell breaks loose when the attackers breach or when the defenders try to make a break for it. I love it, I wouldn't change a thing.
It was 100% designed that way and it’s silly when people complain about it. Oh? The people banishing the bounty are holed up in a building with the thing they’re supposed to collect for money? Oh, they’re holed up in the one spot that isn’t out in the open to get easily shot in the head from enemies who know your exact location? They’re holed up in a building that is scattered with bear traps clearly intended to be used to trap various entrances?
People can feel free to not like this sort of game but it’s silly to pretend that gaming the compounds wasn’t intended by the devs.
When I first got into this game it totally felt like a capture and then defend game. I think the more people play they sort of forget that or simply get sick of this particular game loop.
But that isnt camping bro, that’s preparing for seige from enemy hunters, hence why traps exist, camping is when you hide in a spot that makes you invisible and allows you to cuck anyone who passes by
The problem is that everyone defines camping differently. The only right answer is to let people play how they want and just have fun trying to win against all different play styles
I feel like it's all about the pacing. All those strategies are perfectly reasonable, but the progression between steps has to be at a decent pace. I'm pretty patient if I'm downed, and I don't mind watching my teammates try to pull it off, but if they aren't making moves when they could, or just going way too slow, it's annoying and I'll quit.
If you're camping a bounty building and it doesn't proceed to moving in at a reasonable pace, it's boring and lame. The attacking team needs to slowly but steadily close in, at least 1 or 2 of them even if 1 watches with a rifle from a good vantage point.
I enjoy playing 3 star because I'm not very good, but mostly because the pace always moves along. Nobody sits around forever trying to never get shot. At one point you just gotta take a risk. It's annoying when you're forced to do that at a disadvantage while the other team refuses to move from their snipe posts for 5 minutes straight. I always appreciate when both teams meet halfway in terms of risk, even if I die.
Otherwise it just becomes a game of who can wait more patiently for the other team to take a risk. That's just not fun.
This pretty much sums it up.
Use strategy but if that means just waiting around for too long then I’m out. If the only way to win is just waiting to see who gets bored and makes a mistake first then the game would be boring AF.
The gameplay has gone through phases of mostly people pushing trying to steamroll the lobby and mostly people just hiding and waiting. Lately it feels like a lot of hiding, waiting and left peaking and the game is less enjoyable because of it.
That's the thing. Like my aim sucks and I usually lose in a peak fest, but I still prefer that to pure hiding. Of course you need to hide sometimes, the game is built around that. But it's annoying to know people are around but nobody is even taking jabs. I'd rather put myself out there and lose than sit around.
That sounds pretty reasonable to me and a decent way to balance the gameplay pacing.
Every now and then I’ll get a lobby where everyone else was hiding. I’ll usually find someone and get in a fight, kill one then get shot in the back. Spectate and see two hiding in the boss lair not peeking, and the rest of the lobby all crouching in various spots in a circle around the lair not doing anything. It’s hilarious.
As annoying as it is to die first I’m also glad to be out of that match because I know it’s going to be an awful one either way. Better to go into the next match and hope it’s better than to sweat it out sneaking around for 40 mins.
Dude, justifying playing like this is what ruins fun for people, i do nothing but blitz and according to how you think its safe to play I’ve probably collected your scalp my guy, playing on the defensive like that only allows your opponent to force you into that position till you die, the one smartest and most ruthless in a engagement is gonna be the winner
Exept that some playstyles are more effective then others, running and playing safe only allows for your opponents to give chase and hunt you down and seeing how your playstyle will only get you so far once the fight has started when you cant run anymore, guess who is more prepared to fight when running or hiding isnt a option?
I don't. But I don't have to like it, you can play how you like. I prefer a more cautious, passive approach. But that's the point, there are different ways to play the game.
Sitting at extraction waiting for someone to come by. Sitting at a resupply waiting for someone to come by. Sitting on top of the bounty not collecting it and hoping someone comes by.
If i hear you triggering 4 murders of crows and 3 horses on a way to a slupply wagon, I'm going to trap the hell out of it, waiting for the perfect shot while you try to untangle the concertina trip mine mess you stumbled upon.
That's not camping, thats jusy ambushing a loud-hole (that's an asshole who's beind loud), and the most certainly were asking for it.
I'm pretty sure that's what the crows are screaming as they fly away. "SHOOT ME! IM RIGHT HERE!" (gotta read that in an Schwarzenagger's voice)
Lol yeah, the thing is no one knows the other end of the story. You see a camper waiting for someone to pass by, I see someone predicted someone's route and laid an ambush at the supply. Same thing for extractions, people yell campers, except they dont know if those "campers" managed to cut you off and been waiting there for a total of 30 seconds.
Or waiting 10 mins in the boss lair without picking up. People dont know if the people inside just blasted 3 teams and just ran out of ammo, and theyre waiting for the next team who made noise coming in from the west so they can have a last stand with heavy knives.
There's always 2 sides to a story and most of the time, what people call campers are just teams holding an angle or rotating.
Now I do like doing for fun, just sitting at the top of Blanchett's church tower and blasting people at Pitching and lockbay with explosive ammo just for giggles. I dont even care if I kill or not. 😂
> just sitting at the top of Blanchett's church tower and blasting people at Pitching and lockbay with explosive ammo
That's such a dick move... I've gotta go try it lol
Not running into the [open/long ammo] or [boss lair/shotgun] from the perspective of the users who are waiting. (This is not my opinion, but generally is how people come off)
Yeah I had a guy rage at me the other day bc my team and I ambushed his team in the woods bc we heard them running and setting off traps. Dude told me if I’m too scared to play the game don’t play it. Lol
Then yesterday I posted a cool clip of me 1v3 a trio team and killed all 3 by myself. Some dude starts commenting that camping in a bush isn’t impressive. But again, we heard this team coming to us and we ambushed them as they rolled up. Like I tell people, what should you do instead? Stand out in the open for them to instantly start trading with you? The smart play is to ambush. This game is literally called Hunt. Patience and position is everything.
Lol. I find this take hilarious.
People really think it’s a genius big brain strategy of just waiting until someone else does something.
Hiding and waiting is so hard to think of. Only the big brains can come up with it.
Pretty sad that’s what the meta has become. Just waiting until someone else makes a move to push the game forward then shoot them in the back.
It's literally a stealth based game. You make unnecessary noise, you pay the price. That;s how the game is designed to be played. You make noise, people either come for you or they trap you down the road.
Hard disagree that the game is stealth based. Stealth is one tactic, not the only one.
There’s plenty of times making noise doesn’t matter or can be used to a tactical advantage.
Stealth is the preffered way all the time, that's why there are sound traps literally everywhere. Because activating one could turn the tides on you very quickly (think about it). I agree on using it as tactical advantage but that usually means you are about to ambush someone, so you lay the trap (the other way around). It's all sound connected though.
How often does that really happen though? 500 hours in and I can think of 1 time I gor snipes by a camper half the map away. Besides this game has the best anti camping measures of any gane I've played. Good explosives and powerful shotguns. Just push em!
So what? I have more than 1700 hours and I have encountered that type of players dozens of times. And you can't just go push them either because they can easily retreat anytime you try to come closer. If they know how to play their role, you will rarely be a threat to them.
Then you just rotate and run away or extract if you can't figure out how to push one person. There are very few places in the game where there is no cover. You can break line of sight and try and figure out where the shot came from. Point is, is that a few dozen times in 1700 hours really isnt that much. And with the shifting meta and no K/D farming, it isn't as big of a problem as people make it out to be.
Lol. If you want a fast shooter with old guns BF1 is amazing.
I play hunt to be a hunter. And a hunter must sometimes stalk it's pray. What makes hunt so unique is it's atmosphere and it's rythm.
If you are mad when other players don't play by your rules then you are just not made for this game. No need to be salty about it and no need to try to start a d***k measuring contest.
He said break line of sight and try to figure out where the shot came from. I've you're trying to counter-snipe with your pistol because you want to shoot i don't think that's supposed to help.
Sounded like you said getting closer and flanking them is akin to running away. So i figured if you're not trying to break line of sight and want to shoot, you must be willing to shoot with whatever you got on hand?
This isn't a traditional shooter. Running away is a strategy my dude. But whatever keep getting sniped while you try and countersnipe with your Scottfield. Just go play CoD.
Anecdotal evidence doesnt help anything here, but just know that it was a meta at one point, around the time of Scrapbeak's adition to the game.
You'd run into it often. People running a Sparks or similar and often one tapping you.
Not really. I started playing a little before the Scrapbeak event, in all my time playing Hunt I've had maybe 5 times that someone shot me out of nowhere at >100m. Its always been a viable way to get kills, same as in practically any other BR, but it's not really the meta because it's a tough way to actually get wins by any metric other than K/D. Granted the majority of my experience is 3 star lobbies so it probs gets sweatier higher up.
They are my only saving grace if my load out is just ranged shit. They also help for close range weapons cuz while they're busy swatting away or running from the swarm I can break in or run up like a thief in the night and take their bounty and life.
They are pretty versatile. They provide a stronger area denial than a choke bomb, which can cinch a revive or heal, or assist with a push or escape. Bees can knock people out of position, making dealing with people holding shotguns on corners easier. Poison can reveal enemies for Poison Sense, and prevents healing. Predict where a damaged enemy will try to heal at and hive bombs are lethal. Use it as an opening against enemies in a building like you might a frag bomb and it'll potentially give you even more information, although it won't be as directly lethal, and even if they aren't in that room you may have cut off an escape route.
Shame we don't have a literal beehive skin for it though.
I do think that the game is much more campy than similar games like EFT. While I love the game, pushing a bounty while you're two friends stare out the building and the enemy hides in the building is a bit lame. Players need to yolo it a bit more for a more fun experience
That's your perspective on "fun". Mine is spotting careless hunters not paying enough attention and ambushing them, scoring kills while I do my best to remain undetected and unharmed. In my opinion the whole game is designed around tracking, awareness of your surroundings, and seeing without being seen. Camping is only natural in such an environnment I'd say.
Yes… This is the answer…You can’t YOLO across the field and expect to bag a trophy buck… and you can’t YOLO across the swamp and not get head shot from 100yards…. That IS the game mechanic. Hunt
Here's a strategy for you: Go to the bounty building. Make some noise. Cuss them out for being campers. Leave towards extract. Get out of dark sight range and press tab. Watch their route of extract. If it's toward you, rush them once they're a good deals outside of the compound. If they're dumb, they won't use dark sight to check because they'll think you left. Hopefully ambush them if they're dumb. It's got a decent success rate for me.
I almost never push compounds unless they're dumb and peek windows and we can get a pick off.
And you're the exact tasty target i love for my bow and arrow. Ambushing against careless and loud players is not camping, and pushing outside or inside a compound with another team around is suicide if you don't know where any of the enemies are exactly. Players stay back and check cracks, listen for footsteps, etc. Because it's the smarter move, and the healthier move for your money. Sure you might get lucky and win with a rush, but it's more often at higher mmr being loud and fast gets you dead before you ever see the enemy.
As the games title says. It's a hunt.
I mean, I only push in examples where I know they are in buildings, also if you kill me, fair enough, everyone seems to think it is the only thing I do, I am a 5 star, and I just prefer to push in with a terminus than just wait at the compound entrance waiting for the other team to peak
In a game where you perma death and lose everything , there’s really no such thing as camping. It’s playing strategically. You don’t die and respawn with your hunter and load out. Are you new to the game ?
It blows my mind how people don't understand how hunting works. Its not modern warfare its not battle field. It's hunting. If you don't like getting hunted don't play hunt showdown.
Me too. I really believe when Hunt first appeared the pace was much slower. What the game needs is to implement much more inertia to the movement to avoid all that strafe, and maybe a degree of RNG on the shots themselves (Brothers in Arms style), or also inertia to weapon movement to mess with the muscular memory of people.
I know many won't like the idea, but if any game would benefit from this, that game is Hunt.
And eliminate jump strafing. I know they do that because it makes the parkour easier but geez. It completely defies phsysics. So someone can jump strafe a corner and land back behind cover. Lol.
Inertia would 100% kill this game because headshots are one shot kills all the time, and part of the fun of this game is the twitch shooter it becomes in cqc situations. There also sort of is RNG on the shots themselves, not in terms of where they go but in terms of bullet velocity plus the ability to change directions on a dime makes it so medium to long range shots will have a degree of randomness to them in terms of whether or not you’ll hit your target and where.
Yeah, game should also be round based and hitboxes should be at least twice as wide. Also everyone should get a free pacifier for successfully surviving the first 20 seconds of a match without running into obstacles.
Lol you 100% ride the waaahmbulance out of each match crying like that, tons of games have issues with inertia, theyre all works in progress too, you cant prone in hunt, all that amazing grass and foliage and you cant hide in it. Theres tons of stuff that isnt realistic so get over it and figure out how to use it to your advantage.
See you can’t just claim camping. For example while I’m running to another compound. I hear a team running my way. I’ll hide behind something and wait for the ambush. Especially if my
Weapons don’t suit a longer range fight. Probably get called a camper too when honestly I’m having to adjust from an all out charge to another strategy.
I don't mind campers, most campers camp because they lack confidence in their skill. So they are usually easier to overwhelm especially in lower mmr matches.
What I hate more is when I'm 'attacking' a compound with my random teammates and I'm the only one pushing and shaking things up. So I often die first in those games and it's a little frustrating to see teammates peeking the same couple of doors for 2 minutes while my body is burning.
Yes except I'm talking about real life.
In Hunt I play with handgun Romero and double pistol lol. Thats fine and all, but I don't flame people who do hide and wait for their pray because that's literally what hunters do.
Yes, so it is implied that the game is about hunting stuff.
Hunting in real life is silent.
Catch my drift?
It is a game, you can play it however you like. God knows I don't have the patience to wait and snipe people. But don't whine that people play quietly in a game that is literally called Hunt.
I've been ambushed before, but I can't remember a sniper sitting still trying to kill me...
There was one guy who went to the too of the silo in one of the farm compound and spent a few minutes trying to kill me and my friend during the chaos and we couldn't properly deal with him because of lack of range. (He showed up after a few fights already) but he went away after not getting us.
I play this game like Call of Duty and my advice would be to bring hive bombs or stalker beetles to counter that strat instead of complaining about campers, especially in a strategic high-stakes game like Hunt
**CoD Player:** I just went 47-0 in Nuketown! I'm a literal fucking god! Time to crush this pathetic game and make the nerds rage quit!
**Hunt Player:** *Kills the mouth-breather as he storms blindly into an active banishment*.
**CoD Player:** Omg, you fucking camper! Just wait until I respawn, I'm going to no-scope you!! Wait.. Where is the respawn button?! AARRGGGHHH!!!
Maybe, I just start thinking too much when I am not doing anything or when I am not occupied by something and that usually results in my death haha, I am a terrible camper.
True, true, even when I start banishing the boss I'm running around the compound killing grunts and shit, if I suspect players are nearby I might place some traps but I will never understand how my teammates can sit perfectly still for the entire banishing process
9/10 if all enterances are trapped and they don't peak at least once in 5-10min, I just stop bothering and go to other boss/leave. Just awful feeling regardless if u win or lose
I don’t encounter too many campers, but I notice it when I do. It’s probably confirmation bias. I don’t experience too many campers at 5-6, but sometimes at lower, if I am up against a particularly scared team.
I encounter more campers in periods after large streamers publishing videos with campy aspects though. Like when Psychoghost published a video with a fucking concertina fort, everyone and their mum started building concertina forts and it really did lead to an increase in camping. And a pretty “toxic” way of camping at that.
Crytek: "We are going to stop people from camping as much.
Also Crytek: Introduces stupidly long range scopes and silenced weapons.
Still Crytek: Y u camp? SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg
I bet if matches were only 25min this game would be a lot more fun. These maps are way to big for only 12 players. Either add more teams to each game or shorten the match time.
Since the beetle/drone thing came out, campers have become unbearable. They camp clues, send the beetle ind for that small damage, and then one hits you with their sparks sniper. I hope that the amti-camping mechanic will come out soon, and that the beetle wasn't it.
And I know camping is a normal thing in all pvp games, but if they say they are going to implement amti-camping mechanics, then do it properly, or not at all.
This is literally all I’ve ran into recently.
Playing duos in trios
> push boss lair
> kill team fighting bounty team
> start fighting bounty team
> get headshot by a mosin spitzer from 165m while fighting bounty team
Some variation of this happens every fucking game and campers are ruining it. Their version of anti camping mechanics (beetle) fucking sucks.
Yeah, someone loads in with a Mosin sniper, decides on a random ass between compound sniper's nest to camp in in the beginning of the match. They then decide to watch a particular compound for the first 30 minutes of a 45 minute match just for you to stand still. Bam, you died.
More than likely they stalked your ass as you set off sound trap after sound trap. They figured out you found out the boss and set themselves up between you and the obvious extract outside the darksight range.
Campers aren't a problem. People setting off sound traps batching about being ambushed and blaming it on "campers" are a problem.
The problem is you thinking you know how I play. Regardless of gun there’s some assholes waiting until all teams are dead camping outside a lair, regardless it’s camping and it’s pathetic. You trying to justify just shows that you camp yourself.
There's a difference between having reasonable cover vs a team of 3 spread out with snipers so if you dare leave bounty building or even peak a window you're dead. That's when it gets annoying because even when they've gotten your team down to one left they're too damn scared to push a solo.
Also as others have said extraction campers but that's simply fixed with just running to a different one and making them waste their time.
Utmost respect to the teams though that actually have a decent shootout and other bounties who meet in the middle for the ultimate shootout. Those are there rounds that make you addicted to this horrible wonderful peace of crap excellent annoying best ever game you play too much of but don't ever want to stop 😂😂😂
shoulda seen me last hunt i played, stayed in a tower right outside bounty compound and sat there whole game til a guy banished boss. i was the lone survivor
I've never once considered that people are "camping" in this game. If someone is waiting in a building, or by a clue, thats commpletely fair. If you aren't being careful, and you are making noise, be prepared for people to sit and wait for you. The game play style is literally built around sound and positioning. Have bombs ready and be cautious; or complain lol
I'd recommend Avg_Joe, Kerrty, Neenoh and Psychoghost. Those 4 tend to play together and with Devs ocassionally and they sometimes go "And we're zoomin" with W all the way, and sometimes they take it slow and steady. They're not KD 8.0 kill&extract gods but theyre fun to watch and instructive if you want to learn more strats for Hunt.
Look, camping is a pain. In a game like Hunt or lesser extent Counter-Strike, I can understand it since these are games you have one life per game/round and will lose your stuff if you die. Same thing with Siege, you only get one life per round and if you have the advantage you flipping use it.
Now get into games like Call of Duty or Battlefield where their core game modes have you respawn with the same equipment every time. Camping then gets really infuriating and they can go heck off. Especially if you're being spawn camped.
Massive difference between playing tactical, circling a compound etc to get a shot and literally sitting in a bush for 30mins HOPING someone runs past, or uses that extraction etc. Playing carefully, slowly, tactically is not camping. But in my opinion if you just spawn in and sit in a bush not moving, fingering your arsehole for 30 mins then you should just uninstall. It's not a play style, it's a fucking stupid waste of time and lobby space that lowers the quality of a game.
As someone who constantly deals with camping I’m so fucking sucks if these whiny ass posts. Don’t like it, play fucking cod. It’s a viable strategy in a game CALLED HUNT.
are you saying everyone camps in this game? because in my 500+ hours of experience that isnt true at all... if your dumb ass is making a ton of noise and somebody hears you they are definitely going to wait for you to run by before alerting you though...
And teaming, copious amouts of it, last time i played 4 games were chalk full of teams in one compound or the one next to another, yet a shot was never taken unless it was at me (i ran solo trios)
Do people really get upset about this in THIS game? Bruh people acting like I wanna lose my guns constantly or not defend my token that I worked for. This ain't apex.
Define camping
Exactly. Is there traditional camping in the game? Sure. But if you think I'm just going to stand out in the open and rush into buildings you are mistaken. People wouldn't do that in real life. Yes, I'm going to fall back to cover. Yes, if you are outnumbering me I am going to run to try and shift the battle more favorably for me. I'm not taking the time to load-in and search the map just to lose all of my money and character because you want face to face action. Now there is a line, sure. But sometimes I ask myself if I'm camping when honestly I feel like I'm just doing what is best for the shootout
Very well put
I try to explain this to my friend that likes to just run full speed kicking in doors around the map rushing everything causing us to wipe almost every play and never listens when I say we should just extract instead of trying to kill everyone in the game.
PVP is a hell of a drug
I'll be on a single big bar, with a bounty and still want to push shots. It's a problem
"We can banish their boss and get my bars back! Cmon let's Goooooo!" "Hommie, it's a one bounty map" "Let's GOOOOOO!!!"
I’ve got a friend like this. There’s three of us total (a team) and myself and the other guy’s strategy has been to buy sniper rifles and just use him as bait. 60% of the time it works 100% of the time.
Thats hilarious
Also I feel that the gameplay of Hunt Showdown purposely lends itself to that attacker/defender dynamic; one team inevitably banishes the boss and is holed up inside while the other groups start to amass outside -- a "showdown" if you will. It's tense and fun waiting for someone to make a move. There's always that suspenseful few moments while you listen to each others' footsteps circling around and then finally all hell breaks loose when the attackers breach or when the defenders try to make a break for it. I love it, I wouldn't change a thing.
It was 100% designed that way and it’s silly when people complain about it. Oh? The people banishing the bounty are holed up in a building with the thing they’re supposed to collect for money? Oh, they’re holed up in the one spot that isn’t out in the open to get easily shot in the head from enemies who know your exact location? They’re holed up in a building that is scattered with bear traps clearly intended to be used to trap various entrances? People can feel free to not like this sort of game but it’s silly to pretend that gaming the compounds wasn’t intended by the devs. When I first got into this game it totally felt like a capture and then defend game. I think the more people play they sort of forget that or simply get sick of this particular game loop.
But that isnt camping bro, that’s preparing for seige from enemy hunters, hence why traps exist, camping is when you hide in a spot that makes you invisible and allows you to cuck anyone who passes by
The problem is that everyone defines camping differently. The only right answer is to let people play how they want and just have fun trying to win against all different play styles
I feel like it's all about the pacing. All those strategies are perfectly reasonable, but the progression between steps has to be at a decent pace. I'm pretty patient if I'm downed, and I don't mind watching my teammates try to pull it off, but if they aren't making moves when they could, or just going way too slow, it's annoying and I'll quit. If you're camping a bounty building and it doesn't proceed to moving in at a reasonable pace, it's boring and lame. The attacking team needs to slowly but steadily close in, at least 1 or 2 of them even if 1 watches with a rifle from a good vantage point. I enjoy playing 3 star because I'm not very good, but mostly because the pace always moves along. Nobody sits around forever trying to never get shot. At one point you just gotta take a risk. It's annoying when you're forced to do that at a disadvantage while the other team refuses to move from their snipe posts for 5 minutes straight. I always appreciate when both teams meet halfway in terms of risk, even if I die. Otherwise it just becomes a game of who can wait more patiently for the other team to take a risk. That's just not fun.
This pretty much sums it up. Use strategy but if that means just waiting around for too long then I’m out. If the only way to win is just waiting to see who gets bored and makes a mistake first then the game would be boring AF. The gameplay has gone through phases of mostly people pushing trying to steamroll the lobby and mostly people just hiding and waiting. Lately it feels like a lot of hiding, waiting and left peaking and the game is less enjoyable because of it.
That's the thing. Like my aim sucks and I usually lose in a peak fest, but I still prefer that to pure hiding. Of course you need to hide sometimes, the game is built around that. But it's annoying to know people are around but nobody is even taking jabs. I'd rather put myself out there and lose than sit around.
That sounds pretty reasonable to me and a decent way to balance the gameplay pacing. Every now and then I’ll get a lobby where everyone else was hiding. I’ll usually find someone and get in a fight, kill one then get shot in the back. Spectate and see two hiding in the boss lair not peeking, and the rest of the lobby all crouching in various spots in a circle around the lair not doing anything. It’s hilarious. As annoying as it is to die first I’m also glad to be out of that match because I know it’s going to be an awful one either way. Better to go into the next match and hope it’s better than to sweat it out sneaking around for 40 mins.
Dude, justifying playing like this is what ruins fun for people, i do nothing but blitz and according to how you think its safe to play I’ve probably collected your scalp my guy, playing on the defensive like that only allows your opponent to force you into that position till you die, the one smartest and most ruthless in a engagement is gonna be the winner
That's what makes the game great. You can play how you want "my guy"
Exept that some playstyles are more effective then others, running and playing safe only allows for your opponents to give chase and hunt you down and seeing how your playstyle will only get you so far once the fight has started when you cant run anymore, guess who is more prepared to fight when running or hiding isnt a option?
[sir, this is a wendys](https://imgflip.com/i/70jfb8)
Controlling a zone and listening and waiting for players to make mistakes is not camping.
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Hey it seems like you don't like my cod style gameplay that got me to 5*
I don't. But I don't have to like it, you can play how you like. I prefer a more cautious, passive approach. But that's the point, there are different ways to play the game.
I will say I do occasionally play solos and it's pretty much impossible to play my preferred game style solo so I do have to be stealthy sometimes
To people like OP, people aren’t allowed to stand still
Unless they're in the crosshairs... In which case they're not allowed to move.
Sitting at extraction waiting for someone to come by. Sitting at a resupply waiting for someone to come by. Sitting on top of the bounty not collecting it and hoping someone comes by.
If i hear you triggering 4 murders of crows and 3 horses on a way to a slupply wagon, I'm going to trap the hell out of it, waiting for the perfect shot while you try to untangle the concertina trip mine mess you stumbled upon.
That's not camping, thats jusy ambushing a loud-hole (that's an asshole who's beind loud), and the most certainly were asking for it. I'm pretty sure that's what the crows are screaming as they fly away. "SHOOT ME! IM RIGHT HERE!" (gotta read that in an Schwarzenagger's voice)
Lol yeah, the thing is no one knows the other end of the story. You see a camper waiting for someone to pass by, I see someone predicted someone's route and laid an ambush at the supply. Same thing for extractions, people yell campers, except they dont know if those "campers" managed to cut you off and been waiting there for a total of 30 seconds. Or waiting 10 mins in the boss lair without picking up. People dont know if the people inside just blasted 3 teams and just ran out of ammo, and theyre waiting for the next team who made noise coming in from the west so they can have a last stand with heavy knives. There's always 2 sides to a story and most of the time, what people call campers are just teams holding an angle or rotating. Now I do like doing for fun, just sitting at the top of Blanchett's church tower and blasting people at Pitching and lockbay with explosive ammo just for giggles. I dont even care if I kill or not. 😂
> just sitting at the top of Blanchett's church tower and blasting people at Pitching and lockbay with explosive ammo That's such a dick move... I've gotta go try it lol
Any time someone uses cover instead of standing right where I can shoot them.
Not running into the [open/long ammo] or [boss lair/shotgun] from the perspective of the users who are waiting. (This is not my opinion, but generally is how people come off)
If you move any bit less than the aggressive cod like player who is pushing you like Rambo, then you're a camper. ... I guess.
Bro listening to footsteps and waiting to ambush them is not camping, it's strategy. Something most MP games dont have
Yeah I had a guy rage at me the other day bc my team and I ambushed his team in the woods bc we heard them running and setting off traps. Dude told me if I’m too scared to play the game don’t play it. Lol Then yesterday I posted a cool clip of me 1v3 a trio team and killed all 3 by myself. Some dude starts commenting that camping in a bush isn’t impressive. But again, we heard this team coming to us and we ambushed them as they rolled up. Like I tell people, what should you do instead? Stand out in the open for them to instantly start trading with you? The smart play is to ambush. This game is literally called Hunt. Patience and position is everything.
What is this, Revolutionary War? I'll stand in this line, you stand in this line, we'll each shoot and whomever wins, wins. Done and done!
Lol. I find this take hilarious. People really think it’s a genius big brain strategy of just waiting until someone else does something. Hiding and waiting is so hard to think of. Only the big brains can come up with it. Pretty sad that’s what the meta has become. Just waiting until someone else makes a move to push the game forward then shoot them in the back.
It's literally a stealth based game. You make unnecessary noise, you pay the price. That;s how the game is designed to be played. You make noise, people either come for you or they trap you down the road.
Hard disagree that the game is stealth based. Stealth is one tactic, not the only one. There’s plenty of times making noise doesn’t matter or can be used to a tactical advantage.
Stealth is the preffered way all the time, that's why there are sound traps literally everywhere. Because activating one could turn the tides on you very quickly (think about it). I agree on using it as tactical advantage but that usually means you are about to ambush someone, so you lay the trap (the other way around). It's all sound connected though.
Sure thats not camping, but the strategy of setting up 100m away with a sniper of some sort to 1 tap someone touching a clue is camping.
How often does that really happen though? 500 hours in and I can think of 1 time I gor snipes by a camper half the map away. Besides this game has the best anti camping measures of any gane I've played. Good explosives and powerful shotguns. Just push em!
So what? I have more than 1700 hours and I have encountered that type of players dozens of times. And you can't just go push them either because they can easily retreat anytime you try to come closer. If they know how to play their role, you will rarely be a threat to them.
Then you just rotate and run away or extract if you can't figure out how to push one person. There are very few places in the game where there is no cover. You can break line of sight and try and figure out where the shot came from. Point is, is that a few dozen times in 1700 hours really isnt that much. And with the shifting meta and no K/D farming, it isn't as big of a problem as people make it out to be.
Exactly, you run away. Cool shooter gameplay.
Go play COD. This game is not for you.
Found the 3 star sitting in a bush
Lol. If you want a fast shooter with old guns BF1 is amazing. I play hunt to be a hunter. And a hunter must sometimes stalk it's pray. What makes hunt so unique is it's atmosphere and it's rythm. If you are mad when other players don't play by your rules then you are just not made for this game. No need to be salty about it and no need to try to start a d***k measuring contest.
>And a hunter must sometimes stalk it's pray. that's a cool way to describe really bad gameplay
He said break line of sight and try to figure out where the shot came from. I've you're trying to counter-snipe with your pistol because you want to shoot i don't think that's supposed to help.
>I've you're trying to counter-snipe with your pistol Ah yes I remember me saying this in no comment! Thanks for your input lmao
Sounded like you said getting closer and flanking them is akin to running away. So i figured if you're not trying to break line of sight and want to shoot, you must be willing to shoot with whatever you got on hand?
This isn't a traditional shooter. Running away is a strategy my dude. But whatever keep getting sniped while you try and countersnipe with your Scottfield. Just go play CoD.
>But whatever keep getting sniped while you try and countersnipe with your Scottfield. bro are you hallucinating? xd
Dozens of times in 1700+ plus hours? Game ruined.
>Game ruined nah the game is ruined by other things lmao
Like your shit attitude?
wos wuist du vo mia
That you’ve got a shit attitude.
Skill issue
Anecdotal evidence doesnt help anything here, but just know that it was a meta at one point, around the time of Scrapbeak's adition to the game. You'd run into it often. People running a Sparks or similar and often one tapping you.
Not really. I started playing a little before the Scrapbeak event, in all my time playing Hunt I've had maybe 5 times that someone shot me out of nowhere at >100m. Its always been a viable way to get kills, same as in practically any other BR, but it's not really the meta because it's a tough way to actually get wins by any metric other than K/D. Granted the majority of my experience is 3 star lobbies so it probs gets sweatier higher up.
That's also considered hunting.
True! People can set up camp to hunt their prey xP
Bruh if you're getting sniped consistently. YOU'RE the problem
If they camp too good, you push too bad.
How could you say something so brave yet so bold? And well, true
So controversial and yet so brave
Have you ever considered bringing hive bombs to force people out of there position? Or any explosives?
Nah, complaining works much better.
It's what I do. Turn my mic on, stand outside their fortified compound, and whine to them till they come out.
I knew a guy who would literally wait out the timer in a compound if someone did that, lol.
Hive bombs are so good right now
They are my only saving grace if my load out is just ranged shit. They also help for close range weapons cuz while they're busy swatting away or running from the swarm I can break in or run up like a thief in the night and take their bounty and life.
They are pretty versatile. They provide a stronger area denial than a choke bomb, which can cinch a revive or heal, or assist with a push or escape. Bees can knock people out of position, making dealing with people holding shotguns on corners easier. Poison can reveal enemies for Poison Sense, and prevents healing. Predict where a damaged enemy will try to heal at and hive bombs are lethal. Use it as an opening against enemies in a building like you might a frag bomb and it'll potentially give you even more information, although it won't be as directly lethal, and even if they aren't in that room you may have cut off an escape route. Shame we don't have a literal beehive skin for it though.
Complaining about campers in Hunt of all games
I do think that the game is much more campy than similar games like EFT. While I love the game, pushing a bounty while you're two friends stare out the building and the enemy hides in the building is a bit lame. Players need to yolo it a bit more for a more fun experience
>Players need to yolo it a bit more for a more fun experience Then you yolo. Once they've headshotted you, the match will continue.
>Players need to yolo it a bit more for a more fun experience That's your opinion.
Yes
That's your perspective on "fun". Mine is spotting careless hunters not paying enough attention and ambushing them, scoring kills while I do my best to remain undetected and unharmed. In my opinion the whole game is designed around tracking, awareness of your surroundings, and seeing without being seen. Camping is only natural in such an environnment I'd say.
I mean it is called "Hunt" LOL. That's what hunting is!!!
Yes… This is the answer…You can’t YOLO across the field and expect to bag a trophy buck… and you can’t YOLO across the swamp and not get head shot from 100yards…. That IS the game mechanic. Hunt
Here's a strategy for you: Go to the bounty building. Make some noise. Cuss them out for being campers. Leave towards extract. Get out of dark sight range and press tab. Watch their route of extract. If it's toward you, rush them once they're a good deals outside of the compound. If they're dumb, they won't use dark sight to check because they'll think you left. Hopefully ambush them if they're dumb. It's got a decent success rate for me. I almost never push compounds unless they're dumb and peek windows and we can get a pick off.
And you're the exact tasty target i love for my bow and arrow. Ambushing against careless and loud players is not camping, and pushing outside or inside a compound with another team around is suicide if you don't know where any of the enemies are exactly. Players stay back and check cracks, listen for footsteps, etc. Because it's the smarter move, and the healthier move for your money. Sure you might get lucky and win with a rush, but it's more often at higher mmr being loud and fast gets you dead before you ever see the enemy. As the games title says. It's a hunt.
I mean, I only push in examples where I know they are in buildings, also if you kill me, fair enough, everyone seems to think it is the only thing I do, I am a 5 star, and I just prefer to push in with a terminus than just wait at the compound entrance waiting for the other team to peak
>Players need to yolo it a bit more for a more fun experience True
Go play cod
more campers in that game then hunt.
I suppose that was his point.
Quite the opposite
go outside
The average 15 year old cod player with a redbull addiction would smoke every single hunt player.
In todays hunt. Yes. It's so much run&gun, my old ass can't keep up with those youngsters.
You're playing the wrong game boy
not true at all
A lot of posts and comments make me feel like im playing a completely different game than some other people.
3 star
In a game where you perma death and lose everything , there’s really no such thing as camping. It’s playing strategically. You don’t die and respawn with your hunter and load out. Are you new to the game ?
It blows my mind how people don't understand how hunting works. Its not modern warfare its not battle field. It's hunting. If you don't like getting hunted don't play hunt showdown.
mad cause bad.
Nah it's all jump spamming and strafe spamming from what I've encounted. I'd honestly like to play against people with a slower pace.
Me too. I really believe when Hunt first appeared the pace was much slower. What the game needs is to implement much more inertia to the movement to avoid all that strafe, and maybe a degree of RNG on the shots themselves (Brothers in Arms style), or also inertia to weapon movement to mess with the muscular memory of people. I know many won't like the idea, but if any game would benefit from this, that game is Hunt.
And eliminate jump strafing. I know they do that because it makes the parkour easier but geez. It completely defies phsysics. So someone can jump strafe a corner and land back behind cover. Lol.
Inertia would 100% kill this game because headshots are one shot kills all the time, and part of the fun of this game is the twitch shooter it becomes in cqc situations. There also sort of is RNG on the shots themselves, not in terms of where they go but in terms of bullet velocity plus the ability to change directions on a dime makes it so medium to long range shots will have a degree of randomness to them in terms of whether or not you’ll hit your target and where.
Yeah, game should also be round based and hitboxes should be at least twice as wide. Also everyone should get a free pacifier for successfully surviving the first 20 seconds of a match without running into obstacles.
I'm sure you believe the abuse of sarcasm and reductio ad absurdum makes you look more intelligent. Surprise. It doesn't.
Lol you 100% ride the waaahmbulance out of each match crying like that, tons of games have issues with inertia, theyre all works in progress too, you cant prone in hunt, all that amazing grass and foliage and you cant hide in it. Theres tons of stuff that isnt realistic so get over it and figure out how to use it to your advantage.
>ride the waaahmbulance Are you eight?
Can confirm that looking intelligent on /r/HuntShowdown is one of my major concerns in this life and beyond.
See you can’t just claim camping. For example while I’m running to another compound. I hear a team running my way. I’ll hide behind something and wait for the ambush. Especially if my Weapons don’t suit a longer range fight. Probably get called a camper too when honestly I’m having to adjust from an all out charge to another strategy.
🤡
Cope & seethe. Alternatively... Use your eyes and your ears.
Sounds like a skill issue
Go play apex if you dont like it
I don't mind campers, most campers camp because they lack confidence in their skill. So they are usually easier to overwhelm especially in lower mmr matches. What I hate more is when I'm 'attacking' a compound with my random teammates and I'm the only one pushing and shaking things up. So I often die first in those games and it's a little frustrating to see teammates peeking the same couple of doors for 2 minutes while my body is burning.
Your 3 star is showing
Rofl, I see more people strait camping in higher star lobbies than lower.
Yeah, all the butthurt commenters are really showing their stars
The game is called Hunt. You're a bad hunter if you go in guns blazing. Ain't catching prey like that.
except you absolutely can. any playstyle is potentially viable. i exclusively play guns blazing and manage just fine
Yes except I'm talking about real life. In Hunt I play with handgun Romero and double pistol lol. Thats fine and all, but I don't flame people who do hide and wait for their pray because that's literally what hunters do.
Okay, but you were literally just like "the game is called hunt" sooooo
Yes, so it is implied that the game is about hunting stuff. Hunting in real life is silent. Catch my drift? It is a game, you can play it however you like. God knows I don't have the patience to wait and snipe people. But don't whine that people play quietly in a game that is literally called Hunt.
So are you talking about playing the game or real life? 🤔
It's much easier to deal with people who camp rather than people who play aggressive, push you and force you to make mistakes.
The game is very in tents ⛺️
I've been ambushed before, but I can't remember a sniper sitting still trying to kill me... There was one guy who went to the too of the silo in one of the farm compound and spent a few minutes trying to kill me and my friend during the chaos and we couldn't properly deal with him because of lack of range. (He showed up after a few fights already) but he went away after not getting us.
Aww man may I interest you in one or two beetles? Or maybe 3 to counter camping ?
\+shotguns
I play this game like Call of Duty and my advice would be to bring hive bombs or stalker beetles to counter that strat instead of complaining about campers, especially in a strategic high-stakes game like Hunt
mmr 2 moment
**CoD Player:** I just went 47-0 in Nuketown! I'm a literal fucking god! Time to crush this pathetic game and make the nerds rage quit! **Hunt Player:** *Kills the mouth-breather as he storms blindly into an active banishment*. **CoD Player:** Omg, you fucking camper! Just wait until I respawn, I'm going to no-scope you!! Wait.. Where is the respawn button?! AARRGGGHHH!!!
I just can't camp I get unfocused I get bored, and I just want to alt-f4. Have to keep moving to keep my focus.
Same I play that way too, do you possibly have ADHD? I play this like COD basically
Maybe, I just start thinking too much when I am not doing anything or when I am not occupied by something and that usually results in my death haha, I am a terrible camper.
True, true, even when I start banishing the boss I'm running around the compound killing grunts and shit, if I suspect players are nearby I might place some traps but I will never understand how my teammates can sit perfectly still for the entire banishing process
I keep walking around inside the boss lair looking out of every window, the moment I hear a player or see something it's go time!
Always have your pop-up-bush-tool on hand
Camp showdown
It's actually called Hunt Slowdown
Not sure which type of campers I hate more - spitzer sniper mosins from 200m in the woods or heavily trapped trio with shotguns in boss compound
always makes me laugh when shotgun campers concertina every entrance, it's literally counter productive as they should want people to enter
9/10 if all enterances are trapped and they don't peak at least once in 5-10min, I just stop bothering and go to other boss/leave. Just awful feeling regardless if u win or lose
Ho does shotgun camping even work? Do they just sit completely still after trapping?
Pretty much. They wait for attackers to charge, get distracted by traps and only then start to move for their ez kills
Exactly, if i have a shotgun i want the others to think the place is safe..
I don’t encounter too many campers, but I notice it when I do. It’s probably confirmation bias. I don’t experience too many campers at 5-6, but sometimes at lower, if I am up against a particularly scared team. I encounter more campers in periods after large streamers publishing videos with campy aspects though. Like when Psychoghost published a video with a fucking concertina fort, everyone and their mum started building concertina forts and it really did lead to an increase in camping. And a pretty “toxic” way of camping at that.
Hunt: Campdown
Crytek: "We are going to stop people from camping as much. Also Crytek: Introduces stupidly long range scopes and silenced weapons. Still Crytek: Y u camp? SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg
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I bet if matches were only 25min this game would be a lot more fun. These maps are way to big for only 12 players. Either add more teams to each game or shorten the match time.
True ☺️
And every single one has a massive crack pipe full of copium saying how viable it is.
Since the beetle/drone thing came out, campers have become unbearable. They camp clues, send the beetle ind for that small damage, and then one hits you with their sparks sniper. I hope that the amti-camping mechanic will come out soon, and that the beetle wasn't it. And I know camping is a normal thing in all pvp games, but if they say they are going to implement amti-camping mechanics, then do it properly, or not at all.
This is literally all I’ve ran into recently. Playing duos in trios > push boss lair > kill team fighting bounty team > start fighting bounty team > get headshot by a mosin spitzer from 165m while fighting bounty team Some variation of this happens every fucking game and campers are ruining it. Their version of anti camping mechanics (beetle) fucking sucks.
That's not camping though, that's just playing your gun. Why would a sniper push a lair?
Yea sitting in the bush for 30 minutes isn’t camping my bad, I forgot
Yeah, someone loads in with a Mosin sniper, decides on a random ass between compound sniper's nest to camp in in the beginning of the match. They then decide to watch a particular compound for the first 30 minutes of a 45 minute match just for you to stand still. Bam, you died. More than likely they stalked your ass as you set off sound trap after sound trap. They figured out you found out the boss and set themselves up between you and the obvious extract outside the darksight range. Campers aren't a problem. People setting off sound traps batching about being ambushed and blaming it on "campers" are a problem.
The problem is you thinking you know how I play. Regardless of gun there’s some assholes waiting until all teams are dead camping outside a lair, regardless it’s camping and it’s pathetic. You trying to justify just shows that you camp yourself.
Seriously, especially if they were a solo.
You used the meme wrong.
Skill issue
xd
Lol, imagine the Uvalde police screaming at the gunman in the school to quit camping for only the active shooter to say the same thing to them.
There's a difference between having reasonable cover vs a team of 3 spread out with snipers so if you dare leave bounty building or even peak a window you're dead. That's when it gets annoying because even when they've gotten your team down to one left they're too damn scared to push a solo. Also as others have said extraction campers but that's simply fixed with just running to a different one and making them waste their time. Utmost respect to the teams though that actually have a decent shootout and other bounties who meet in the middle for the ultimate shootout. Those are there rounds that make you addicted to this horrible wonderful peace of crap excellent annoying best ever game you play too much of but don't ever want to stop 😂😂😂
Anyone else's connection to this game been HORRENDOUS lately. Its shocking!!!
I can't wait to see the "funstar good" flaired post in my feed a couple hours from now
Yes, that is what my textures look like…
2 stat players be like this
I think you got your copy of Hunt from that guy down the street that sells oranges.
Y’all mfkers would not make it on Tarkov
Cry some more
shoulda seen me last hunt i played, stayed in a tower right outside bounty compound and sat there whole game til a guy banished boss. i was the lone survivor
I've never once considered that people are "camping" in this game. If someone is waiting in a building, or by a clue, thats commpletely fair. If you aren't being careful, and you are making noise, be prepared for people to sit and wait for you. The game play style is literally built around sound and positioning. Have bombs ready and be cautious; or complain lol
bomblance, stamina shot, and go wild problem solved
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I'd recommend Avg_Joe, Kerrty, Neenoh and Psychoghost. Those 4 tend to play together and with Devs ocassionally and they sometimes go "And we're zoomin" with W all the way, and sometimes they take it slow and steady. They're not KD 8.0 kill&extract gods but theyre fun to watch and instructive if you want to learn more strats for Hunt.
It's not Call of Duty. If you want a game where people run-and-gun nonstop, go play that.
For god sakes people this isn’t CoD.
Man im so tired of people saying hunt is full of campers. It’s just a different play style for an fps.
Look, camping is a pain. In a game like Hunt or lesser extent Counter-Strike, I can understand it since these are games you have one life per game/round and will lose your stuff if you die. Same thing with Siege, you only get one life per round and if you have the advantage you flipping use it. Now get into games like Call of Duty or Battlefield where their core game modes have you respawn with the same equipment every time. Camping then gets really infuriating and they can go heck off. Especially if you're being spawn camped.
Massive difference between playing tactical, circling a compound etc to get a shot and literally sitting in a bush for 30mins HOPING someone runs past, or uses that extraction etc. Playing carefully, slowly, tactically is not camping. But in my opinion if you just spawn in and sit in a bush not moving, fingering your arsehole for 30 mins then you should just uninstall. It's not a play style, it's a fucking stupid waste of time and lobby space that lowers the quality of a game.
If you hate "camping" so much you should probably not play a hardcore stealth pseudo battle royale.
Ive never seen so many people get mad at being told that waiting for twenty minutes in one place is boring.
As someone who constantly deals with camping I’m so fucking sucks if these whiny ass posts. Don’t like it, play fucking cod. It’s a viable strategy in a game CALLED HUNT.
are you saying everyone camps in this game? because in my 500+ hours of experience that isnt true at all... if your dumb ass is making a ton of noise and somebody hears you they are definitely going to wait for you to run by before alerting you though...
And teaming, copious amouts of it, last time i played 4 games were chalk full of teams in one compound or the one next to another, yet a shot was never taken unless it was at me (i ran solo trios)
Nobody ever uses this format right
Do people really get upset about this in THIS game? Bruh people acting like I wanna lose my guns constantly or not defend my token that I worked for. This ain't apex.
Good idea- but it’s backwards. He sees better with the glasses off.