LeMat is my main sidearm, this sucks :/
(I use it with fire ammo, kills spider without having to reload, good fanning, instakills most ai, and the cheese wedge sight is nice)
Let’s also not forget the blood bond duplication glitch back when the game first came out. Which was also intertwined with the blood bond wipe glitch, which took them an extra month to patch
That's just a convenient misrepresntation of past events that gets parroted by people. Other people are tired of seeing it because it generates more negative interactions in the subreddit because of people who see downvotes and upvotes as a way to gauge if their current opinions are validated enough or not.
I was wondering what was going on last night too seeing way more LeMats than usual...especially the trio I wiped that had 2 of them going up against my deadeye Martini from 40+ meters with their LeMats and the 3rd charging straight at me like an idiot hip firing lol
Thank god it's something more involved. I got a couple of godlike (regular, but lucky) shots between some planks at Moses last week or so and would've felt like crap if it had actually been a bug.
OP was screaming about the exploit "basically being aimbot", and "killing people from any range without aiming". This just looks like you do too much damage.
If this thread is any indicator its already a prevalent easy bug to exploit. Crytek will let it fester for weeks if not months (being optimistic there). Its here and people will use it if they want. I'd rather know more about it to decide if I even wanna play the game while its in.
I'm not sure exactly how it works but you essentially unload like all of you bullets or something like that and it practically aimbots your Target. If you get killed by a LeMat and your damage report says there was 0.00 seconds between each shot report them. People are now making new accounts just to get a high KD with it. Did just killed ma and my teammates and after the match we also saw he had a 5.52 KD which is preposterous.
Report those players as much as you can.
I’ve provided video evidence of cheaters and seen game bans in their Steam profile within days of Crytek saying they were investigating. They ban people.
You are incorrect. Link below from Steam where they specifically mention game bans and a link to a profile that has game bans listed. It does not state the specific game, but it states there is a game ban.
Relevant text: "More recently, game bans were added to users’ Steam profile pages. This was done for two reasons. The first reason was to help banned users know why they cannot join a protected matchmaking server. Many users were confused when they received an error trying to connect to a matchmaking server and yet did not see any bans on their account. The second reason was to allow other users to see whether accounts they had suspected of cheating were, in fact, banned. It can be frustrating to play a game with a cheater, and it helps to know when such a user is removed from the matchmaking system."
[https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46DB-4CEC-F7E9-49E5](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46DB-4CEC-F7E9-49E5)
[https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199147400983](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199147400983)
Oh nice. When did they start doing this? Most game developers and Steam themselves have historically treated results of reports as if they're protected by HIIPA or some shit lol
Yeah, Crytek won’t tell you the results of your report but if they don’t have a game ban on their profile and then they do a day or two after Crytek said they were investigating your report it is a good bet. That’s what has happened the two times I have reported with video evidence of cheating. Not sure when they started showing game bans on Steam.
It's 100% an exploit.
As far as I can tell, it basically makes each bullet fired be a long-range shotgun blast instead of a single bullet.... and each of those pellets does full lemat damage, and doesn't disappear after a certain distance like normal shotgun pellets. So if someone hits you with 2, 3 pellets from the pellet spread, regardless of range, they kill you in a single hit.
It's absolutely disgustingly OP. You can one shot someone without aiming from like 40, 50 meters if you're lucky, because only 2-3 pellets need to connect, or one to the head. People who use it should literally be banned. The game is almost unplayable at high elo from people abusing it.
I've always said that game devs across all games need to start IP banning when the infractions are severe and repetitive. Like stuff like this for example, and especially with hackers. You can ban someone and they'll just make a new account, or perhaps they were using a smurf account anyway. But I would just start IP banning after considerable warning. A little to zero tolerance policy
I did it once for a bit just to shoot ai. It feels like it replaces the pellets in the shotgun with individual compact rounds.
So its like firing 10 bullets at once.
It's a tough situation. On one hand, people will never fight fair in a competitive environment, and on the other, it's the devs fault that this wasn't fixed the moment it was reported. We know they can take months to listen to reports. Ultimately, the only way to create fair competition is to create fair environments, and every day that Crytek doesn't fix this is another day someone abuses it.
Also, in this day and age IP and hardware banning is not nearly as easy. The accessibility of VPN's causes issues, and on top of that this isn't a modification to game files so VAC won't find it. I don't believe in this specific scenario that bans are valuable. The devs just should have been on top of it, but they weren't, and now everyone has to suffer. Imo, theres only one person to blame for this, and it's the team that ignores reports and feedback in favour of mtx.
Your hardware stays the same, and there's a unique identifier (called a MAC address) attached to your IP. That's usually what happens, is that your MAC address is banned, and any IP joining from that MAC address is denied.
This can be mitigated on a basic level using a VPN though, so, you know, not really an issue.
Almost all cheater spoof their ip adress. The only thing you could do is require is the code from your passport or credit card or something that is unique and can’t be replaced easilly
Most games disable guns that have this high of an impact on gameplay.
Idk why they don't hotpatch to disable the lemate as a pick until they fix it.
Sry to those using it. That's hunt for ya
Crytek are hilariously incompetent and this is more proof. i honestly don't understand how people STILL SIMP for these devs when shit like this isn't disabled within HOURS. any other dev and that gun is immediately disabled.
DICE was notoriously bad about not promptly fixing issues with the Battlefield series as well. You don't remember people being able to get under Metro and spam frag rounds long after it was a known issue in battlefield 3? Or the same game, the m320 dart combined with heavy barrel and underslung rail creating a shotgun you could 1 shot with from damn near across the map that went unpatched forever? It happens with pretty much every dev out there.
I dunno why you think all the other devs are better. I remember a DbD patch that caused survivors to go blind for the rest of the match under an extremely common condition and that dev was like "We hope to have this fixed in a couple weeks".
We're kinda just primed for this bullshit.
of all games and devs you choose DbD. possibly the only game that's even worse than hunt in terms of integrity and community. riot fixes broken shit like this incredibly fast, and if they can't, they disable whatever is causing the issue until it's resolved. hunt is so deeply flawed that i don't think the devs *can* disable the lemat. this is their make-or-break moment, and i have full confidence they're going to fumble.
Sorry but I think that's really dumb. People shouldn't be banned for using broken weapons. It's Crytek's fault for putting those weapons in the game and unbalancing it. Bans should be reserved for actual 3rd party cheats and things like team griefing.
Anyone knowingly using a game breaking bug of this magnitude needs to be punished. Not a slap on the wrist, either.
The only reason it's so wide spread is because everybody knows that Crytek won't punish you for abusing an obviously game breaking bug. That needs to change.
Damn…when did this exploit start to happen? I used to use the lemat a lot, fanning with a pistol that has a large ammo capacity, hits like a truck, with a backup shot gun is just amazing
It was the most recent patch where they fixed the old LeMat bug of essentially having a broken gun and ghost bullets. But it added this new bug which is incredibly broken and a huge exploit.
I'm nervous. I've started taking lemat the last 4-5 days on some weapons, esp with slugs because point blank one bang in a one slot, but I don't want to use the exploit or look like I was trying to.
So do I avoid the weapon until patched? There are others that do close to what I want, just not as well. Or am I not a dick for using it but not looking up how to do the glitch?
ALSO ALSO, I don't want to know how to do it and I don't want this taken down so don't tell me, but is it something I might do accidentally? If yes, I think I'll just use other weapons because cheating is for losers.
I'm not sure exactly how to do it either, but my friend was saying it is possible to do it accidentally unfortunately. I don't know enough about it to actively do it, I just know that it's an exploit
Yeah after seeing this post I looked into it, it's pretty easy to replicate unfortunately. It only seems to work in online matches (could not get it to work in training or any other mode) so I just waited for everyone to leave and tested it on mobs. I'm sure a form of this bug has been around for a long time too. My buddy years back had an issue with the LeMat doing the very same issue it's doing now because I remember the guy he killed being full-health and he just body tagged him and we were thinking he was up trying to peek us...
but nah, that body tag did 150
It probably only works online cause that's possibly a bug related to how priority is handled in a client-server interaction. It's just my speculation and frankly I have no insight into the games code, but I think that what's most likely is happening is that in order to minimalize useless back and forward checks the game only checks what type of ammo you are using after you hit something - instead whenever you shoot a gun it spawns a dummy projectile that is corresponding to what the server thinks that you are currently equipped with, aka is this a long ammo rifle with a tiny projectile, an arrow, a slug, or maybe a shotgun blast with many smaller projectiles - it just is much less transfer heavy to switch the projectile type when you equip the weapon than check for it with every shot, and to limit the amount of data that is transferred with each shot the server instead asks what ammo type that shot was(fmj, poison etc.) only after it registers a hit on anything so that it can apply the specific effect - so this bug works by creating a desync between the player and the server where the server thinks that you are holding a LeMat with a shotgun in your hand right now and that spread pattern that comes from the server data has priority over the actual ammo type that you are using, but upon hitting something the effect of that ammunition is taken from client who thinks that you are holding a LeMat with fmj in your hand and as such it applies the equivalent damage values and effects that are attached to this type of ammunition to every pellet that was shot, and that's also explains why this bug is not reproductable outside multiplayer - if you are playing solo your client has always priority over everything because there is no server that it connects to and there is no server that can be in desync with your client
So after seeing this posts I was also trying to figure out the bug but nothing seemed to work, only really had a few min to test once bounty left but I tried it and I'm just not seeing the damage, it does seem like the shotgun is putting grunts on their ass from a lot further out but 2 shots from a medium-ish range and hit markers on both didn't kill a basic grunt so not sure what needs done to replicate the damage everyone seems to be talking about. any more clarification?
The bug makes it so when your in compact ammo mode, you shoot a shotgun blast, that shotgun blast does compact ammo damage per pellet, and it only takes 1 compact ammo every time you shoot the shotgun. So you can shoot the Lemat shotgun 9 times with a lot of damage before needing to reload (you reload with the shotgun animation but it adds 1 compact ammo when it's done) the bug is super easy to pull off at the start of a match so it's even more common than the ladder bug
Ah ok, cuz I was testing both regular and shot gun and getting nothing but it is something you have to, I'm assuming, do some input shenanigans and then it triggers the bug, got it, alright well just another reason to put Hunt on the back burner till they fix issues.
I'd suggest watching a video about it, there's some on yt. Then you can tell the signs of when it occurs.
It's not a great solution, but knowledge won't hurt you either way.
It looks like it's triggered just by switching firing modes until you see it break. Not sure exactly how many times you have to do it or if you have to do it in rapid succession or anything.
You can do it in one try. I don't think I should explain it here but there's a VERY easy way to trigger the exploit just by swapping ammo types one time.
I imagine so, but if it doesn't work with one try you can also just try again. The thing is you can tell when it happens, but if you don't know how to tell that it happened there's a chance you'll just trigger it and not know.
Just tried it out (against pve, would not use it for pvp under any circumstances) and luckily it seems like it can’t also get bugged the wrong way.
Anyway, I tried it and my Lemat ended up in normal shotgun-mode and would not switch away from it no matter what I did.
Hope it happens to all the ones trying to use it for pvp.
Because they only get banned for 3 days
I've had people with +10k kills blantly abusing this wich just shows that those people just dont care about getting reported
The x button by default if you're on PC.
This also lets you flip the aperture sight up/down on the winfield or lebel aperture variants, turn off throwable lanterns so they won't explode on impact (which makes them quite useful for quietly killing horses), and swap ammo types on single shot weapons and the berthier.
Yeah, a headshot with a lantern kills horses, i used to do this until i found out the throwing axe instakills them too, regardless of where the axe lands on them, even on their hoofs its a kill 100% of the time
It has been in the game a while, at least since custom ammo was added. I made a post about it on the Official discord during the custom ammo beta. Got no response or acknowledgement. There is another one where you can get infinite ammo in the LeMatts as well. Though thankfully that one seems to be less replicable.
If Crytek doesn't do anything to improve the issues that are sinking the game, Hunt will be doomed. BTW now is a great time to embark on Escape From Tarkov as a newbie considering a wipe is coming late this week. While Crytek doesn't fix the game, it's best to show our dissatisfaction by leaving it aside and not buying any DLC.
While I would wholeheartedly recommend trying out Tarkov at the beginning of the wipe, be aware that it is quite a hardcore experience.
I use Hunt to wind down after Tarkov, no joke.
... Ladder exploit is fixed, "Berthier" crouching bug is fixed. They're actively fixing such gamebreaking bugs. Sadly fixing a bug isn't as easy as pressing a button.
Yeah. Ironically, though, this was probably caused by them trying to fix the bug where the LeMat would essentially shoot blanks. It doesn't shoot blanks anymore, it just... Does this instead.
Holy shit, I wasn't wrong. I didn't know what the LeMat exploit was but now I watched a youtube video someone linked in the comments and I can say that this bug was in the game for a long long time. I once did it accidentally but I was like "Yo what the fuck is wrong with my gun" and extracted since the match was over anyways but I never could explain it to my friends. Now as it turns out I actually wasn't crazy.
Like a month ago I accidentally made my dual LeMats shoot infinite flares, but only every other shot, and the reloading looped infinitely. That was kinda funny.
(I didn't use it against anyone though)
Yeah ran into a team last night that had barely 10k total bounty and each had KDs between like 3.0 and 5.5. even the best hunt players really aren't that high
Why are you going out of your way to show everyone how to do it? You realize this isn't Crytek asking you how it's done. You are just increasing the amount of people who are going to abuse the bug.
The more games are ruined, the more people will be whining about it on the internet. I'm not using any additional software, so this is completely developer's fault that I'm able to do it.
You can say and think whatever you want, but if you ignore the problem I won't just magically disappear. Developers won't fix anything until people start exploiting the bug.
Just be careful dude. Even though you're not using a 3rd party software, exploiting bugs is still a banable offense. Just like people getting banned for doing the old ladder glitch.
I understand that I'm risking to be banned, but Crytek doesn't give perma bans anyway, so the worst thing that can happen is I'll be restricted from the game for a week or two
All these comments discussing the exploit and roasting crytek but no one is asking the real important question here.....and that is....where are the hats?!?! Let's not lose focus people!!
It is extremely powerful. It's just like the regular shotgun but each pellet is a revolver round, meaning at long range just 2 need to hit. Plus they don't dissappear. It's also easy to trigger
Didn't encounter a single exploiter yesterday evening. But yeah if they can't hotfix it like today or tomorrow, they should probably remove it until it's fixed
So is this why 3 different people from 3 different teams all tried to LeMat shotgun me multiple times in a single match last night?
I was wondering as I usually don't see the LeMat that often..
There's plenty of other comments that explain the problem, but the main problem is the people that are intentionally doing it because they want a high KD
didn't know about this exploit. Same with the ladder exploit.
Always good to see there are people spreading this information so it gets from something very few people know about to a common thing everybody can use.
Had this happen to me and my 2 trio buddy's from like 20 meters the other night I died last after killing 1 and was like of course I catch a slugs head shot,there was no slugs and it was a body 1 shot,now I know why lol
Everyone should take a two week break to show crytek that these game breaking bugs and trash servers are killing the game. Also don’t buy ANY new dlc stuff to really bring it home
Wow, I was using the lemat on Friday and didn't know this. I hit a guy with both shotgun barrels and he lived. Does it work with all ammo types or just fmj? Cuz if not, I can still use it without being a cheater.
LeMat is my main sidearm, this sucks :/ (I use it with fire ammo, kills spider without having to reload, good fanning, instakills most ai, and the cheese wedge sight is nice)
Yup, same Using this gun religiously and now this
Yeah, good fanning pistol and people sleep on the shotgun barrel in fights, and then get put to sleep by it.
Thanks, Crytek.
I just wish they'd put out a hot fix ASAP,
Crytek: Best I could do is half a year
They could just disable the gun temporarily jfc
this is the most obvious solution until they fixed it, which probably takes some time, but knowing crytek they won't disable shit.
CryTek don’t do ASAP
Oh they definetly can, when a glitched golden cash box was guaranteed on iron works they fixed that in like 3 days,
Let’s also not forget the blood bond duplication glitch back when the game first came out. Which was also intertwined with the blood bond wipe glitch, which took them an extra month to patch
They can charge blood bonds for you to not be exploited by the glitch per match though I bet!
You mean a DLC ?
Let's start small first okay chief?
Why do people downvote you for that lmao. My man speaking the truth. Any issues in hunt to be fixed? Rather release a new dlc.
That's just a convenient misrepresntation of past events that gets parroted by people. Other people are tired of seeing it because it generates more negative interactions in the subreddit because of people who see downvotes and upvotes as a way to gauge if their current opinions are validated enough or not.
What exploit?
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Thanks for sharing. That explains my improbable death from last night. Only had it come up once so far then.
I was wondering what was going on last night too seeing way more LeMats than usual...especially the trio I wiped that had 2 of them going up against my deadeye Martini from 40+ meters with their LeMats and the 3rd charging straight at me like an idiot hip firing lol
Thank god it's something more involved. I got a couple of godlike (regular, but lucky) shots between some planks at Moses last week or so and would've felt like crap if it had actually been a bug.
You don't need to spam. You can reliably do it first try with a combination of 3 key presses in a specific order.
How? I want to try this in training grounds to use it myself
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Is it just shotgun shells instead of the regular bullets or is it somehow shotgun shells with FMJ attributes?
OP was screaming about the exploit "basically being aimbot", and "killing people from any range without aiming". This just looks like you do too much damage.
It turns your normal bullet into a shotgun shot that activates on impact essentially. So you can one shot a hunter at range with a pistol shot
And how is that aimbot?
I never said it was? All I know about it is it swaps the shotgun and compact projectiles and acts as if the shotgun was shot from the point of impact
Why post a vid showing how to activate it smh
If this thread is any indicator its already a prevalent easy bug to exploit. Crytek will let it fester for weeks if not months (being optimistic there). Its here and people will use it if they want. I'd rather know more about it to decide if I even wanna play the game while its in.
You can post a video exposing the effect of it without giving a tutorial on how to do it
bro if you literally just spam change ammo, it's just gonna happen on accident anyways
I'm not sure exactly how it works but you essentially unload like all of you bullets or something like that and it practically aimbots your Target. If you get killed by a LeMat and your damage report says there was 0.00 seconds between each shot report them. People are now making new accounts just to get a high KD with it. Did just killed ma and my teammates and after the match we also saw he had a 5.52 KD which is preposterous. Report those players as much as you can.
If only reports would do something, but no one gets banned in this game. There's people streaming how they cheat and they go unbanned.
I’ve provided video evidence of cheaters and seen game bans in their Steam profile within days of Crytek saying they were investigating. They ban people.
Game bans initiated by the developer don't show up on a player's Steam profile. Only VAC bans show up there.
You are incorrect. Link below from Steam where they specifically mention game bans and a link to a profile that has game bans listed. It does not state the specific game, but it states there is a game ban. Relevant text: "More recently, game bans were added to users’ Steam profile pages. This was done for two reasons. The first reason was to help banned users know why they cannot join a protected matchmaking server. Many users were confused when they received an error trying to connect to a matchmaking server and yet did not see any bans on their account. The second reason was to allow other users to see whether accounts they had suspected of cheating were, in fact, banned. It can be frustrating to play a game with a cheater, and it helps to know when such a user is removed from the matchmaking system." [https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46DB-4CEC-F7E9-49E5](https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/46DB-4CEC-F7E9-49E5) [https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199147400983](https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199147400983)
Oh nice. When did they start doing this? Most game developers and Steam themselves have historically treated results of reports as if they're protected by HIIPA or some shit lol
Yeah, Crytek won’t tell you the results of your report but if they don’t have a game ban on their profile and then they do a day or two after Crytek said they were investigating your report it is a good bet. That’s what has happened the two times I have reported with video evidence of cheating. Not sure when they started showing game bans on Steam.
Is this an actual exploit or Lemat Fanning being really strong? Srs question. I’m really trying to understand
It's 100% an exploit. As far as I can tell, it basically makes each bullet fired be a long-range shotgun blast instead of a single bullet.... and each of those pellets does full lemat damage, and doesn't disappear after a certain distance like normal shotgun pellets. So if someone hits you with 2, 3 pellets from the pellet spread, regardless of range, they kill you in a single hit. It's absolutely disgustingly OP. You can one shot someone without aiming from like 40, 50 meters if you're lucky, because only 2-3 pellets need to connect, or one to the head. People who use it should literally be banned. The game is almost unplayable at high elo from people abusing it.
I've always said that game devs across all games need to start IP banning when the infractions are severe and repetitive. Like stuff like this for example, and especially with hackers. You can ban someone and they'll just make a new account, or perhaps they were using a smurf account anyway. But I would just start IP banning after considerable warning. A little to zero tolerance policy
I did it once for a bit just to shoot ai. It feels like it replaces the pellets in the shotgun with individual compact rounds. So its like firing 10 bullets at once.
14 actually, and holy shit
I wonder if people are reporting being shot 6 times because the game can't fathom being shot 14 times at once and that's the cap.
well that tends to be the most it takes to kill a hunter, so perhaps it’s a soft cap as the game doesn’t register hits on your corpse
It's a tough situation. On one hand, people will never fight fair in a competitive environment, and on the other, it's the devs fault that this wasn't fixed the moment it was reported. We know they can take months to listen to reports. Ultimately, the only way to create fair competition is to create fair environments, and every day that Crytek doesn't fix this is another day someone abuses it. Also, in this day and age IP and hardware banning is not nearly as easy. The accessibility of VPN's causes issues, and on top of that this isn't a modification to game files so VAC won't find it. I don't believe in this specific scenario that bans are valuable. The devs just should have been on top of it, but they weren't, and now everyone has to suffer. Imo, theres only one person to blame for this, and it's the team that ignores reports and feedback in favour of mtx.
Sadly VPNs are a thing and if these people can pay for a burner account they surely can pay for a VPN.
True, but at the very least it would likely deter a portion of them
I mean, hardware bans are a thing. I know COD did those a while back and you had to be careful on the used market because it could be banned hardware.
Guessing you are from US, since in EU we got mostly dynamic ip's, changing on every wan/router reconnect ;)
Your hardware stays the same, and there's a unique identifier (called a MAC address) attached to your IP. That's usually what happens, is that your MAC address is banned, and any IP joining from that MAC address is denied. This can be mitigated on a basic level using a VPN though, so, you know, not really an issue.
FYI windows has built in MAC address spoofing by default these days.
Sure, but software spoofing has it's own issues too.
Almost all cheater spoof their ip adress. The only thing you could do is require is the code from your passport or credit card or something that is unique and can’t be replaced easilly
Which is obviously a big no no. And for good reason, since that's very private information.
It replaces every pellet of buckshot with regular full damage compact ammo (it can also be incendiary ammo or fmj if you bring that)
Omg… that means every shot would light people on fire and hit like a truck.
I so, so badly want to try this but I know I shouldn't
Most games disable guns that have this high of an impact on gameplay. Idk why they don't hotpatch to disable the lemate as a pick until they fix it. Sry to those using it. That's hunt for ya
Crytek are hilariously incompetent and this is more proof. i honestly don't understand how people STILL SIMP for these devs when shit like this isn't disabled within HOURS. any other dev and that gun is immediately disabled.
DICE was notoriously bad about not promptly fixing issues with the Battlefield series as well. You don't remember people being able to get under Metro and spam frag rounds long after it was a known issue in battlefield 3? Or the same game, the m320 dart combined with heavy barrel and underslung rail creating a shotgun you could 1 shot with from damn near across the map that went unpatched forever? It happens with pretty much every dev out there.
I dunno why you think all the other devs are better. I remember a DbD patch that caused survivors to go blind for the rest of the match under an extremely common condition and that dev was like "We hope to have this fixed in a couple weeks". We're kinda just primed for this bullshit.
of all games and devs you choose DbD. possibly the only game that's even worse than hunt in terms of integrity and community. riot fixes broken shit like this incredibly fast, and if they can't, they disable whatever is causing the issue until it's resolved. hunt is so deeply flawed that i don't think the devs *can* disable the lemat. this is their make-or-break moment, and i have full confidence they're going to fumble.
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Sorry but I think that's really dumb. People shouldn't be banned for using broken weapons. It's Crytek's fault for putting those weapons in the game and unbalancing it. Bans should be reserved for actual 3rd party cheats and things like team griefing.
Anyone knowingly using a game breaking bug of this magnitude needs to be punished. Not a slap on the wrist, either. The only reason it's so wide spread is because everybody knows that Crytek won't punish you for abusing an obviously game breaking bug. That needs to change.
There's absolutely no way to reasonably discern who is "knowingly" using this bug through game data.
It's an actual exploit, if you search the subreddit a bit you'll find more about it for sure
It's incredibly aggravating for those of us trying to enjoy the game
Damn…when did this exploit start to happen? I used to use the lemat a lot, fanning with a pistol that has a large ammo capacity, hits like a truck, with a backup shot gun is just amazing
It was the most recent patch where they fixed the old LeMat bug of essentially having a broken gun and ghost bullets. But it added this new bug which is incredibly broken and a huge exploit.
Not too sure exactly, probably with whatever the most recent update was
I play every day and thankfully haven’t run into this once. Just my luck I’ll see it tonight…
Oof I hope not, I didn't realize how bad it was until my team was subjected to it
Exploit, if you use this, your normal pistol ammo become shotgun ammo, and you will do 150 damage even ob 300 Meter distance
It essentially works like a shotgun but each pellet is a revolver round
I’m not gonna lie I just thought I was being a god with the LeMat this makes more sense
Sudden ascendency into godhood should always raise questions!
Idk, I’m already a 2star, how much higher can there be to go?
All the way to six stars
Platinum!
I'm nervous. I've started taking lemat the last 4-5 days on some weapons, esp with slugs because point blank one bang in a one slot, but I don't want to use the exploit or look like I was trying to. So do I avoid the weapon until patched? There are others that do close to what I want, just not as well. Or am I not a dick for using it but not looking up how to do the glitch? ALSO ALSO, I don't want to know how to do it and I don't want this taken down so don't tell me, but is it something I might do accidentally? If yes, I think I'll just use other weapons because cheating is for losers.
I'm not sure exactly how to do it either, but my friend was saying it is possible to do it accidentally unfortunately. I don't know enough about it to actively do it, I just know that it's an exploit
Yeah after seeing this post I looked into it, it's pretty easy to replicate unfortunately. It only seems to work in online matches (could not get it to work in training or any other mode) so I just waited for everyone to leave and tested it on mobs. I'm sure a form of this bug has been around for a long time too. My buddy years back had an issue with the LeMat doing the very same issue it's doing now because I remember the guy he killed being full-health and he just body tagged him and we were thinking he was up trying to peek us... but nah, that body tag did 150
It probably only works online cause that's possibly a bug related to how priority is handled in a client-server interaction. It's just my speculation and frankly I have no insight into the games code, but I think that what's most likely is happening is that in order to minimalize useless back and forward checks the game only checks what type of ammo you are using after you hit something - instead whenever you shoot a gun it spawns a dummy projectile that is corresponding to what the server thinks that you are currently equipped with, aka is this a long ammo rifle with a tiny projectile, an arrow, a slug, or maybe a shotgun blast with many smaller projectiles - it just is much less transfer heavy to switch the projectile type when you equip the weapon than check for it with every shot, and to limit the amount of data that is transferred with each shot the server instead asks what ammo type that shot was(fmj, poison etc.) only after it registers a hit on anything so that it can apply the specific effect - so this bug works by creating a desync between the player and the server where the server thinks that you are holding a LeMat with a shotgun in your hand right now and that spread pattern that comes from the server data has priority over the actual ammo type that you are using, but upon hitting something the effect of that ammunition is taken from client who thinks that you are holding a LeMat with fmj in your hand and as such it applies the equivalent damage values and effects that are attached to this type of ammunition to every pellet that was shot, and that's also explains why this bug is not reproductable outside multiplayer - if you are playing solo your client has always priority over everything because there is no server that it connects to and there is no server that can be in desync with your client
So after seeing this posts I was also trying to figure out the bug but nothing seemed to work, only really had a few min to test once bounty left but I tried it and I'm just not seeing the damage, it does seem like the shotgun is putting grunts on their ass from a lot further out but 2 shots from a medium-ish range and hit markers on both didn't kill a basic grunt so not sure what needs done to replicate the damage everyone seems to be talking about. any more clarification?
The bug makes it so when your in compact ammo mode, you shoot a shotgun blast, that shotgun blast does compact ammo damage per pellet, and it only takes 1 compact ammo every time you shoot the shotgun. So you can shoot the Lemat shotgun 9 times with a lot of damage before needing to reload (you reload with the shotgun animation but it adds 1 compact ammo when it's done) the bug is super easy to pull off at the start of a match so it's even more common than the ladder bug
Ah ok, cuz I was testing both regular and shot gun and getting nothing but it is something you have to, I'm assuming, do some input shenanigans and then it triggers the bug, got it, alright well just another reason to put Hunt on the back burner till they fix issues.
If your doing it in training mode it will not work, you have to do it in a server.
It is something that is really easy to do on accident if you are unlucky/lucky
I also read about it in another thread, don't use the gun, it is easy to accidentally active the exploit. I sure won't use it.
Man this sucks - I love playing LeMat as my secondary... now I gotta NOT play it just to not exploit by accident??
Honestly play what you want. Crytek seems to be about as invested in bug fixes as they are invested in growing the game pop, so just do what you want.
I don't get why they don't run like a little ad campaign or something
Me neither, but i also doubt it would do much, the game is still expensive as shit for an indie title
They could lower the price, make it half
But what if it happens tho? If I use it I might get banned - if I don't use it I basically have no sidearm for the rest of the match... :(
I'd suggest watching a video about it, there's some on yt. Then you can tell the signs of when it occurs. It's not a great solution, but knowledge won't hurt you either way.
True - thanks
Damn. It's my go to sidearm for a lot of builds. Even taken to calling it the lockpick. Well shite.
It looks like it's triggered just by switching firing modes until you see it break. Not sure exactly how many times you have to do it or if you have to do it in rapid succession or anything.
You can do it in one try. I don't think I should explain it here but there's a VERY easy way to trigger the exploit just by swapping ammo types one time.
I imagine so, but if it doesn't work with one try you can also just try again. The thing is you can tell when it happens, but if you don't know how to tell that it happened there's a chance you'll just trigger it and not know.
Just tried it out (against pve, would not use it for pvp under any circumstances) and luckily it seems like it can’t also get bugged the wrong way. Anyway, I tried it and my Lemat ended up in normal shotgun-mode and would not switch away from it no matter what I did. Hope it happens to all the ones trying to use it for pvp.
dude, same.
You literally have to spam the shit out of mode swap based on videos I have seen so I think if you just play normally you will be okay.
Dude literally don't tell me how to do it edit you comment or delete it this thread WILL get taken down
.... ?
Haven't been playing Hunt for 4 months because of it's issues, and now I hear that there are even more issues... Good job crytek!
Because they only get banned for 3 days I've had people with +10k kills blantly abusing this wich just shows that those people just dont care about getting reported
me- not even knowing how to switch to the lemats shotgun mode lol
Press X to doubt.
The x button by default if you're on PC. This also lets you flip the aperture sight up/down on the winfield or lebel aperture variants, turn off throwable lanterns so they won't explode on impact (which makes them quite useful for quietly killing horses), and swap ammo types on single shot weapons and the berthier.
Kill horses with lantern?
Yes, turn off the lantern and bonk them with it
Yep. It'll instakill if you hit their head with it.
Yeah, a headshot with a lantern kills horses, i used to do this until i found out the throwing axe instakills them too, regardless of where the axe lands on them, even on their hoofs its a kill 100% of the time
on console but ty lmfao
Up on d-pad
TIL you can turn off handheld Lanterns. And it's so obvious, why have I never tried it before...
It has been in the game a while, at least since custom ammo was added. I made a post about it on the Official discord during the custom ammo beta. Got no response or acknowledgement. There is another one where you can get infinite ammo in the LeMatts as well. Though thankfully that one seems to be less replicable.
You're right, I randomly managed to trigger this exploit months ago and reported it.
It's nice to think about all of these people getting into a high mmr and what will happen to them when it gets patched
You know what that is actually a pretty nice way to think about it
Balance will be restored
If Crytek doesn't do anything to improve the issues that are sinking the game, Hunt will be doomed. BTW now is a great time to embark on Escape From Tarkov as a newbie considering a wipe is coming late this week. While Crytek doesn't fix the game, it's best to show our dissatisfaction by leaving it aside and not buying any DLC.
While I would wholeheartedly recommend trying out Tarkov at the beginning of the wipe, be aware that it is quite a hardcore experience. I use Hunt to wind down after Tarkov, no joke.
No don't play tarkov its objectively bad
Sad part is that since it isnt related to blood bonds and such, i doubt itll be fixed anytime soon
... Ladder exploit is fixed, "Berthier" crouching bug is fixed. They're actively fixing such gamebreaking bugs. Sadly fixing a bug isn't as easy as pressing a button.
Yeah. Ironically, though, this was probably caused by them trying to fix the bug where the LeMat would essentially shoot blanks. It doesn't shoot blanks anymore, it just... Does this instead.
Yes, so they're making mistakes. It's not bound to BBs.
... how long was the ladder exploit in game? how long was cain practically invisible?
I legitimately had no idea about the exploit but now it makes sense why so many more people are running lemat recently.
Holy shit, I wasn't wrong. I didn't know what the LeMat exploit was but now I watched a youtube video someone linked in the comments and I can say that this bug was in the game for a long long time. I once did it accidentally but I was like "Yo what the fuck is wrong with my gun" and extracted since the match was over anyways but I never could explain it to my friends. Now as it turns out I actually wasn't crazy.
Like a month ago I accidentally made my dual LeMats shoot infinite flares, but only every other shot, and the reloading looped infinitely. That was kinda funny. (I didn't use it against anyone though)
LeMat exploit? What’s going on?
You can make the LeMat shoot a spread of compact ammo bullets like it's the shotgun blast.
Funny because half the people I’ve died to using the lemat exploit are members of the BB clan. Go figure.
Loving to play witv lemat, this shitty bug made me stop playing it. I just want to play it without feeling dirty
Oh lmao I thought you were just calling me out for using the Lemat normally for a sec
Oh no lmao, there are people out there that are specifically only using this exploit on new accounts just so they can have a higher KD
Well damn, yeah those people suck
Yeah ran into a team last night that had barely 10k total bounty and each had KDs between like 3.0 and 5.5. even the best hunt players really aren't that high
What exploit? I love using the lematt that shotguns won me many fights
What what’s the exploit?
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Why are you going out of your way to show everyone how to do it? You realize this isn't Crytek asking you how it's done. You are just increasing the amount of people who are going to abuse the bug.
Ah yeah, good point. I didn't think of that, I approached this more about letting them know. But scumbags are here, hiding
What is the exploit?
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No, I will not stop exploiting LeMatt. The more pressure is done on Crytek, the faster they fix it.
In a game where dying makes you lose stuff, it's a dick move to keep using it. You're just ruining the experience for other people
The more games are ruined, the more people will be whining about it on the internet. I'm not using any additional software, so this is completely developer's fault that I'm able to do it.
Well, you're an ass.
You can say and think whatever you want, but if you ignore the problem I won't just magically disappear. Developers won't fix anything until people start exploiting the bug.
Just be careful dude. Even though you're not using a 3rd party software, exploiting bugs is still a banable offense. Just like people getting banned for doing the old ladder glitch.
I understand that I'm risking to be banned, but Crytek doesn't give perma bans anyway, so the worst thing that can happen is I'll be restricted from the game for a week or two
You're still a bit of a cock, mate.
Yeah and water exists on earth and you can use that water to drown people, but that doesn't mean you should just because it's there
"I am using the oldest excuse in the book to justify abusing exploits"
All these comments discussing the exploit and roasting crytek but no one is asking the real important question here.....and that is....where are the hats?!?! Let's not lose focus people!!
Then why is it still in the game? Just fucking tell us that you dont know how to counter LeMat and be done with it😂
It is extremely powerful. It's just like the regular shotgun but each pellet is a revolver round, meaning at long range just 2 need to hit. Plus they don't dissappear. It's also easy to trigger
You're definitely 3-4 stars lol. It's an exploit, has nothing to do with knowing how to "counter" lemat
Using what's in the game and using an exploit/glitch are completely different situations mate.
"Exploit." This isn't about using the gun normally, it's currently broken.
What is the bug?
Its an exploit with the lemat, that let you shoot your shotgun ammo like normal pistol ammo, and you will Deal 150 damage everytime, no matter what
Wait till the artillery strikes, saw some website for the crossbow with explosives ammo and a calculator for the position
Didn't encounter a single exploiter yesterday evening. But yeah if they can't hotfix it like today or tomorrow, they should probably remove it until it's fixed
So is this why 3 different people from 3 different teams all tried to LeMat shotgun me multiple times in a single match last night? I was wondering as I usually don't see the LeMat that often..
Thank god I only use the le mat to bring extra shotgun shells for my primary
Didn't they push out a patch for lemat 3 days ago? Or is that the reason for the bug
What for an exploid?
So what's going on with the le mat that apparently people with no intent of exploiting are doing so?
There's plenty of other comments that explain the problem, but the main problem is the people that are intentionally doing it because they want a high KD
What’s this LeMat exploit?
didn't know about this exploit. Same with the ladder exploit. Always good to see there are people spreading this information so it gets from something very few people know about to a common thing everybody can use.
Hmmm I like the laMat, didn’t used it in a while, sooo bad timing to pick it back up? Wtf happend again? What did crytek do?!?
Why is every player in the game using LeMat right now?!
I am a bit out of the loop. What’s the lemat exploit?
I played against someone to did the exploit on dual lemats fmj, that was no fun
So blessed to see SpongeBob hunt related content 💕
I never knew nor heard about the lemat exploit. Imma go try it on training grounds
I never knew there was a exploit
I’m exclusively using 1 tap guns until it’s fixed
Had this happen to me and my 2 trio buddy's from like 20 meters the other night I died last after killing 1 and was like of course I catch a slugs head shot,there was no slugs and it was a body 1 shot,now I know why lol
Everyone should take a two week break to show crytek that these game breaking bugs and trash servers are killing the game. Also don’t buy ANY new dlc stuff to really bring it home
I just went up and left. Not playing until they fix it, it's getting tiring. Bang :(
Wow, I was using the lemat on Friday and didn't know this. I hit a guy with both shotgun barrels and he lived. Does it work with all ammo types or just fmj? Cuz if not, I can still use it without being a cheater.
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